Amentum Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Good morning, and welcome to Amentum's First Quarter Fiscal Year twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. Note that today's call is being recorded. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

Instructions will be provided at that time. I would now like to turn the call over to Nathan Rutledge, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Nathan Rutledge
Nathan Rutledge
Senior VP & Head Investor Relations at Amentum Holdings

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. We hope you've had an opportunity to read the press release we issued yesterday afternoon, which is posted on our Investor Relations website. We have also provided presentation slides to facilitate today's call. So let's move to Slide two. Please note that this morning's discussion will contain forward looking statements that are subject to important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from anticipated.

Nathan Rutledge
Nathan Rutledge
Senior VP & Head Investor Relations at Amentum Holdings

I refer you to our SEC filings for a discussion of these factors, including the Risk Factor section of our annual report on Form 10 ks. The statements represent our views as of today and subsequent events may cause our views to change. We may elect to update the forward looking statements at some point in the future but specifically disclaim any obligation to do so. In addition, we will discuss pro form a financial measures prepared in accordance with Article 11 of Regulation S X as well as non GAAP financial measures, which we believe provide useful information for investors. Both our press release and our supplemental presentation slides include reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures.

Nathan Rutledge
Nathan Rutledge
Senior VP & Head Investor Relations at Amentum Holdings

These pro form a and non GAAP financial measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for financial measures prepared in accordance with GAAP. Our safe harbor statement included on this slide should be incorporated as part of any transcript of this call. With me today to discuss our business and our financial results are John Heller, Chief Executive Officer and Travis Johnson, Chief Financial Officer. We are also joined by other members of management, including Steve Arnett, our Chief Operating Officer. With that, moving to Slide three, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, John Heller.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Thank you, Nathan, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today and welcome to Aumentum's first quarterly earnings conference call. Fiscal year twenty twenty five is off to a strong start with growth across several key financial and operational metrics. The combined strength of our business has quickly started to yield positive results as evidenced by our performance in the first quarter with momentum building. Our integration and value capture activities remain on track as we continue to execute on our strategic priorities.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

I'm immensely proud of the progress we have made in just four months, reinforcing the achievements of our integration efforts and the bright future that lies ahead for momentum. As you can see on Slide three, we delivered a strong first quarter performance across the board, including revenues of $3,400,000,000 reflecting 2% year over year growth adjusted EBITDA of $262,000,000 up 3% from the prior year quarter and free cash flow of $102,000,000 Our performance is a testament to outstanding execution by our entire team and we remain well positioned to deliver on the commitments we set out for the fiscal year. Diving a bit further into our growth, let's move to business development results on Slide four. In Q1, we had $3,600,000,000 in net bookings, resulting in a 1.1 times quarterly book to bill ratio and a total backlog of $45,000,000,000 representing 3.2 times annual revenue coverage. The results underscore our continued strength and capabilities, demonstrated through contract wins that reinforce the innovative solutions and consistent value we provide to our customers across diverse end markets.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

I want to take a moment here to call out a few notable examples from the quarter, all of which use advanced digital methods to drive more efficient and effective outcomes for our customers. First, the Department of Energy awarded the West Valley Demonstration Project, a $3,000,000,000 single award IDIQ with a ten year ordering period to a joint venture which includes Omentum. Under the contract, we will provide advanced technology solutions, including unmanned robotics, sensors, telematics and digital tools to safely decommission nuclear facilities. While Momentum will not recognize revenues or backlog as a result of this award, we expect it to generate meaningful earnings and cash flow for years to come. When taking into consideration Aumentum's proportional share of all unconsolidated joint venture revenues and bookings for the first quarter, Book to bill was 1.5 times driven by the West Valley award.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Second, we successfully recompeted the U. S. Department of Defense Counter Threat Finance Program, a $248,000,000 contract over eight years that leverages mission driven data analytics solutions to disrupt and degrade adversary financial networks that support transnational criminal organizations. We take great pride in this mission and are honored to continue this critical work. And finally, on the commercial side, we have secured over $400,000,000 in awards with the Fortune 500 customers across key areas such as the deployment and optimization of five gs networks and critical infrastructure modernization, further solidifying our reputation as a trusted partner in the commercial sector.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Looking ahead, we entered the second quarter with significant momentum. We currently have $30,000,000,000 in pending awards, driven by the $12,000,000,000 of submitted bids in Q1, and we remain on track to submit over $35,000,000,000 for the full fiscal year. We have made a lot of progress in the short months since coming together. And I'd like to highlight how we're starting to realize tangible benefits from the merger. Let's turn to Slide five.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

