NASDAQ:MIRM Mirum Pharmaceuticals Q4 2024 Earnings Report $38.75 +0.12 (+0.31%) As of 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Mirum Pharmaceuticals EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.49Consensus EPS -$0.27Beat/MissMissed by -$0.22One Year Ago EPSN/AMirum Pharmaceuticals Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$99.41 millionExpected Revenue$96.64 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$2.77 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AMirum Pharmaceuticals Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date2/26/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, February 26, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsMirum Pharmaceuticals' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Mirum Pharmaceuticals Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 26, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello and welcome to Neurom Pharmaceuticals Reports Fourth Quarter and Year End '20 '20 '4 Financial Results and provides business update. My name is Elliot and I'll be your coordinator today. I would now like to hand over to Andrew McKibben, Senior Vice President of Strategic Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:26Thanks, Elliot, and good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to welcome you to Miriam Pharmaceuticals' fourth quarter twenty twenty four conference call. I'm joined today by our CEO, Chris Pietz our Chief Medical Officer, Joanne Kwan and Eric Bjerkle, our Chief Financial Officer. Peter Radovich, our President and Chief Operating Officer, could not be with us today as he's had an international launch event in Europe this week. Earlier today, MiRim issued a news release announcing the company's results for the fourth quarter and full year 2024. Speaker 100:00:54Copies of this news release and SEC filings can be found in the Investors section of our website. Before we start, I'd like to remind you that during the course of this conference call, we will be making certain forward looking statements based on management's current expectations, including statements regarding Merum's programs and market opportunities for its approved medicines and product candidates. These statements represent our judgment as of today and inherently involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual actual results to differ materially from the results discussed. We are under no duty to update these statements. Please refer to the risk factors in our latest Form 10 K and subsequent SEC filings for more information. Speaker 100:01:29With that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Chris. Chris? Speaker 200:01:32Thanks, Andrew. And good afternoon, everyone. I'm excited to start today's call with a recap of Merum's achievements over the last year and share an update on our strategic goals for 2025. In the short time since our founding, through our focus on bringing important medicines to patients, we have created a strong business in ultra rare disease that is cash flow positive with an attractive pipeline and broader patient populations. We are still early in our journey and we firmly believe the best is yet to come. Speaker 200:02:01Our strategic priorities over the next two years are to one, further the global growth of our commercial medicines, highlighted by Lip Marley's continued Alagille syndrome expansion, early PFIC success and the recent approval of Citexley for cerebrotendinous xanthomatosis or CTX in The U. S. Two, advance our high impact pipeline, driving velixibat to potentially pivotal data in adult full astasis next year, initiating our Fragile X program for MRN337979 and completing enrollment of the EXPAND study for Lip Marley and cholestatic pruritus. Three, selectively pursue product acquisition and license opportunities and rare disease with potential for significant patient and patient impact and value creation, just as we have since the launch of Merab and four, accomplish all of the above with continued scientific and financial discipline. 2024 was a big year for delivering on strategic goals. Speaker 200:03:00Total net product sales were $336,400,000 exceeding the upper end of our revised guidance range. Lebmarly finished the year with total net product sales of $213,000,000 including approximately $155,000,000 from our U. S. Business and $59,000,000 internationally. In the second half of last year, PFIC new patient starts and international uptake were drivers of the step up in growth. Speaker 200:03:25We believe the strong demand we are seeing for Le Marley and Allergial Syndrome and PFIC will continue. Beyond Le Marley, we also saw healthy growth in our bile acid medicine. We think we are starting to bend the curve here with total 2024 net product sales of of $123,000,000 I'm also happy to say that last week, the FDA approved Citexley, which is our new brand name for quinadial for CTX in adults. With this approval comes seven years of work on exclusivity and the opportunity to begin promotional efforts with our current field team to reach patients in this underdiagnosed condition. Ultimately, the robust growth dynamics across all of our medicines positions us well for 2025, where we expect to add close to $100,000,000 to our top line with anticipated net product sales between $420,000,000 and $435,000,000 for the year. Speaker 200:04:192024 was also a significant year for our pipeline. We expanded Lip Marley's label with its approval for PFIC in both U. S. And Europe. We initiated the Phase III EXPAND study of Lip Marley and broader settings of cholestatic keratitis, a significant growth opportunity for the brand. Speaker 200:04:37And beyond Lismarley, we achieved positive interim results for valsidat in both VISTA's PSC and Vantage PBC studies, resulting in breakthrough designation in PBC. And finally, we have expanded our pipeline with the addition of MRM three thousand three hundred and seventy nine for Fragile X syndrome. This is another high unmet need orphan setting that aligns well with the capabilities we have built in rare genetic neurology for the launch of Cetexy. Pulling all this together, we are set up for an exciting 2025 and beyond with continued strong execution in both our commercial business and pipeline of potentially high impact medicines. And with that, I'll turn it over to Joanne to give a brief update on the pipeline. Speaker 200:05:16Joanne? Speaker 300:05:17Thanks, Chris. Twenty twenty four was a highly productive year for our clinical program. I'm excited to continue this momentum into 2025. Starting with our three potentially registrational studies of our advent group with Molly's and Postman, I'm pleased to say that the progress we made in 2024 builds further confidence in the impact of this mechanism on cholestatic filerase across multiple settings including allergy, PFIC, biliary atresia, PSC and PBC. We have now seen