Allot Communications Q4 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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February 25, 2025

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to our fourth quarter twenty twenty four results conference call. All participants are present in listen only mode. Following management's formal presentation, instructions will be given for the question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

Operator

You should have all received by now the company's press release. If you have not received it, please contact Allot's Investor Relations team at EK Global Investor Relations at +1 27040 or view it in the News section of the company's website at www.allot.com. I would now like to hand over the call to Mr. Kenny Green of EK Global Investor Relations. Mr.

Operator

Green, would you like to begin, please?

Speaker 1

I'd like to welcome all of you to Allot's fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four results Conference Call. I would like to thank Allot's management for hosting this conference call. With me today on the call are Mr. Eyal Harari, CEO and Ms. Liat Nahum, CFO.

Speaker 1

Following Eyal's prepared remarks, we will open the call for the question and answer session. And both Eyal and Lia will be available to answer those questions. You can all find the highlights of the quarter, including financial highlights and metrics, including those we typically discuss on the conference call in today's earnings release. Before we start, I'd like to point out the following Safe Harbor statements. This conference call may contain projections of other forward looking statements regarding future events or the future performance of the company.

Speaker 1

Those statements are early predictions and Allot cannot guarantee that they will in fact occur. Allot does not assume any obligation to update that information. Actual events or results may differ materially from those projected, including as a result of changing market trends, delays in the launch of services by a lot customers, reduced demand and the competitive nature of the securities services industry, as well as other risks identified in the documents filed by the company with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Also, the financial results in this call will be presented mainly on a non GAAP basis. Allot believes that these non GAAP financial measures provide more consistent and comparable measures to help investors understand Allot's operating performance in the quarter.

Speaker 1

For all the data, please refer to the financial tables published in the results press release issued earlier today, which also include the GAAP to non GAAP financial reconciliation tables. And with that, I would now like to hand the call over to Eyal Harari, CEO.

Speaker 2

Eyal, please go ahead. Thank you, Kenny. I would like to welcome all of you to our results conference call and thank you for joining us today. We are very pleased to report strong fourth quarter and full year 2024 results demonstrating that both year over year and sequentially, representing a return to revenue growth. For the full year of 2024, we reported revenues at a similar level to those of last year.

Speaker 2

A strong contributor to revenues was our growth engine, the Security as a Service solution, CCaaS, consistently growing sequentially and year over year. For the full year, CCaaS contributed revenues of $16,500,000 up 56% over the previous year and the ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR and ARR

Speaker 3

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Speaker 2

ARR and of around 70%, a significant recovery from around 57% in 2023. Our results show the return to profitability with a non GAAP net income of $5,600,000 for the year versus a loss of $53,000,000 last year. Importantly, we reported positive cash flow generation for the first time in several years, generating $4,800,000 in 2024. As a result, our year end cash position increased to $59,000,000 a positive trend that we expect to continue going forward. I would very much like to thank the fantastic team at Allot for their hard work through the past year, supporting and bringing about the successful turnaround.

Speaker 2

I admire their determination and dedication, which was key in achieving the strong results of 2024. I'm incredibly proud of what we have accomplished together and I look forward to building on this momentum in the years ahead. Our security first strategy and renewed go to market focus are gaining strong traction and momentum. A recent highlight was securing significant new contracts, which included major telecom operators in key markets. I'm especially excited with our recent win with Verizon, which I will elaborate on in a few minutes.

Speaker 2

A lot continues to gain strong traction among telcos and CSPs as we work closely with them to market our cybersecurity solution and help their end customers adopt our solutions. The continued success of CCUS demonstrates that consumers and small businesses appreciate the importance of being seamlessly and fully protected by their service provider. As we move through 2025 and continue to successfully advance our security first strategy, Allot is well positioned and very much at an inflection point of a new long term trend of growth and profitability. Today, our smart product line is sold as part of our unified security first business structure. It is a solid product built on Allot's excellent technology and years of innovation and it continues to provide significant a stable level of revenue from our smart product line during the coming year.