As a combined company, we are already seeing strong operational and financial performance, improved efficiency and greater alignment across teams. These benefits are reflected in the form of accelerating growth prospects, advancing our technology enabled solutions, and progressing a strong culture underpinned by excellence and collaboration. Starting with our accelerating growth prospects, we have been operating with an aligned go to market structure and strategy in place since day one, and our robust business development engine is working. The benefits of our systematic approach, which was planned in the months leading up to the merger, are evidenced by the significant bid volume during the quarter. In addition, building on the success of both legacy organizations, we launched a talented and dedicated enterprise capture team led by Sean Mullen, our Chief Growth Officer, to focus on our largest and most strategic business opportunities.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

This team will be instrumental in enabling our pursuit of deals greater than $1,000,000,000 which based on our pipeline today, we expect will be more than 15 opportunities from now through the end of fiscal year twenty twenty six. We are now positioned to maximize success within our core markets, while expanding addressable market opportunities in new and emerging areas that leverage our expanded capabilities and expertise. Second, technology and innovation are critical enablers of our competitive advantage and differentiation. During the quarter, our Chief Technology Officer, Joe Bruning, launched the new Aumentum Technology Advisory Councils, which will drive innovation and ensure Momentum stays ahead of emerging trends for many years to come. Jill also oversees Momentum's broader innovation strategy, fostering collaboration and knowledge sharing across our nine global engineering centers of excellence.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Our technology strategy has enabled the creation of a platform to cross sell capabilities across end markets, taking advantage of our breadth of expertise and the scale of our business. Finally, the foundation of our success lies in the strength and expertise of our talented 53,000 employees who are the driving force behind all of our achievements. Our teams have remained focused on our strategic priorities and are operating at the highest levels fostering collaboration, prioritizing engagement and encouraging innovative problem solving to help drive growth. As we continue to expand and strengthen our talent base, I'm excited to welcome to our leadership team, Jennifer Wall Smith, President of our Intelligence and Cyber business, and Darren Burton, our Chief People Officer. Both Jennifer and Darren bring valuable expertise and experience that will be instrumental in advancing Amentum's vision, while positioning us for continued success and growth in the future.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

I also want to take a moment to thank our integration management team. Their tireless dedication and long days have been instrumental in ensuring we remain on track to execute a seamless integration. Because of the incredible work they've done, we remain on a firm path to achieving $30,000,000 in run rate next synergies by the end of fiscal year twenty twenty five. This underscores the impact of our proactive planning, which has allowed us to avoid significant delays or disruptions while ensuring a seamless transition as we continue to realize the benefits of our combination. Turning to Slide six.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

We acknowledge the impact of the new administration's priorities on our market, particularly regarding potential shifts in focus and a drive for greater efficiency in government. At its core, Momentum has a culture of innovation and agility and when coupled with our unmatched advanced engineering and technology expertise, we are uniquely positioned for continued success. Momentum has more than a century long history supporting America's most complex and challenging defense and national security priorities, including contributions to iconic endeavors like the Manhattan Project and the SR-seventy one Blackbird, as well as countless other mission critical initiatives. Further, with an increasingly complex geopolitical landscape, the importance and demand for the modernization and next generation technology solutions Momentum provides has never been greater. There are countless examples of how Momentum is already advancing the future together with our customers today.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

To highlight a few, we are leveraging our integrated digital engineering approach or IDEA to provide cutting edge electronic warfare and ISR solutions to support the DoD's modernization priorities. On our I Teams program, we are advancing DoD goals in INDOPACOM through innovative C5ISR research, development and engineering. And through our unique delivery model, which emphasizes efficiency at scale and leverages advanced digital methods and outcome based solutions, Momentum is modernizing complex legacy systems for customers like the U. S. Navy, ensuring they have the critical capabilities they need for today's challenges.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Our focus remains on enhancing our advanced engineering and technology capabilities to deliver better, faster and more cost effective solutions to the U. S. Government. Our solutions are driving modernization and next generation technology adoption and we're executing with speed to meet our customers' needs. Momentum's scale, flexible business model and proactive approach position us for continued growth and success.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

