Air Products and Chemicals Q1 2025 Earnings Report

Air Products and Chemicals EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $2.86
• Consensus EPS: $3.13
• Beat/Miss: Missed by -$0.27
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

Air Products and Chemicals Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: N/A
• Expected Revenue: $2.96 billion
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

Air Products and Chemicals Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q1 2025
• Date: 2/6/2025
• Time: After Market Closes
• Conference Call Date: Thursday, February 6, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 8:00AM ET

Air Products and Chemicals (NYSE:APD) provides atmospheric gases, process and specialty gases, equipment, and related services in the Americas, Asia, Europe, the Middle East, India, and internationally. The company produces atmospheric gases, including oxygen, nitrogen, and argon; process gases, such as hydrogen, helium, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, and syngas; and specialty gases for customers in various industries, including refining, chemical, manufacturing, electronics, energy production, medical, food, and metals. It also designs and manufactures equipment for air separation, hydrocarbon recovery and purification, natural gas liquefaction, and liquid helium and liquid hydrogen transport and storage. The company was founded in 1940 and is headquartered in Allentown, Pennsylvania.

Air Products and Chemicals Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Presentation

[Operator]

Good morning, and welcome to the Air Products First Quarter Earnings Release Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded at the request of Air Products. Please note that the presentation and the comments made on behalf of Air Products are subject to copyright by Air Products and all rights are reserved. Beginning today's call is Mr. Eric Goetier.

[Operator]

Please go ahead, sir.

[Eric Guter, Vice President of Investor Relations at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thank you, Lisa. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Air Products' first quarter twenty twenty five earnings results teleconference. This is Eric Guder, Vice President of Investor Relations. I am pleased to be joined today by Melissa Schaeffer, our Chief Financial Officer and Shawn Majer, our Executive Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary.

[Eric Guter, Vice President of Investor Relations at Air Products and Chemicals]

On today's call, I'm also pleased to welcome Air Products' Chairman of the Board, Wayne Smith and Eduardo Menendez, Air Products' new CEO, effective tomorrow, 02/07/2025. Please turn to Slide number two and let me now turn the call over to Wayne for a few brief remarks.

[Wayne Smith, Chairman of the Board at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thank you, Eric. Good morning and welcome everyone. Air Products annual meeting of shareholders was held exactly two weeks ago and five new directors were elected to our Board. The reconstituted Board met immediately, quickly coalesced, worked intensively and made several key leadership decisions. First, I'm honored to have been elected as Chairman of the Board of Air Products where I've served as a Director since 2021, following my career in the chemicals industry, which included eleven years in industrial gases.

[Wayne Smith, Chairman of the Board at Air Products and Chemicals]

Second, I'm honored to be working with our new Vice Chairman, Dennis Riley. Dennis had a tremendous career in the industrial gas industry, leading Praxair as CEO. Prior to that, Dennis held executive roles at DuPont and Conoco in industries which are significant consumers of industrial gases. Finally, and most significantly, I'm very pleased to introduce our new CEO, Eduardo Meneses, who is on the call today. Eduardo brings more than three point five decades of international experience in all key sectors of industrial gases.

[Wayne Smith, Chairman of the Board at Air Products and Chemicals]

At his last position, he was EVP of Linde for Europe, Middle East and Africa with responsibility for operations in more than 40 countries, over $8,000,000,000 in sales and more than 18,000 employees. He's lived and worked around the world. We all look forward to working with him, taking Air Products forward and maximizing value for shareholders. Let me now turn over the call to Eduardo to briefly introduce himself.

[Eduardo Menezes, CEO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thank you, Wayne. Aprix is a fantastic company with a bright future, and I'm honored to have the opportunity to work with the team to build on the company's strong positions. I met several larger shareholders during the last few weeks to understand their perspectives and requests. And starting tomorrow, I will begin meeting with employees, customers and business partners to move their products forward. Tomorrow is my first day as a Air Products employee, so I apologize if I'm not going to be able to take questions on this call.

[Eduardo Menezes, CEO at Air Products and Chemicals]

But I look forward to sharing my priorities as a new CEO of Air Products and to presenting the second fiscal quarter results on the next call. Now, I'll turn the call back to Wayne.

[Wayne Smith, Chairman of the Board at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thank you, Eduardo. Before turning the call back over to the management team, I would like to take a moment to thank the outstanding employees of Air Products, who have remained dedicated, energized and focused throughout this process. I'd also like to thank Sethi Ghassemi for his countless contributions and leadership of Air Products over the past decade. We have a great foundation to build upon. Now as you can appreciate, given the changes underway, the scope of today's call will be limited to discussion of quarterly results of the company and our outlook.