Speaker 2

While this product line long term visibility is less predictable than our product line, we have a solid pipeline in 2025 and we believe there is a potential for upside. Now moving over to our growth engine, our Seacast offering. Our Seacast revenue continue to grow contributing an increasing share of our business as each quarter passes. Looking ahead to 2025, we expect another year of strong double digit CCAS revenue and ARR growth and improved profitability. Growth will be driven largely by our extensive and growing list of top tier customers launching our solution as well as the increased traction of our security solution among the subscriber bases of those customers.

Speaker 2

We have a strong pipeline of opportunities that we are working on, some of which we hope to convert to new contracts in the coming quarters. To demonstrate our growing momentum and strong traction, I want to highlight a few examples of recent service provider launches in our Seacast business. We were very happy to announce the signing of the new agreement between Allot and Verizon Business in which Allot will support them with cybersecurity solution for their mobile phone business customers. We are proud to partner with Verizon, one of the largest and most prestigious wireless provider in The United States and the world. Since late twenty twenty two, we have partnered with Verizon to provide our network based cybersecurity protection to Verizon Business Fixed Wireless Access customers giving 1,500,000 subscriber the option to use our service.

Speaker 2

This service has experienced strong adoption over the past year and continue to grow among the Verizon Business customer base. This new agreement makes our solution potentially available to the extended Verizon Business mobile customer base. As of 2024, year end, Verizon Business reported over 30,000,000 subscribers representing significant targeted addressable market and long term growth opportunity for Allot. Our Network Secure product will support Verizon business, expand security capabilities offering the customers zero touch protection from a wide range of cyber threats. We have built a solid strong working relationship with Verizon business and we hope to extend our collaboration with them further over the coming years.

Speaker 2

In November, we announced a new contract with Vodafone UK and our relationship with them continues to grow. Together, we launched a protection service to fix broadband customers, complementing the cybersecurity protection they already provide to mobile customers, all builds on alert services. Our solution enhances threat protection across both Wollipon UK mobile and broadband networks and across all customer devices on the home network. In only few months since launch, our solution has gained strong traction and notably increased customer satisfaction at Vodafone UK. Last month, O2Cec Republic, part of Group launched a cybersecurity solution for both mobile and fixed broadband customers powered by Allot DNS Secure.

Speaker 2

O2 is now the fifth operator of Group to deploy our security solution further strengthening our footprint within the group. Last quarter, I discussed Allot's new organizational structure and strategy for new growth. I will recap our strategy especially for our new investors. Allot is becoming security first company operating under one unified business unit. Our foundation is deep expertise and proven capabilities combining two key areas, cybersecurity and network intelligence.

Speaker 2

We have been working hard to leverage synergies between our existing network intelligent assets and our security offering including integrated cloud based solution focused on network visibility, traffic management and cybersecurity for the five gs era. The combination creates a compelling value proposition enabling us to deliver a highly differentiated fully integrated solution, one that only handful of companies worldwide can match. For example, we see strong value in offering CSP customers, traditionally network intelligence customers a combined offering that enhance their ability to protect networks while maintaining the feasibility into traffic. Target threats are constantly expanding and finding new ways to take advantage of the consumer. We are looking to stay ahead of those threats by broadening our security offering to offer a three sixty degree cybersecurity protection both on and off net.

Speaker 2

Today, telco customers can seamlessly provide cybersecurity to end users while connected to their networks. Our vision is that our customers will be able to provide consumer with the protection at all times whatever network they choose to use. Our product and R and D teams are constantly working to broaden our security as a service offering looking to add ever growing value to our customers to ensure our solution maintain its unique value proposition. With our strong market presence, expanding portfolio of innovative solution and agility in meeting customer needs, we are well positioned to win new customers, while also continue to expand within our existing customer base. This brings me to our customer centric go to market approach.

Speaker 2

We have structured the organization to better support evolving customer demands. Our marketing and sales team now have a regional focus on sales and customer success, empowering them to function more effectively, while enabling a more personalized approach. We believe this new structure is already creating opportunities for us, expanding our installed base and attracting new customers. In summary, we are pleased with our performance in 2024, culminating in a strong fourth quarter with double digit success revenue and ARR growth and a positive profit and cash flow. It is clear that a lot is a key inflection point of profitable growth following our first profitable year on an ongoing basis in a very long time.