As a result, I am more confident and energized than ever about Omentum's future and our ability to drive sustained shareholder value through delivering long term growth and strong free cash flow generation. With that, I will turn it over to Travis, who will take you through the financials in more details.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. To echo John's sentiment, I'm very pleased with the results in our first quarter as a combined public company. Financial performance was in line with our expectations and resulted in growth across all key metrics. I'm also excited about what we're seeing in our leading indicators. In particular, the robust Q1 business development results provide a great start to the fiscal year and help position momentum to deliver long term value for our stakeholders.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Before diving into the details, I'd like to again highlight that while our GAAP results provide an accounting view of Omentum's legacy business excluding CMS, today's discussion will focus on our non GAAP results compared to the pro form a results from the first quarter of fiscal twenty twenty four. These figures offer a combined view of the new momentum business and provide performance insights on a more comparable basis. Let's turn to Slide seven, which highlights the strong Q1 performance John mentioned earlier. Revenues of $3,400,000,000 reflect 2% growth and were driven by year over year increases in both digital solutions and global engineering solutions. Adjusted EBITDA was $262,000,000 reflecting a 3% increase year over year and benefited from a 10 basis point increase in adjusted EBITDA margins.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Adjusted diluted earnings per share was 0.51 up 2% from a year ago with strong operating performance more than offsetting higher interest expense. Moving to Slide eight, let me provide an overview of results for the reportable segments introduced on our last earnings call. Digital solutions, which provides advanced digital and data driven solutions primarily for the U. S. Federal government and commercial customers generated revenues of $1,300,000,000 representing 1% growth.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

The year over year increase was driven by new contract awards, partially offset by the expected ramp down of historical programs. Excluding the previously disclosed impact of CITEC, digital solutions revenues grew by 5% on an underlying basis. Adjusted EBITDA increased to $100,000,000 as a result of the higher revenue volume. Global engineering solutions, which provides long standing trusted engineering and technical solutions across the globe for U. S.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

And allied nations generated revenues of $2,100,000,000 reflective of 3% growth. The year over year increase was driven by the ramp up of new programs and on contract growth. Adjusted EBITDA increased 4% due to the higher revenue volume and improved operating performance. Turning to slide nine to cover our cash flow performance and capital structure highlights. First quarter free cash flow of $102,000,000 reflects a positive start to the fiscal year and was driven by solid operating performance, disciplined working capital management and favorable timing of tax and interest payments.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Our liquidity position remains strong with ending cash on hand of $522,000,000 and no outstanding balances on our $850,000,000 revolving credit facility. In addition, net leverage improved to four point zero times from 4.1 times at the end of fiscal year twenty twenty four as a result of both cash and adjusted EBITDA performance. We continue to believe our balance sheet strength, strong liquidity position and robust free cash flow profile will be fundamental drivers to creating long term shareholder value. We remain committed to prioritizing free cash flow to pay down debt and to achieving our target net leverage of approximately three times at the end of fiscal year twenty twenty six. On Slide 10, let's now turn to our fiscal year twenty twenty five full year outlook.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

As a result of Q1 performance, continued business development momentum came with 96% of fiscal year twenty twenty five revenues expected to come from existing or recompete business. We remain confident in the outlook provided in December. We are reaffirming guidance for the year, including revenues in the range of $13,800,000,000 to $14,200,000,000 adjusted EBITDA between $1,060,000,000 and $1,100,000,000 adjusted diluted earnings per share between $2 and $2.2 and free cash flow between $475,000,000 and $525,000,000 The underlying guidance assumptions remain unchanged and we continue to expect sequential increases in all metrics as we move to the remainder of fiscal year twenty twenty five, primarily as a result of newly awarded programs ramping up as well as from a fifty third week in the fourth quarter. While we acknowledge the situation is fluid and may change in the future, our guidance includes a revenues impact of approximately 1% as a result of the new administration initiatives. Further, we expect cash flow will follow normal seasonality with the majority generated in the second half of the fiscal year as a result of fringe benefit and payroll timing and as a result of expected strong collections in the fourth quarter given our alignment with the government's fiscal year end.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Wrapping up on Slide 11, we are pleased with our start to the year, which reflects the strength of our combined company. We are well positioned to meet our fiscal year twenty twenty five financial objectives and remain confident in our ability to deliver significant free cash flow growth and long term value for stakeholders. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you, sir. You. First, we will hear from Brian Giswal at Raymond James. Please go ahead, Brian.