clinical evidence for the potential of iVent inhibition and announced the impact on the immune system. Speaker 300:05:52Starting with the elixir bad at TSC, recall that the VISTA study is heavily enrolling with a single active dose of twenty milligram BID for this placebo based on the blind interim analysis we conducted in June of last year. Following the positive interim analysis where we passed both the efficacy and safety threshold, we've had great engagement with investigators and patient meetings. And we are pleased with the continued progress of this study. We are on track to complete enrollment in the second half of this year and given that this is a 2018 study, expect top line results in 2026. There are no approved treatments for PSC and look forward to another opportunity to work with global health authorities to bring a high impact medicine to a further serve patient community. Speaker 300:06:38Turning to PBC, enrollment in the VANTAGE study results are progressing well and remain on track to complete full enrollment in 2020. Given the results of our interim analysis, what we showed is statistically significant rapid and sustained improvement in provided for this particular tumor. We've seen a positive response from the investigator and patient community. The majority of PBC patients are able to maintain a good biochemical response with first line UDC treatment, but do not have adequate options to address their symptoms. The strength of the Vantage interim results in both first line and second line patients, physicians fill the capacity to potentially impact the treatment option for a large portion of patients with C2. Speaker 300:07:19Breakthrough therapy designation received in FDA last year acknowledges the importance of filipipat as a potential. We're also excited about Phase three expanded study of Lymphadenylinib. This is an excellent opportunity to expand the label for Lymphadenylinib to include additional aesthetics of prostatic arthritis, where there's a clear need for an approved effective treatment. We are encouraged by the enthusiasm for sequencing. The study is ramping up well and we are on track to complete enrollment Operator00:07:47in 2020. Speaker 300:07:49Shifting to MRI three thousand three hundred and seventy nine, our new PDE14 immunocompatibility. We are preparing to initiate a Phase II study this year following discussions with the FDA. As a reminder, this mechanism has demonstrated proof of concept in Fasoix. And given the high expression of PDE4D8, the importance of this pathway in learning and memory, we believe MRM three thousand three hundred and seventy nine's great potential profile is potentially differentiating. In summary, we're very happy with the continued momentum of all of our and the active engagement we fostered with investigators and patients. Speaker 300:08:27We look forward to providing further updates on our progress through the year. I'll now turn it over to Eric. Eric? Speaker 400:08:34Thank you, Joanne. I'm pleased to say that we are in an excellent financial position supported by our strong performance in 2024, which I will now briefly summarize. 2024 was another year of continued strong growth in net product sales of our three commercial medicines. Total net product sales in the fourth quarter twenty twenty four was $99,400,000 compared to $69,500,000 the year before, representing a 43% year over year increase. For the full year 2024, total net product sales were $336,400,000 compared to $178,900,000 in 2023. Speaker 400:09:18For Limarley, total net product sales in the fourth quarter twenty twenty four was $64,100,000 Total Limarley net product sales for 2024 was $213,300,000 representing a 50% increase compared to 2023. Turning to our bile acid medicines, total net product sales in the fourth quarter twenty twenty four was $35,000,000 dollars representing an approximately 25% growth over the fourth quarter of twenty twenty three. The first full quarter the portfolio was under unrealized. Total net product sales for the portfolio for all of 2024 was $123,100,000 Total operating expense for 2024 was $424,500,000 which includes R and D expense of $140,600,000 SG and A expense of $202,200,000 and cost of sales of $81,600,000 Expenses for the year included non cash stock based compensation expense of $48,400,000 and intangible amortization and other noncash items of $31,000,000 This intangible amortization and other noncash items expense is largely reflected in our cost of goods sold. In the fourth quarter and full year, R and D expense also reflected the $7,500,000 upfront payments we paid to Anthoran for the 3379 license. Speaker 400:10:58When adjusting for the non cash items I'm happy to say the business was cash flow positive in 2024 and we expect this to continue this year. We ended 2024 with cash, cash equivalents and investments of $293,000,000 an increase of approximately $7,000,000 from the start of the year. Looking ahead we expect net product sales of $420,000,000 to $435,000,000 in 2025 and we are guiding toward positive cash flow again this year. We are well funded and we have the resources to execute on our plans and progress toward our multiple upcoming pipeline catalysts. Now I'll turn the call back over to Chris for final comments. Speaker 200:11:46Thanks, Eric. Twenty twenty five is set to be another big year for Miriam. With industry leading commercial execution and advancing pipeline and a disciplined operating model, we have built a leading rare disease company, one that is positioned for sustained growth in the years to come. I'm proud of what we have accomplished and excited for the opportunities ahead as we continue to deliver life changing medicines for patients and their families. And with that, operator, please open the call for questions. Operator00:12:16Thank First question comes from Gavin Clark Ratna with Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:12:40Hey guys, congrats on the great progress. So I just had one more strategic question. I know that you aren't able to call for redemption of convertible notes until next year, but just bigger picture, as your stock has traded well above the conversion price, the back of really strong earnings performance, pipeline advancement, does this all change how you think about BD and capital allocation in general? Thank you. Speaker 200:13:04Thanks, Gavin, for the question. I'll make a first comment there and ask Eric to add anything else on the balance sheet. And the thing that I'd point out, kind of the dynamic behind what you're pointing out there is that we've been able to navigate Merum to a really unique position, particular in this market backdrop for rare disease where we can take advantage of our financial position and performance to acquire and basically roll up some of these rare disease products that we see as great value creation opportunities for the company. And that's