Speaker 2

Our security offering continue to gain momentum as is demonstrated by recent new contract wins and service launches at leading customers. Our unified security first strategy integrating cybersecurity and network intelligence differentiates us in the market delivering fully integrated solution that widely enhance value for both existing and new customers. Looking ahead to 2025, we remain focused on advancing our strategy and executing on another year of double digit CCaaS revenue and ARR growth and improved profitability. I'm increasingly optimistic about the expanding opportunities ahead. And now, I would like to hand it over to our CFO, Liat Nahum, for the financial summary.

Speaker 2

Liat, please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Eyal. We reported revenue of $24,900,000 in the quarter, up 2% year over year. For 2024, we reported revenues of $92,200,000 just 1% below those of 2023. Revenue from our gross engine, CCAS, quarter. Our second annual recurring revenues as of December 2024 were $18,200,000 I will now discuss the non GAAP financial measures.

Speaker 4

For all our financial results, including the GAAP financial measures and the various other breakdowns of our revenue, please refer to the table in our results press release. Our non GAAP gross margin in the quarter was 69.7%, a significant improvement from 51.7% in the fourth quarter of last year. For the full year, gross margin dramatically improved to 70.6 versus 59.6% last year. While the non GAAP gross margin depends on the specific product mix sold in the quarter, our expectation for gross margin in the coming year is in the range of 70%. We reduced expenses considerably over the past year with a non GAAP OpEx at $15,600,000 40 7 percent below those of fourth quarter of last year.

Speaker 4

Full year 2024 OpEx was $64,400,000 versus $111,000,000 in 2023. Allot had five zero four full time employees as of December 2024. We reported a non GAAP operating income of $1,800,000 which is a significant improvement compared with a non GAAP operating loss of $17,000,000 in Q4 last year. For 2024, we reported a non GAAP operating income of $600,000 versus $55,000,000 non GAAP operating loss in 2023. In terms of non GAAP net profit, we reported $2,000,000 in the quarter or a profit of $0.05 per diluted share as compared with a non GAAP net loss of $16,500,000 or a loss of $0.43 per basic share in the fourth quarter of last year.

Speaker 4

For 2024, we reported a non GAAP net income of $1,600,000 or $0.04 per diluted share versus a non GAAP net loss of $53,300,000 or a loss of $1.41 per share in 2023. We reported positive operating cash flow in the fourth quarter of 4,100,000 and a positive operating cash flow of $4,800,000 in 2024. Cash, certain bank deposit and investment as of 12/31/2024, totaled $58,800,000 versus $54,800,000 as of year end twenty twenty three. That ends my summary. Eyal and myself would now be happy to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. The first question is from Nehal Chokshi of Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

All right. Thank you. Hey, congrats on the strong free cash flow generation for the quarter. What would you say is a driver of that?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Niall. We did see continuous growth on the CCaaS and it's mainly based on our growth with the existing CCaaS customer base as well as the new announcement or new services launch that we mentioned with customers like Vodafone, Mio and O2. Obviously, some of the one of the most exciting announcements about Verizon is something that we contribute more reviewing and success growth in the future, but is not yet contributing to this quarter numbers. So we see that the growth engine is producing the growth we expect as BOS said, we need new accounts, we need new services within the existing accounts and expanding the adoption of the end customers within the existing services at the existing home. So all of them are working towards additional growth and this was yield overall very nice growth this year.

Speaker 3

Okay. So I did notice that within the revenue segmentation provided, support and maintenance was up almost Q. That's one of the biggest amounts I've taken a long time. What was the driver of that increase? Was this basically the new customers that were being onboarded?

Speaker 2

So support and maintenance is mainly based on our smart board decline as the secrecy is a SaaS model and does not support does not provide any support and maintenance revenue. Reason is due to Q4 catch up on support and maintenance agreement, typically end of the year we have strong results there and this is similar level to what we had last year. I see. Okay. As for renewals of agreement that we managed to do leveraging

Speaker 3

the end

Speaker 2

of the year to win that.