Brian Gesuale
Brian Gesuale
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

Yes, good morning and really nice execution in the quarter. I wanted to dig in maybe a little bit on what you're seeing from your customers. You alluded to it towards the end in terms of shaping the revenue outlook for the year. Can you talk about maybe areas where you're seeing an acceleration with the administration priorities, but also areas that are taking a slowdown as you look forward?

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Sure. Good morning. Momentum's core business is focused on executing well funded enduring programs of national significance and of course across long contracts that we've talked before. And what we've seen is a pretty stable environment across most of our long contracts. And if where we do see some impact is probably some delays in awards due to executing with the government executing guidance from the executive orders.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

But of course, our long term contracts provide opportunity for on contract growth. And we're not seeing disruption on our general business. Like everyone, there's been an impact to contracts focused on foreign aid. Mentum had a small amount of that, but it's really immaterial, about less than 1% of revenue. And so it doesn't really had it hasn't really had a material impact on our outlook of the business.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

As you know, about 80% of our business is focused on the U. S. Government. We have 20% of our business is foreign governments commercial. So zero kind of concern about what's happening, with the federal government.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

And a vast majority of that 80% of our business is focused on national security agencies, Department of Defense, Intel. And those customers are continue to move out in terms of awards, RFPs, and we continue to see strong demand. I wouldn't say we've seen necessarily a shift already in, how the how our customers are procuring. And with respect to the types of procurement, I think that's too early to see, after just a couple of weeks with the new administration. But I'm sure we'll start to see some of those impacts.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

But as we think about it, what are some of the areas that we've heard our priorities by the customer? The border, immigration, space, cyber, these are all areas that we have great strength and are currently providing significant support to the government. And as we see further priority on these areas, we would expect to see increased demand as well.

Brian Gesuale
Brian Gesuale
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

Thank you for that color. Maybe I want to talk about pipeline. I appreciate the metrics that you've provided us. Can you maybe just talk about when we think about that pending 30 and submitting 12 and then 35 for the full year, can you give us some shape and context between how that fits between digital solutions and your global engineering business and really how we might think of that from a new business and a recompete standpoint? Thank you.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Hey, Brian, good morning. Travis here. Yes, we were really pleased with the business development results in the first quarter and installed a strong book to bill of 1.1. Excluding the JVs, as John noted in his prepared remarks, we also had a nice joint venture win, continuing the great work we do for the West Valley project. And as John said, on a imputed basis, 1.5 book to bill, including our unconsolidated JVs for the first quarter, so pleased to see that.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

And then as we look forward, that $12,000,000,000 of submits really demonstrated kind of the business development engine is working, propelled us to that $30,000,000,000 in pending awards at the end of the quarter. Roughly two thirds of that is new business to momentum, and it is well kind of split between both the Digital Solutions and Global Engineering segments. And actually, we saw a book to bill above one in both of the segments during the quarter. So, really kind of pleased about the momentum there and the potential outcome we see for those results for the remainder of the year.

Brian Gesuale
Brian Gesuale
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

Yes, the bookings looked really good to me. Maybe just pivoting real quickly and this will be my final one on free cash flow. You came in better than my model. I commend you on executing during the integration phase here. You talked about big fourth quarter collections.

Brian Gesuale
Brian Gesuale
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

Is there any seasonality we should think about in between Q1 and Q4? And certainly would appear you're tracking towards the higher end of your free cash flow expectations for the year given the start?

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Yes, we were really pleased with the cash flow performance in the first quarter. It obviously started with strong operating performance and the contributions from EBITDA, but we also saw DSO perform really well. Actually on kind of a year over year pro form a basis, it was down two days and a little bit better than expectations. So, off to a good start for the fiscal year, obviously gave us confidence to reaffirm our $475,000,000 to $525,000,000 target for the year. Maybe just one thing to remind you on, there is some normal cyclicality, as you mentioned, one of them with our fiscal year aligning with the government fiscal year end, Q4 is always going to be our strongest quarter from a cash flow perspective.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

But also due to the timing of the interest payments on our debt, there's semi annual payments due on our unsecured notes, which is roughly $35,000,000 in the second quarter and the fourth quarter. And then we also have an extra payment just due to the way the months fall on our term loan B in the second quarter and the fourth quarter. So that drives a little bit of variability as well. So generally speaking, we'd expect to see Q2 likely be the low quarter for the year. And then as we've stated in the prior call and kind of reaffirmed today, 2H will be where the vast majority of our free cash flow is generating.