Eric to speak more specifically to the financing plans. Speaker 400:13:42Yeah, thank you. The Convert Ventures in four years, so that doesn't really factor into our plans meaningfully. I think our financial and financing flexibility as we continue to progress the business is significant and gives us a lot of flexibility to consider, the alternatives that we might find attractive. Speaker 200:14:14Thanks for the question, Gavin. Operator00:14:16We now turn to Jessica Fye with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:14:22Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I was hoping you could talk about the underlying assumptions like market penetration or share, potential competition, etcetera, that are behind those $1,000,000,000 revenue potential for Miriam three thousand three hundred and seventy nine in Fragile X. And I guess while we're talking about that asset, are there any other indications with the mechanistic rationale that could make sense to pursue? Speaker 600:14:50Thank you. Speaker 200:14:52Thanks for the question, Jessica. I'll speak to the market sizing and then have Joanne kind of comment about applicability of the mechanism in other settings. And quite simply, the way to think about the market potential, when we look at just male patients with Fragile X, it's a 50,000 patient market. So a lot of different ways that you can look at the assumptions to see that the total addressable market is a billion or more quite easily. So really when we talk about that number, we're looking at The U. Speaker 200:15:25S. Opportunity, do see substantial upside beyond that number even. It's pretty simple kind of watermark to put there. And Joanne, would you comment about? Yes. Speaker 300:15:38Yes. So, actually I think, Jessica, you sort of, kind of rightly kind of asked the question in terms of what are the opportunities. We know that PD four d is highly expressed in the brain in areas where learning and memory are very important. And so there are a wide number of conditions that this could be you could envision this could be used for. The way we're really approaching this is to kind of use Fragile X as our kind of first entry point, conducting a proof of concept there, identifying a dose. Speaker 300:16:07And then, once we have that, then I think it opens up the possibility for entering into some other indications associated with intellectual disability. So, certainly, a lot of potential there that we're excited to access. Operator00:16:25We now turn to the manager for Rouha with Leerink Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:16:33Hey guys. You have Ryan on for Mani. Thanks for taking our question. Speaker 800:16:37So I'm curious, when you look at Speaker 700:16:39the Alagille market, where do you think we are in terms of penetration into the prevalent population? And kind of going forward, is U. S. Growth really going to be driven more by new diagnoses or kind of greater penetration into those that are not on IBAT yet? Speaker 200:16:57Thanks, Ryan, for the question. In terms of overall penetration for the eligible treatment population in The U. S, so Algeville syndrome patients with pruritus that are pre transplant, we're probably in the range of forty percent or so penetrated. So just from that statistic alone, we see a lot of growth potential in the prevalent patients. And thinking about what's driving that growth over time, there's actually several tailwinds on that. Speaker 200:17:32One is just further penetration into the prevalent population. There's continued new diagnoses that come along the way, so new patients entering, usually infants, so they're generally lower dose patients, but there are new patients that are diagnosed and start each year. And then behind that, this is weight based dosing, so you do see some of those dose adjustments over time. So all of that kind of combines for The U. S. Speaker 200:18:00To show that there's a long runway of continued growth for Alagille syndrome in The U. S. Operator00:18:11We now turn to David Lebovitz with Citi. Speaker 700:18:20In terms of the recent approval for CTX, congratulations on that. Could you, I guess, elaborate on how you expect this could affect the sales trajectory from this point going forward given there's already use in that particular population? Speaker 200:18:41Thanks for the question, David. Yes, so you're kind of understanding in your question the dynamic here where we already have, we think that there's substantial number of the diagnosed CTX patients had been on, quinol. The plan is to have those convert over to Citexley in the coming months. And the goal here is to impact diagnosis and getting more patients diagnosed and then to treatment. So we do expect it to be a gradual kind of bending of the curve of bringing new patients to diagnosis earlier and preventing the accumulation and buildup of some of these irreversible effects of the disease. Speaker 800:19:29Got it. Speaker 900:19:32Thanks for the question. Operator00:19:34Our next question comes from Mike Olds with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:19:41Hi. This is Rohit on for Mike. Thanks for taking our questions. Can you just talk about the patient mix between Aligyle syndrome and PFICs for LIV Marley in fourth quarter of twenty twenty four? And how you expect this to play out in 2025? Speaker 200:19:55And then additionally, how many of the patients on the PFIC extended access program are now on paid drug? Thank you. Thanks for the question, Ravi. Touch on the last one there first. During the year last year, we were able to convert all of The U. Speaker 200:20:14S. Expanded access patients over to commercial products. So that was complete, really most of it into the third quarter last year. And in terms of the patient mix, we don't post specific numbers. But throughout kind of where we stand today, most Libmarly patients by far are Aligill Syndrome patients. Speaker 200:20:37So that's the vast majority of the contribution today. In terms of new patient starts, since really Q3 of next year, we have seen with the steady, allogene patient starts, we have seen a nice step up in PFIC patient starts. So they are contributing quite substantially to new patient starts going forward. And you see that reflected in the top line performance. Operator00:21:09We now turn to Ryan Deschner with Raymond James. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:21:18Hi there. Congrats on the quarter. My question is how much commercial team expansion would you anticipate doing for expanded pruritus in ultrarachochostatic patients pending result of the Phase three EXPAND study? And then I have a quick follow-up. Speaker 300:21:35All right. Speaker 200:21:36Thanks for the question, Ryan. Looking at planning for Lip Marley's potential label expansion with EXPAND, we anticipate that's largely the same prescribing universe as the Alachol Syndrome and PFIC prescribers. So it wouldn't be an expansion of the field team that's already in place. So, a lot that we can leverage there commercially. And you said you had a follow-up question? Speaker 800:22:03Yes. Thanks. Speaker 1000:22:04Did you feel at this point Speaker 200:22:06or did you have a feel at Speaker 800:22:07this point for how many specifically how much of an impact the growing average patient weights are impacting sales growth in Alagille? How big actually is this growth component now compared to some of the other tailwinds here? And how do you expect it to grow moving forward? Speaker 1000:22:27I mean, the way that Speaker 200:22:28I would describe it is we look at and kind of think about this as the average dispense. And it changes quite modestly over time, in part because you have we continue to have new diagnoses come in. So there are new infant patient starts along the way. That kind of tempers the overall effect. But we have seen it kind of gradually increase over the years. Speaker 800:22:57Got it. Thank you very much. Speaker 900:23:00Thanks for the question. Operator00:23:02We now turn to Brian Skorney with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:23:09Hi. This is Luke on for Brian. Thanks for taking the question. We Speaker 1100:23:12were hoping you could just talk a little bit about how the VANTAGE study takes into account prior OCA use and enrollment. And do you think patients recently discontinuing OCA could see an impact on pruritus measurements as compared to a patient not discontinuing? Speaker 200:23:33Thanks for the question. I'll let Joanne jump into that one. Speaker 300:23:36Yes. Thanks for the question. So when the study was started, we actually thought there would be a bigger contribution in terms of patients who are in OCA. It turns out it's really not an issue at this point. And so that's our enrollment has actually picked up quite nicely since the interim results came out. Speaker 300:23:59We're not really seeing that there's an issue in terms of patients, a lot of patients coming forward with with OCA, who are candidates for the study otherwise. And I think that just reflects overall kind of usage patterns with OCA in general, not really that much of a contender in this space. Speaker 200:24:16Kind of in addition to that, you recall that for PEDC, the VANTAGE study, about two thirds of those patients are first line. So that would be before OCA would be kind of would have been used or before the new PPARs are used. Thank you. Speaker 900:24:39Thanks for the question. Operator00:24:42Our next question comes from Jonathan Wallerin with Citizens JMP. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:24:50Hey, thanks for taking the question. Just wondering, piggyback on a prior expand question, Speaker 1200:24:56what do you envision the label looks like if you have success in that Phase III trial? And then how do you wrap your heads around that one thousand patient U. S. And EU prevalence, given it's a collection of a bunch of small indications? Speaker 200:25:11Jonathan, thanks for the question. The label, the indication statement is something to nail down, frankly. It is, as you point out, it's a definition somewhat of exclusion. It's a basket of several different causes of cholestasis excluding PSC, PVC, ICP, alicyl, syndrome, PFIC. So it's all of the many less common causes of cholestasis. Speaker 200:25:38So exact wording will need to be ironed out as we get to that label expansion. In terms of how we think about the patient number though, we think it's quite simply the way to think about it, it's a PFIC sized opportunity or larger. And as we looked at kind of real compassionate use requests and interest from physicians, kind of counting up some of those patient numbers and where that demand was coming from. That's how we landed at that 1,000 patient estimate for The U. S. Speaker 200:26:11And Europe. So I feel it's a very tangible market estimate as opposed to maybe an epidemiology study, for example. So I feel confident that's a quite sizable opportunity for Lib Marley. Speaker 1200:26:29That's it. All right. That's helpful. Thanks, Chris. Speaker 900:26:32Thanks for the question. Operator00:26:35And our final question comes from Ed Arce with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:26:43Good afternoon, everyone. This is the pharmacy of asking a few questions for Ed. Thank you so much for taking the questions. So first for the RELOCIBAT VISTA study in PSC, good to hear that it's a target to compare to Roman second half this year. Just wonder how many months or when should we expect to see top line data after complete enrollment is announced, if you can outline some details on the process? Speaker 200:27:15Yes. Thanks for the question, Thomas. I mean, the simple way to think of it is it's an approximately six month endpoint and time to close and clean the database. So, you know, kind of project, some amount of time like that after enrollment completion. We do plan to announce enrollment completion when we get there. Speaker 1000:27:34Got it. And then perhaps one question on the Phase three on the EXPENSE study with Molly as well. Just wonder if you can share some patient experience that you have received to date and which type of rare choristatic conditions are most common so far? Speaker 200:27:55Yes. Thanks for the question. I'll maybe ask Joanne to speak to some of the data at ASLD last year on that point. Speaker 300:28:02Yes. We do actually have a number of patients that were treated to compassionate use for biliary atresia. And those results are quite strikingly positive for tubular pruritus. And of note, this is a different patient group than was studied in the earlier EMARK study. So these are biliary atresia patients that have likely had a Kasai when they were quite young. Speaker 300:28:24And then they continue on. We do know that over time, patients will progress in terms of their disease and often will paraleter transplant. And as part of that progression of disease, that will develop pruritus. And so we do have an abstract with handful of cases where there's been quite good treatment outcomes using IVET inhibition. So that's partly what gives us confidence in conducting a study like the EXPAND study that ultimately there is a need and also that we do have a product that can really address that. Speaker 1000:28:56Understood. Perhaps one follow-up on that. Should we expect to see some kind of interim data from this study perhaps in medical conferences, posters? Speaker 300:29:11Actually, we do not plan to do an interim analysis for the study. Our plan is to complete enrollment in 2026 next year. So, if we did an interim, it would actually slow things down. So, we do think we're on track to complete enrollment in 2026 and look forward to sharing the results when they're available for the full study. Speaker 1000:29:33That's it. Thank you again for taking my questions. Speaker 300:29:37Thank you, Thomas. Operator00:29:40This concludes our Q and A. I'll now hand back to Chris Pietz, CEO, for any final remarks. Speaker 200:29:48Great. Thank you all for joining us today. Have a great afternoon. Thanks. Operator00:29:54Ladies and gentlemen, today's call has now concluded. We'd like to thank you for your participation. 