Yum China Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning. My name is Sylvie, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Energizer's First Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 Conference Call. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. And we also ask that out of consideration to other callers on the call today, you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up.

Operator

Also note that this call is being recorded. And I would like to turn the conference over to John Polvin, Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations. You may begin your conference.

Jon Poldan
Jon Poldan
Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations at Energizer

Good morning, and welcome to Energizer's Q1 fiscal 2025 conference call. Joining me today are Mark Levine, President and Chief Executive Officer and John Drabik, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. A replay of this call will be available on the Investor Relations section of our website energizerholdings.com. In addition, a slide deck providing detailed financial results for the quarter is also posted on our website. During the call, we will make forward looking statements about the company's future business and financial performance, among other matters.

Jon Poldan
Jon Poldan
Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations at Energizer

These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially from these statements. We do not undertake to update these forward looking statements. Other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements are included in reports we file with the SEC. We also refer in our presentation to non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of non GAAP financial measures to comparable GAAP measures is shown in our press release issued earlier today, which is available on our website.

Jon Poldan
Jon Poldan
Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations at Energizer

Information concerning our categories and estimated market share discussed in this call relates to the categories where we compete and is based on Energizer's internal data, data from industry analysis and estimates we believe to be reasonable. The battery category information includes both brick and mortar and e commerce retail sales. Unless otherwise noted, all comments regarding the quarter year pertain to Energizer's fiscal year and all comparisons to prior year relate to the same period in fiscal 2024. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Mark.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We had a great start to the year and delivered strong results in our Q1 of fiscal 2025. Specifically, we delivered organic net sales growth of nearly 4%. We expanded adjusted gross margin by 50 basis points. We grew adjusted earnings per share by 14% and we paid down $25,000,000 of debt.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

We entered the year positioned to drive growth through our strategic initiatives and our investments are paying off. We achieved organic growth in batteries of 4% and auto care of 2%. As John will discuss more in a moment, our strong start to the year has given us the confidence to increase our organic sales outlook for the full year. We were able to achieve this growth while continuing to improve our adjusted gross margins, which reached 40% in the quarter. The top line growth and margin expansion have been enabled by Project Momentum, which reestablished our margins and provided us the flexibility to invest.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

With 3 quarters remaining in the program, we expected to enable continued investment in growth as well as margin improvement. The combination of our strong top line performance and margin expansion drove meaningful earnings growth enabling debt reduction for the 10th consecutive quarter. Our results are certainly bolstered by the health of our categories. Battery category volume remained positive both globally and in the U. S.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Importantly, we are seeing improving value trends as well. This is resulting in volume and value converging in a manner consistent with our expectations. The auto category also continued to show growth. We are seeing strong category fundamentals including a steady increase in the age of the car park and a continued consumer shift towards do it yourself car care activities. These category underpinnings combined with international expansion drove solid growth for our brands in the quarter.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

The Q1 highlighted how we are leveraging both project momentum and our strategic growth initiatives. And before turning it over to John, I would like to provide a forward look on how both of these areas look for the rest of the fiscal year. Let's start with Project Momentum. We generated significant savings over the life of this program and this quarter was no exception. Project momentum generated nearly $20,000,000 of savings in the quarter and helped to drive very strong earnings growth.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

There is more to come in the balance of the year and we expect to finish fiscal 2025 with roughly $60,000,000 in total savings for the year and approximately $200,000,000 for the program. We will capitalize on the success of Project Momentum and invest for consistent ongoing growth. We previously identified 5 areas where we expect to capture growth going forward: distribution, pricing and revenue management, market expansion, innovation and digital economy. This quarter demonstrates the progress in several of those areas with the biggest impact in Q1 coming from distribution. In the quarter, we expanded our business with existing customers and won new ones.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

These gains were broad based across channels, both in the U. S. And in international markets. We expect distribution to be a tailwind for the balance of the year. Innovation will also play a big part for us in fiscal 2025.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