Brian Gesuale
Brian Gesuale
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

Great. Appreciate it guys. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Tobey Sommer at Truist Security. Please go ahead, Tobey.

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Thank you. I was wondering if

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

you could talk about your commercial business. You cited a number of awards. And I'm wondering, what you're seeing there in terms of demand and how the awards that you generated in the quarter would translate into a book to bill if we looked at it on a discrete basis like that?

Steve Arnette
Steve Arnette
COO at Amentum Holdings

Hi, Tobey. Steve Arnett here. Really excited about the momentum in the commercial sector. We talked about that even in as the companies were coming together, we've had a nice trend of growth on the commercial side. We like that sector of the business.

Steve Arnette
Steve Arnette
COO at Amentum Holdings

If you look at the customers we're supporting, it's these are market leaders. They are blue chip commercial companies that are kind of market leaders in their own right. We have good bookings in terms of a few specific areas. One that we're very excited about is we are increasingly helping some of the hyperscalers with being able to enable a next generation of AI. There's a lot of great kind of pioneering work really that we're doing with them to help enable the dramatically increased compute intensity associated with AI and we're really doing a lot of work both to enable and bring that to life.

Steve Arnette
Steve Arnette
COO at Amentum Holdings

So we're excited about the trajectory of that work. In addition to that kind of leading edge work, we are heavily engaged with some of the automotive companies in their product development and product testing helping to bring some of our RDT and E technology from the aerospace world into automotive and we're really helping not only get better results in product testing, but speed their time to market as they continue to develop new products in their portfolio. And then across other industrial leaders, a big move around we're going to call it smart or advanced infrastructure where we're integrating advanced sensors, five gs technology, advanced control algorithms to really improve the management and utilization of their assets. So we don't have a book to bill to share with you, but what we can say is if we went through and tried to piece that together for the recent past, it would certainly be greater than one. So we're very excited about the continued trajectory of the commercial work.

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Thank you. And I appreciate that answer. With respect to news that's just kind

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

of come out in

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

the last day or so, have you heard anything from customers about increased operations

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

in expected in Gaza?

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

And if that were to unfold, using history as our guide, would the company likely play a role in terms of logistics support or some other capacity?

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Yes. I mean, we don't actually get down to that level and talking about what's happening within kind of specific programs or customers. But what I would say is this, our history is replete with, examples where we have supported the U. S. Government around the world, in some of the most important complex missions.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Of course, the world is a dangerous place. We know that there are escalating threats and challenges that need support by the U. S. Government. And we will be there to support the government and that whatever they require.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

We have an advanced capability, I think, that is recognized by our customers and has been one of the key partners to our government both inside and outside The U. S. And we're ready to support them in any way necessary in terms of whatever that strategy the U. S. Government intends to pursue, whether it's in The Middle East or anywhere.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

And Toby, I think it's also important to know just as a follow-up to what John said, just to provide a little bit more clarity on our guide. While we're tracking a lot of these potential opportunities, some of which are could be short term in nature and really approach us quickly and we're actively having discussions with our customers about today, they could provide upside as we move throughout the remainder of their fiscal year. We haven't counted on any of them happening to meet our guidance expectations.

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Appreciate that. Travis, if I could, I know your DSO performed well in the December quarter. But I'm curious, how are payment offices functioning

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

here in recent weeks?

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Just curious with some of the DOGE stuff in the treasury and so forth. Thanks.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Yes. We've seen no slowdown or impact, in terms of payment offices or processing.

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

And my last question is in terms of NASA, kind of hasn't really been in the news with respect to, Doge and a focal point in the initial phases of the administration. What are your thoughts on the resilience of budgets there and the company's activities?

Steve Arnette
Steve Arnette
COO at Amentum Holdings

We feel very good about the work we're doing at NASA. We're proud to be engaged across what I'll call the high priority missions within the NASA portfolio. We have to date seen zero impact to any of the work we're doing supporting the agency. As many people know, one of the real strategic priorities, not just for NASA but for the nation, and in fact for the 53 nations that have signed the Artemis Accords, is to return humans to the surface of the moon. There are certainly exploration objectives there.

Steve Arnette
Steve Arnette
COO at Amentum Holdings

There are strategic objectives for the nation associated with that. And then also, that is a key step in the Moon to Mars program. So we're excited about the Artemis two mission, slated for early twenty six. Our Mentum team working hand in hand with NASA at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. We're processing the majority of that spaceflight hardware, getting ready for that flight.

