NYSE:CDE Coeur Mining Q4 2024 Earnings Report $6.26 +0.16 (+2.62%) Closing price 04/16/2025 03:58 PM EasternExtended Trading$6.18 -0.08 (-1.28%) As of 08:28 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Coeur Mining EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.11Consensus EPS $0.11Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPSN/ACoeur Mining Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$305.40 millionExpected Revenue$314.32 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$8.92 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACoeur Mining Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date2/19/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, February 20, 2025Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsCoeur Mining's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, May 8, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Intel Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 20, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Core Mining Fourth Quarter twenty twenty four Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mitchell Krebs, Chairman, President and CEO. Please go ahead. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:00:39Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining our call today to discuss our fourth quarter and full year results. Before we start, we want to quickly point out our cautionary language regarding forward looking statements in today's slide deck and refer you to our SEC filings on our website. I'll start with some quick highlights before turning the call over to Mick, Aoife and Tom for some more color on our results and on our 2025 outlook. By any measure, 2024 was one of the most consequential years in Core's nearly one hundred year history. The company is in the midst of an inflection point following a period of heavy investment to reposition us as a larger scale, growing, lower cost silver and gold producer with a more conservative balance sheet. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:01:28The second half of last year marked the beginning of this inflection point with $85,000,000 of free cash flow, $80,000,000 of debt reduction, nearly $90,000,000 of earnings, the successful ramp up of our Rochester expansion and the announcement of the Silvercrest acquisition. Our full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA more than doubled to $339,000,000 compared to the prior year. Looking ahead to 2025, we're entering the year incredibly well positioned to deliver record results and be a true global leader among silver companies at just the right time. We expect production levels from our five North American operations to reach over 400,000 ounces of gold and over 18,000,000 ounces of silver this year, which are 2062% higher than last year's levels. We anticipate delivering record levels of EBITDA, earnings and free cash flow that can be used to aggressively pay down debt and leave us with a peer leading balance sheet by year end. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:02:33The combination of Rochester's First full year post expansion, ten point five months of the newly acquired Las Chepas operation, steady performance from our other operations and higher prices are the key drivers to this expected record year. Looking further out, our news release on Tuesday covering year end 2024 reserves and resources showcased the company's strengthening pipeline of mineral inventory. Just a few quick highlights looking at Slide 10. Over the past five years, we've invested $285,000,000 in exploration that has led to a 26% increase in gold reserves, 30% increase in silver reserves along with material increases in both gold and silver resources, putting us in a great position to further extend mine lives at our operations. Two great examples of this from last year's results are the sharp resource increases at Palmarejo and Wharf. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:03:33Palmarejo's inferred resources jumped by 75% year over year, while Wharf's M and I resources doubled and its inferred resources tripled year over year, giving us a high level of confidence in delivering meaningful mine life extensions at these two operations in coming years. One other highlight from Tuesday's release is the addition of the high grade Las Chispas asset, which provided a 12% boost to our overall reserve grade, which reflects the quality of this newly acquired asset. Mick, over to you. Thanks, Mitch. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:04:11Kerr's portfolio finished the year on a strong note, highlighted by great results at Wharf and Palmarejo and continued growth at Rochester coming less than a year since start up and initial production. Beginning with Rochester, the newly expanded operation continues to trend positively with tonnes placed during the quarter delivered within our targeted level of 7,000,000 to 8,000,000 tonnes on the way to a 34% increase in silver production compared to the third quarter and 63% increase in gold production over the same period. This growth contributed to over $12,000,000 of free cash flow during the quarter. We are also seeing continued success in the first month of the year as the team placed an additional 2,400,000 tonnes on the leach pad, which was right on plan. Mining, crushing and recoveries continue to show strong sequential improvement even as periodic pauses to the circuit have taken place to address planned modifications and typical start up work. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:05:18Placement of high grade backfill material once again contributed to pad placement rates during the quarter. The relatively large size fraction of this material led to increased leach cycle times of silver, which presented a slightly lower than planned silver production in the quarter, but contributed to a strong overall finish to the year. As expected, costs applicable to sales were within full year guidance ranges and declined by 14% in the fourth quarter as throughput rates continue to claim. Looking ahead, 2025 production guidance of 7,000,000 to 8,300,000 ounces of silver and 60,000 to 75,000 ounces of gold represent year over year increases of 7572%, respectively. Higher sustained throughput rates are expected to continue driving down unit costs, which are shown on Slide seven on a per tonne and per ounce basis. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:06:20Turning to Palmarejo. The team delivered another solid quarter to cap a great year, with gold and silver production increasing 83% year over year, respectively, leading to $108,000,000 of free cash flow, which was the highest level in seven years. Palmarejo also continues to position itself for the future with the completion of the Hidalgo portal leading to enhanced flexibility and access to new ore drives in 2025 and beyond. We expect another typical year of silver and gold production at Palmarejo in 2025. Moving to Kensington. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:07:01Gold production increased throughout 2024, leading to a strong bounce back year with 13% growth compared to 2023. With Kensington's Multi Year investment and underground main development and exploration now beginning to wane down, 2025 production guidance reflects the enhanced flexibility and successful reserve additions we achieved to set up Kensington for another 5% increase in production compared to 2024 and a return to positive free cash flow this year. Finishing up with Wharf. As expected, fourth quarter production moderated compared to the unusually high third quarter result, but still managed to deliver annual gold growth of 5%, leading to a full year free cash flow of $95,000,000 which sets a new record for the operation. Wharf's twenty twenty five guidance reflects a similar year of stable production ahead. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:08:01Turning briefly to a couple of key items on CapEx gains. Slide 11 highlights a year of more typical sustaining CapEx spending following the completion of the Rochester expansion. With a few additional focused high return capital investments anticipated in 2025. At Kensington, we plan to commence a tailings dam raise to realize the value from its extended mine life. At Rochester, we plan to complete some modifications after startup projects across the crushing system to further improve flexibility and drive efficiency. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:08:37And finally, the recent success at Juno and the North Foley targets at Wharf requires a modest increase in capital this year to support an expected material extension to its main life. With that, I'll pass the call over to Aoife. Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:08:54Thanks, Mick. The fourth quarter closed out a very successful year for Coors exploration programs. Starting with the good news at Kensington, the multiyear underground development and drilling program is proving very successful with the doubling of reserves since the program began in mid-twenty twenty two. Multiple new zones were discovered last year, which will be followed up on in 2025. Given this much more comfortable mine life, our focus will pivot towards maintaining this steady five year life of mine and targeting higher grade zones to maximize the operations cash flow. Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:09:35We also had a very busy year at Palmarejo where the aim was to further bolster the inferred pipeline for future conversion to reserves. A new discovery was made in the Hidalgo Corridor, the Libertad footwall vein, which was a significant contributor to the overall ANZ addition there. Furthermore, early stage work on the newly acquired Fresneo claims is outlining multiple new veins with an additional 12 kilometers of strike length outlined on the Independencia sewer block. These are located directly southeast of existing mine infrastructure and we recently commenced drilling to test the southeast extensions of the veins in the main mine corridor. 39% of last year's exploration budget at Palmarejo was spent outside the area of interest impacted by the Franco Nevada gold stream, and this is expected to increase to 60% in 2025 now that we fully consolidated the land position to the east of existing operations. Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:10:41At Rochester, One program of note last year was the campaign targeting the previously undrilled portion of East Rochester, the Wedge, and also targeting higher grades on the Black Ridge and other faults. Higher grades were found on a subvertical structure in East Rochester and a large portion of colluvium in the wedge, previously thought to be waste, was shown to have mineralization. The impacts of this work will be evaluated after a more aggressive drill program planned for late this year and continuing into 2026. Last but not least, the three pronged program at Silvertip paid off in Bowens. The underground near mine drilling extended the Southern Silver and saddle Zones along strike. Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:11:28The program of large drill step outs intersected massive sulfide mineralization in five of five holes up to one kilometer from the most recent resource shape for Southern Silver Zone. And two more Silvertip lookalikes were outlined in the regional program. We plan to follow-up on these during the upcoming summer seasons. Looking at Slide nine, we expect to invest about $85,000,000 on exploration in 2025. Like last year, this year's exploration will be weighted towards scout and expansion drilling with the aim of further bolstering our inferred resources for future conversion. Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:12:07We also aim to maintain steady mine lives now that we have successfully extended them across the portfolio over the past few years. With that, I'll pass the call to Tom. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:12:19Thanks, Aoife. The third quarter was the beginning of the major inflection point that we had all been waiting for since the launch of the Rochester expansion in 2020. The momentum continued during the fourth quarter with Rochester joining the free cash flow party with its first positive free cash flow quarter since 2019, driven by the steady progress of the ramp up of the crusher and the increase in ounces placed on the leach pad, as Mick described. Turning to the financial summary on Slide eight. Key 2024 headlines included revenue exceeding the $1,000,000,000 mark, adjusted EBITDA increasing by almost $200,000,000 to $339,000,000 capital expenditures at $183,000,000 were cut in half versus the prior year, which allowed us to increase our exploration expenditures to approximately $60,000,000 And our average quarterly free cash flow was $43,000,000 during the second half of twenty twenty four. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:13:20Turning to the balance sheet summary on Slide 12, our planned debt reduction continued during the fourth quarter with another $30,000,000 repaid on our revolving credit facility, leaving us with a significantly improved net debt to EBITDA ratio of 1.6x versus 3.4x one year ago. Core's rapid balance sheet strengthening will accelerate in 2025 off the back of higher gold and silver production, stronger commodity prices and of course, the closing of the Silvercrest transaction last Friday. We expect that our revolver balance, which stood at $195,000,000 drawn at 12/31/2024, will be repaid by the second half of twenty twenty five. And our long stated goal of net debt to EBITDA of nil is in sight. We are excited to present the 2025 guidance on Slide 14, which includes Las Chistas for the first time, albeit for only ten point five months. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:14:18Key themes for 2025 include production growth driven by Rochester and Las Cheapest and an acceleration of free cash flow and debt repayment. Using a $2,700 gold price and a $30 silver price, we expect to average $75,000,000 to $100,000,000 per quarter of free cash flow beginning in Q2 twenty twenty five, which will be applied to debt reduction. This free cash flow generation includes an elevated exploration investment versus 2024 as we continue to find excellent opportunities to invest across our portfolio to generate returns above our cost of capital. The potential material mine life extension at Wharf jumps out as a poster child for our focus as a company on ROIC. Exciting times indeed. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:15:08One note of caution, Q1 twenty twenty five will be a bit messy and not representative of the go forward business as Q1 will only include forty five days of Las Chiasma's operating results and we will incur several one time outflows, which will impact our operating cash flow during the quarter. Those outflows include an estimated $80,000,000 of 1Q tax payments in Mexico related to the strong financial results at both Palmarejo and Las Chispas in 2024. The payments associated with Cora's annual incentive plan and the semi annual interest payment on our long term notes a much larger annual property tax payment at the expanded Rochester mine and Silvercrest transaction costs. It is important to highlight that absent these one time outflows, first quarter free cash flow would have been expected to be positive. I'll now pass the call back to Mitch. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:16:03Thanks, Tom. Before moving to the Q and A, I want to quickly highlight Slide 13 that summarizes our top priorities for 2025. With the completion of the Silvercrest acquisition last Friday, I just want to take a moment and quickly thank our team and the Silvercrest team for their efforts in making this transaction happen and welcome the Las Chispas team to the company as well as welcome Eric Fear and Pierre Baudois to our Board of Directors. Thanks to a lot of hard work by a lot of people over many years coupled with incredibly strong fundamentals for both gold and silver, we're seeing several key catalysts converge at once that have the company positioned better than ever heading into 2025. From a solid platform of five North American operations, Core provides near term growth, unmatched silver exposure, dramatic cash flow increases, a rapidly strengthening balance sheet, peer leading liquidity and a fertile pipeline of exploration targets to support the next phase of growth in the years ahead. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:17:11With that, let's go ahead and open it up for questions. Operator00:17:48The first question comes from Joseph Greger with Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:17:56Hey, Mitch and team. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on all the accomplishments. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:18:01Hey, Joe. Thanks. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:18:04So I guess first thing on the Las Chepas acquisition, can you give us an update on what the cash and bullion equated to at the time of the closing? Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:18:16Yes. Thanks for the question. Obviously, the balance sheet that Silvercrest had was one of the key deal rationale points using that cash and bullion to reduce debt here in the first quarter and then combined with the free cash flow from Las Cheapest during the year that should help us delever quite quickly. Tom, do you want to talk a little bit more about where they were at least at your end and how we see that playing out from here? Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:18:43Sure. Thanks, Joe. So as they noted in their news release, $153,000,000 in cash and $40,000,000 in bullion, and they didn't sell any of the bullion between year end and Valentine's Day when we closed the transaction. They did pay a bunch of bills in the first forty four days, including a lot of their transaction costs, etcetera, etcetera. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:19:09So that balance is Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:19:11closer to $100,000,000 as we approached the closing date. But as Mitch said, the game plan here is it's going to be a bit of a messy quarter as we deal with our transaction costs, the big tax bill. I mean, it's nearly $40,000,000 for each of the two subsidiaries given the strong performance. So anyway, that's just want to highlight that Q1 is going to be a bit messy. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:19:39Okay. That's helpful. Two other specific operational things I noticed. One, Kensington, the cost per ounce is going up a decent amount from last year. And then at Rochester, there was a mention of crush size in Q4 that that was part of the reason for production being a little lower. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:20:06Can you just touch on what crush size issue is? Is it behind you? And then on Kensington, what's driving the higher costs? Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:20:14Yes, I can I'll start I'll take maybe I'll go with the second question first and then we'll hit Kensington Second. Just on Rochester, I'll offer up a couple of comments and then Mick you can give Joe some additional detail. Yes, we did place a little bit more of that direct to pad material that we call DTP in the fourth quarter. I think about 3,000,000 tons that went out onto the leach pad came from that material. And that's previously mined higher grade, slightly larger size material, more like a couple of inch size. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:20:46And we did that to really offset some pressure downtime that we took during the quarter to take care of a few items that had been identified leading up to the fourth quarter and we pulled some twenty first quarter twenty twenty five planned maintenance into the fourth quarter and decided to take care of those items just to set us up better for a good strong clean 2025. So that did impact slightly the crush size in the fourth quarter and was really the driver to the slightly lighter silver production. And when you think about 2025, we'll crush probably right around 30,000,000 tons and then place on top of that another probably 5,000,000 or 6,000,000 tons of that direct to pad material. The limit on the the permit limit on the crusher is 32,000,000 tons. So that direct to pad material is profitable and it gives us an opportunity to kind of exceed that permit limit on the crusher. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:21:58It does have a slight impact on recovery given that larger crush size, but it's profitable material. And just I'd say on the crush size overall, the progress toward the 5.8% goal continued to make a lot of progress. Mick can give you some additional details on that. I know we've run a couple of specific campaigns focused on hitting that in December and again in January. And we've definitely the crusher has proven its ability to deliver that fiveeight inches product that we're targeting. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:22:29But Mick, do you want to fill any blanks on that? And then also hit the Kensington question? Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:22:35Yes, for sure. Thanks, Joe. We're absolutely pumped actually. We're seeing that momentum build right across 2024. Since we started on the March 8, it's not that long ago, right? Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:22:48It feels like a while, but it's really not. We look across the whole of 2024 and we had around 70% of that material through the whole year that was passing that fiveeight inches size fraction. So that performance is getting better and better, still a bit of work to do. We did those tests, as Mitch mentioned in December and January and they were very specifically to understand the nature of the ore body and what the control limits were to ensure we can send that right blend to the crusher to hit that size fraction. And we're not going to be able to do that all of the time because we are as you're higher up in the ore body, we get some pretty soft ores and they're not really applicable to putting through the tertiary crusher. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:23:30So we bypass those a little bit and we see a slightly higher size fraction now and again. But overall those tests showed that when we want to and we'll provide that crusher with the right blend of hard and soft doors, it can hit that fiveeight size fraction well. And so overall, really, really happy about that. On Kensington, Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:23:50Tom, can you say something? Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:23:51Yes. Joe, a couple of things on Kensington. As we've talked about, there's been a lot of work on the multi year program. And so as a result, a few more people on-site, so labor and camp costs were higher, more expensed underground mine development. But the real thing to monitor there is just the sensitivity to the grade. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:24:14If you pull out the chart on Page nine of the earnings release, you sort of see, right, when Kensington's at 0.14, those costs really pop up and we need to the more 0.16 quarters like we had in Q3, Q4, the better the cost goes. So it's a bit of the increased activity and then that sensitivity grade. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:24:37And a little bit of timing, Tom. There's a couple of power plant overhauls that were just scheduled for this year where we only did one last year. So there's just a little bit of time in our maintenance and reliability for the site. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:24:49All right. That's very helpful, guys. Thanks. I'll turn it over. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:24:53No. Thanks, Joe. Operator00:25:00Our next question comes from Mike Parkin with National Bank. Please go ahead. Mike ParkinAnalyst at National Bank00:25:06Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Looking at slide five Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:25:10Yes, Mike. Mike ParkinAnalyst at National Bank00:25:12Hi, guys. Great slide there kind of given the quarterly expectations of the portfolio. Just wondering with Rochester, with cold weather in the winter months and the size of the pad, is there a thermal load that isn't quite sufficient there? That's when you get that bit of a softer Q1 on your gold production, your silver, because your leach kinetics just slowed down and then kind of picks up as it warms up? Or is it still more just grade tonnes under leach that are driving that more back half weighted, obviously, because you're still getting up on a slower recovery there on a slower leach curve, but just wondering what's driving that significant back half weighted outlook for Rochester in the second half? Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:26:11Yes, Mike. Thanks, Mike. I think it's a little bit of both actually, but Mick can give you a little more detail. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:26:19Yes, absolutely. So the main driver behind that really is though that momentum play that I talked about. So we get those residual ounces over a long period, particularly with silver, right, because the leach curves for gold are much faster as you know, but silver take a little bit longer. And because of the size fractions that we saw through last year, right, the momentum and the leach curves through that for that contribution through 2025 just build up throughout the year. So you see that momentum build through Q1, Q2 and into the back end of the year as we continue to feed those lower better size fractions to the heap leach pad. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:26:59There is a bit of weather and obviously loading rates during those adverse weather conditions also impact that typically in my open pit mines at Wharf and Rochester a little bit trickier in Q1. But overall, that's the main key reason. Mike ParkinAnalyst at National Bank00:27:17Okay. And on that, you guys are almost there on size. I didn't remember to look for that actually last night. Where are you in terms of your fragmentation or like your grind size, stacking size at Rochester? Are you at your same target or is there still a little bit of work to be done there? Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:27:40Yes, I think it's fair to say that Mick mentioned some numbers earlier around 70% last year was hitting 5.8%. So we still got a little bit of work to do to get that up to 80%. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:27:55Yes. And it's we're seeing numbers that are north of that when we're feeding it with the right ore, which we can do. We did those tests in December and January and they assured that we can do that. And we've now just got to optimize a little bit more on my blasting practices in the pit and then a little bit more controls and tuning on the crusher as to be expected, right? We're really only getting towards one year in now on that ramp up curve and it's really controlling in well there. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:28:25So, yes, a little bit more work to do, but not too far to go. And one thing that you will see and you have to think about is, of course, that direct to part material is of a size higher size fraction. We don't put that through the crusher at all because it's already pretty well broken material and we wouldn't add any value by putting DTP through the crusher. So that goes straight to pad and that's at a slightly higher size fraction. So you have to think about how to unpick that from a recovery curve perspective. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:28:54But the fantastic thing about DTP is of course that that doesn't go against our air permit for the crusher. So that limit of 32,000,000 tons is crushed material where DTP can actually be put on the pad and generate value outside that 32,000,000 ton limit. So very positive. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:29:12Couple of things, Mike, I'd just tack on there to what Mick said. Recovery rates are tracking expectations or predicted rates for the size of the material that we're putting out there. So we feel good about that, that we've got a good handle on that. And I think as we look at 2025 and the setup there at Rochester of getting into that 7,500,000 to 8,000,000 ounce, silver production level, 80,000, 70 thousand ounces or so of gold. And then those cost per ton, there's a good slide. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:29:46I thought maybe when you said a good slide, Mike, you were going to say Slide seven of that Rochester, the cost per ton, we spent a lot of year telling people last year that we'd be getting into that kind of sub $2 a ton mining cost and $3 a ton processing and $1 a ton or so on G and A. And sometimes people have looked at us with a little bit of skepticism. So it's nice to see that we're targeting those levels and obviously driving at these prices, especially the kind of cash flow out of Rochester this year that's going to be a key driver for us along then with obviously the addition of Las Chispos. Mike ParkinAnalyst at National Bank00:30:25No, for sure. I really appreciate that additional color you got there on '24 just showing the great improvement quarter over quarter on all your inputs. So congrats on doing well in Rochester. That's it for me guys. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:30:39Yes. Okay. Thanks, Mike. Operator00:30:43This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mitchell Grebs, Chairman, President and CEO, for any closing remarks. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:30:54Okay. Well, thank you. Thanks, everyone, for taking the time. I know it's a busy reporting day. Appreciate it. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:30:59We look forward to speaking again after we release our first quarter results here in the spring. Have a good day, and thanks again for your time. Operator00:31:10The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsParticipantsExecutivesAoife McGrathSenior Vice President, ExplorationThomas WhelanSVP & CFOAnalystsMitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur MiningMichael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur MiningJoseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLCMike ParkinAnalyst at National BankPowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCoeur Mining Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsRemove Ads Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) Coeur Mining Earnings HeadlinesBrokerages Set Coeur Mining, Inc. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Core Mining Fourth Quarter twenty twenty four Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mitchell Krebs, Chairman, President and CEO. Please go ahead. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:00:39Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining our call today to discuss our fourth quarter and full year results. Before we start, we want to quickly point out our cautionary language regarding forward looking statements in today's slide deck and refer you to our SEC filings on our website. I'll start with some quick highlights before turning the call over to Mick, Aoife and Tom for some more color on our results and on our 2025 outlook. By any measure, 2024 was one of the most consequential years in Core's nearly one hundred year history. The company is in the midst of an inflection point following a period of heavy investment to reposition us as a larger scale, growing, lower cost silver and gold producer with a more conservative balance sheet. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:01:28The second half of last year marked the beginning of this inflection point with $85,000,000 of free cash flow, $80,000,000 of debt reduction, nearly $90,000,000 of earnings, the successful ramp up of our Rochester expansion and the announcement of the Silvercrest acquisition. Our full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA more than doubled to $339,000,000 compared to the prior year. Looking ahead to 2025, we're entering the year incredibly well positioned to deliver record results and be a true global leader among silver companies at just the right time. We expect production levels from our five North American operations to reach over 400,000 ounces of gold and over 18,000,000 ounces of silver this year, which are 2062% higher than last year's levels. We anticipate delivering record levels of EBITDA, earnings and free cash flow that can be used to aggressively pay down debt and leave us with a peer leading balance sheet by year end. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:02:33The combination of Rochester's First full year post expansion, ten point five months of the newly acquired Las Chepas operation, steady performance from our other operations and higher prices are the key drivers to this expected record year. Looking further out, our news release on Tuesday covering year end 2024 reserves and resources showcased the company's strengthening pipeline of mineral inventory. Just a few quick highlights looking at Slide 10. Over the past five years, we've invested $285,000,000 in exploration that has led to a 26% increase in gold reserves, 30% increase in silver reserves along with material increases in both gold and silver resources, putting us in a great position to further extend mine lives at our operations. Two great examples of this from last year's results are the sharp resource increases at Palmarejo and Wharf. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:03:33Palmarejo's inferred resources jumped by 75% year over year, while Wharf's M and I resources doubled and its inferred resources tripled year over year, giving us a high level of confidence in delivering meaningful mine life extensions at these two operations in coming years. One other highlight from Tuesday's release is the addition of the high grade Las Chispas asset, which provided a 12% boost to our overall reserve grade, which reflects the quality of this newly acquired asset. Mick, over to you. Thanks, Mitch. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:04:11Kerr's portfolio finished the year on a strong note, highlighted by great results at Wharf and Palmarejo and continued growth at Rochester coming less than a year since start up and initial production. Beginning with Rochester, the newly expanded operation continues to trend positively with tonnes placed during the quarter delivered within our targeted level of 7,000,000 to 8,000,000 tonnes on the way to a 34% increase in silver production compared to the third quarter and 63% increase in gold production over the same period. This growth contributed to over $12,000,000 of free cash flow during the quarter. We are also seeing continued success in the first month of the year as the team placed an additional 2,400,000 tonnes on the leach pad, which was right on plan. Mining, crushing and recoveries continue to show strong sequential improvement even as periodic pauses to the circuit have taken place to address planned modifications and typical start up work. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:05:18Placement of high grade backfill material once again contributed to pad placement rates during the quarter. The relatively large size fraction of this material led to increased leach cycle times of silver, which presented a slightly lower than planned silver production in the quarter, but contributed to a strong overall finish to the year. As expected, costs applicable to sales were within full year guidance ranges and declined by 14% in the fourth quarter as throughput rates continue to claim. Looking ahead, 2025 production guidance of 7,000,000 to 8,300,000 ounces of silver and 60,000 to 75,000 ounces of gold represent year over year increases of 7572%, respectively. Higher sustained throughput rates are expected to continue driving down unit costs, which are shown on Slide seven on a per tonne and per ounce basis. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:06:20Turning to Palmarejo. The team delivered another solid quarter to cap a great year, with gold and silver production increasing 83% year over year, respectively, leading to $108,000,000 of free cash flow, which was the highest level in seven years. Palmarejo also continues to position itself for the future with the completion of the Hidalgo portal leading to enhanced flexibility and access to new ore drives in 2025 and beyond. We expect another typical year of silver and gold production at Palmarejo in 2025. Moving to Kensington. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:07:01Gold production increased throughout 2024, leading to a strong bounce back year with 13% growth compared to 2023. With Kensington's Multi Year investment and underground main development and exploration now beginning to wane down, 2025 production guidance reflects the enhanced flexibility and successful reserve additions we achieved to set up Kensington for another 5% increase in production compared to 2024 and a return to positive free cash flow this year. Finishing up with Wharf. As expected, fourth quarter production moderated compared to the unusually high third quarter result, but still managed to deliver annual gold growth of 5%, leading to a full year free cash flow of $95,000,000 which sets a new record for the operation. Wharf's twenty twenty five guidance reflects a similar year of stable production ahead. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:08:01Turning briefly to a couple of key items on CapEx gains. Slide 11 highlights a year of more typical sustaining CapEx spending following the completion of the Rochester expansion. With a few additional focused high return capital investments anticipated in 2025. At Kensington, we plan to commence a tailings dam raise to realize the value from its extended mine life. At Rochester, we plan to complete some modifications after startup projects across the crushing system to further improve flexibility and drive efficiency. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:08:37And finally, the recent success at Juno and the North Foley targets at Wharf requires a modest increase in capital this year to support an expected material extension to its main life. With that, I'll pass the call over to Aoife. Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:08:54Thanks, Mick. The fourth quarter closed out a very successful year for Coors exploration programs. Starting with the good news at Kensington, the multiyear underground development and drilling program is proving very successful with the doubling of reserves since the program began in mid-twenty twenty two. Multiple new zones were discovered last year, which will be followed up on in 2025. Given this much more comfortable mine life, our focus will pivot towards maintaining this steady five year life of mine and targeting higher grade zones to maximize the operations cash flow. Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:09:35We also had a very busy year at Palmarejo where the aim was to further bolster the inferred pipeline for future conversion to reserves. A new discovery was made in the Hidalgo Corridor, the Libertad footwall vein, which was a significant contributor to the overall ANZ addition there. Furthermore, early stage work on the newly acquired Fresneo claims is outlining multiple new veins with an additional 12 kilometers of strike length outlined on the Independencia sewer block. These are located directly southeast of existing mine infrastructure and we recently commenced drilling to test the southeast extensions of the veins in the main mine corridor. 39% of last year's exploration budget at Palmarejo was spent outside the area of interest impacted by the Franco Nevada gold stream, and this is expected to increase to 60% in 2025 now that we fully consolidated the land position to the east of existing operations. Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:10:41At Rochester, One program of note last year was the campaign targeting the previously undrilled portion of East Rochester, the Wedge, and also targeting higher grades on the Black Ridge and other faults. Higher grades were found on a subvertical structure in East Rochester and a large portion of colluvium in the wedge, previously thought to be waste, was shown to have mineralization. The impacts of this work will be evaluated after a more aggressive drill program planned for late this year and continuing into 2026. Last but not least, the three pronged program at Silvertip paid off in Bowens. The underground near mine drilling extended the Southern Silver and saddle Zones along strike. Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:11:28The program of large drill step outs intersected massive sulfide mineralization in five of five holes up to one kilometer from the most recent resource shape for Southern Silver Zone. And two more Silvertip lookalikes were outlined in the regional program. We plan to follow-up on these during the upcoming summer seasons. Looking at Slide nine, we expect to invest about $85,000,000 on exploration in 2025. Like last year, this year's exploration will be weighted towards scout and expansion drilling with the aim of further bolstering our inferred resources for future conversion. Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:12:07We also aim to maintain steady mine lives now that we have successfully extended them across the portfolio over the past few years. With that, I'll pass the call to Tom. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:12:19Thanks, Aoife. The third quarter was the beginning of the major inflection point that we had all been waiting for since the launch of the Rochester expansion in 2020. The momentum continued during the fourth quarter with Rochester joining the free cash flow party with its first positive free cash flow quarter since 2019, driven by the steady progress of the ramp up of the crusher and the increase in ounces placed on the leach pad, as Mick described. Turning to the financial summary on Slide eight. Key 2024 headlines included revenue exceeding the $1,000,000,000 mark, adjusted EBITDA increasing by almost $200,000,000 to $339,000,000 capital expenditures at $183,000,000 were cut in half versus the prior year, which allowed us to increase our exploration expenditures to approximately $60,000,000 And our average quarterly free cash flow was $43,000,000 during the second half of twenty twenty four. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:13:20Turning to the balance sheet summary on Slide 12, our planned debt reduction continued during the fourth quarter with another $30,000,000 repaid on our revolving credit facility, leaving us with a significantly improved net debt to EBITDA ratio of 1.6x versus 3.4x one year ago. Core's rapid balance sheet strengthening will accelerate in 2025 off the back of higher gold and silver production, stronger commodity prices and of course, the closing of the Silvercrest transaction last Friday. We expect that our revolver balance, which stood at $195,000,000 drawn at 12/31/2024, will be repaid by the second half of twenty twenty five. And our long stated goal of net debt to EBITDA of nil is in sight. We are excited to present the 2025 guidance on Slide 14, which includes Las Chistas for the first time, albeit for only ten point five months. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:14:18Key themes for 2025 include production growth driven by Rochester and Las Cheapest and an acceleration of free cash flow and debt repayment. Using a $2,700 gold price and a $30 silver price, we expect to average $75,000,000 to $100,000,000 per quarter of free cash flow beginning in Q2 twenty twenty five, which will be applied to debt reduction. This free cash flow generation includes an elevated exploration investment versus 2024 as we continue to find excellent opportunities to invest across our portfolio to generate returns above our cost of capital. The potential material mine life extension at Wharf jumps out as a poster child for our focus as a company on ROIC. Exciting times indeed. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:15:08One note of caution, Q1 twenty twenty five will be a bit messy and not representative of the go forward business as Q1 will only include forty five days of Las Chiasma's operating results and we will incur several one time outflows, which will impact our operating cash flow during the quarter. Those outflows include an estimated $80,000,000 of 1Q tax payments in Mexico related to the strong financial results at both Palmarejo and Las Chispas in 2024. The payments associated with Cora's annual incentive plan and the semi annual interest payment on our long term notes a much larger annual property tax payment at the expanded Rochester mine and Silvercrest transaction costs. It is important to highlight that absent these one time outflows, first quarter free cash flow would have been expected to be positive. I'll now pass the call back to Mitch. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:16:03Thanks, Tom. Before moving to the Q and A, I want to quickly highlight Slide 13 that summarizes our top priorities for 2025. With the completion of the Silvercrest acquisition last Friday, I just want to take a moment and quickly thank our team and the Silvercrest team for their efforts in making this transaction happen and welcome the Las Chispas team to the company as well as welcome Eric Fear and Pierre Baudois to our Board of Directors. Thanks to a lot of hard work by a lot of people over many years coupled with incredibly strong fundamentals for both gold and silver, we're seeing several key catalysts converge at once that have the company positioned better than ever heading into 2025. From a solid platform of five North American operations, Core provides near term growth, unmatched silver exposure, dramatic cash flow increases, a rapidly strengthening balance sheet, peer leading liquidity and a fertile pipeline of exploration targets to support the next phase of growth in the years ahead. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:17:11With that, let's go ahead and open it up for questions. Operator00:17:48The first question comes from Joseph Greger with Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:17:56Hey, Mitch and team. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on all the accomplishments. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:18:01Hey, Joe. Thanks. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:18:04So I guess first thing on the Las Chepas acquisition, can you give us an update on what the cash and bullion equated to at the time of the closing? Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:18:16Yes. Thanks for the question. Obviously, the balance sheet that Silvercrest had was one of the key deal rationale points using that cash and bullion to reduce debt here in the first quarter and then combined with the free cash flow from Las Cheapest during the year that should help us delever quite quickly. Tom, do you want to talk a little bit more about where they were at least at your end and how we see that playing out from here? Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:18:43Sure. Thanks, Joe. So as they noted in their news release, $153,000,000 in cash and $40,000,000 in bullion, and they didn't sell any of the bullion between year end and Valentine's Day when we closed the transaction. They did pay a bunch of bills in the first forty four days, including a lot of their transaction costs, etcetera, etcetera. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:19:09So that balance is Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:19:11closer to $100,000,000 as we approached the closing date. But as Mitch said, the game plan here is it's going to be a bit of a messy quarter as we deal with our transaction costs, the big tax bill. I mean, it's nearly $40,000,000 for each of the two subsidiaries given the strong performance. So anyway, that's just want to highlight that Q1 is going to be a bit messy. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:19:39Okay. That's helpful. Two other specific operational things I noticed. One, Kensington, the cost per ounce is going up a decent amount from last year. And then at Rochester, there was a mention of crush size in Q4 that that was part of the reason for production being a little lower. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:20:06Can you just touch on what crush size issue is? Is it behind you? And then on Kensington, what's driving the higher costs? Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:20:14Yes, I can I'll start I'll take maybe I'll go with the second question first and then we'll hit Kensington Second. Just on Rochester, I'll offer up a couple of comments and then Mick you can give Joe some additional detail. Yes, we did place a little bit more of that direct to pad material that we call DTP in the fourth quarter. I think about 3,000,000 tons that went out onto the leach pad came from that material. And that's previously mined higher grade, slightly larger size material, more like a couple of inch size. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:20:46And we did that to really offset some pressure downtime that we took during the quarter to take care of a few items that had been identified leading up to the fourth quarter and we pulled some twenty first quarter twenty twenty five planned maintenance into the fourth quarter and decided to take care of those items just to set us up better for a good strong clean 2025. So that did impact slightly the crush size in the fourth quarter and was really the driver to the slightly lighter silver production. And when you think about 2025, we'll crush probably right around 30,000,000 tons and then place on top of that another probably 5,000,000 or 6,000,000 tons of that direct to pad material. The limit on the the permit limit on the crusher is 32,000,000 tons. So that direct to pad material is profitable and it gives us an opportunity to kind of exceed that permit limit on the crusher. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:21:58It does have a slight impact on recovery given that larger crush size, but it's profitable material. And just I'd say on the crush size overall, the progress toward the 5.8% goal continued to make a lot of progress. Mick can give you some additional details on that. I know we've run a couple of specific campaigns focused on hitting that in December and again in January. And we've definitely the crusher has proven its ability to deliver that fiveeight inches product that we're targeting. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:22:29But Mick, do you want to fill any blanks on that? And then also hit the Kensington question? Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:22:35Yes, for sure. Thanks, Joe. We're absolutely pumped actually. We're seeing that momentum build right across 2024. Since we started on the March 8, it's not that long ago, right? Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:22:48It feels like a while, but it's really not. We look across the whole of 2024 and we had around 70% of that material through the whole year that was passing that fiveeight inches size fraction. So that performance is getting better and better, still a bit of work to do. We did those tests, as Mitch mentioned in December and January and they were very specifically to understand the nature of the ore body and what the control limits were to ensure we can send that right blend to the crusher to hit that size fraction. And we're not going to be able to do that all of the time because we are as you're higher up in the ore body, we get some pretty soft ores and they're not really applicable to putting through the tertiary crusher. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:23:30So we bypass those a little bit and we see a slightly higher size fraction now and again. But overall those tests showed that when we want to and we'll provide that crusher with the right blend of hard and soft doors, it can hit that fiveeight size fraction well. And so overall, really, really happy about that. On Kensington, Aoife McGrathSenior Vice President, Exploration at Coeur Mining00:23:50Tom, can you say something? Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:23:51Yes. Joe, a couple of things on Kensington. As we've talked about, there's been a lot of work on the multi year program. And so as a result, a few more people on-site, so labor and camp costs were higher, more expensed underground mine development. But the real thing to monitor there is just the sensitivity to the grade. Thomas WhelanSVP & CFO at Coeur Mining00:24:14If you pull out the chart on Page nine of the earnings release, you sort of see, right, when Kensington's at 0.14, those costs really pop up and we need to the more 0.16 quarters like we had in Q3, Q4, the better the cost goes. So it's a bit of the increased activity and then that sensitivity grade. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:24:37And a little bit of timing, Tom. There's a couple of power plant overhauls that were just scheduled for this year where we only did one last year. So there's just a little bit of time in our maintenance and reliability for the site. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:24:49All right. That's very helpful, guys. Thanks. I'll turn it over. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:24:53No. Thanks, Joe. Operator00:25:00Our next question comes from Mike Parkin with National Bank. Please go ahead. Mike ParkinAnalyst at National Bank00:25:06Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Looking at slide five Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:25:10Yes, Mike. Mike ParkinAnalyst at National Bank00:25:12Hi, guys. Great slide there kind of given the quarterly expectations of the portfolio. Just wondering with Rochester, with cold weather in the winter months and the size of the pad, is there a thermal load that isn't quite sufficient there? That's when you get that bit of a softer Q1 on your gold production, your silver, because your leach kinetics just slowed down and then kind of picks up as it warms up? Or is it still more just grade tonnes under leach that are driving that more back half weighted, obviously, because you're still getting up on a slower recovery there on a slower leach curve, but just wondering what's driving that significant back half weighted outlook for Rochester in the second half? Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:26:11Yes, Mike. Thanks, Mike. I think it's a little bit of both actually, but Mick can give you a little more detail. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:26:19Yes, absolutely. So the main driver behind that really is though that momentum play that I talked about. So we get those residual ounces over a long period, particularly with silver, right, because the leach curves for gold are much faster as you know, but silver take a little bit longer. And because of the size fractions that we saw through last year, right, the momentum and the leach curves through that for that contribution through 2025 just build up throughout the year. So you see that momentum build through Q1, Q2 and into the back end of the year as we continue to feed those lower better size fractions to the heap leach pad. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:26:59There is a bit of weather and obviously loading rates during those adverse weather conditions also impact that typically in my open pit mines at Wharf and Rochester a little bit trickier in Q1. But overall, that's the main key reason. Mike ParkinAnalyst at National Bank00:27:17Okay. And on that, you guys are almost there on size. I didn't remember to look for that actually last night. Where are you in terms of your fragmentation or like your grind size, stacking size at Rochester? Are you at your same target or is there still a little bit of work to be done there? Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:27:40Yes, I think it's fair to say that Mick mentioned some numbers earlier around 70% last year was hitting 5.8%. So we still got a little bit of work to do to get that up to 80%. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:27:55Yes. And it's we're seeing numbers that are north of that when we're feeding it with the right ore, which we can do. We did those tests in December and January and they assured that we can do that. And we've now just got to optimize a little bit more on my blasting practices in the pit and then a little bit more controls and tuning on the crusher as to be expected, right? We're really only getting towards one year in now on that ramp up curve and it's really controlling in well there. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:28:25So, yes, a little bit more work to do, but not too far to go. And one thing that you will see and you have to think about is, of course, that direct to part material is of a size higher size fraction. We don't put that through the crusher at all because it's already pretty well broken material and we wouldn't add any value by putting DTP through the crusher. So that goes straight to pad and that's at a slightly higher size fraction. So you have to think about how to unpick that from a recovery curve perspective. Michael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur Mining00:28:54But the fantastic thing about DTP is of course that that doesn't go against our air permit for the crusher. So that limit of 32,000,000 tons is crushed material where DTP can actually be put on the pad and generate value outside that 32,000,000 ton limit. So very positive. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:29:12Couple of things, Mike, I'd just tack on there to what Mick said. Recovery rates are tracking expectations or predicted rates for the size of the material that we're putting out there. So we feel good about that, that we've got a good handle on that. And I think as we look at 2025 and the setup there at Rochester of getting into that 7,500,000 to 8,000,000 ounce, silver production level, 80,000, 70 thousand ounces or so of gold. And then those cost per ton, there's a good slide. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:29:46I thought maybe when you said a good slide, Mike, you were going to say Slide seven of that Rochester, the cost per ton, we spent a lot of year telling people last year that we'd be getting into that kind of sub $2 a ton mining cost and $3 a ton processing and $1 a ton or so on G and A. And sometimes people have looked at us with a little bit of skepticism. So it's nice to see that we're targeting those levels and obviously driving at these prices, especially the kind of cash flow out of Rochester this year that's going to be a key driver for us along then with obviously the addition of Las Chispos. Mike ParkinAnalyst at National Bank00:30:25No, for sure. I really appreciate that additional color you got there on '24 just showing the great improvement quarter over quarter on all your inputs. So congrats on doing well in Rochester. That's it for me guys. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:30:39Yes. Okay. Thanks, Mike. Operator00:30:43This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mitchell Grebs, Chairman, President and CEO, for any closing remarks. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:30:54Okay. Well, thank you. Thanks, everyone, for taking the time. I know it's a busy reporting day. Appreciate it. Mitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur Mining00:30:59We look forward to speaking again after we release our first quarter results here in the spring. Have a good day, and thanks again for your time. Operator00:31:10The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsParticipantsExecutivesAoife McGrathSenior Vice President, ExplorationThomas WhelanSVP & CFOAnalystsMitchell J. KrebsPresident, CEO & Chairman at Coeur MiningMichael RoutledgeSVP & COO at Coeur MiningJoseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLCMike ParkinAnalyst at National BankPowered by