On our call last November, we unveiled some of our newest and most innovative product lines, including the Armor All Podium series developed in partnership with Oracle Red Bull Racing. We are pleased to report the early indicators are very positive. We have secured distribution at large retailers across the United States, Australia, UK and more. In total, Podium Series will be on the shelves in more than 15,000 retail locations across the globe. We also expect areas like market expansion, pricing and revenue management and our investments in expanding our digital economy business to drive growth in future quarters and fiscal years.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

The benefit of having this broad based pipeline is that we can invest and build each of them out over time to generate the consistent growth our financial algorithm calls for. We are excited about what we have already seen and the pipeline across each of these areas is very robust. I will wrap up and turn the call over to John. From a high level, we delivered a strong Q1 and entered the Q2 with even greater confidence in our strategic initiatives. Our strong start to the year adds to our confidence that we are executing the right strategies to deliver on our 2025 financial outlook.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

I will now turn it over to John for more details on the quarter and our outlook.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Thanks, Mark, and good morning, everyone. I am pleased to report solid first quarter results with both organic net sales and adjusted earnings per share above the guidance we provided in November and adjusted gross margins in line with our expectations. I will now walk you through our quarterly results in greater detail and update our expectations for the rest of the year. For the quarter, reported net sales were up 2.1% with organic revenue increasing 3.8%. Our battery business posted 4% organic growth driven by distribution gains and $10,000,000 of hurricane related sales, which we noted during last quarter's earnings call.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Even though the Q1 is the smallest quarter for our auto business, we were pleased to see strong organic top line growth of 2% led by distribution gains, international market expansion and digital economy growth, partially offset by an earlier shift in holiday orders. The volume growth in both businesses was partially offset by 1.9 percent of planned pricing and promotional investments in support of the holiday season. Adjusted gross margin increased by 50 basis points to 40%. Project momentum savings of $16,000,000 and an improvement in product input costs were the biggest drivers this quarter. These benefits were partially offset by pricing and promotional investments as well as the negative impact from the strengthening U.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

S. Dollar. Adjusted SG and A as a percent of sales was 16.3% and roughly flat on a dollar basis. A and P as a percent of sales was 7.3% or an increase of $6,400,000 The increase year over year was primarily driven by an increase in investment behind our brands and business to support the key holiday season. Interest expense decreased by $3,700,000 due to lower average debt outstanding.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

We delivered adjusted EBITDA and adjusted earnings per share of $140,700,000 $0.67 representing growth of 6% 14%, respectively. We also generated north of $42,000,000 of free cash flow or nearly 6% of net sales and paid down an additional $25,000,000 of debt. Now turning to our outlook for fiscal 2025. Following our strong operating performance in the Q1, we are raising our full year organic sales guidance to be up 2% to 3% versus our previous call of up 1% to 2%, while reaffirming our adjusted earnings per share and adjusted EBITDA outlooks. We anticipate consistent organic growth throughout the next three quarters, driven by continued distribution gains in both the U.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

S. And international markets as well as strong performance behind multiple new product launches. We also intend to continue investing in pricing and promotional activity, which will partially offset the projected volume gains. The U. S.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Dollar has also continued to strengthen, which at current rates creates a headwind to reported revenue, resulting in reported net sales growth in the range of 1% to 2%. We continue to expect adjusted gross margin expansion of 50 basis points to more than 41%. Project Momentum savings of roughly $60,000,000 and adjusted earnings per share and adjusted EBITDA in our original ranges of $3.45 to $3.65 $625,000,000 to $645,000,000 respectively. We continue to expect debt pay down in the range of $150,000,000 to $200,000,000 and to end 2025 with a net leverage ratio of around 4.5 times. Capital expenditures are still expected to be in the range of $80,000,000 to $90,000,000 driven by our continued investments across IT, operations and our plastic free packaging initiative.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

