NASDAQ:KTCC Key Tronic Q2 2025 Earnings Report $2.46 -0.10 (-3.71%) As of 04/25/2025 04:00 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings History Key Tronic EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.38Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AKey Tronic Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AKey Tronic Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date2/4/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, February 4, 2025Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsKey Tronic's Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Key Tronic Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 4, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Keytronic Q2 Fiscal Year twenty five Investor Call. Today's conference is being recorded. After the presentation, we will begin the question and answer period. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Tony Voorhees. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:00:17Good afternoon, everyone. I am Tony Voorhees, Chief Financial Officer of Key Tronic. I'd like to thank everyone for joining us today for our investor conference call. Joining me here in our Spokane Valley headquarters is Brett Larson, our President and Chief Executive Officer. As always, I would like to remind you that during the course of this call, we might make projections or other forward looking statements regarding future events or the company's future financial performance. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:00:49Please remember that such statements are only predictions. Actual events or results may differ materially. For more information, you may review the risk factors outlined in the documents the company has filed with the SEC, specifically our latest 10 K, quarterly 10 Qs and eight Ks. Please note that on this call, we will discuss historical financial and other statistical information regarding our business and operations. Some of this information is included in today's press release. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:01:25During this call, we will also reference slides that accompany our discussion. These slides can be viewed with the webcast and the link can be found on our Investor Relations website. In addition, the slides together with the recorded version of this call will be available on the Investor Relations section of our website. We will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures on this call. Additional information about these non GAAP measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are provided in today's press release, which is posted to the Investor Relations section of our website. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:02:08For the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five, we reported total revenue of $113,900,000 compared to $147,800,000 in the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four. The lower than anticipated revenue and earnings for the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five are primarily due to the impact from unexpected shortages from specific components managed by a large customer, lower than expected production during the holiday season and reduced demand from certain customers, which together lowered revenue by approximately $15,000,000 for the quarter. For the first six months of fiscal twenty twenty five, our total revenue was $245,400,000 compared to $298,000,000 in the same period of fiscal twenty twenty four. Subsequent to the end of the second quarter, we resolved the component shortages allowing production to resume. Gross margins were 6.8% and operating margins were negative 1% in the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five compared to eight percent and two point seven percent respectively in the same period of fiscal twenty twenty four. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:03:33The decline in margins for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five primarily reflects the unexpected reduction of revenue. In coming quarters, we anticipate margins to be strengthened by higher revenue levels, improved operating efficiencies and the continued benefits of our strategic cost savings initiatives. As production volumes increase and our recent operational adjustments take full effect, we expect to see greater leverage on fixed costs, enhanced productivity and a more streamlined supply chain, all contributing to stronger financial performance. That said, the recently announced tariffs on China and potential tariffs on Mexico create significant uncertainties about costs and our margin performance in coming quarters. As previously announced, our interest expense also included approximately $1,000,000 in write offs of unamortized loan fees related to refinancing our debt with a new lender. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:04:47The new asset based financing agreement provides up to $115,000,000 of available credit of which $76,000,000 was borrowed at the end of the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five. This new financing arrangement will position us for growth by providing increased access to working capital over the next five years and ensuring the liquidity needed to support our long term growth plans. Additionally, we anticipate these new facilities will lower our interest expense and provide greater financial flexibility moving forward. Our net loss was $4,900,000 or $0.46 per share for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five compared to net income of $1,100,000 or $0.1 per share for the same period of fiscal twenty twenty four. For the first six months of fiscal twenty twenty five, our net loss was $33,800,000 or $0.35 per share compared to net income of $1,400,000 or $0.13 per share for Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:06:04the same period of fiscal twenty twenty four. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:06:09Our adjusted net loss was $4,100,000 or $0.38 per share for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five compared to adjusted net income of $1,100,000 or $0.1 per share for the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four. The adjusted net loss was $2,900,000 or $0.27 for the first six months of fiscal '20 '20 '5 compared to adjusted net income of $1,200,000 or $0.11 per share for the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four. See the non GAAP financial measures in our earnings release and the appendix to the slide deck for additional information about adjusted net income and adjusted net income per share. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five by reducing inventory by approximately $23,000,000 or 19% from the same time a year ago. These improvements in inventory levels primarily reflect our considered effort to drive inventory reductions and increased industry wide component availability. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:07:25We're pleased to see our inventory levels continue to become more in line with current revenue. At the same time, the state of the worldwide supply chain still requires that we drive demand for parts differently than in historical periods. Our customers have revamped their forecasting methodologies and we have significantly modified and improved our materials resource planning algorithms. As a result, we should be better equipped for future disruptions in the supply chain even as we continue to manage inventory more cost effectively. During the second quarter, we also reduced our total liabilities by a combined amount of $38,000,000 or 15% from a year ago. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:08:14Our current ratio was 2.8:one compared to 2.6:one a year ago. At the same time, accounts receivable DSOs were at ninety nine days compared to eighty three days a year ago, reflecting reductions in net sales at higher rates than reductions in receivables. Total capital expenditures were about 800,000 for the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five. And we're expecting CapEx for the full year to be approximately $8,000,000 to $10,000,000 A significant part of this year's capital expenditures will be related to our planned expansions and capacity and capabilities of our Arkansas and Vietnam locations. While we're keeping a careful eye on CapEx, we plan to continue to invest selectively in our production equipment, SMT equipment and plastic molding capabilities, utilize leasing facilities as well as make efficiency improvements to prepare for growth. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:09:24Moving further into fiscal twenty twenty five, we are pleased to continue to see our new programs ramping, cost and efficiency improvements from our recent overhead reductions taking hold. At the same time, we face reduced demand from certain long standing customers. Our industry also faces great uncertainties related to the new tariff increases for China and the potential increases for tariffs in Mexico. While we do anticipate new tariffs to increase costs for both us and our customers, the current economic and political uncertainty makes it difficult to accurately quantify the full impact at this time. Taking all these factors into consideration, we will not be issuing revenue or earnings guidance for the third quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:10:20We expect to see growth in our U. S. And Vietnam production, have a strong pipeline of potential new business and remain focused on improving our profitability. Over the longer term, we believe that we are increasingly well positioned to win new programs and profitably expand our business. That's it for me. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:10:39Brett? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:10:40Thanks, Tony. While we're disappointed with the unexpected decline in revenue in the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five, we expect our revenue and earnings to recover in the third quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five as strategic initiatives undertaken in previous quarters come to fruition. We're actively streamlining our international and domestic operations with further headcount reductions to enhance efficiency, building on similar actions a year ago. We're also pleased to see our inventory levels being more in line with current revenue levels and expect that these strategic changes will improve our overall profitability. Moreover, we're significantly increasing our production capacity in Arkansas and Vietnam in order to continue to benefit from the growing customer demand for onshoring their contract manufacturing and is also expected to help mitigate the adverse impact and uncertainties surrounding the recently announced potential tariffs on goods manufactured in China and Mexico. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:11:49During the second quarter, we continue to win new programs involving aerospace systems and energy resiliency technology, which was recently announced. The program is expected to begin manufacturing in the second half of twenty twenty five. Once fully ramped, we believe its annual revenue could exceed $60,000,000 This important new strategic relationship represents an expansion of our customer base and we expect it will contribute to profitable long term growth. Our strong pipeline of potential new business underscores the continued trend towards onshoring and dual sourcing of contract manufacturing. We expect that global logistics problems, China U. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:12:37S. Geopolitical tensions and the recent threat of tariffs on Mexico and China will continue to drive OEMs to re examine their traditional outsource strategies. We believe these customers increasingly realize that they have become overly dependent on their China based contract manufacturers for not only product, but also for design and logistics services. Over time, the decision to onshore production is becoming more widely accepted as a smart long term strategy. At the same time, we're seeing a sustained trend of continued wage increases in Mexico. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:13:20As Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:13:20it Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:13:20has become clear that these changes in the base cost of Mexico are long standing, we have right sized our operations in order to remain cost competitive. As a result, we see opportunities for growth and those opportunities are becoming more clearly defined. As customers are very excited about our plans to increase our production capabilities in The U. S. And in Vietnam, these initiatives reflect both the long standing trends in nearshore production away from China and may also help address potential adverse impact of tariff increases. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:13:59Our U. S. Based production provides customers with outstanding flexibility, engineering support and ease of communications. In Arkansas, the company has signed a new lease to significantly increase the size of its current manufacturing footprint by June 2025. Our Vietnam based production offers the high quality, low cost choice that was associated with China in the past. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:14:25In Vietnam, we have ample space in our current facility to double our manufacturing capacity by September 2025 with a significant investment in capital equipment. In coming years, we expect our Vietnam facility to play a major role in our growth. In the coming months, we look forward to sharing more details about these two specific expansions. The combination of our global footprint and our expansive design capabilities is proving to be extremely effective in capturing new business. Many of our large and medium sized manufacturing program wins are predicated on Key Tronic's deep and broad design services. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:15:09And once we have completed the design and ramped it into production, we believe our knowledge of a program specific design challenges makes that business extremely sticky. We anticipate continued increase in the number and capability of our design engineers in coming quarters. We also continue to invest in vertical integration and manufacturing process knowledge, including a wide range of plastic molding, injection, blast, blow injection, blow gas assist, multi shot, as well as PCB assembly, metal forming, painting and coating, complex high volume automated assembly and the design, construction and operation of complicated test equipment. We believe this expertise will increasingly set us apart from our competitors of a similar size. We believe that the global logistics problems, China U. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:16:09S. Political tensions and heightened concerns about tariffs and supply chains will continue to drive the favorable trend of contract manufacturing returning to North America, as well as to our expanding Vietnam facilities. We continue to see improvement across the metrics associated with business development, including a significant increase in the number of active quotes with prospective customers. While unexpected component shortages, lower than expected production during the holiday season and reduced demand from certain customers hammered our revenues and profitability in the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five. We move further into fiscal twenty twenty five with a strong pipeline of potential new business and we're seeing significant improvements in our operating efficiencies and direction and potential for profitable growth over the longer term. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:17:20This concludes the formal portion of our presentation and Tony and I will now be pleased to answer your questions. Thank Operator00:17:53Your first question comes from the line of Bill Dezellem with Tieton Capital. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:17:59Thank you. Brett, may I please start with kind of my normal first question. With these two wins, what's the size of I guess it would be one that you have not talked about in detail and the timing for its production ramping? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:18:17Sure. Yes. The aerospace opportunity is going to start out at a $5,000,000 program, Bill, but there is potential for that to grow over time. The other is that is expected to begin ramping in the latter half of this calendar year, so probably the September, October timeframe. The second one, of course, we shared the energy resiliency technology. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:18:45Our plans are still to have that begin ramping as well in the latter half of this calendar year. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:18:55That's helpful. And then you referenced both in your pre announcement and today the component shortages. I guess I haven't heard about components being short any longer. Can you talk about how component shortages actually or a component shortage has taken place and the how or why that that is an issue now? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:19:23You bet. We intended to and we attempted to try to delineate that by saying it was a specific set of components. I don't see any real component shortages across our market, but this was a real specific set that unfortunately was being driven by one of our larger customers. And unfortunately that specific set of components became in high demand at a very quick pace and it disrupted kind of slid that production into this quarter rather than being able to build it last quarter. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:20:06Okay. Back up there for me. Did you just say that the there was high demand that led to the shortage? And if so, high demand from your customer or industry at large? And I guess, did I hear that right? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:20:22Yes, with industry at large. So it's a specific set of components that unfortunately was not available when they attempted to try to bring that in for our production. That has been since resolved and just began resuming production on that line again the last couple of weeks. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:20:45Thanks Brett. So just that imply that this customer, I mean, even though they created a problem with your revenues this quarter that their business has either does have or has the potential for significant growth given what you just described about the industry that they're in is strong? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:21:10Yes, there is. There is some potential long term growth. And might I mention as well, we have proposed going to a full turnkey procurement as well, so that we can manage that supply chain and hope to avoid these type of hiccups in the future. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:21:29Okay. Thank you. And then let's talk tariffs for a moment, if we could please. What has been the commentary or mindset of your customers that are currently in Mexico with you about that production there and just kind of walk through the dynamics there, if you would please. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:21:57Sure. I think we initially, I think we all thought that this was some leverage, some attempt by the current administration to get some leverage with Mexico on specific things that they're asking for. Then it became fairly evident and I think scared all of us over the weekend that this might become a real tariff that everyone needs to dealt with. Since that time, of course, there's been a pause for thirty days on this specific tariff to Mexico. But that really has frankly freaked out a lot of our customers. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:22:35I think a lot of them are reflecting on how a stroke of a pen can change the cost dynamics from outsourcing to Mexico, which has been in the past something that's been fairly stable and predictable. So I think that it's not just the tariff, but I think it's as well the mindset of our customers trying to figure out how much of a risk building things in Mexico may cause on their own profitability. As we look at that, we offer some solutions. I don't think there's any perfect solution in this type of scenario, but that's one of the reasons why we wanted to share with the market our expansion into our domestic Arkansas facility and then also the strategic direction of continuing to build Vietnam into a larger part of our of what it contributes each and every quarter. While there might not be any silver bullet to avoid all tariffs, I think each and every program has its nuances that one of those locations may be better than another in total cost set. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:24:10Great. That is helpful. And relative to your large win that you announced, would you talk around as much detail around that as you can, please? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:24:29Yes. For now, they've asked us to keep that anonymous, but we're sure excited about it and really has opened up a new industry for us. And since that time, we've actually even entered into a lot of different other quote opportunities within the power and technology and utility space. Super excited about this particular product. It's out in the market today and we're excited to be able to grow with this company as they've seen an increased demand. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:25:14Okay, Brett, if you will please allow me to be pointed here with a question. You all in the past have had other large wins that you have announced and ultimately haven't had a permanently meaningful benefit to the company. I mean, if we add $60,000,000 to revenues, that's a pretty big number. What gives you confidence that this actually does lead to a real meaningful increase and essentially a game changer for you all rather than having something go haywire with it as some of the others have. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:26:00Sure. I think it really hinges on the fact that they are well financed for one. Two is the actual product is a market disruptor. And from what we see and from our vantage point, there's going to be some significant demand for this particular product. And then three, it's already out in the market and functioning as intended. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:26:28So I think with those three things, we feel more confident at this point that this will really be a great program for us. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:26:39Great. Thank you for that perspective. I'll step back in line and if there are others that have questions, I'll wait for them. Thank you. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:26:49Thanks, Bill. Operator00:26:50Thank you. We will take our next question from George Melas with MKH Management. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:26:59Thank you. Hello, Brad. Good morning. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:27:02Hey. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:27:03Hey, George. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:27:05Just a few follow-up on Bill's question With that new win in the energy resiliency space, is that a product that is partly manufactured in house by your customer and you are taking over that production or you're becoming a second stowage of production? How does that work? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:27:39Yes, George, we need to be careful on how much we share with that, but they're currently outsourcing it today and looking for a larger contract manager or contract manufacturer with a global footprint. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:27:55Okay, okay, great. I won't ask much more there. Question on inventory, I think you noted quite correctly that the inventory over the last year has gone down. But I think that you had seven quarters of reduction and that in this particular quarter, the trend was reversed. So I imagine that's partly because of product that could not ship. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:28:25But how do you see that trending in the second half of the fiscal year? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:28:33Yes. So absolutely, that's exactly what happened. The reason that our trend of continued inventory reduction flipped this last quarter, the second quarter, of course, we missed on roughly $15,000,000 to $20,000,000 in revenue. And a large part of that of those components were already en route. So that was the reason for the slight uptick in overall inventory. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:29:01My expectation is that inventory turns from what they are today will continue to improve. Now my hope is the revenue continues to increase throughout the rest of the calendar year, so that inventory will flex with that, but our terms still should improve. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:29:27Okay. Okay, very good. And do you still have a fair amount of the inventory that's not on the balance sheet that's actually formed by customers? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:29:38Yes, we do. There's as we spoke before at the point in time components age. So they're in our warehouse for let's just say ninety days, then contractually we actually invoice customer for those. So yes, we still have quite a bit of that. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:29:57Okay, great. Okay. Trying to understand the gross profit and the gross margin. And there was a drop in the gross profit that was $5,600,000 And I'm trying to do a calculation and help me if that makes sense. So the last time that you reported your cost of material, George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:30:23it was George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:30:23roughly 62% of revenue that was in 2018, '20 '19. So I'm doing the same math and I'm basically saying on revenue drop sequentially of $18,000,000 the approximate trillion down roughly 11. And then in order to get to that $6,000,000 of decline in gross profit, it means your productivity and support went down roughly $1,000,000 So it seems like the fixed parts of the manufacturing costs hardly removed at all despite the big drop in revenue. And that very small drop in production and support was facilitated by a drop in the peso business versus the dollar. So I'm trying to understand how that moves forward because well, first of all, maybe are those numbers, wallet numbers make sense? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:31:35Yes, I think those are directionally correct, George. And unfortunately, in a very short timeframe, most of that production and overhead cost is pretty fixed. Now we can make changes to that. And I think Tony mentioned that we actually we made some additional headcount reductions in January. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:31:59Okay. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:31:59But from a short period or within a quarter's time, most of that production cost is pretty fixed. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:32:09Okay. So that's reflected in those numbers. Okay, very good. And then just looking at your revenue, you sort of look at our guidance because of the uncertainty as you said. So what are the three factors that really impacted you in the December quarter? George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:32:28The production hiccups related to the holiday period and the component shortage, both of those factors seem to be not recurring at least for the entire month of March, maybe the components for some of them we made sure. So we should see a nice pickup. Is that and are you guys not guiding because of concerns about getting the top line right or is it more about the profitability? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:33:02At this point, just coming off of a crazy weekend where many of our customers are still trying to digest, hey, we were going to have to pay a 25 tariff on anything coming into Mexico. And there's again, there is currently a 10% on the table for additional 10% on things coming in from China. They're still trying to digest that and will there be any shifts in either bringing product in quicker or will there be some delays of asking us to delay some shipments? So it's kind of both. It's really will there be any real big shifts in our customers' demands because of that or because of what results in thirty day time. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:33:58There's just a lot in the air right now. Contractually, if a tariff were to be enacted, that is a cost that we would pass on to our customer. Now, does that still are we still competitive with other contract manufacturers and those types of things? On the surface, you'd say, yes, because everyone is impacted the same, but it could force some additional competition and or transfers of legacy products maybe in internal or to another Centimeters. So all of those things that we just we felt comfortable to go ahead and pull the guidance for top line and bottom line. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:34:47As you saw in quarter two, the bottom line is so drastically impacted on your revenue because we have so much in fixed cost. So we'll readdress that in a quarter. But I'm hoping between now and then things settle back down to where we have a good and solid predictable revenue stream and then we'll get back to offering guidance. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:35:21Very good. Okay. I'll go back in the queue. Thank you. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:35:25Thank you. Operator00:35:27Thank Operator00:35:33you. And at this time, we have no additional questions. I will now turn the call back to Mr. Larson for any additional or closing remarks. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:35:55Thank you again for participating in today's conference call. Tony and I look forward to speaking to you again in next quarter. Operator00:36:07This does conclude today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesAnthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & SecretaryBrett LarsenPresident & CEOAnalystsBill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital ManagementGeorge Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management CompanyPowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallKey Tronic Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipants Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Key Tronic Earnings HeadlinesKey Tronic Corporation Announces Third Quarter Reporting DateApril 22, 2025 | globenewswire.comKey Tronic (NASDAQ:KTCC) Now Covered by StockNews.comApril 22, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comTrump’s tariffs just split the AI market in twoTrump’s tariff just split the AI market – among others – in two. One group of AI companies—the ones relying on cheap foreign hardware—just saw their costs shoot through the roof. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Keytronic Q2 Fiscal Year twenty five Investor Call. Today's conference is being recorded. After the presentation, we will begin the question and answer period. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Tony Voorhees. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:00:17Good afternoon, everyone. I am Tony Voorhees, Chief Financial Officer of Key Tronic. I'd like to thank everyone for joining us today for our investor conference call. Joining me here in our Spokane Valley headquarters is Brett Larson, our President and Chief Executive Officer. As always, I would like to remind you that during the course of this call, we might make projections or other forward looking statements regarding future events or the company's future financial performance. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:00:49Please remember that such statements are only predictions. Actual events or results may differ materially. For more information, you may review the risk factors outlined in the documents the company has filed with the SEC, specifically our latest 10 K, quarterly 10 Qs and eight Ks. Please note that on this call, we will discuss historical financial and other statistical information regarding our business and operations. Some of this information is included in today's press release. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:01:25During this call, we will also reference slides that accompany our discussion. These slides can be viewed with the webcast and the link can be found on our Investor Relations website. In addition, the slides together with the recorded version of this call will be available on the Investor Relations section of our website. We will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures on this call. Additional information about these non GAAP measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are provided in today's press release, which is posted to the Investor Relations section of our website. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:02:08For the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five, we reported total revenue of $113,900,000 compared to $147,800,000 in the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four. The lower than anticipated revenue and earnings for the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five are primarily due to the impact from unexpected shortages from specific components managed by a large customer, lower than expected production during the holiday season and reduced demand from certain customers, which together lowered revenue by approximately $15,000,000 for the quarter. For the first six months of fiscal twenty twenty five, our total revenue was $245,400,000 compared to $298,000,000 in the same period of fiscal twenty twenty four. Subsequent to the end of the second quarter, we resolved the component shortages allowing production to resume. Gross margins were 6.8% and operating margins were negative 1% in the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five compared to eight percent and two point seven percent respectively in the same period of fiscal twenty twenty four. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:03:33The decline in margins for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five primarily reflects the unexpected reduction of revenue. In coming quarters, we anticipate margins to be strengthened by higher revenue levels, improved operating efficiencies and the continued benefits of our strategic cost savings initiatives. As production volumes increase and our recent operational adjustments take full effect, we expect to see greater leverage on fixed costs, enhanced productivity and a more streamlined supply chain, all contributing to stronger financial performance. That said, the recently announced tariffs on China and potential tariffs on Mexico create significant uncertainties about costs and our margin performance in coming quarters. As previously announced, our interest expense also included approximately $1,000,000 in write offs of unamortized loan fees related to refinancing our debt with a new lender. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:04:47The new asset based financing agreement provides up to $115,000,000 of available credit of which $76,000,000 was borrowed at the end of the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five. This new financing arrangement will position us for growth by providing increased access to working capital over the next five years and ensuring the liquidity needed to support our long term growth plans. Additionally, we anticipate these new facilities will lower our interest expense and provide greater financial flexibility moving forward. Our net loss was $4,900,000 or $0.46 per share for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five compared to net income of $1,100,000 or $0.1 per share for the same period of fiscal twenty twenty four. For the first six months of fiscal twenty twenty five, our net loss was $33,800,000 or $0.35 per share compared to net income of $1,400,000 or $0.13 per share for Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:06:04the same period of fiscal twenty twenty four. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:06:09Our adjusted net loss was $4,100,000 or $0.38 per share for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five compared to adjusted net income of $1,100,000 or $0.1 per share for the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four. The adjusted net loss was $2,900,000 or $0.27 for the first six months of fiscal '20 '20 '5 compared to adjusted net income of $1,200,000 or $0.11 per share for the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four. See the non GAAP financial measures in our earnings release and the appendix to the slide deck for additional information about adjusted net income and adjusted net income per share. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five by reducing inventory by approximately $23,000,000 or 19% from the same time a year ago. These improvements in inventory levels primarily reflect our considered effort to drive inventory reductions and increased industry wide component availability. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:07:25We're pleased to see our inventory levels continue to become more in line with current revenue. At the same time, the state of the worldwide supply chain still requires that we drive demand for parts differently than in historical periods. Our customers have revamped their forecasting methodologies and we have significantly modified and improved our materials resource planning algorithms. As a result, we should be better equipped for future disruptions in the supply chain even as we continue to manage inventory more cost effectively. During the second quarter, we also reduced our total liabilities by a combined amount of $38,000,000 or 15% from a year ago. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:08:14Our current ratio was 2.8:one compared to 2.6:one a year ago. At the same time, accounts receivable DSOs were at ninety nine days compared to eighty three days a year ago, reflecting reductions in net sales at higher rates than reductions in receivables. Total capital expenditures were about 800,000 for the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five. And we're expecting CapEx for the full year to be approximately $8,000,000 to $10,000,000 A significant part of this year's capital expenditures will be related to our planned expansions and capacity and capabilities of our Arkansas and Vietnam locations. While we're keeping a careful eye on CapEx, we plan to continue to invest selectively in our production equipment, SMT equipment and plastic molding capabilities, utilize leasing facilities as well as make efficiency improvements to prepare for growth. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:09:24Moving further into fiscal twenty twenty five, we are pleased to continue to see our new programs ramping, cost and efficiency improvements from our recent overhead reductions taking hold. At the same time, we face reduced demand from certain long standing customers. Our industry also faces great uncertainties related to the new tariff increases for China and the potential increases for tariffs in Mexico. While we do anticipate new tariffs to increase costs for both us and our customers, the current economic and political uncertainty makes it difficult to accurately quantify the full impact at this time. Taking all these factors into consideration, we will not be issuing revenue or earnings guidance for the third quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:10:20We expect to see growth in our U. S. And Vietnam production, have a strong pipeline of potential new business and remain focused on improving our profitability. Over the longer term, we believe that we are increasingly well positioned to win new programs and profitably expand our business. That's it for me. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:10:39Brett? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:10:40Thanks, Tony. While we're disappointed with the unexpected decline in revenue in the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five, we expect our revenue and earnings to recover in the third quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five as strategic initiatives undertaken in previous quarters come to fruition. We're actively streamlining our international and domestic operations with further headcount reductions to enhance efficiency, building on similar actions a year ago. We're also pleased to see our inventory levels being more in line with current revenue levels and expect that these strategic changes will improve our overall profitability. Moreover, we're significantly increasing our production capacity in Arkansas and Vietnam in order to continue to benefit from the growing customer demand for onshoring their contract manufacturing and is also expected to help mitigate the adverse impact and uncertainties surrounding the recently announced potential tariffs on goods manufactured in China and Mexico. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:11:49During the second quarter, we continue to win new programs involving aerospace systems and energy resiliency technology, which was recently announced. The program is expected to begin manufacturing in the second half of twenty twenty five. Once fully ramped, we believe its annual revenue could exceed $60,000,000 This important new strategic relationship represents an expansion of our customer base and we expect it will contribute to profitable long term growth. Our strong pipeline of potential new business underscores the continued trend towards onshoring and dual sourcing of contract manufacturing. We expect that global logistics problems, China U. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:12:37S. Geopolitical tensions and the recent threat of tariffs on Mexico and China will continue to drive OEMs to re examine their traditional outsource strategies. We believe these customers increasingly realize that they have become overly dependent on their China based contract manufacturers for not only product, but also for design and logistics services. Over time, the decision to onshore production is becoming more widely accepted as a smart long term strategy. At the same time, we're seeing a sustained trend of continued wage increases in Mexico. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:13:20As Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:13:20it Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:13:20has become clear that these changes in the base cost of Mexico are long standing, we have right sized our operations in order to remain cost competitive. As a result, we see opportunities for growth and those opportunities are becoming more clearly defined. As customers are very excited about our plans to increase our production capabilities in The U. S. And in Vietnam, these initiatives reflect both the long standing trends in nearshore production away from China and may also help address potential adverse impact of tariff increases. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:13:59Our U. S. Based production provides customers with outstanding flexibility, engineering support and ease of communications. In Arkansas, the company has signed a new lease to significantly increase the size of its current manufacturing footprint by June 2025. Our Vietnam based production offers the high quality, low cost choice that was associated with China in the past. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:14:25In Vietnam, we have ample space in our current facility to double our manufacturing capacity by September 2025 with a significant investment in capital equipment. In coming years, we expect our Vietnam facility to play a major role in our growth. In the coming months, we look forward to sharing more details about these two specific expansions. The combination of our global footprint and our expansive design capabilities is proving to be extremely effective in capturing new business. Many of our large and medium sized manufacturing program wins are predicated on Key Tronic's deep and broad design services. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:15:09And once we have completed the design and ramped it into production, we believe our knowledge of a program specific design challenges makes that business extremely sticky. We anticipate continued increase in the number and capability of our design engineers in coming quarters. We also continue to invest in vertical integration and manufacturing process knowledge, including a wide range of plastic molding, injection, blast, blow injection, blow gas assist, multi shot, as well as PCB assembly, metal forming, painting and coating, complex high volume automated assembly and the design, construction and operation of complicated test equipment. We believe this expertise will increasingly set us apart from our competitors of a similar size. We believe that the global logistics problems, China U. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:16:09S. Political tensions and heightened concerns about tariffs and supply chains will continue to drive the favorable trend of contract manufacturing returning to North America, as well as to our expanding Vietnam facilities. We continue to see improvement across the metrics associated with business development, including a significant increase in the number of active quotes with prospective customers. While unexpected component shortages, lower than expected production during the holiday season and reduced demand from certain customers hammered our revenues and profitability in the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five. We move further into fiscal twenty twenty five with a strong pipeline of potential new business and we're seeing significant improvements in our operating efficiencies and direction and potential for profitable growth over the longer term. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:17:20This concludes the formal portion of our presentation and Tony and I will now be pleased to answer your questions. Thank Operator00:17:53Your first question comes from the line of Bill Dezellem with Tieton Capital. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:17:59Thank you. Brett, may I please start with kind of my normal first question. With these two wins, what's the size of I guess it would be one that you have not talked about in detail and the timing for its production ramping? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:18:17Sure. Yes. The aerospace opportunity is going to start out at a $5,000,000 program, Bill, but there is potential for that to grow over time. The other is that is expected to begin ramping in the latter half of this calendar year, so probably the September, October timeframe. The second one, of course, we shared the energy resiliency technology. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:18:45Our plans are still to have that begin ramping as well in the latter half of this calendar year. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:18:55That's helpful. And then you referenced both in your pre announcement and today the component shortages. I guess I haven't heard about components being short any longer. Can you talk about how component shortages actually or a component shortage has taken place and the how or why that that is an issue now? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:19:23You bet. We intended to and we attempted to try to delineate that by saying it was a specific set of components. I don't see any real component shortages across our market, but this was a real specific set that unfortunately was being driven by one of our larger customers. And unfortunately that specific set of components became in high demand at a very quick pace and it disrupted kind of slid that production into this quarter rather than being able to build it last quarter. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:20:06Okay. Back up there for me. Did you just say that the there was high demand that led to the shortage? And if so, high demand from your customer or industry at large? And I guess, did I hear that right? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:20:22Yes, with industry at large. So it's a specific set of components that unfortunately was not available when they attempted to try to bring that in for our production. That has been since resolved and just began resuming production on that line again the last couple of weeks. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:20:45Thanks Brett. So just that imply that this customer, I mean, even though they created a problem with your revenues this quarter that their business has either does have or has the potential for significant growth given what you just described about the industry that they're in is strong? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:21:10Yes, there is. There is some potential long term growth. And might I mention as well, we have proposed going to a full turnkey procurement as well, so that we can manage that supply chain and hope to avoid these type of hiccups in the future. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:21:29Okay. Thank you. And then let's talk tariffs for a moment, if we could please. What has been the commentary or mindset of your customers that are currently in Mexico with you about that production there and just kind of walk through the dynamics there, if you would please. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:21:57Sure. I think we initially, I think we all thought that this was some leverage, some attempt by the current administration to get some leverage with Mexico on specific things that they're asking for. Then it became fairly evident and I think scared all of us over the weekend that this might become a real tariff that everyone needs to dealt with. Since that time, of course, there's been a pause for thirty days on this specific tariff to Mexico. But that really has frankly freaked out a lot of our customers. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:22:35I think a lot of them are reflecting on how a stroke of a pen can change the cost dynamics from outsourcing to Mexico, which has been in the past something that's been fairly stable and predictable. So I think that it's not just the tariff, but I think it's as well the mindset of our customers trying to figure out how much of a risk building things in Mexico may cause on their own profitability. As we look at that, we offer some solutions. I don't think there's any perfect solution in this type of scenario, but that's one of the reasons why we wanted to share with the market our expansion into our domestic Arkansas facility and then also the strategic direction of continuing to build Vietnam into a larger part of our of what it contributes each and every quarter. While there might not be any silver bullet to avoid all tariffs, I think each and every program has its nuances that one of those locations may be better than another in total cost set. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:24:10Great. That is helpful. And relative to your large win that you announced, would you talk around as much detail around that as you can, please? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:24:29Yes. For now, they've asked us to keep that anonymous, but we're sure excited about it and really has opened up a new industry for us. And since that time, we've actually even entered into a lot of different other quote opportunities within the power and technology and utility space. Super excited about this particular product. It's out in the market today and we're excited to be able to grow with this company as they've seen an increased demand. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:25:14Okay, Brett, if you will please allow me to be pointed here with a question. You all in the past have had other large wins that you have announced and ultimately haven't had a permanently meaningful benefit to the company. I mean, if we add $60,000,000 to revenues, that's a pretty big number. What gives you confidence that this actually does lead to a real meaningful increase and essentially a game changer for you all rather than having something go haywire with it as some of the others have. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:26:00Sure. I think it really hinges on the fact that they are well financed for one. Two is the actual product is a market disruptor. And from what we see and from our vantage point, there's going to be some significant demand for this particular product. And then three, it's already out in the market and functioning as intended. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:26:28So I think with those three things, we feel more confident at this point that this will really be a great program for us. Bill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital Management00:26:39Great. Thank you for that perspective. I'll step back in line and if there are others that have questions, I'll wait for them. Thank you. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:26:49Thanks, Bill. Operator00:26:50Thank you. We will take our next question from George Melas with MKH Management. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:26:59Thank you. Hello, Brad. Good morning. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:27:02Hey. Anthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & Secretary at Key Tronic00:27:03Hey, George. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:27:05Just a few follow-up on Bill's question With that new win in the energy resiliency space, is that a product that is partly manufactured in house by your customer and you are taking over that production or you're becoming a second stowage of production? How does that work? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:27:39Yes, George, we need to be careful on how much we share with that, but they're currently outsourcing it today and looking for a larger contract manager or contract manufacturer with a global footprint. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:27:55Okay, okay, great. I won't ask much more there. Question on inventory, I think you noted quite correctly that the inventory over the last year has gone down. But I think that you had seven quarters of reduction and that in this particular quarter, the trend was reversed. So I imagine that's partly because of product that could not ship. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:28:25But how do you see that trending in the second half of the fiscal year? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:28:33Yes. So absolutely, that's exactly what happened. The reason that our trend of continued inventory reduction flipped this last quarter, the second quarter, of course, we missed on roughly $15,000,000 to $20,000,000 in revenue. And a large part of that of those components were already en route. So that was the reason for the slight uptick in overall inventory. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:29:01My expectation is that inventory turns from what they are today will continue to improve. Now my hope is the revenue continues to increase throughout the rest of the calendar year, so that inventory will flex with that, but our terms still should improve. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:29:27Okay. Okay, very good. And do you still have a fair amount of the inventory that's not on the balance sheet that's actually formed by customers? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:29:38Yes, we do. There's as we spoke before at the point in time components age. So they're in our warehouse for let's just say ninety days, then contractually we actually invoice customer for those. So yes, we still have quite a bit of that. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:29:57Okay, great. Okay. Trying to understand the gross profit and the gross margin. And there was a drop in the gross profit that was $5,600,000 And I'm trying to do a calculation and help me if that makes sense. So the last time that you reported your cost of material, George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:30:23it was George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:30:23roughly 62% of revenue that was in 2018, '20 '19. So I'm doing the same math and I'm basically saying on revenue drop sequentially of $18,000,000 the approximate trillion down roughly 11. And then in order to get to that $6,000,000 of decline in gross profit, it means your productivity and support went down roughly $1,000,000 So it seems like the fixed parts of the manufacturing costs hardly removed at all despite the big drop in revenue. And that very small drop in production and support was facilitated by a drop in the peso business versus the dollar. So I'm trying to understand how that moves forward because well, first of all, maybe are those numbers, wallet numbers make sense? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:31:35Yes, I think those are directionally correct, George. And unfortunately, in a very short timeframe, most of that production and overhead cost is pretty fixed. Now we can make changes to that. And I think Tony mentioned that we actually we made some additional headcount reductions in January. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:31:59Okay. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:31:59But from a short period or within a quarter's time, most of that production cost is pretty fixed. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:32:09Okay. So that's reflected in those numbers. Okay, very good. And then just looking at your revenue, you sort of look at our guidance because of the uncertainty as you said. So what are the three factors that really impacted you in the December quarter? George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:32:28The production hiccups related to the holiday period and the component shortage, both of those factors seem to be not recurring at least for the entire month of March, maybe the components for some of them we made sure. So we should see a nice pickup. Is that and are you guys not guiding because of concerns about getting the top line right or is it more about the profitability? Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:33:02At this point, just coming off of a crazy weekend where many of our customers are still trying to digest, hey, we were going to have to pay a 25 tariff on anything coming into Mexico. And there's again, there is currently a 10% on the table for additional 10% on things coming in from China. They're still trying to digest that and will there be any shifts in either bringing product in quicker or will there be some delays of asking us to delay some shipments? So it's kind of both. It's really will there be any real big shifts in our customers' demands because of that or because of what results in thirty day time. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:33:58There's just a lot in the air right now. Contractually, if a tariff were to be enacted, that is a cost that we would pass on to our customer. Now, does that still are we still competitive with other contract manufacturers and those types of things? On the surface, you'd say, yes, because everyone is impacted the same, but it could force some additional competition and or transfers of legacy products maybe in internal or to another Centimeters. So all of those things that we just we felt comfortable to go ahead and pull the guidance for top line and bottom line. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:34:47As you saw in quarter two, the bottom line is so drastically impacted on your revenue because we have so much in fixed cost. So we'll readdress that in a quarter. But I'm hoping between now and then things settle back down to where we have a good and solid predictable revenue stream and then we'll get back to offering guidance. George Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management Company00:35:21Very good. Okay. I'll go back in the queue. Thank you. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:35:25Thank you. Operator00:35:27Thank Operator00:35:33you. And at this time, we have no additional questions. I will now turn the call back to Mr. Larson for any additional or closing remarks. Brett LarsenPresident & CEO at Key Tronic00:35:55Thank you again for participating in today's conference call. Tony and I look forward to speaking to you again in next quarter. Operator00:36:07This does conclude today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesAnthony VoorheesExecutive VP of Administration, CFO & SecretaryBrett LarsenPresident & CEOAnalystsBill DezellemFounder, President & Chief Investment Officer at Tieton Capital ManagementGeorge Melas-KyriaziPresident at MKH Management CompanyPowered by