Speaker 3

I see. So in terms of like this catch up, it was actually a positive cash flow contributor though. It wasn't just simply an accounting reflection.

Speaker 2

No, no. It's orders that we've received that increased our business on supported maintenance, both cash and revenue.

Speaker 3

Got it. Okay. And then product revenue, that was down 55% year over year. Why is that?

Speaker 2

Can you repeat the question?

Speaker 3

Product revenue was $4,800,000 for the December. I believe that was down 55% year over year. Why is it down so much?

Speaker 2

Yes. Can you take

Speaker 4

it? Yes, sure. So as we stated also in previous quarters, our product revenue, which is mainly the DTI base is can fluctuate between quarters and it really depends on specific deals in each quarter. In general, we can say that, of course, as you can see, each quarter, the CCAT revenue percentage out of the total is increasing. And therefore, it impacts the rest of the percentages.

Speaker 4

But overall, it really depends on the specific quarter, the seasonality and if we have specific CPI large deals.

Speaker 3

Okay. All right. And so, could we be thinking looking at the December quarter year over year trajectory as an indicator as how things are going to go for calendar twenty twenty five in terms of the product revenue or is that more a reflection of the lumpiness? And how would you suggest thinking about product revenue starting in calendar twenty twenty five then?

Speaker 2

So I believe that as I mentioned in my previous prepared remarks, the smart product line as you know it's harder to predict and it can fluctuate between quarters. I think that the current quarter is a good baseline. What we see is where we are more consistent and growing is around the CCAS. So this should continue to grow in high double digit rates and we expect similar level of smart business to continue with less visibility, which means that there could be an upside due to some current pipeline things we have. But on the quarterly level, this would still fluctuate.

Speaker 2

This is non recurring revenue.

Speaker 3

Yes, understood. And then when you say CCaaS continue to grow in high double digit rates, I mean, does high double digit mean 11% or do you mean like more like 30 plus percent like what you have been doing?

Speaker 2

This year we were doing 40%, fifty % and we our goal is to maintain this success. It's a lot depends on the adoption of the service around those new wins we had and continue to execute well and win new accounts. If we look on the recent announcement we made around Verizon earlier, this could be amazing opportunity for us to really scale our security service offering to millions of customers. The pace is very hard to predict as it always depends not only on us but on the service provider in the channel. But definitely we have all the with all the recent wins we are very well positioned to keep similar growth rates and we are targeting to continue to work and execute well to maintain it in the next years to come.

Speaker 3

Got it. And then when you talk about this Verizon Business Mobile Internet Security offering and that there's a base of 30,000,000 customers, A, is that base there growing? And then B, do you have a sense as to what are the growth adds for that portion of Verizon business versus their fixed wireless access that I believe has been feeding largely your $1,000,000,000 per quarter incremental ARR and CCaaS?

Speaker 2

Yes. So the mobile industry as a whole doesn't grow much as opposed to the FWA, which is a niche service that is growing. I believe we can look on this as a stable installed base, but a TAM of three thirty million customers is now have the option to join our cyber protection services. And I think this is definitely a very significant opportunity for us. We just announced on this new service.

Speaker 2

We don't have yet statistics on the tax rates and of course it's a lot depends on how Verizon would market it to their customers. They are working on different go to market strategies. But fixed wireless access today is only 1,500,000,000 lines and we are talking about 30,000,000 devices. And I think it's not only about this new service, it's also very important that it cement our relationship with Verizon and shows their satisfaction from the solution that they want to expand our cyber protection to more of their customers. And we are going to work closely with them to assure they are delighted from our solution and hopefully we have more services we can potentially tap and protect more of their customers and more of their services.

Speaker 2

So this is really exciting opportunity for us.

Speaker 3

Okay. Do you have a sense as far as what is the rate of gross adds for that $30,000,000 base? I mean there's a churn rate and so the stable base, there's usually some churn out. I think it's a good report for the

Speaker 2

sake of exercise. You can assume $30,000,000 is a fair estimate and you Verizon share information on their financials that you can view, but it's quite stable base. And the question is now how to market this new add on service to their customer and not necessarily just on assuming growth within this space or replacement within this space.