And we expect free cash flow to be in the range of 8% to 10% of net sales. I would also like to provide some additional color on the Q2. We project organic growth in the range of 2% to 3%, driven largely by distribution gains, new product launches and international growth in our Auto Care business. And we expect reported net sales of flat to up 1% as we continue to see pressure from the strength of the U. S.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Dollar. We anticipate adjusted gross margin to be flat year over year at 40.5% as Project Momentum Savings are expected to be offset by pricing and promotional activity and foreign currency headwinds. We are forecasting adjusted earnings per share in the range of $0.60 to $0.70 compared to $0.72 in the prior year. The decline year over year is primarily being driven by increased investments in digital transformation and growth initiatives. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Mark for closing remarks.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Thanks, John. A great start to the year and we're excited for what's ahead. Project Momentum has delivered strong results providing the necessary flexibility to invest for growth, which we saw come through this quarter. We are operating from a position of strength and have a high level of confidence in our ability to deliver long term value for our shareholders. Now let's open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Thank you. Your first question will be from Bill Chappell at Turist Securities. Please go ahead.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Thanks. Good morning.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Good morning, Bill and Bill.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Hey, first question, the topic du jour on tariffs. I think in U. S, Latin America, Europe, you're fairly local manufacturing for batteries or domestic manufacturing for batteries. And so maybe can you talk about what impact tariffs have? Would it have a benefit, especially as you look at some of your private label competitors that manufacture overseas?

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

And then it's kind of same question for the auto business.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Yes, Bill, I'll start with kind of the exposure. So yes, you hit it. We've really with momentum leaned into end market for market production. So that helps us minimize some of that exposure. And I talked to last quarter, our procurement from China for U.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

S. Consumption is about 5% of our COGS. So it's not huge. If you throw in now Canada and Mexico into the mix, we procure less than 1% of our COGS from those two markets. So not really large.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

I think what the way we're thinking about is we'll continue to mitigate these tariffs by optimizing our sourcing strategy and then anything that we can't get out of the system we're committed to taking pricing.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

And Bill, on the competitive set, when you think about China tariffs or even Mexico tariffs, in particular, some of our competitors do produce including private label is produced in China. So as tariffs would be implemented on those, we would have to see what the details would be, how retailers would react to that, how pricing would react to that and what opportunities there may be as the tariff landscape becomes clearer.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Bill, just to

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

be clear, my numbers were consolidated. So that's battery and automotive.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Got it. And then just maybe characterize the overall I mean, it looks like obviously strong top line results for the quarter and organic growth. Maybe you can kind of characterize the holiday season. Was it as expected? Was it better than expected in terms of the consumer?

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

And how that gives you kind of confidence going forward?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Look, I think it was a solid holiday season for us. I think it was an interesting one in that week. We started in October with us with sort of hurricane tailwinds. November was not a particularly robust month from a consumer standpoint. And then December really turned around nicely with the late holiday season.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

I think you saw different shopping patterns of what you had seen in previous years, but we're really pleased with the way Q1 played out for us. And again, it gave us the confidence to raise our top line outlook for the full year.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Great. Thanks for the color.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Thanks, Bill.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Thanks, Bill.

Operator

Next question will be from Peter Grom at UBS. Please go ahead.

Peter Grom
Peter Grom
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone. Hope you're doing well. So I was just hoping to get some perspective on what you're seeing from kind of an input cost perspective. Obviously, a lot can change just in reference to what Bill was talking about with tariffs.

Peter Grom
Peter Grom
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

But just would love to kind of get an update in terms of what you're seeing across your key cost baskets and how you think about inflation in your kind of gross margin bridge through the balance of the year?

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Yes. Well, we're not seeing a big change from where we were last quarter when we gave the outlook. I would say it's kind of mixed. We continue to see some price some cost pressure on like zinc, copper, nickel, corrugate, some of those areas. But we've got some offsets with things like lithium, silicone and some of the gas that we buy for the auto business.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

So net net, we're calling for a modest benefit from materials and input costs. I think where we are seeing some pressure continues to be on energy and labor. And then we saw a little bit of an uptick in some of the freight rates, especially coming out of Asia over the last quarter or so. So we'll continue to watch that. But we feel good about our call for 50 basis points of improvement for the full year.