Steve Arnette
Steve Arnette
COO at Amentum Holdings

We're excited for that one. Artemis three to put humans back on the surface of the moon. And I guess what we say Toby is what we know is the Artemis missions are the only, you know, solution that we have that can safely and soon return humans to the surface of the moon. So we're really excited as those missions continue to accelerate toward execution. But larger than Artemis, our work continues.

Steve Arnette
Steve Arnette
COO at Amentum Holdings

We're excited about the continuing trajectory of that portfolio and, so excited to continue forward in the future.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

And Toby, the other thing I would add on would be that space superiority is could be argued one of the defining strategic objectives of our time. If you think about, where the battle, you know, the battle space is focused of the future, it's in space, it's information and kind of both offensive and defensive space. And I think NASA has a direct relation to that mission and ensuring that The U. S. Leads that going forward, both from a national security standpoint, which probably in my mind the biggest element, but also space exploration as a matter of the future if we think about where mankind is going.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

The other thing, I'm surprised Stephen didn't mention this because he always talks about it is that the NASA work we do also supports the commercial space industry. Without the infrastructure and the support and the capabilities of NASA, our nation's commercial space industry would not be where it is today. And every day when we go to work at NASA and NASA goes to work and we work side by side, we are supporting not only the nation's space program and space, science programs, but we are also supporting commercial space across all different areas, from obviously launch, which, but also engineering, how they operate in space from a human standpoint. So there is a great relationship there between the two, that is critically important to America's superiority in space.

Tobey Sommer
Tobey Sommer
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Next is Ken Herbert at RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead, Ken.

Ken Herbert
Ken Herbert
Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets

Yes. Hi, good morning, Thomas and John. Maybe wanted to start with you nice first quarter fiscal first quarter. When you look at the Digital Solutions and Global Engineering Solutions, the segments, how do we think about the margin progression from here through the rest of fiscal twenty twenty five at a segment level? If you provide some

Ken Herbert
Ken Herbert
Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets

commentary?

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Yes. Ken, good morning. We provide guidance at the enterprise level, not at the segment level, but here's what I would say about the margin profile and trajectory of both of those businesses. As you can see, they're both around the upper 7% margin range today.

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

As we execute the strategic priorities that we laid out at Capital Markets Day, execute on the integration plans that we had in place day one, progress our value capture activities and initiatives, we do see a path to where both segments can have nice EBITDA margin accretion over the medium to long term. And we would expect some slight accretion as we move throughout the year in both segments.

Ken Herbert
Ken Herbert
Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets

Okay. So nothing in particular in one or the other that you call out is particularly sort of needle moving or an opportunity we should think about through the rest of the fiscal year?

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Yes.

Ken Herbert
Ken Herbert
Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets

Okay. And then just as a follow-up, you've given some great color on obviously the activity level. You did call out earlier in the call, I think it was 15 opportunities that are north of $1,000,000,000 that you're pursuing through the end of twenty twenty six. I'm just curious as a point of reference, how does that compare maybe to prior points in time? And how would you think about capture rate on those as many maybe different from sort of your typical pipeline or how that opportunity set could potentially evolve?

Steve Arnette
Steve Arnette
COO at Amentum Holdings

We are excited I mean, we talked about the cement volume in Q1. So I think that's one of the early integration successes is getting the BD engine rolling. So a lot of energy around that. On the $15,000,000,000 plus, the majority of those, to be clear, the incoming businesses know about, but there's a minority of those opportunities that absolutely represent kind of coming to life of the thesis of the merger. These are large major opportunities.

Steve Arnette
Steve Arnette
COO at Amentum Holdings

They tend to be high content advanced engineering capability that the newly merged momentum is well positioned and has the right to win if you will that neither the incoming businesses did. So those fall across defense, intelligence communities, a big major opportunity. So really the new momentum is in a great position to pursue some of those and and they do represent a a minority of those 15 opportunities. So hopefully that helps.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

And and this is

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

a point in time, data point and that we're not stopping. Like over the next two years is we go through '25 and '26. Our objective is to qualify and add additional, opportunities like that to that list. I think it just points to the strength of this business, the confidence of this business and how the customer perceives us as a leader of delivering complex, large, enduring long term contracts. And it's a legacy aspect of both of our businesses that has only been strengthened bringing them together.