Speaker 3

Okay. All right. And then your incremental ARR for the December was $1,000,000 versus the September being $2,600,000 So and I realize that the September was a record quarter, unusual quarter, but can you just go over the drivers of that tick down in the incremental ARR?

Speaker 2

So as I mentioned incremental ARR comes by winning new accounts and launching new services and adoption within the services. Some of the it's not linear growth because once we introduce new service, that creates some higher growth. And for example, last quarter we announced on Vodafone and this creates some time accelerated growth for the quarter. So nothing specific that more that I can share. We don't expect to see steady growth.

Speaker 2

We still work with large channels, telcos is a channel and opportunities are relatively big. So in some quarter we could see accelerated growth and in some more modest, but overall we are looking to keep strong double digit growth rate.

Speaker 3

And just to be clear, that means that the December did not have any material new customer launches or segments launched within those customers?

Speaker 2

Some launches happen and they will contribute only in Q1, for example. There is always the timing as when you launch the service there are no customers then you need to add the customers. Now it all depends on campaigns. If the customer is offering different campaigns to increase the touch rate, it increases an uptake. So there are a lot of moving parts here.

Speaker 2

And because we are working with large channels, sometimes if you have a promotion with a significant customer, it creates smarter, faster increase in the quarter. And if you are and it's not that you can expect it to be stable growth quarter over quarter.

Speaker 3

Okay. All right. I realize I've asked a lot of questions here. I do have more questions, but I'll give others a chance to ask questions. So I'll just get back in the queue here.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Niel.

Operator

The next question is a follow-up question from Chokshi, Nihal. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

All right, guys. Thanks. So just a few more cleanups here. So gross margin did tick down 200 basis points Q over Q to 69.7. I presume that that's product revenue driven.

Speaker 3

Is that correct?

Speaker 4

Yes, correct. Our gross margin is dependent on the product mix and driven from the product sales in the quarter.

Speaker 3

Okay. And what do you think positive that it was product mix as opposed to potentially some new elements of pricing pressure on the product?

Speaker 2

No, I think that you saw the improvement year over year. We had a tremendous turnaround and we got to the 70% range. It can still change slightly between the quarters,

Speaker 3

but this

Speaker 2

is on the quarters, but this is on the yearly level the numbers that we are expecting to be in the 70ish. And long term, we expect this to further improve with scale and with more customer, more revenue portion coming from the FICUS that in general it's higher gross margin by nature because this is a service as opposed to the smart product line that is sometimes has higher cost components. So I would say that on a yearly level we expect to see similar gross margin with some improvement over time with growth and move of revenue between the product revenues into the CCAS revenue.

Speaker 3

Okay. So are you seeing Sandvine coming back into the market? What are you seeing on the competitive front from the Smart Product line then?

Speaker 2

We don't refer to any comment on competition. Obviously, we are we believe we have good product and we have strong pipeline for our products. We continue to work with multiple existing new customers and potential expansions. We are not trying to go into low margin deals or price wars as we are focusing on the high tier customers and customers that can be assertive to our business. Sandvine has a good solution and I wish them the best and we are continuing to make our most focus on the security first strategy which is anyhow we are facing new competitors and new markets and this is where most of our efforts are.

Speaker 3

Great. And then OpEx for the quarter, $15,600,000 on a non GAAP basis flat Q over Q. Does it make sense for a lot to start to now invest in OpEx as the securities and service is driving the growth here?

Speaker 2

Actually this is important question as I believe that what we did this year is mainly focused on the internal transformation. I believe now we have the good fundamental model to allow us to be well positioned for the next year growth. We changed, we focused on some area and we are looking to further grow over time. The growth is going to be mainly in driving more investment towards our growth engines, both on the go to market side and R and D. On the coming few quarters, I believe you can still see some of the savings in parallel to some of the new investment.

Speaker 2

So I would say that overall on the numbers it should be flattish with some increase towards the last part of the year.

Speaker 3

Okay, great. I think that's everything I learned. Actually, one other thing. Hey, Al, you mentioned that you're looking to broaden your security offering. Can you detail a little bit more on how you're going to do that?