[Wayne Smith, Chairman of the Board at Air Products and Chemicals]

We appreciate you may have a variety of questions which extend beyond the results of the quarter, which will be addressed in due course. But for today, we kindly ask that questions be limited to and focused on the financial results that we disclosed this morning and our outlook for the remainder of the year. With that, let me turn it back over to Eric.

[Eric Guter, Vice President of Investor Relations at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thank you, Wayne. Our earnings release and the slides for this call are available on the earnings page of our website at investors.airproducts.com. Today's discussion contains forward looking statements, including those about earnings and capital expenditure guidance, business outlook and investment opportunities. Please refer to the cautionary note regarding forward looking statements that is provided in our earnings release and on Slide number three. Additionally, throughout today's discussions, we will refer to various financial measures, including earnings per share, operating income, operating margin, EBITDA, EBITDA margin, the effective tax rate and ROCE either on a total company or segment basis.

[Eric Guter, Vice President of Investor Relations at Air Products and Chemicals]

Unless we specifically state otherwise, statements regarding these measures refer to our adjusted non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these measures to our most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found on our investor website in the relevant earnings release section. Now, I'm pleased to turn the call over to Melissa.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thank you, Eric, and good day to everyone. Please turn to Slide number four of the materials we have posted on the website for this call. Safety is our number one priority without exception. We are proud of the continuous improvement we were able to achieve in this area, but our goal and efforts are always towards zero accidents and zero incidents. Now, please turn to Slide number five for our first quarter results.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

As we announced in January, first quarter adjusted earnings per share of $2.86 exceeded the upper end of our guidance range of $2.75 to $2.85 up 1% over last year, driven by results in The Americas. Our earnings per share improved despite the divestment of the LNG Process Technology and Equipment business, which closed at the end of fiscal twenty twenty four. The LNG business contributed roughly $0.08 to our first quarter earnings in 2024. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was up 140 basis points and our adjusted operating margin increased 80 basis points versus prior year. Please turn to Slide number six for our fiscal twenty twenty five second quarter and full year outlook.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

We are maintaining our fiscal twenty twenty five full year guidance. We continue to monitor the strengthening U. S. Dollar, tariffs and the global helium market for potential impact to the remainder of the year. Consistent with our focus on driving productivity, we continue to evaluate actions to reduce our costs and improve our services to our customers.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

We expect our second quarter adjusted earnings per share to be in the range of $2.75 to $2.85 which is up 1% to 4% reflective of the LNG divestiture. We are proud of the results this quarter. I'm particularly grateful that our people stayed focused on the work at hand, demonstrating their unwavering commitment to our customers, shareholders and all whom we serve. I would like to thank them for their support and continued efforts to position the company for long term success. Now please turn to Slide number seven for a detailed review of our first quarter results.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Compared to last year, overall volume was down 2% primarily due to the LNG business divestment. Volume in Americas improved this quarter, but was offset by the weakness in Europe. Total company price was up 1%, which equates to a 2% improvement for the merchant business, driven by continued pricing strength in The Americas and Europe. Adjusted EBITDA improved 1%, primarily due to a better price, partially offset by higher costs and lower equity affiliate income. Adjusted EBITDA margin was up 140 basis points due to favorable business mix and price.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Sequentially, volume was down following a strong finish to fiscal twenty twenty four and the sale of the LNG business in September. Now please turn to Slide number eight for a discussion of our first quarter adjusted earnings per share. Adjusted earnings per share of $2.86 increased $0.04 despite the $0.08 contribution from LNG in the prior year, which is reflected in our volume variance. Price, net of variable costs, was favorable $0.1 demonstrating continued strength in The Americas and Europe. The pricing improvement more than offset unfavorable other costs of $0.07 Lower prior year incentive compensation and inflation drove increased costs, which are partially offset by our productivity improvements.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Now, please turn to Slide number nine for a brief discussion of our business segment results. You can find individual slides covering each of the business segments in the appendix. Looking at each business segment, Americas overall pricing was 2% higher with improvement across most product lines. This translates to a 4% merchant pricing gain for the region. The 3% volume improvement was driven by a significant non recurring sale of helium to an existing merchant customer.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