Peter Grom
Peter Grom
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

Great. And then just a follow-up on Bill's question or your response to Bill's question just on the competitive landscape and sourcing differences. I mean, do you think this could be an opportunity to gain additional business with these retailers just given the differences? Or do you not really foresee that being kind of an impact to your business kind of down the road?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Peter, I appreciate the question. I think it's an interesting one and when we think about a lot, I do think it's a bit of a multi variable equation that we're trying to solve for there. And a lot of it is going to come down into what the details of any trade tariffs or trade restrictions might be. So I think the details are going to matter in terms of how they play out and what the impact would be. Certainly, it's our job to continue to look at any changes in the landscape and make sure we turn these types of situations into opportunities and we'll continue to work toward that.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

I think first order of business is where John started with Bill's question, which is we have to make sure we mitigate any impact that these may have inside our four walls and make sure that we react accordingly. And then once we've done that, I think it's time to turn around and look to see where we can expand and create opportunities above and beyond that.

Peter Grom
Peter Grom
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

Thanks so much. I'll pass it on.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Thanks, Peter.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Thanks, Peter.

Operator

Next question will be from Andrea Teixeira at JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Shovana Chowdhury
Shovana Chowdhury
Analyst at JP Morgan

Hi, this is Shavana Chaudhary on behalf of Andrea. Thank you for taking our time. You raised the top line, but then you maintained the bottom line. So are you anticipating a higher than expected investments back into the business? And does this mean can you please also elaborate on what you're seeing on the consumer front on behavior with value seeking behavior, like pricing promotion was a negative in the quarter?

Shovana Chowdhury
Shovana Chowdhury
Analyst at JP Morgan

And how do you see this trending the rest of the fiscal year? Thanks.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Sure, Shivan. I'll start with your last question and then I'll turn it over to John for the first part of your question. I think from a consumer standpoint, as you've heard from many of our peers, I think you're seeing a stable but cautious consumer. And I think the level of stability and the caution really depends on where that consumer resides within the income levels. And I think the habits you're seeing out of consumers have been pretty consistent over the last 12 to 18 months, which is they are value seeking and they are looking for innovation, they're looking for value and they will respond accordingly when you deliver that to them.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

So I don't know that the consumer landscape is changing dramatically. It does shift quite a bit with some of the macro events that are occurring. But all in all, I think it's a stable but cautious consumer environment. I think that lends itself well at least from our portfolio because we've got a full portfolio and we have the advantage really meeting consumers where they are and leveraging different brands within our portfolio to make sure we're responding to any needs they may have.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Yes.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

And then I

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

know you asked about the investments, but maybe I'll just talk about the splits for the rest of the year and kind of how we're thinking about the outlook. So 2% to 3% organic top line growth, we expect that to kind of be quarter over quarter for the rest of the year, pretty solid growth as we've got those distribution expansion, good category trends and some of those new product launches that we've talked about. And then we expect when you talk about investments, we do anticipate still having a little bit over 5% on A and P, although I would expect that to be heavy in the second and third quarters as we do those launches. So I think that will be a little bit of an impact that we've talked about today. And then also kind of what I've been talking about for the last couple of quarters, I had given some color to SG and A and some of the investments we've been making on our digital transformation and in some of these growth initiatives.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

That is going to continue to seen in the SG and A number. So we're expecting probably more like $120,000,000 a quarter. So as you kind of think about that going forward, that's more of the run rate. And then the other areas that we kind of gave outlook on whether it was interest, pay that interest reductions or tax rate, all of those are pretty consistent. The other one thing that I would add to that is that we have seen the dollar continue to strengthen.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

And so that's kind of flowing through. So some of the organic growth that we're getting is getting offset by the increase in the dollar.

Shovana Chowdhury
Shovana Chowdhury
Analyst at JP Morgan

Thank you. I'll pass it on.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Rob Ottenstein at Evercore. Please go ahead.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

Great. Thank you very much. You mentioned that the consumer looks pretty stable in terms of behavior. So should we take that to be that there's not much change at this point, at least sequentially in terms of channel, pack size, private

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

label, just want

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

to be kind of specific on those things. And then looking more forward, can you give us any more color about and I know you've touched on it, but any more color on the new distribution? Any way to quantify that? What quarter that comes in? And any color around additional shelf space?