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There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello and welcome to Neurom Pharmaceuticals Reports Fourth Quarter and Year End '20 '20 '4 Financial Results and provides business update. My name is Elliot and I'll be your coordinator today. I would now like to hand over to Andrew McKibben, Senior Vice President of Strategic Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:26Thanks, Elliot, and good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to welcome you to Miriam Pharmaceuticals' fourth quarter twenty twenty four conference call. I'm joined today by our CEO, Chris Pietz our Chief Medical Officer, Joanne Kwan and Eric Bjerkle, our Chief Financial Officer. Peter Radovich, our President and Chief Operating Officer, could not be with us today as he's had an international launch event in Europe this week. Earlier today, MiRim issued a news release announcing the company's results for the fourth quarter and full year 2024. Speaker 100:00:54Copies of this news release and SEC filings can be found in the Investors section of our website. Before we start, I'd like to remind you that during the course of this conference call, we will be making certain forward looking statements based on management's current expectations, including statements regarding Merum's programs and market opportunities for its approved medicines and product candidates. These statements represent our judgment as of today and inherently involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual actual results to differ materially from the results discussed. We are under no duty to update these statements. Please refer to the risk factors in our latest Form 10 K and subsequent SEC filings for more information. Speaker 100:01:29With that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Chris. Chris? Speaker 200:01:32Thanks, Andrew. And good afternoon, everyone. I'm excited to start today's call with a recap of Merum's achievements over the last year and share an update on our strategic goals for 2025. In the short time since our founding, through our focus on bringing important medicines to patients, we have created a strong business in ultra rare disease that is cash flow positive with an attractive pipeline and broader patient populations. We are still early in our journey and we firmly believe the best is yet to come. Speaker 200:02:01Our strategic priorities over the next two years are to one, further the global growth of our commercial medicines, highlighted by Lip Marley's continued Alagille syndrome expansion, early PFIC success and the recent approval of Citexley for cerebrotendinous xanthomatosis or CTX in The U. S. Two, advance our high impact pipeline, driving velixibat to potentially pivotal data in adult full astasis next year, initiating our Fragile X program for MRN337979 and completing enrollment of the EXPAND study for Lip Marley and cholestatic pruritus. Three, selectively pursue product acquisition and license opportunities and rare disease with potential for significant patient and patient impact and value creation, just as we have since the launch of Merab and four, accomplish all of the above with continued scientific and financial discipline. 2024 was a big year for delivering on strategic goals. Speaker 200:03:00Total net product sales were $336,400,000 exceeding the upper end of our revised guidance range. Lebmarly finished the year with total net product sales of $213,000,000 including approximately $155,000,000 from our U. S. Business and $59,000,000 internationally. In the second half of last year, PFIC new patient starts and international uptake were drivers of the step up in growth. Speaker 200:03:25We believe the strong demand we are seeing for Le Marley and Allergial Syndrome and PFIC will continue. Beyond Le Marley, we also saw healthy growth in our bile acid medicine. We think we are starting to bend the curve here with total 2024 net product sales of of $123,000,000 I'm also happy to say that last week, the FDA approved Citexley, which is our new brand name for quinadial for CTX in adults. With this approval comes seven years of work on exclusivity and the opportunity to begin promotional efforts with our current field team to reach patients in this underdiagnosed condition. Ultimately, the robust growth dynamics across all of our medicines positions us well for 2025, where we expect to add close to $100,000,000 to our top line with anticipated net product sales between $420,000,000 and $435,000,000 for the year. Speaker 200:04:192024 was also a significant year for our pipeline. We expanded Lip Marley's label with its approval for PFIC in both U. S. And Europe. We initiated the Phase III EXPAND study of Lip Marley and broader settings of cholestatic keratitis, a significant growth opportunity for the brand. Speaker 200:04:37And beyond Lismarley, we achieved positive interim results for valsidat in both VISTA's PSC and Vantage PBC studies, resulting in breakthrough designation in PBC. And finally, we have expanded our pipeline with the addition of MRM three thousand three hundred and seventy nine for Fragile X syndrome. This is another high unmet need orphan setting that aligns well with the capabilities we have built in rare genetic neurology for the launch of Cetexy. Pulling all this together, we are set up for an exciting 2025 and beyond with continued strong execution in both our commercial business and pipeline of potentially high impact medicines. And with that, I'll turn it over to Joanne to give a brief update on the pipeline. Speaker 200:05:16Joanne? Speaker 300:05:17Thanks, Chris. Twenty twenty four was a highly productive year for our clinical program. I'm excited to continue this momentum into 2025. Starting with our three potentially registrational studies of our advent group with Molly's and Postman, I'm pleased to say that the progress we made in 2024 builds further confidence in the impact of this mechanism on cholestatic filerase across multiple settings including allergy, PFIC, biliary atresia, PSC and PBC. We have now seen clinical evidence for the potential of iVent inhibition and announced the impact on the immune system. Speaker 300:05:52Starting with the elixir bad at TSC, recall that the VISTA study is heavily enrolling with a single active dose of twenty milligram BID for this placebo based on the blind interim analysis we conducted in June of last year. Following the positive interim analysis where we passed both the efficacy