Speaker 2

So we are working and investing R and D around innovative ideas. I mentioned in my previous comment, one of the most important part for us is to see how we can make sure that the customer is always secured. As providing security from the network side, we are providing excellent protection for the customer while he is on his network. What we identified that some of the operators are looking to see how they can expand their security reach also to when the customer is off the network. And this is an area we are trying to bring new innovation.

Speaker 2

This is an area we envision that we can provide more value. How we can still connect the customer to the network for security protection while the customer is now on his Wi Fi or other network that is not the service provider one. This is critical for the CSPs to improve their customer retention and satisfaction and we are working on some ideas on this direction which we will share later in the year once we are getting closer to product launch.

Speaker 3

Got it. To be clear at this point in time the telecom customers provide the off network security protection through a third party security product that is not necessarily as well integrated as what you're basically envisioning here?

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 5

Got it.

Speaker 3

Okay. Very good. Thank you very much. Thank you, Nia.

Operator

The next question is from David Kanan of Kanan Wealth Management. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hi guys. Thanks for taking my questions and congratulations. I know that the in the last segment you were asked about attachment and you kind of took a pass on that. But could you address it a different way possibly like with Verizon based on turning on other carriers in the past, what kind of attachment did you get? And then is this done primarily at the point of activation when somebody upgrades their phone or they subscribe for new service and they are turning it on or activating it?

Speaker 5

Is that typically when they would uptake for security?

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you, David. So it really depends on the go to market the CSP and there are many considerations. It depends if they offer it as an opt in or opt out obviously, definitely affect the tax rate. Different operators choose different ways.

Speaker 2

Some of them are trying to combine it with the selling of new service. And typically, you do need a compelling event to make the customer join new services either if he's changing his plan or his device or joining the service. I would say that based on past experience with operator, we see that at peak we get close to 50% attack rates. Typically, if the operator is doing a a decent job and take it strategically, 15% to 20% are definitely our average attachments of customers. And it's then mainly based on how they are positioned.

Speaker 2

If it's a paid add on in opt in, it's usually slower uptake. If it's an opt out, it's much faster. If it's bundled with a package, then we grow with the package that it is attached and so on and so on. So different methods to see but some of the statistics we shared in the past is we see that peak attachments are get close to 50% and average I believe is around 15%, twenty %, twenty five % very reachable goal.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you for explaining that. And then if I could ask a question about your DPI legacy business with the troubles that Sandvine has experienced as of late and then you have some upgrades and integration with your new offering. Do you expect for 2025 that this is a business that could actually start growing, albeit modestly or it's something that will continue to contract?

Speaker 2

In my previous remarks I mentioned we are looking to best estimate is to have similar level. If you ask me whether there would be an upside, definitely there could be an upside. It really depends on winning the new projects and the timing of the revenue. We do see more opportunities in the pipeline based on our engagement with different customers. We do invest in part of the change to move into regional structure.

Speaker 2

They gave us more market focus and more engagement with customers that we see that generate us some nice opportunities in the part time. But this being said, predictability of this business is much lower and visibility is different because we it's non recurring business and it really depends if we win the project or not. So currently we estimate similar level, but there could be an upside based on some customer success and depends on the scale of the projects we will. I hope this answers

Speaker 5

your questions. Okay. Yes, that's helpful the way you answered it. And then last question is in your prepared remarks, you said something like we have a strong pipeline that we expect to convert and I believe you were referring to to CCaaS. So are you indicating that you have a strong pipeline of CCaaS prospective CCaaS customers similar to MEO and Verizon and the large Japanese carrier you recently landed.

Speaker 5

Is this incremental? And could you give us a little more color on that and quantify it and maybe what the TAM is there?

Speaker 2

So the comment was generic and we have a mix of opportunities both on the CCaaS for new services within our existing customers. We have new CCaaS potential customers. We have also new smart potential customers. And I think we are starting the year very well positioned strong to address those opportunities and nothing more that I can add on at this point.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you. We wish you well and we look forward to chatting this quarter.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you, David.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. This concludes the question and answer session. Thank you for joining us. The recording will be available on the website. You

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