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

Thank you.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Sure, Robert. Let me start to address things. And if I missed one, just let me know. I mean, so I would say color on distribution, all the distribution wins are sort of known decisions built into the consolidated guide that we provided today. It's really broad based.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

It's both in battery that it's in auto, it's in dollar channel, it's in the club channel, it's in the U. S, it's in international market. So really pleased with the distribution gains that we've been able to make as we really focus on those sort of 5 strategic growth initiatives that we have internally. In terms of the consumer question, I would not look consumer is stable, cautious, but embedded in my answer was also the value seeking behavior and that there is a new found muscle that a consumer has, which is they're very comfortable shifting channels. They're very comfortable shifting where they make their purchases.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

And so that's where I think both the consumer as well as correspondingly CPGs have to be very nimble in terms of how they meet consumers with promotions, with innovation and investment to make sure that you're driving the top line sales. So there is a new found muscle that we're seeing out of consumers and I think it's likely here to stay. What questions did I miss, Robert?

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

Yes.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

I think you hit on it, but I would like a follow-up if that's possible. So you mentioned that the distribution gains are very broad based, right? It's kind of across the board, which is terrific. So anyway, number 1, to quantify that in any sort of way. But also, and I think more importantly, can you talk a little bit about what you're doing internally that's working, that's repeatable to get those distribution gains?

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

And is this something that you can kind of expect at this rate in the next few years going forward? Thank you.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Yes. Robert, I'll start with kind of a qualitative view of this and then John can give you sort of what distribution looks like over the balance of the year. But I think what we've done internally is we went about this the right way. We first started with Project Momentum. We had to make sure we recovered the margins in our business.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

We had to make sure that we were building in the flexibility in our P and L to be able to invest. And we've got we've done that with project momentum. About midway through project momentum, we knew that we had to sort of finish the play on the other part of the P and L, which is make sure we get back to consistent growth in top line. And so our algorithm calls for roughly 1% to 2% top line growth year over year basis. That's what I would look for us to achieve.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

And what we've highlighted are sort of those areas, which is a basic blocking and tackling within our business, which is distribution, innovation, pricing and revenue management, market expansion and then digital economy. Those are areas that we've continued to focus on. We focused on them even before we started highlighting them externally. And what that does is it just gives us areas of focus where we can drive that 1% to 2% growth consistently. Now not all 5 of those are going to deliver the exact same every single year.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

So it gives us the ability to invest, to spread the investments out and to make that both in the short, medium and long term so that we do get back to that ratable 1% to 2% growth. And we think these five areas are going to deliver that, not only this year, but in future fiscal years as well. And then John, kind of the quantitative view of things.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Yes, Robert. So I mean the big driver, so Mark's point, in our roll forward this year is distribution, digital commerce growth and then innovation launches. Distribution, we're expecting to kind of generate about 200 basis points of growth this year.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

And is that something as we kind of do our long term model, would kind of 100 to 200 be the right range over the next 3 years, let's say?

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

In total? Yes.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

That's what the financial algorithm calls for. That's right, 1% to 2% per year.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

Right. But coming from distribution specifically?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Well, look, I would not what I would do is that's a consolidated 1% to 2%. I would we're going to pull from these five areas. They may the composition of that growth may change year over year. It could be a heavy digital economy year and a lighter distribution year. We will update that on a quarter basis or even on a fiscal year basis in terms of where we expect the growth to emerge from.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

But I would not build in growth rates for each of these 5. They will in total deliver 1% to 2% on a consistent basis year over year.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

Terrific. Thank you very much.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Thank you, Robert.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Thank you, Robert.

Operator

Next question will be from Brian McNamara at Canaccord Genuity. Please go

Operator

ahead.

Brian McNamara
MD - Senior Analyst Consumer at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets

Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking the question. Don't mean to beat a dead horse on the distribution gains, but it's been a pretty consistent theme over the last several quarters and it's just very difficult to track. So I think you answered some of this already, but are these gains coming as retailers are expanding shelf space to your categories?