and safety threshold, we've had great engagement with investigators and patient meetings. And we are pleased with the continued progress of this study. We are on track to complete enrollment in the second half of this year and given that this is a 2018 study, expect top line results in 2026. There are no approved treatments for PSC and look forward to another opportunity to work with global health authorities to bring a high impact medicine to a further serve patient community. Speaker 300:06:38Turning to PBC, enrollment in the VANTAGE study results are progressing well and remain on track to complete full enrollment in 2020. Given the results of our interim analysis, what we showed is statistically significant rapid and sustained improvement in provided for this particular tumor. We've seen a positive response from the investigator and patient community. The majority of PBC patients are able to maintain a good biochemical response with first line UDC treatment, but do not have adequate options to address their symptoms. The strength of the Vantage interim results in both first line and second line patients, physicians fill the capacity to potentially impact the treatment option for a large portion of patients with C2. Speaker 300:07:19Breakthrough therapy designation received in FDA last year acknowledges the importance of filipipat as a potential. We're also excited about Phase three expanded study of Lymphadenylinib. This is an excellent opportunity to expand the label for Lymphadenylinib to include additional aesthetics of prostatic arthritis, where there's a clear need for an approved effective treatment. We are encouraged by the enthusiasm for sequencing. The study is ramping up well and we are on track to complete enrollment Operator00:07:47in 2020. Speaker 300:07:49Shifting to MRI three thousand three hundred and seventy nine, our new PDE14 immunocompatibility. We are preparing to initiate a Phase II study this year following discussions with the FDA. As a reminder, this mechanism has demonstrated proof of concept in Fasoix. And given the high expression of PDE4D8, the importance of this pathway in learning and memory, we believe MRM three thousand three hundred and seventy nine's great potential profile is potentially differentiating. In summary, we're very happy with the continued momentum of all of our and the active engagement we fostered with investigators and patients. Speaker 300:08:27We look forward to providing further updates on our progress through the year. I'll now turn it over to Eric. Eric? Speaker 400:08:34Thank you, Joanne. I'm pleased to say that we are in an excellent financial position supported by our strong performance in 2024, which I will now briefly summarize. 2024 was another year of continued strong growth in net product sales of our three commercial medicines. Total net product sales in the fourth quarter twenty twenty four was $99,400,000 compared to $69,500,000 the year before, representing a 43% year over year increase. For the full year 2024, total net product sales were $336,400,000 compared to $178,900,000 in 2023. Speaker 400:09:18For Limarley, total net product sales in the fourth quarter twenty twenty four was $64,100,000 Total Limarley net product sales for 2024 was $213,300,000 representing a 50% increase compared to 2023. Turning to our bile acid medicines, total net product sales in the fourth quarter twenty twenty four was $35,000,000 dollars representing an approximately 25% growth over the fourth quarter of twenty twenty three. The first full quarter the portfolio was under unrealized. Total net product sales for the portfolio for all of 2024 was $123,100,000 Total operating expense for 2024 was $424,500,000 which includes R and D expense of $140,600,000 SG and A expense of $202,200,000 and cost of sales of $81,600,000 Expenses for the year included non cash stock based compensation expense of $48,400,000 and intangible amortization and other noncash items of $31,000,000 This intangible amortization and other noncash items expense is largely reflected in our cost of goods sold. In the fourth quarter and full year, R and D expense also reflected the $7,500,000 upfront payments we paid to Anthoran for the 3379 license. Speaker 400:10:58When adjusting for the non cash items I'm happy to say the business was cash flow positive in 2024 and we expect this to continue this year. We ended 2024 with cash, cash equivalents and investments of $293,000,000 an increase of approximately $7,000,000 from the start of the year. Looking ahead we expect net product sales of $420,000,000 to $435,000,000 in 2025 and we are guiding toward positive cash flow again this year. We are well funded and we have the resources to execute on our plans and progress toward our multiple upcoming pipeline catalysts. Now I'll turn the call back over to Chris for final comments. Speaker 200:11:46Thanks, Eric. Twenty twenty five is set to be another big year for Miriam. With industry leading commercial execution and advancing pipeline and a disciplined operating model, we have built a leading rare disease company, one that is positioned for sustained growth in the years to come. I'm proud of what we have accomplished and excited for the opportunities ahead as we continue to deliver life changing medicines for patients and their families. And with that, operator, please open the call for questions. Operator00:12:16Thank First question comes from Gavin Clark Ratna with Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:12:40Hey guys, congrats on the great progress. So I just had one more strategic question. I know that you aren't able to call for redemption of convertible notes until next year, but just bigger picture, as your stock has traded well above the conversion price, the back of really strong earnings performance, pipeline advancement, does this all change how you think about BD and capital allocation in general? Thank you. Speaker 200:13:04Thanks, Gavin, for the question. I'll make a first comment there and ask Eric to add anything else on the balance sheet. And the thing that I'd point out, kind of the dynamic behind what you're pointing out there is that we've been able to navigate Merum to a really unique position, particular in this market backdrop for rare disease where we can take advantage of our financial position and performance to acquire and basically roll up some of these rare disease products that we see as great value creation opportunities for the company. And that's Eric to speak more specifically to the financing plans. Speaker 400:13:42Yeah, thank you. The Convert Ventures in four years, so that doesn't really factor into our plans meaningfully. I think our financial and financing flexibility as we continue to progress the business is significant and gives us a lot of flexibility to consider, the alternatives that we might find attractive. Speaker 200:14:14Thanks for