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Earnings HistoryForecast Remitly Global EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.33Consensus EPS $0.62Beat/MissMissed by -$0.29One Year Ago EPSN/ARemitly Global Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$360.86 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ARemitly Global Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date2/3/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, February 4, 2025Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsRemitly Global's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by J&J Snack Foods Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 4, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the J&J Snack Foods Fiscal 2025 First Quarter Conference Call. As a reminder, this call may be recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Alberto Aja, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Norberto AjaIR at J & J Snack Foods00:00:15Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining the J and J Snack Foods fiscal 2025 Q1 conference call. Before getting started, let me take a minute to read the Safe Harbor language. This call contains forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements made on this call that do not relate to matters of historical fact should be considered forward looking statements, including statements regarding management's plans, strategies, goals, expectations and objectives as well as our anticipated financial performance. Norberto AjaIR at J & J Snack Foods00:00:50These statements are neither promises or guarantees and involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other important factors that may cause results, performance or achievements to be materially different from any future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by the forward looking statements. Risk factors and other items discussed in our annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended September 28, 2024, and our other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated by forward looking statements made on the call today. Any such forward looking statements represent management's estimates as of the date of the call today, February 4, 2025. While we may elect to update forward looking statements at some point in the future, we disclaim any obligation to do so even if subsequent events cause expectations to change. In addition, we may also reference certain non GAAP measures on the call today, including adjusted EBITDA, adjusted operating income or adjusted earnings per share, all of which are reconciled to the nearest GAAP measure in the company's earnings press release, which can be found in our Investor Relations section of our website. Norberto AjaIR at J & J Snack Foods00:02:01Joining me on the call today is Dan Fashner, our Chief Executive Officer along with Sean Munsell, our Chief Financial Officer. Following management's prepared remarks, we will open the call for a question and answer session. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Fashner. Please go ahead, Dan. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:02:22Thank you, Norberto. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss our fiscal Q1 results. Starting with a quick review of our Q1 results, we delivered solid top line growth of 4.1 percent to $362,600,000 driven by a combination of volume increases and pricing. However, our performance was impacted by a less than favorable sales mix along with the input cost inflation that was not fully covered with price increases. And although we delivered strong earnings improvement in the frozen beverages, foreign exchange headwinds associated with the peso limited the improvement. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:03:08Overall, gross margin declined to 25.9% from 27.2% compared to the prior year. The gross profit decline along with the higher operating expenses ultimately impacted our bottom line for the quarter. The unfavorable mix impact during the quarter primarily reflects 2 items. The first is the loss of some seasonal business within bakery with a declining margin profile that we bid on, but did not retain. The second is attributed to lower churro volumes in foodservice as we lap the benefit from a limited time offer with a quick serve restaurant last year. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:03:52Although we were able to grow volume elsewhere in the portfolio to help compensate for these losses, the mix was less favorable. Our cookie volume is up meaningfully versus the prior year, and we've recently invested in new capacity to augment our capabilities. We also added new churro customers in foodservice and believe this business will continue growing over time. Regarding pricing, while we realized price increases during the quarter, we were not able to fully offset the net impact of the higher input costs. We experienced significant inflation in chocolates, eggs and proteins that was only partly offset by deflation primarily in flour and dairy. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:04:42We have implemented additional pricing action in the 2nd quarter for select categories that will further mitigate input cost inflation. We also had some nice wins across the portfolio that helped to support our results during the quarter. Our frozen beverage business achieved record 1st quarter results on a rebound in theater traffic as the movie lineup recovered from last year. We achieved record results despite an unfavorable year over year weakening of the peso that impacted our frozen beverage performance in Mexico. We also delivered strong results in frozen novelties across the portfolio, led by the growth in Docksters and Dip and Dots. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:05:28Foodservice pretzels recovered in the quarter, mainly from a rebound in the convenience store channel and elsewhere. While we're not satisfied with our results, we view the underlying challenges as temporary. As I mentioned, we have implemented incremental pricing that has taken effect early in the Q2. And as always, we continue to pursue volume growth and mix improvement across the portfolio. Encouragingly, frozen beverages and snacks showed sequential improvement during the quarter, supporting confidence in our recovery trajectory. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:06:09We remain disciplined and focused on the business principles that have driven long term success and shareholder value. To that end, I am pleased to announce that our Board has approved a new $50,000,000 stock repurchase authorization. This decision reflects our confidence in J and J's long term value and our financial flexibility. With a strong balance sheet and ample liquidity, we are well equipped to execute this plan opportunistically, while continuing to invest in organic and inorganic growth opportunities. We remain disciplined and thoughtful in deploying capital, ensuring that any investments we make deliver sustainable value for our shareholders. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:06:57Let me now briefly review highlights from each of our 3 business segments. Starting with Foodservice, this segment continues to grow driven by innovation and strategic partnerships despite some unfavorable changes to the sales mix. We realized 4.5% sales growth across foodservice, led by a 4.8% increase in soft pretzels as convenience store sales rebounded. Frozen Novelties increased an impressive 9.8%, which included 8.4% sales growth in Zippin' Dots, driven by the theater and our new vending channels. Turo sales declined 9.2%, reflecting the lapping of a limited time offer volumes that I referenced earlier. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:07:50Bakery sales growth of 6.6% largely reflects price increases to offset input cost inflation. As for retail, we saw opportunities and challenges that led to a 2.2% increase in sales. Frozen novelty sales increased meaningfully, led primarily by volume gains in Luigi's and Dogsters, which outpaced declines elsewhere in the retail portfolio. The soft pretzel sales decline of 7.4% was partly attributed to an ordering system issue with a large customer that temporarily suppressed volumes. Resolution of this issue in late December positions us for improvement in Q2. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:08:38Frozen beverage sales increased 4%, driven by an impressive 10% volume increase. The boost in volume was attributed to 45% growth in theater channels compared to the prior year, thanks to strong content releases in November December. In addition to volume growth, machine revenue increased by 13%, offsetting a 3.7% drop in maintenance revenue. As it relates to our end markets, the outlook for the 2025 North America box office is strong with growth projected at over 10% year over year, driven by a recovery from last year's strike. The industry has demonstrated remarkable resilience and we remain optimistic about its long term recovery and growth trajectory. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:09:33And we're seeing a continuation of growth in overall consumer spending on leisure, entertainment and experiential categories, which are outpacing traditional retail channels. Leisure and entertainment segments in particular are performing better now than they did pre pandemic as consumers prioritize memorable experiences. These trends provide a strong tailwind for our business as we look to align with these evolving preferences. As we've demonstrated, our growing presence in the theater and entertainment channels, especially through ICEE and Dippin' Dots, positions us well to take advantage of these trends. With regard to our operations and logistics, our supply chain initiatives driven by the addition of 3 new RDCs are delivering as planned by increasing capacity and improving the efficiency of how we move products to customers. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:10:36With operations now spanning 9 cold storage facilities, we have simplified logistics management across our network and lowered our inventory levels without compromising service. Currently, over 94% of our sales orders are shipped from the new distribution network compared to under 30% a year ago. This has resulted in more than a 12% reduction in average haul length, improved on time performance and decreased line haul cost 13% per pound in our snack food business compared to the same quarter last year. Moving to the marketing front, we're investing heavily in digital and shopper marketing to drive conversion across key brands like Super Pretzel, Luigi's and Dogsters. In foodservice in particular, we're maintaining strong business to business marketing efforts focused on soft pretzels, churros and funnel cakes with direct to operator engagements driving leads. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:11:49I want to highlight progress against a couple of our growth initiatives. We have made great progress on the rollout of Dippin' Dots to the theater channel. We increased our presence by 186 locations or about 21% in the Q1. We're also excited about the recently launched Dippin' Dots Sundays for retail, which represents a great entry into the retail channel for this iconic brand. The new sundaes hit the shelves in January with a large retailer and will reach other retailers throughout the quarter. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:12:27As it relates to capital deployment, our strong balance sheet and strong liquidity position provide us with the flexibility to pursue strategic opportunities, including M and A that align with our long term growth objectives. We remain disciplined and thoughtful in deploying capital, ensuring that any investments we make deliver sustainable value for our shareholders. In summary, while Q1 presented challenges, we believe they are short term in nature and remain confident in our ability to leverage the strength of our diversified product portfolio and iconic brands. Looking ahead, we remain focused on driving incremental placements, fostering innovation and expanding partnerships, which will position us well for sustained growth and value creation. I'd like to thank all the team members at J&J for their discipline and dedication to our long term success. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:13:34Thank you for your continued support. I'd now like to hand the call over to Sean. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:13:39Thank you, Dan, and good morning, everyone. Looking at our fiscal Q1 results, revenue increased 4.1% to $362,600,000 marking a Q1 record. As Dan mentioned, we experienced increased sales across the portfolio from a combination of volume and price increases. Foodservice revenue increased 4.5%, retail was up 2.2% and frozen beverage grew 4%. Cost of goods sold increased 5.9 percent to $268,700,000 leading to a gross profit of $93,900,000 compared to $94,600,000 in the year ago period, while gross margin declined to 25.9 percent from 27.2%. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:14:23As Dan mentioned, despite the top line growth compared to the prior year, price increases lagged input cost inflation and we also experienced some unfavorable mix changes associated with our bakery business, as well as the loss of limited time offered churro volumes from last year. Record Q1 frozen beverage performance supported results despite headwinds from a weaker peso related to our Mexico business. Additionally, hurricane impacts contributed to an estimated $600,000 of lost gross profit. Moving down the income statement, total operating expenses were 24.2 percent of sales as compared to 24.4% last year. Overall operating expenses increased 3.3%. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:15:06Marketing expenses were 7.9% of sales, in line with last year's percentage of sales. Overall marketing and selling expenses increased 4.4%. Almost half of the year over year increase was related to increased brand amortization expenses associated with a legacy churro brand that is being phased out for the Ola churro brand. Distribution costs were 10.9 percent of sales, down from 11.6% in the prior year. The decline primarily reflects the impact of start up costs at our regional distribution centers last year. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:15:39Absent those impacts in the prior year, distribution costs would have been approximately in line with last year's percentage of sales. As volume ramps up over time, we expect the distribution cost rate to decline. Administrative expenses were 5.2 percent of sales, in line with the prior year. Other general expense increased $1,600,000 year over year, primarily reflecting favorable impacts in the prior year period. Operating income for the quarter declined to $6,200,000 from $9,700,000 reflecting the near term pressures on profitability. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:16:13Adjusted operating income was $8,200,000 compared to $13,500,000 last year. The effective tax rate was 27.2% for the quarter compared to 26.6% in the prior year. This resulted in net earnings of $5,100,000 compared to $7,300,000 in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 and earnings per diluted share of $0.26 versus $0.37 in the prior year period. Adjusted earnings per diluted share were $0.33 versus $0.52 in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA declined to $25,300,000 from $30,200,000 in the Q1 last year. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:16:50Taking a look at our balance sheet and cash flow, we continue to have a healthy balance sheet and liquidity position with $74,000,000 in cash and no long term debt at quarter end. During the quarter, we generated approximately $16,000,000 of free cash flow and we had approximately $213,000,000 of borrowing capacity under our revolving credit agreement. In closing, although the quarter presented some challenges that we're navigating, we're encouraged by some of the positives we've seen this quarter, particularly with the recovery in theater traffic given our presence in that channel. Our top line continues to grow from a combination of price and volume growth. Our bakery business has experienced some challenges, but it does provide some contractual protection from input cost volatility. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:17:36The Dippin' Dots rollout to theaters is progressing smoothly and new product launches are poised to drive further growth, positioning us well for the year ahead. Additionally, a strong balance sheet and cash generation continue to provide us with the flexibility to invest in the business. Before I turn the call over to the operator, I want to thank Dan, our Board of Directors and every member of the J and J team for their warm welcome. I would now like to turn the call over to the operator for questions and answers. Operator00:18:06Thank Operator00:18:11you. And our first question comes from the line of Todd Brooks of Operator00:18:29The Benchmark Company. Your line is now open. Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:18:33Hey, thanks for taking my questions and welcome aboard, Sean. Good to have you. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:18:36Thanks, Todd. Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:18:39Is there a way that you could provide kind of a gross margin bridge for the decline year over year kind of parsing out for us how much was commodity related, peso related and mix related, I think that would be helpful. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:18:52Yes. So in simple terms, Todd, if you look at the decline from where we were last year to this year in gross margin, you've got about 80 basis points that we associate with what I would call the gap in pricing relative to input costs. The balance of that is really coming through a mix with the Lawson or Bakery business. That's just simple broad strokes. When you think about the foreign exchange impact relative to last year, keep in mind that we have a relatively large frozen beverage business in Mexico, had a really solid quarter, but there was a headwind associated with the pesos. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:19:32So the pesos weakened about 20% versus prior year and that amount is that's almost $1,000,000 Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:19:41Okay, great. And just a more structural question. How does this kind of creep up in such a dramatic fashion over the course of a quarter? And as we're taking additional price actions in the current quarter, I think the comment in the release was that those actions would help to further mitigate some of these pressures that you just highlighted. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:20:07Yes. Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:20:08But it doesn't necessarily imply that it's being fully mitigated. So just kind of the thoughts on taking pricing, how much of these kind of especially commodity pressures you think you can mitigate Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:20:20and maybe tie that into Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:20:22a view for gross margin potential for the full year? Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:20:25Yes, sure. So again, going back to my earlier point, if you take the price increases and keep in mind these price increases have already been implemented in the quarter. Most of those were implemented in January, some roll through in February, but that is behind us. And the magnitude of the pricing that we've taken, had it been, say, retroactive to Q1, that would have closed right around 80 basis points of that gross margin contraction. So again, not to imply that that's going to cover all of the ingredient cost inflation, but it's going to help to cover a fair bit of that gap that we experienced in Q1. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:21:05And just as it relates to the ingredient cost inflation, the input cost inflation year over year, we did have some relief in flour. We had relief in dairy and some other items. But when you look at chocolates and you look at eggs, just the unit cost of both of those products have nearly doubled on a year over year basis. Surely, we would have liked to have had that pricing implemented in Q1. That didn't happen, but we're confident that we're getting it here in Q2. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:21:38In that pricing that I was just referencing, that's really kind of the snack side pricing. We expect that we're going to have about we've already implemented another 4%, approximately 4% in price increases associated with the frozen beverage business, another 3% in Dippin' Dots. But the sales team has worked through this with our customers and it will make a difference. Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:22:09That's good to hear. And then finally, is there any worry that with the consumer in a maybe let's call it a fragile but stable place right now that you get the pricing through, but what are you watching and where are you most worried about potential volume response for the downside that would offset some of this benefit? Thank you. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:22:32Yes, Todd, that's a great question. Good talking with you. We're watching that really closely and we will continue to watch it closely. But as you know, some of these increases that we've received from things like chocolates and eggs are pretty standard wide across the industry. And so we're going to have to pass some of those on and then just watch what happens at the end user. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:22:56We've been fortunate enough to be able to grow volume across the organization and even this quarter having a 4.1% increase. So we'll watch it closely, but we do feel like we need to pass those increases on. Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:23:11Okay. Thank you both. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:23:12And just to build on that, I mean, we've been selective in terms of where the pricing is being implemented, what products. So it's not as if it's just across the board. Operator00:23:25Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the Operator00:23:34line of Andrew Wolf of CL King. Your line is now open. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:23:39Great. Thanks. Sort of have a start with a follow-up on what Todd was some of the where it was sort of going at. So this is like if you adjust for the hurricane, this is the 2nd quarter in a row where the gross margin contracted roughly 100 basis points or a little more. So I mean is there any systems issues with regard to tracking costs and being time picking them up in a timely enough manner or are there contractual issues where you just can't bump the price up that immediate because you're stuck in a contract or is it more trade relations where certain price increases only come through with certain customers kind of on a fixed schedule. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:24:26Can you help us just understand why the from the outside why it's sort of half a year of price increases and of cost increases. Yes. And now we're seeing price realization a little bit of lag. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:24:45Yes, sure. Great question. And this I would describe this as is not being a matter of visibility. This was predominantly a function of just the time that it took to get these price increases through to our customers. There's been a lot of price increases in the industry for sure, given what we've seen in the inputs. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:25:11And so it just it took a little bit more time than we were planning for to get that pushed through. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:25:16Yes. Good morning, Andrew. This is Dan. Sean is spot on there. Todd just asked a question about the customer and what happens to the end user as these prices go up. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:25:28Whatever you're raising prices, it's a touchy subject to go after and sometimes during the contracts, sometimes there's a lag of time that it takes to get there. We believe that we have that covered as we go into the Q2, but yes, we've got a lag going into it. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:25:48Okay. And so roughly, again, taking out the hurricane impact, the 20 to 30 basis points that isn't yet covered. Is that pretty much all mix? Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:26:00Yes, that's right. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:26:01The extent it is. Can you Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:26:02kind of mix is it more to do with losing the high margin churros? Yes. Or is it within the bakery business? Any specificity and how you how that sort of gets better going forward is helpful. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:26:21Yes. We really had 2 things that happened in the quarter. One is, as you mentioned, the high volume churro business from a QSR that was really promoting it strongly, and we'll do that in the Q2. We still have to face that a little bit as well. The other is we lost some pie business at a major retailer that is really seasonal. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:26:41The only impact that it has is in that Q1, but that also had an impact on us. We retained the no sugar added piece of the pie business, but we lost the other as it became more competitive. And we've been on it and just did not retain a bit. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:26:58Yes. And I would describe that as being pretty attractive margin profile last year on the pies. But that margin wasn't going to hold this year given some of the competitive pressure. We bid on it at a lower price, ultimately didn't weren't awarded it, but it was in the prior year, it was a healthy margin, same with the churros. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:27:20So last thing, if we wanted to build back your operating profit by segment, I guess, we would take most of the 80 basis points into the profit and food service and most of the 20 basis points for mix, the profit for food retail? Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:27:41Yes, that's right. Yes. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:27:44And did you how much did the basis of the peso impact profitability for the beverage, gross beverage? Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:27:52Yes, it was look, it was close to $1,000,000 impact for the quarter. It's a pretty substantial business down there. And keep in mind, it's just we've reached that period where you're lapping the peso was trading around 17 last year Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:28:07at this Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:28:08time. And now we're up around 20. So it's close to a 20% impact. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:28:15Okay. Thank you. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:28:16Yes. Thank you. Operator00:28:18Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Operator00:28:26the line of Robert Dickerson of Jefferies. Your line is now open. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:28:31Great. Thanks so much. Good morning, everyone. I guess, just a couple of questions, hopefully not too hard. Dan, maybe first question. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:28:41I know you had a comment in the prepared remarks around just kind of recovery in the community store channel. And maybe if you could just spend a little time, trying to provide a little bit more color as to kind of what you're seeing actually in that channel, maybe more broadly speaking? And then also just kind of specific to kind of what's working for you more within the channel? That's the first question. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:29:06Yes. The reference there was our pretzel business growing inside the convenience store channel. And we have a really strong team associated with that today. And they've gone out there and found some good new business over the last 6 months or so. And we're seeing a nice recovery where maybe some of that business has lagged over the last year. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:29:30I like what our team is doing and I see a good recovery in that portion of our business. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:29:38Okay, cool. Super. And then maybe just kind of again broadly on the gross margin side, clearly understand everything you said so far around kind of cost price differential in the near term, there's some contractual protections and probably certain products, certain commodities. And then but then I also hear kind of like ongoing growth potential such that movie channel traffic can improve, the lineup looks good, etcetera, etcetera, with maybe still a little bit of kind of margin pressure in Q2. It doesn't sound like it would be as much, let's say, just given some of the pricing catch up. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:30:21But as we kind of think about like first half, back half, I feel like we talk about J and J a lot first half, back half just because of the seasonality of the business. As we sit here today, like could we be in a situation such that as we're in the back half of the year that that gross margin could actually wind up being at least flattish, just let's just like argument's sake, right? Pricing comes through, some of the one offs kind of go away, maybe traffic, movie channel picks up. Just trying to gauge how you're kind of thinking about that one line item as we look through the year? Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:30:59Yes, Rob, great question. I'm going to let Sean answer some of it and then I'll add some color to it. But thank you for that question. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:31:08Yes, good question. So the way I would portray that is, when we think about the second half, we're seeing the goal here, our expectation is that we're going to get back to that low 30% gross margin level. This quarter, the second quarter, I would describe that as being sort of transitional between Q1 and the back half. The one headwind that we really face in the Q2 is the churro volumes that we had last year. So we had pretty significant QSR churro volumes for the Super Bowl. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:31:42We've added new churro customers, but we don't expect to see the same volume in churros this Q2 that we did last year, and that's relatively attractive business. But when you look at the second half of the year, the expectation is that we still get back in that low-thirty percent margin range. And keep in mind that just the seasonality of the business, that's where you're going to start to see more help from the frozen beverage and the dipping dots in the portfolio. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:32:09Yes. And you mentioned in that in your conversation that the theaters and the theaters do anticipate being up 10% year over year. As you know, we've continued to grow inside the theaters with Dippin' Dots and with IC and really on our snack foods side too. And then just some good wins across the business as we enter into the second half of the year. We feel pretty confident that we'll be back into that range that we were last year, if not better, by the time the year is up. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:32:38Okay. Okay, super. That's very helpful. And then I guess just quickly on Dippin' Dots. Again, Dan, I thought I heard you, I just missed it a little bit from the detail. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:32:48So I'm sorry, but I thought I heard you speak to kind of a new retailer. You're entering or have entered with Dippin' Dots and we clearly were sitting here early February. I mean that is a product that again probably would have some seasonal lift. So maybe just kind of spend two seconds on kind of the magnitude of that retailer. Is that like a large national retailer, a lot of units in the majority of their locations? Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:33:13Just trying to get some sense as to how material that is. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:33:17Yes. We're really excited about the release of the Dippin' Dots in the retail and we've had great acceptance really all across the board. We did kick off with a major retailer that's nationwide in January and then it will be in the market really in all of them by the time we get into mid February. And then you can see it grow across retailers all throughout the quarter, really great acceptance to the new product. And so far, the early readings of the sell through have been really good. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:33:51So we're watching it closely, but we have a lot of really high hopes on that particular product. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:33:57All right. Super. And then just last quick one for me. It's just the repo authorization. We don't see that every day come from you, while at the same time also speaking to to always actively looking for kind of the next attractive acquisition opportunity. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:34:18Could it just be assumed at this point that like well absent an acquisition opportunity that yes, we will look to repurchase at least some of our stock and especially just kind of given where valuations today relative to history? That's all. Thanks. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:34:36Yes, I'll take that one. Yes, so I described this as just being consistent with the company's capital deployment strategy. Our objective, of course, is to deploy capital that we think generates value for shareholders over time. And we see compelling value in the shares. I will say that our plan is to be opportunistic in terms of the pace and the timing. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:35:02But I would view this as being complementary to the rest of the capital deployment strategy. This isn't something that is kind of an and or with that's an or with respect to M and A. So, yes, it's just a consistent approach is the best way to describe it. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:35:22Okay, great. Fair enough. Thank you. Appreciate it. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:35:25Thank you, Rob. Operator00:35:27Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn it Operator00:35:31back to Dan for closing remarks. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:35:34Thank you, operator. In closing, we are executing our strategy effectively in a dynamic operating environment and we remain confident in our ability to achieve our goals both in 2025 and over the long term. I'd also like to take a moment to commend Sean on his smooth transition and ability to quickly take a leadership role within our organization. We look forward to sharing our fiscal 2025 Q2 results with you. And in the meantime, if you have any questions or would like to connect with us, please reach out to our Investor Relations team at JCIR at 212-835-8500. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:36:16Thank you and have a wonderful day. Operator00:36:19Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsAnalystsNorberto AjaIR at J & J Snack FoodsDan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack FoodsShawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack FoodsTodd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLCAndrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the J&J Snack Foods Fiscal 2025 First Quarter Conference Call. As a reminder, this call may be recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Alberto Aja, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Norberto AjaIR at J & J Snack Foods00:00:15Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining the J and J Snack Foods fiscal 2025 Q1 conference call. Before getting started, let me take a minute to read the Safe Harbor language. This call contains forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements made on this call that do not relate to matters of historical fact should be considered forward looking statements, including statements regarding management's plans, strategies, goals, expectations and objectives as well as our anticipated financial performance. Norberto AjaIR at J & J Snack Foods00:00:50These statements are neither promises or guarantees and involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other important factors that may cause results, performance or achievements to be materially different from any future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by the forward looking statements. Risk factors and other items discussed in our annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended September 28, 2024, and our other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated by forward looking statements made on the call today. Any such forward looking statements represent management's estimates as of the date of the call today, February 4, 2025. While we may elect to update forward looking statements at some point in the future, we disclaim any obligation to do so even if subsequent events cause expectations to change. In addition, we may also reference certain non GAAP measures on the call today, including adjusted EBITDA, adjusted operating income or adjusted earnings per share, all of which are reconciled to the nearest GAAP measure in the company's earnings press release, which can be found in our Investor Relations section of our website. Norberto AjaIR at J & J Snack Foods00:02:01Joining me on the call today is Dan Fashner, our Chief Executive Officer along with Sean Munsell, our Chief Financial Officer. Following management's prepared remarks, we will open the call for a question and answer session. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Fashner. Please go ahead, Dan. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:02:22Thank you, Norberto. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss our fiscal Q1 results. Starting with a quick review of our Q1 results, we delivered solid top line growth of 4.1 percent to $362,600,000 driven by a combination of volume increases and pricing. However, our performance was impacted by a less than favorable sales mix along with the input cost inflation that was not fully covered with price increases. And although we delivered strong earnings improvement in the frozen beverages, foreign exchange headwinds associated with the peso limited the improvement. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:03:08Overall, gross margin declined to 25.9% from 27.2% compared to the prior year. The gross profit decline along with the higher operating expenses ultimately impacted our bottom line for the quarter. The unfavorable mix impact during the quarter primarily reflects 2 items. The first is the loss of some seasonal business within bakery with a declining margin profile that we bid on, but did not retain. The second is attributed to lower churro volumes in foodservice as we lap the benefit from a limited time offer with a quick serve restaurant last year. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:03:52Although we were able to grow volume elsewhere in the portfolio to help compensate for these losses, the mix was less favorable. Our cookie volume is up meaningfully versus the prior year, and we've recently invested in new capacity to augment our capabilities. We also added new churro customers in foodservice and believe this business will continue growing over time. Regarding pricing, while we realized price increases during the quarter, we were not able to fully offset the net impact of the higher input costs. We experienced significant inflation in chocolates, eggs and proteins that was only partly offset by deflation primarily in flour and dairy. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:04:42We have implemented additional pricing action in the 2nd quarter for select categories that will further mitigate input cost inflation. We also had some nice wins across the portfolio that helped to support our results during the quarter. Our frozen beverage business achieved record 1st quarter results on a rebound in theater traffic as the movie lineup recovered from last year. We achieved record results despite an unfavorable year over year weakening of the peso that impacted our frozen beverage performance in Mexico. We also delivered strong results in frozen novelties across the portfolio, led by the growth in Docksters and Dip and Dots. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:05:28Foodservice pretzels recovered in the quarter, mainly from a rebound in the convenience store channel and elsewhere. While we're not satisfied with our results, we view the underlying challenges as temporary. As I mentioned, we have implemented incremental pricing that has taken effect early in the Q2. And as always, we continue to pursue volume growth and mix improvement across the portfolio. Encouragingly, frozen beverages and snacks showed sequential improvement during the quarter, supporting confidence in our recovery trajectory. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:06:09We remain disciplined and focused on the business principles that have driven long term success and shareholder value. To that end, I am pleased to announce that our Board has approved a new $50,000,000 stock repurchase authorization. This decision reflects our confidence in J and J's long term value and our financial flexibility. With a strong balance sheet and ample liquidity, we are well equipped to execute this plan opportunistically, while continuing to invest in organic and inorganic growth opportunities. We remain disciplined and thoughtful in deploying capital, ensuring that any investments we make deliver sustainable value for our shareholders. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:06:57Let me now briefly review highlights from each of our 3 business segments. Starting with Foodservice, this segment continues to grow driven by innovation and strategic partnerships despite some unfavorable changes to the sales mix. We realized 4.5% sales growth across foodservice, led by a 4.8% increase in soft pretzels as convenience store sales rebounded. Frozen Novelties increased an impressive 9.8%, which included 8.4% sales growth in Zippin' Dots, driven by the theater and our new vending channels. Turo sales declined 9.2%, reflecting the lapping of a limited time offer volumes that I referenced earlier. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:07:50Bakery sales growth of 6.6% largely reflects price increases to offset input cost inflation. As for retail, we saw opportunities and challenges that led to a 2.2% increase in sales. Frozen novelty sales increased meaningfully, led primarily by volume gains in Luigi's and Dogsters, which outpaced declines elsewhere in the retail portfolio. The soft pretzel sales decline of 7.4% was partly attributed to an ordering system issue with a large customer that temporarily suppressed volumes. Resolution of this issue in late December positions us for improvement in Q2. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:08:38Frozen beverage sales increased 4%, driven by an impressive 10% volume increase. The boost in volume was attributed to 45% growth in theater channels compared to the prior year, thanks to strong content releases in November December. In addition to volume growth, machine revenue increased by 13%, offsetting a 3.7% drop in maintenance revenue. As it relates to our end markets, the outlook for the 2025 North America box office is strong with growth projected at over 10% year over year, driven by a recovery from last year's strike. The industry has demonstrated remarkable resilience and we remain optimistic about its long term recovery and growth trajectory. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:09:33And we're seeing a continuation of growth in overall consumer spending on leisure, entertainment and experiential categories, which are outpacing traditional retail channels. Leisure and entertainment segments in particular are performing better now than they did pre pandemic as consumers prioritize memorable experiences. These trends provide a strong tailwind for our business as we look to align with these evolving preferences. As we've demonstrated, our growing presence in the theater and entertainment channels, especially through ICEE and Dippin' Dots, positions us well to take advantage of these trends. With regard to our operations and logistics, our supply chain initiatives driven by the addition of 3 new RDCs are delivering as planned by increasing capacity and improving the efficiency of how we move products to customers. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:10:36With operations now spanning 9 cold storage facilities, we have simplified logistics management across our network and lowered our inventory levels without compromising service. Currently, over 94% of our sales orders are shipped from the new distribution network compared to under 30% a year ago. This has resulted in more than a 12% reduction in average haul length, improved on time performance and decreased line haul cost 13% per pound in our snack food business compared to the same quarter last year. Moving to the marketing front, we're investing heavily in digital and shopper marketing to drive conversion across key brands like Super Pretzel, Luigi's and Dogsters. In foodservice in particular, we're maintaining strong business to business marketing efforts focused on soft pretzels, churros and funnel cakes with direct to operator engagements driving leads. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:11:49I want to highlight progress against a couple of our growth initiatives. We have made great progress on the rollout of Dippin' Dots to the theater channel. We increased our presence by 186 locations or about 21% in the Q1. We're also excited about the recently launched Dippin' Dots Sundays for retail, which represents a great entry into the retail channel for this iconic brand. The new sundaes hit the shelves in January with a large retailer and will reach other retailers throughout the quarter. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:12:27As it relates to capital deployment, our strong balance sheet and strong liquidity position provide us with the flexibility to pursue strategic opportunities, including M and A that align with our long term growth objectives. We remain disciplined and thoughtful in deploying capital, ensuring that any investments we make deliver sustainable value for our shareholders. In summary, while Q1 presented challenges, we believe they are short term in nature and remain confident in our ability to leverage the strength of our diversified product portfolio and iconic brands. Looking ahead, we remain focused on driving incremental placements, fostering innovation and expanding partnerships, which will position us well for sustained growth and value creation. I'd like to thank all the team members at J&J for their discipline and dedication to our long term success. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:13:34Thank you for your continued support. I'd now like to hand the call over to Sean. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:13:39Thank you, Dan, and good morning, everyone. Looking at our fiscal Q1 results, revenue increased 4.1% to $362,600,000 marking a Q1 record. As Dan mentioned, we experienced increased sales across the portfolio from a combination of volume and price increases. Foodservice revenue increased 4.5%, retail was up 2.2% and frozen beverage grew 4%. Cost of goods sold increased 5.9 percent to $268,700,000 leading to a gross profit of $93,900,000 compared to $94,600,000 in the year ago period, while gross margin declined to 25.9 percent from 27.2%. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:14:23As Dan mentioned, despite the top line growth compared to the prior year, price increases lagged input cost inflation and we also experienced some unfavorable mix changes associated with our bakery business, as well as the loss of limited time offered churro volumes from last year. Record Q1 frozen beverage performance supported results despite headwinds from a weaker peso related to our Mexico business. Additionally, hurricane impacts contributed to an estimated $600,000 of lost gross profit. Moving down the income statement, total operating expenses were 24.2 percent of sales as compared to 24.4% last year. Overall operating expenses increased 3.3%. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:15:06Marketing expenses were 7.9% of sales, in line with last year's percentage of sales. Overall marketing and selling expenses increased 4.4%. Almost half of the year over year increase was related to increased brand amortization expenses associated with a legacy churro brand that is being phased out for the Ola churro brand. Distribution costs were 10.9 percent of sales, down from 11.6% in the prior year. The decline primarily reflects the impact of start up costs at our regional distribution centers last year. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:15:39Absent those impacts in the prior year, distribution costs would have been approximately in line with last year's percentage of sales. As volume ramps up over time, we expect the distribution cost rate to decline. Administrative expenses were 5.2 percent of sales, in line with the prior year. Other general expense increased $1,600,000 year over year, primarily reflecting favorable impacts in the prior year period. Operating income for the quarter declined to $6,200,000 from $9,700,000 reflecting the near term pressures on profitability. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:16:13Adjusted operating income was $8,200,000 compared to $13,500,000 last year. The effective tax rate was 27.2% for the quarter compared to 26.6% in the prior year. This resulted in net earnings of $5,100,000 compared to $7,300,000 in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 and earnings per diluted share of $0.26 versus $0.37 in the prior year period. Adjusted earnings per diluted share were $0.33 versus $0.52 in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA declined to $25,300,000 from $30,200,000 in the Q1 last year. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:16:50Taking a look at our balance sheet and cash flow, we continue to have a healthy balance sheet and liquidity position with $74,000,000 in cash and no long term debt at quarter end. During the quarter, we generated approximately $16,000,000 of free cash flow and we had approximately $213,000,000 of borrowing capacity under our revolving credit agreement. In closing, although the quarter presented some challenges that we're navigating, we're encouraged by some of the positives we've seen this quarter, particularly with the recovery in theater traffic given our presence in that channel. Our top line continues to grow from a combination of price and volume growth. Our bakery business has experienced some challenges, but it does provide some contractual protection from input cost volatility. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:17:36The Dippin' Dots rollout to theaters is progressing smoothly and new product launches are poised to drive further growth, positioning us well for the year ahead. Additionally, a strong balance sheet and cash generation continue to provide us with the flexibility to invest in the business. Before I turn the call over to the operator, I want to thank Dan, our Board of Directors and every member of the J and J team for their warm welcome. I would now like to turn the call over to the operator for questions and answers. Operator00:18:06Thank Operator00:18:11you. And our first question comes from the line of Todd Brooks of Operator00:18:29The Benchmark Company. Your line is now open. Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:18:33Hey, thanks for taking my questions and welcome aboard, Sean. Good to have you. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:18:36Thanks, Todd. Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:18:39Is there a way that you could provide kind of a gross margin bridge for the decline year over year kind of parsing out for us how much was commodity related, peso related and mix related, I think that would be helpful. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:18:52Yes. So in simple terms, Todd, if you look at the decline from where we were last year to this year in gross margin, you've got about 80 basis points that we associate with what I would call the gap in pricing relative to input costs. The balance of that is really coming through a mix with the Lawson or Bakery business. That's just simple broad strokes. When you think about the foreign exchange impact relative to last year, keep in mind that we have a relatively large frozen beverage business in Mexico, had a really solid quarter, but there was a headwind associated with the pesos. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:19:32So the pesos weakened about 20% versus prior year and that amount is that's almost $1,000,000 Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:19:41Okay, great. And just a more structural question. How does this kind of creep up in such a dramatic fashion over the course of a quarter? And as we're taking additional price actions in the current quarter, I think the comment in the release was that those actions would help to further mitigate some of these pressures that you just highlighted. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:20:07Yes. Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:20:08But it doesn't necessarily imply that it's being fully mitigated. So just kind of the thoughts on taking pricing, how much of these kind of especially commodity pressures you think you can mitigate Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:20:20and maybe tie that into Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:20:22a view for gross margin potential for the full year? Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:20:25Yes, sure. So again, going back to my earlier point, if you take the price increases and keep in mind these price increases have already been implemented in the quarter. Most of those were implemented in January, some roll through in February, but that is behind us. And the magnitude of the pricing that we've taken, had it been, say, retroactive to Q1, that would have closed right around 80 basis points of that gross margin contraction. So again, not to imply that that's going to cover all of the ingredient cost inflation, but it's going to help to cover a fair bit of that gap that we experienced in Q1. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:21:05And just as it relates to the ingredient cost inflation, the input cost inflation year over year, we did have some relief in flour. We had relief in dairy and some other items. But when you look at chocolates and you look at eggs, just the unit cost of both of those products have nearly doubled on a year over year basis. Surely, we would have liked to have had that pricing implemented in Q1. That didn't happen, but we're confident that we're getting it here in Q2. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:21:38In that pricing that I was just referencing, that's really kind of the snack side pricing. We expect that we're going to have about we've already implemented another 4%, approximately 4% in price increases associated with the frozen beverage business, another 3% in Dippin' Dots. But the sales team has worked through this with our customers and it will make a difference. Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:22:09That's good to hear. And then finally, is there any worry that with the consumer in a maybe let's call it a fragile but stable place right now that you get the pricing through, but what are you watching and where are you most worried about potential volume response for the downside that would offset some of this benefit? Thank you. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:22:32Yes, Todd, that's a great question. Good talking with you. We're watching that really closely and we will continue to watch it closely. But as you know, some of these increases that we've received from things like chocolates and eggs are pretty standard wide across the industry. And so we're going to have to pass some of those on and then just watch what happens at the end user. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:22:56We've been fortunate enough to be able to grow volume across the organization and even this quarter having a 4.1% increase. So we'll watch it closely, but we do feel like we need to pass those increases on. Todd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:23:11Okay. Thank you both. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:23:12And just to build on that, I mean, we've been selective in terms of where the pricing is being implemented, what products. So it's not as if it's just across the board. Operator00:23:25Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the Operator00:23:34line of Andrew Wolf of CL King. Your line is now open. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:23:39Great. Thanks. Sort of have a start with a follow-up on what Todd was some of the where it was sort of going at. So this is like if you adjust for the hurricane, this is the 2nd quarter in a row where the gross margin contracted roughly 100 basis points or a little more. So I mean is there any systems issues with regard to tracking costs and being time picking them up in a timely enough manner or are there contractual issues where you just can't bump the price up that immediate because you're stuck in a contract or is it more trade relations where certain price increases only come through with certain customers kind of on a fixed schedule. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:24:26Can you help us just understand why the from the outside why it's sort of half a year of price increases and of cost increases. Yes. And now we're seeing price realization a little bit of lag. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:24:45Yes, sure. Great question. And this I would describe this as is not being a matter of visibility. This was predominantly a function of just the time that it took to get these price increases through to our customers. There's been a lot of price increases in the industry for sure, given what we've seen in the inputs. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:25:11And so it just it took a little bit more time than we were planning for to get that pushed through. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:25:16Yes. Good morning, Andrew. This is Dan. Sean is spot on there. Todd just asked a question about the customer and what happens to the end user as these prices go up. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:25:28Whatever you're raising prices, it's a touchy subject to go after and sometimes during the contracts, sometimes there's a lag of time that it takes to get there. We believe that we have that covered as we go into the Q2, but yes, we've got a lag going into it. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:25:48Okay. And so roughly, again, taking out the hurricane impact, the 20 to 30 basis points that isn't yet covered. Is that pretty much all mix? Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:26:00Yes, that's right. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:26:01The extent it is. Can you Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:26:02kind of mix is it more to do with losing the high margin churros? Yes. Or is it within the bakery business? Any specificity and how you how that sort of gets better going forward is helpful. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:26:21Yes. We really had 2 things that happened in the quarter. One is, as you mentioned, the high volume churro business from a QSR that was really promoting it strongly, and we'll do that in the Q2. We still have to face that a little bit as well. The other is we lost some pie business at a major retailer that is really seasonal. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:26:41The only impact that it has is in that Q1, but that also had an impact on us. We retained the no sugar added piece of the pie business, but we lost the other as it became more competitive. And we've been on it and just did not retain a bit. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:26:58Yes. And I would describe that as being pretty attractive margin profile last year on the pies. But that margin wasn't going to hold this year given some of the competitive pressure. We bid on it at a lower price, ultimately didn't weren't awarded it, but it was in the prior year, it was a healthy margin, same with the churros. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:27:20So last thing, if we wanted to build back your operating profit by segment, I guess, we would take most of the 80 basis points into the profit and food service and most of the 20 basis points for mix, the profit for food retail? Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:27:41Yes, that's right. Yes. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:27:44And did you how much did the basis of the peso impact profitability for the beverage, gross beverage? Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:27:52Yes, it was look, it was close to $1,000,000 impact for the quarter. It's a pretty substantial business down there. And keep in mind, it's just we've reached that period where you're lapping the peso was trading around 17 last year Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:28:07at this Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:28:08time. And now we're up around 20. So it's close to a 20% impact. Andrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & Associates00:28:15Okay. Thank you. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:28:16Yes. Thank you. Operator00:28:18Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Operator00:28:26the line of Robert Dickerson of Jefferies. Your line is now open. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:28:31Great. Thanks so much. Good morning, everyone. I guess, just a couple of questions, hopefully not too hard. Dan, maybe first question. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:28:41I know you had a comment in the prepared remarks around just kind of recovery in the community store channel. And maybe if you could just spend a little time, trying to provide a little bit more color as to kind of what you're seeing actually in that channel, maybe more broadly speaking? And then also just kind of specific to kind of what's working for you more within the channel? That's the first question. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:29:06Yes. The reference there was our pretzel business growing inside the convenience store channel. And we have a really strong team associated with that today. And they've gone out there and found some good new business over the last 6 months or so. And we're seeing a nice recovery where maybe some of that business has lagged over the last year. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:29:30I like what our team is doing and I see a good recovery in that portion of our business. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:29:38Okay, cool. Super. And then maybe just kind of again broadly on the gross margin side, clearly understand everything you said so far around kind of cost price differential in the near term, there's some contractual protections and probably certain products, certain commodities. And then but then I also hear kind of like ongoing growth potential such that movie channel traffic can improve, the lineup looks good, etcetera, etcetera, with maybe still a little bit of kind of margin pressure in Q2. It doesn't sound like it would be as much, let's say, just given some of the pricing catch up. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:30:21But as we kind of think about like first half, back half, I feel like we talk about J and J a lot first half, back half just because of the seasonality of the business. As we sit here today, like could we be in a situation such that as we're in the back half of the year that that gross margin could actually wind up being at least flattish, just let's just like argument's sake, right? Pricing comes through, some of the one offs kind of go away, maybe traffic, movie channel picks up. Just trying to gauge how you're kind of thinking about that one line item as we look through the year? Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:30:59Yes, Rob, great question. I'm going to let Sean answer some of it and then I'll add some color to it. But thank you for that question. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:31:08Yes, good question. So the way I would portray that is, when we think about the second half, we're seeing the goal here, our expectation is that we're going to get back to that low 30% gross margin level. This quarter, the second quarter, I would describe that as being sort of transitional between Q1 and the back half. The one headwind that we really face in the Q2 is the churro volumes that we had last year. So we had pretty significant QSR churro volumes for the Super Bowl. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:31:42We've added new churro customers, but we don't expect to see the same volume in churros this Q2 that we did last year, and that's relatively attractive business. But when you look at the second half of the year, the expectation is that we still get back in that low-thirty percent margin range. And keep in mind that just the seasonality of the business, that's where you're going to start to see more help from the frozen beverage and the dipping dots in the portfolio. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:32:09Yes. And you mentioned in that in your conversation that the theaters and the theaters do anticipate being up 10% year over year. As you know, we've continued to grow inside the theaters with Dippin' Dots and with IC and really on our snack foods side too. And then just some good wins across the business as we enter into the second half of the year. We feel pretty confident that we'll be back into that range that we were last year, if not better, by the time the year is up. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:32:38Okay. Okay, super. That's very helpful. And then I guess just quickly on Dippin' Dots. Again, Dan, I thought I heard you, I just missed it a little bit from the detail. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:32:48So I'm sorry, but I thought I heard you speak to kind of a new retailer. You're entering or have entered with Dippin' Dots and we clearly were sitting here early February. I mean that is a product that again probably would have some seasonal lift. So maybe just kind of spend two seconds on kind of the magnitude of that retailer. Is that like a large national retailer, a lot of units in the majority of their locations? Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:33:13Just trying to get some sense as to how material that is. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:33:17Yes. We're really excited about the release of the Dippin' Dots in the retail and we've had great acceptance really all across the board. We did kick off with a major retailer that's nationwide in January and then it will be in the market really in all of them by the time we get into mid February. And then you can see it grow across retailers all throughout the quarter, really great acceptance to the new product. And so far, the early readings of the sell through have been really good. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:33:51So we're watching it closely, but we have a lot of really high hopes on that particular product. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:33:57All right. Super. And then just last quick one for me. It's just the repo authorization. We don't see that every day come from you, while at the same time also speaking to to always actively looking for kind of the next attractive acquisition opportunity. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:34:18Could it just be assumed at this point that like well absent an acquisition opportunity that yes, we will look to repurchase at least some of our stock and especially just kind of given where valuations today relative to history? That's all. Thanks. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:34:36Yes, I'll take that one. Yes, so I described this as just being consistent with the company's capital deployment strategy. Our objective, of course, is to deploy capital that we think generates value for shareholders over time. And we see compelling value in the shares. I will say that our plan is to be opportunistic in terms of the pace and the timing. Shawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack Foods00:35:02But I would view this as being complementary to the rest of the capital deployment strategy. This isn't something that is kind of an and or with that's an or with respect to M and A. So, yes, it's just a consistent approach is the best way to describe it. Rob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLC00:35:22Okay, great. Fair enough. Thank you. Appreciate it. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:35:25Thank you, Rob. Operator00:35:27Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn it Operator00:35:31back to Dan for closing remarks. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:35:34Thank you, operator. In closing, we are executing our strategy effectively in a dynamic operating environment and we remain confident in our ability to achieve our goals both in 2025 and over the long term. I'd also like to take a moment to commend Sean on his smooth transition and ability to quickly take a leadership role within our organization. We look forward to sharing our fiscal 2025 Q2 results with you. And in the meantime, if you have any questions or would like to connect with us, please reach out to our Investor Relations team at JCIR at 212-835-8500. Dan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack Foods00:36:16Thank you and have a wonderful day. Operator00:36:19Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsAnalystsNorberto AjaIR at J & J Snack FoodsDan FachnerCEO at J & J Snack FoodsShawn MunsellCFO at J & J Snack FoodsTodd BrooksEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLCAndrew WolfSVP & Senior Research Analyst at C.L. King & AssociatesRob DickersonManaging Director - Consumer Staples Equity Research at Jefferies LLCPowered by