Ken Herbert
Ken Herbert
Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets

Perfect. Hey, appreciate all the color. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Trevor Walsh at Citizens JMP. Please go ahead, Trevor.

Trevor Walsh
Director - Equity Research at JMP Securities LLC

Thanks. Good morning, team.

Trevor Walsh
Director - Equity Research at JMP Securities LLC

Thanks for taking the questions. Appreciate it. John, I all the color around kind of these first few weeks with the new administration was great. Was wondering if you could maybe touch on how you think, specifically the changes around personnel and manning changes, really around the headcount and some of the efforts to reduce headcount broadly across the government, could kind of impact the business. I would imagine there could be some potential, I guess, silver linings of that in terms of that potentially frees up people to come work for Omentum and kind of add to your, you know, what is effectively a very people centric business.

Trevor Walsh
Director - Equity Research at JMP Securities LLC

So I wonder if you could just kind of talk through the puts and takes specifically around kind of that piece of what Doge and the like are doing.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Yes. It's interesting when we have the conversation around what's happening. And just in the last week, I was at an event and we were talking about this. The work of the U. S.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Government, its mission and what it has to do on a daily, monthly, annual basis is not changing. What's changing, I think, and what this administration is looking at is how we deliver that scope of work in a more effective and efficient way. So we absolutely support that objective and understand it, but we still have to deliver that quantity of effort that the U. S. Government is responsible for.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

We have to operate a military. We have to operate an intelligence community. We have to operate all the other services that support the citizens in The United States and homeland security. I mean, those things aren't changing. We're not it's not like we're going from three thirty million citizens to 120.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

We still have to deliver services to three thirty million citizens. And doing that in a more efficient way should create opportunities for companies that have the ability to deliver more efficient methods and processes and technology to execute that level of work that still has to get done. And so I understand and I fully it's a noble effort to try to look at how we run government in a most efficient way. But we see the opportunity going forward very clearly that companies that are innovative and bring kind of and bring a century of knowledge of delivering those services can help the government execute the delivery of that those services at a more efficient way. So, we're excited about the prospects to dig in and help with the effort, in terms of what the mission of this new administration is trying to accomplish.

Trevor Walsh
Director - Equity Research at JMP Securities LLC

Great. Terrific. Maybe one more for Travis. You mentioned at the end of your prepared remarks, Travis, the 1% portion or I guess impact from the new administration that's part of the revenue guidance for the year. Could you maybe just dig in a little bit as to how your thoughts are around that assumption and then kind of as a secondary or follow-up to that?

Trevor Walsh
Director - Equity Research at JMP Securities LLC

Is there something that you would see as far as a change or, I guess the ability to maybe remove that 1% impact if you see certain indicators or signals kind of coming through as you progress through the year?

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

Good morning, Trevor. First, I would say, obviously, we acknowledge that the situation is fluid, but we did believe it was important to quantify and be transparent about any potential impacts that we could see based on the information we have today. And as John mentioned, fortunately, the potential impacts are minimal. They're really isolated to work funded kind of in the Department of State focused on coordinated assistance. And we were comfortable, based on the Q1 results, what we're seeing in other parts of the business to reaffirm our full year guidance even with that

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

in mind. But what I

Travis Johnson
Travis Johnson
CFO at Amentum Holdings

would say about our thoughts on what could potentially change that, and I mentioned this a little bit earlier in the Q and A, We haven't factored in any potential upside opportunities that we're actively having discussions with our customers about today that are aligned with the new administration's priorities. So, as those things become to light, become more real as we progress throughout the year, that could change our views of things and we look forward to keeping everybody updated as we progress.

Trevor Walsh
Director - Equity Research at JMP Securities LLC

Great. Thanks so much.

Operator

Thank you. That concludes today's Q and A session. I will turn the call back to Mr. Heller for closing remarks.

John Heller
John Heller
CEO at Amentum Holdings

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for your interest in Omentum. While there's a lot of work still ahead of us as we focus on the future, we are pleased with our progress to date and we look forward to continuing to update you over the coming quarters.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude your conference call for today. Once again, thank you for attending. And at this time, we do ask that you please disconnect your lines.

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    • Nathan Rutledge
      Nathan Rutledge
      Senior VP & Head Investor Relations
    • John Heller
      John Heller
      CEO
    • Travis Johnson
      Travis Johnson
      CFO
    • Steve Arnette
      Steve Arnette
      COO
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