Brian McNamara
MD - Senior Analyst Consumer at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets

And if not, who or what are you kind of displacing? Because I know retailers are being pretty selective with shelf space, at least from some of the other companies that I cover. Thank you.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Brian, a bit of a frustrating answer for you probably, but it is really specific to the given retailer. In some instances, we're getting expanded distribution. In some instances, we're getting new distribution. At some point, it's coming from our main competitor versus some it's from more value brands or private label. So we are we do look to drive overall and leverage our full portfolio to do so.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

We built it all into the financial outlook. We saw nearly 4% organic growth this quarter. You're going to see 2% to 3% for the fiscal year. So we're tracking it that way and that's the way we're looking at it. And then I would say in terms of we like to let our brands and our retail partners be the one that show this off and announce this to their shoppers.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

So you're going to see a lot of these things show up in retail, if not already, then very soon.

Brian McNamara
MD - Senior Analyst Consumer at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets

Great. Thank you.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Thanks, Brian.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Thanks, Brian.

Operator

Next question will be from Carla Casella at JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Carla Casella
Carla Casella
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase

Hi. Two follow-up questions and then one question. So the one the follow-up on the sourcing. Can you give us just a little bit more color what key products are made in China or Mexico for both you or the industry? Is it batteries versus lighting versus auto care?

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

For us specifically, a couple of the bigger areas are still lights, which is something that gets produced in China. And then some of the auto components, especially like hoses and gauges, things like that, that we're acquiring out of China. There's some smaller categories around battery, but those 2 are probably the biggest. Yes, and there are some raw materials that we have in China that we'll keep an eye on.

Carla Casella
Carla Casella
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase

Okay. That's great. And then just, you've talked about all your internal potential growth opportunities. Have you looked at or can talk to the M and A environment and whether that would be a pillar for growth as well?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

It's something, Carla, we always look at, and we continue to sort of keep a pulse on what's out there, what's hitting the market. But our emphasis is going to continue to be paid out in the near term, but we'll continue to look on for small bolt on acquisition. And what we're seeing is there's some things out there, but I would not look for anything larger scale from us. I think it would just continue to be on smaller scale, so we can focus on debt pay down.

Carla Casella
Carla Casella
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase

Okay. That's great. Thank you.

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Thanks, Carla.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Thanks, Carla.

Operator

Next, we will hear from William Reuter at Bank of America. Please go ahead.

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

Good morning. My question is on e commerce, one of the 5 growth pillars. Can you talk about where the industry is in terms of penetration in the U. S. And how it is growing relative to the brick and mortar market?

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

And if you're seeing any increases in private label competition in that channel?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

E commerce continues to be a source of growth in our categories. And I think overall, I would say you are seeing stable shares from a private label premium standpoint. And so you're not seeing any shift to private label, but you are seeing nice growth opportunities both in the U. S. And in international markets.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

For our aspirations for this year is we talked about it in November, roughly 30% growth in that business for us in fiscal 2025. So we're certainly going to participate in and exceed the category growth that we're seeing in e commerce.

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

Got it. And then secondarily, the pricing and promo that you're investing, is that related to the new distribution? And is it somewhat one time ish in nature such that once you lap those promotional offers that you've given the customers, if you retain the shelf space, you could have some gross margin expansion in fiscal year 'twenty six?

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Yes, there is some related to the new distribution and the new product launches. I think the way we're thinking about it this year, Bill, is that we're looking at about 100 basis points overall for the full year, but I expect that to be more front end loaded from the holiday and then work our way down to less investment as we get to the back end of the year.

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

Got it. So just to

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

be clear, the increase in promotions, that's a headwind to gross margins when you said the 100 basis points or what is what did that refer to quantitatively?

John Drabik
John Drabik
EVP & CFO at Energizer

Yes, yes, that is that would fall through into our margin. That's top line. We've got about 100 basis points of pricing investment. I think for the margin that probably turns into about 70 basis points for the full year.

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

Got it. That makes sense. Okay. I'll pass to others. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And at this time, Mr. Levine, we have no other questions.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President & Chief Executive Officer at Energizer

Please proceed. Thanks for joining us today, your interest in Energizer. I hope everyone has a great rest of the day.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this does indeed conclude your conference call for today. Once again, thank you for attending. And at this time, we ask that you please disconnect your lines.

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