the question, Gavin. Operator00:14:16We now turn to Jessica Fye with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:14:22Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I was hoping you could talk about the underlying assumptions like market penetration or share, potential competition, etcetera, that are behind those $1,000,000,000 revenue potential for Miriam three thousand three hundred and seventy nine in Fragile X. And I guess while we're talking about that asset, are there any other indications with the mechanistic rationale that could make sense to pursue? Speaker 600:14:50Thank you. Speaker 200:14:52Thanks for the question, Jessica. I'll speak to the market sizing and then have Joanne kind of comment about applicability of the mechanism in other settings. And quite simply, the way to think about the market potential, when we look at just male patients with Fragile X, it's a 50,000 patient market. So a lot of different ways that you can look at the assumptions to see that the total addressable market is a billion or more quite easily. So really when we talk about that number, we're looking at The U. Speaker 200:15:25S. Opportunity, do see substantial upside beyond that number even. It's pretty simple kind of watermark to put there. And Joanne, would you comment about? Yes. Speaker 300:15:38Yes. So, actually I think, Jessica, you sort of, kind of rightly kind of asked the question in terms of what are the opportunities. We know that PD four d is highly expressed in the brain in areas where learning and memory are very important. And so there are a wide number of conditions that this could be you could envision this could be used for. The way we're really approaching this is to kind of use Fragile X as our kind of first entry point, conducting a proof of concept there, identifying a dose. Speaker 300:16:07And then, once we have that, then I think it opens up the possibility for entering into some other indications associated with intellectual disability. So, certainly, a lot of potential there that we're excited to access. Operator00:16:25We now turn to the manager for Rouha with Leerink Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:16:33Hey guys. You have Ryan on for Mani. Thanks for taking our question. Speaker 800:16:37So I'm curious, when you look at Speaker 700:16:39the Alagille market, where do you think we are in terms of penetration into the prevalent population? And kind of going forward, is U. S. Growth really going to be driven more by new diagnoses or kind of greater penetration into those that are not on IBAT yet? Speaker 200:16:57Thanks, Ryan, for the question. In terms of overall penetration for the eligible treatment population in The U. S, so Algeville syndrome patients with pruritus that are pre transplant, we're probably in the range of forty percent or so penetrated. So just from that statistic alone, we see a lot of growth potential in the prevalent patients. And thinking about what's driving that growth over time, there's actually several tailwinds on that. Speaker 200:17:32One is just further penetration into the prevalent population. There's continued new diagnoses that come along the way, so new patients entering, usually infants, so they're generally lower dose patients, but there are new patients that are diagnosed and start each year. And then behind that, this is weight based dosing, so you do see some of those dose adjustments over time. So all of that kind of combines for The U. S. Speaker 200:18:00To show that there's a long runway of continued growth for Alagille syndrome in The U. S. Operator00:18:11We now turn to David Lebovitz with Citi. Speaker 700:18:20In terms of the recent approval for CTX, congratulations on that. Could you, I guess, elaborate on how you expect this could affect the sales trajectory from this point going forward given there's already use in that particular population? Speaker 200:18:41Thanks for the question, David. Yes, so you're kind of understanding in your question the dynamic here where we already have, we think that there's substantial number of the diagnosed CTX patients had been on, quinol. The plan is to have those convert over to Citexley in the coming months. And the goal here is to impact diagnosis and getting more patients diagnosed and then to treatment. So we do expect it to be a gradual kind of bending of the curve of bringing new patients to diagnosis earlier and preventing the accumulation and buildup of some of these irreversible effects of the disease. Speaker 800:19:29Got it. Speaker 900:19:32Thanks for the question. Operator00:19:34Our next question comes from Mike Olds with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:19:41Hi. This is Rohit on for Mike. Thanks for taking our questions. Can you just talk about the patient mix between Aligyle syndrome and PFICs for LIV Marley in fourth quarter of twenty twenty four? And how you expect this to play out in 2025? Speaker 200:19:55And then additionally, how many of the patients on the PFIC extended access program are now on paid drug? Thank you. Thanks for the question, Ravi. Touch on the last one there first. During the year last year, we were able to convert all of The U. Speaker 200:20:14S. Expanded access patients over to commercial products. So that was complete, really most of it into the third quarter last year. And in terms of the patient mix, we don't post specific numbers. But throughout kind of where we stand today, most Libmarly patients by far are Aligill Syndrome patients. Speaker 200:20:37So that's the vast majority of the contribution today. In terms of new patient starts, since really Q3 of next year, we have seen with the steady, allogene patient starts, we have seen a nice step up in PFIC patient starts. So they are contributing quite substantially to new patient starts going forward. And you see that reflected in the top line performance. Operator00:21:09We now turn to Ryan Deschner with Raymond James. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:21:18Hi there. Congrats on the quarter. My question is how much commercial team expansion would you anticipate doing for expanded pruritus in ultrarachochostatic patients pending result of the Phase three EXPAND study? And then I have a quick follow-up. Speaker 300:21:35All right. Speaker 200:21:36Thanks for the question, Ryan. Looking at planning for Lip Marley's potential label expansion with EXPAND, we anticipate that's largely the same prescribing universe as the Alachol Syndrome and PFIC prescribers. So it wouldn't be an expansion of the field team that's already in place. So, a lot that we can leverage there commercially. And you said you had a follow-up question? Speaker 800:22:03Yes. Thanks. Speaker 1000:22:04Did you feel at this point Speaker 200:22:06or did you have a feel at Speaker 800:22:07this point for how many specifically how much of an impact the growing average patient weights are impacting sales growth in Alagille? How big actually is this growth component now compared to some of the other tailwinds here? And how do you expect it to grow moving forward? Speaker 1000:22:27I mean, the way that Speaker 200:22:28I would describe it is we look at and kind of think about this as the average dispense. And it changes quite modestly over time, in part because you have we continue to have new diagnoses come in. So there are new infant patient starts along the way. That kind of tempers the overall effect. But we have seen it kind of gradually increase over the years. Speaker 800:22:57Got it. Thank you very much. Speaker 900:23:00Thanks for the question. Operator00:23:02We now turn to Brian Skorney with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:23:09Hi. This is Luke on for Brian. Thanks for taking the question. We Speaker 1100:23:12were hoping you could just talk a little bit about how the VANTAGE study takes into account prior OCA use and enrollment. And do you think patients recently discontinuing OCA could see an impact on pruritus measurements as compared to a patient not discontinuing? Speaker 200:23:33Thanks for the question. I'll let Joanne jump into that one. Speaker 300:23:36Yes. Thanks for the question. So when the study was started, we actually thought there would be a bigger contribution in terms of patients who are in OCA. It turns out it's really not an issue at this point. And so that's our enrollment has actually picked up quite nicely since the interim results came out. Speaker 300:23:59We're not really seeing that there's an issue in terms of patients, a lot of patients coming forward with with OCA, who are candidates for the study otherwise. And I think that just reflects overall kind of usage patterns with OCA in general, not really that much of a contender in this space. Speaker 200:24:16Kind of in addition to that, you recall that for PEDC, the VANTAGE study, about two thirds of those patients are first line. So that would be before OCA would be kind of would have been used or before the new PPARs are used. Thank you. Speaker 900:24:39Thanks for the question. Operator00:24:42Our next question comes from Jonathan Wallerin with Citizens JMP. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:24:50Hey, thanks for taking the question. Just wondering, piggyback on a prior expand question, Speaker 1200:24:56what do you envision the label looks like if you have success in that Phase III trial? And then how do you wrap your heads around that one thousand patient U. S. And EU prevalence, given it's a collection of a bunch of small indications? Speaker 200:25:11Jonathan, thanks for the question. The label, the indication statement is something to nail down, frankly. It is, as you point out, it's a definition somewhat of exclusion. It's a basket of several different causes of cholestasis excluding PSC, PVC, ICP, alicyl, syndrome, PFIC. So it's all of the many less common causes of cholestasis. Speaker 200:25:38So exact wording will need to be ironed out as we get to that label expansion. In terms of how we think about the patient number though, we think it's quite simply the way to think about it, it's a PFIC sized opportunity or larger. And as we looked at kind of real compassionate use requests and interest from physicians, kind of counting up some of those patient numbers and where that demand was coming from. That's how we landed at that 1,000 patient estimate for The U. S. Speaker 200:26:11And Europe. So I feel it's a very tangible market estimate as opposed to maybe an epidemiology study, for example. So I feel confident that's a quite sizable opportunity for Lib Marley. Speaker 1200:26:29That's it. All right. That's helpful. Thanks, Chris. Speaker 900:26:32Thanks for the question. Operator00:26:35And our final question comes from Ed Arce with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:26:43Good afternoon, everyone. This is the pharmacy of asking a few questions for Ed. Thank you so much for taking the questions. So first for the RELOCIBAT VISTA study in PSC, good to hear that it's a target to compare to Roman second half this year. Just wonder how many months or when should we expect to see top line data after complete enrollment is announced, if you can outline some details on the process? Speaker 200:27:15Yes. Thanks for the question, Thomas. I mean, the simple way to think of it is it's an approximately six month endpoint and time to close and clean the database. So, you know, kind of project, some amount of time like that after enrollment completion. We do plan to announce enrollment completion when we get there. Speaker 1000:27:34Got it. And then perhaps one question on the Phase three on the EXPENSE study with Molly as well. Just wonder if you can share some patient experience that you have received to date and which type of rare choristatic conditions are most common so far? Speaker 200:27:55Yes. Thanks for the question. I'll maybe ask Joanne to speak to some of the data at ASLD last year on that point. Speaker 300:28:02Yes. We do actually have a number of patients that were treated to compassionate use for biliary atresia. And those results are quite strikingly positive for tubular pruritus. And of note, this is a different patient group than was studied in the earlier EMARK study. So these are biliary atresia patients that have likely had a Kasai when they were quite young. Speaker 300:28:24And then they continue on. We do know that over time, patients will progress in terms of their disease and often will paraleter transplant. And as part of that progression of disease, that will develop pruritus. And so we do have an abstract with handful of cases where there's been quite good treatment outcomes using IVET inhibition. So that's partly what gives us confidence in conducting a study like the EXPAND study that ultimately there is a need and also that we do have a product that can really address that. Speaker 1000:28:56Understood. Perhaps one follow-up on that. Should we expect to see some kind of interim data from this study perhaps in medical conferences, posters? Speaker 300:29:11Actually, we do not plan to do an interim analysis for the study. Our plan is to complete enrollment in 2026 next year. So, if we did an interim, it would actually slow things down. So, we do think we're on track to complete enrollment in 2026 and look forward to sharing the results when they're available for the full study. Speaker 1000:29:33That's it. Thank you again for taking my questions. Speaker 300:29:37Thank you, Thomas. Operator00:29:40This concludes our Q and A. I'll now hand back to Chris Pietz, CEO, for any final remarks. Speaker 200:29:48Great. Thank you all for joining us today. Have a great afternoon. Thanks. Operator00:29:54Ladies and gentlemen, today's call has now concluded. We'd like to thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by