These factors drove adjusted EBITDA 6% higher and improved adjusted EBITDA margin by 150 basis points. For our Asia segment, the 2% volume improvement was driven by contributions from new assets. Adjusted EBITDA increased 7%, primarily due to favorable volumes, costs and equity to affiliate income. Adjusted EBITDA margin was up 160 basis points. Looking at Europe results, broad based pricing improved 1%.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Volume was down 5% driven by lower on-site and continued weakness in merchant demand, primarily helium. Adjusted EBITDA was 3% lower as weaker volume was partially offset by higher price and favorable cost. The Uzbekistan project is undergoing planned facility upgrades during the first half of fiscal twenty twenty five. We expect the facility to return to normal operation and contribute near its full run rate at the start of the third quarter. Moving to our Middle East and India segment.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Lower merchant volume was a headwind for sales and adjusted EBITDA. Adjusted EBITDA was also negatively impacted by unfavorable equity affiliate income and costs. Finally, for our Corporate and Other segment, sales and profits were lower this quarter primarily due to the sale of the LNG business. Thank you. And now, we will be delighted to answer your questions.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

And as a reminder, we request that questions be limited to our financial results and our outlook.

[Operator]

And our first question comes from Chris Parkinson with Wolfe Research.

[Christopher Parkinson, Senior Research Analyst at Wolfe Research, LLC]

Great. Thank you so much for taking my question. Just very quickly, just given all the moving parts in Asia, how should the Street be thinking about, obviously, some of the past headwinds in the helium business and electronics recovery and just general macroeconomic conditions in China? Are there just general things we can do to triangulate the forward outlook from this point in time? Thank you so much.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Hey, Chris. Great to hear from you. So, yes, let's talk about China. So, China was supported this quarter by new assets and productivity actions, but China is still a wait and see. So, right now, we see no material improvement.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

The market still remains challenging. We obviously are watching tariffs as well as the China and country stimulus impact. In the meantime, we remain focused on productivity and the things that we can manage, and we're focusing on delivering to our customers.

[Christopher Parkinson, Senior Research Analyst at Wolfe Research, LLC]

Got it. And just as a quick follow-up, can we just get a quick update on the Alberta project, please? Thank you.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So, thanks, Chris. From a project perspective, at this point in time, I don't have any new updates from what we had previously shared on calls. When we have updates, obviously, we'll bring that information to you.

[Christopher Parkinson, Senior Research Analyst at Wolfe Research, LLC]

All good. Thank you.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thanks, Chris.

[Operator]

And our next question comes from Duffy Fischer from Goldman Sachs.

[Duffy Fischer, Equity Research Analyst at Goldman Sachs]

Yes. Good morning, guys. So at the midpoint of both your Q2 and the full year, you need the second half to be about $1.5 per share or better than the first half. Can you give us a walk how much of that is seasonality and how much is stuff like the Uzbekistan plant coming back, obviously the helium going away, just some of the one off stuff that helps us in the walk from first half to second half?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes. Hey Duffy, thanks for the question. So the split for the first half and second half is relatively consistent to what we've seen in the past couple of quarters, about 1% difference. There is definitely seasonality in Q1 and in Q2 because of the Lunar New Year in China. As you mentioned, we do have several planned maintenance outages, obviously Uzbekistan being the most significant one.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

For the second half, we're going to be focusing on pricing actions, Uzbekistan coming back on stream early in Q3. We're obviously going to be looking to capture volume opportunities and we are going to be executing the remainder of our productivity initiatives. Obviously, washing the strengthening dollar and really just the general macro and geopolitical environment. So keeping an eye on all those things as we lead into the rest of the year.

[Duffy Fischer, Equity Research Analyst at Goldman Sachs]

Okay. And then if you looked at The Americas, excluding that one time sale of helium, what would price and volume have been in Q1?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Fantastic, Duffy. So let me just give you some generalizations about The Americas business. So pricing was strong across our product lines outside of helium and hydrogen volumes remain strong. They were very strong in our HEICO's business and we actually saw some improvement in our merchants.

[Operator]

And we'll move to our next question from Steve Byrne with Bank of America.

[Steve Byrne, Research Analyst at Bank of America Securities]

Can you provide a breakdown on the CapEx outlook for the fiscal year, the $4,500,000,000 to $5,000,000,000 how do you expect that CapEx to be deployed by projects?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes, Steve, thanks for the question. So we don't we aren't going to be breaking up that $4,500,000,000 but the vast majority is going to be the deployment to our large projects. We've got about $750,000,000 associated to ongoing maintenance And then there's about 1,000,000,000 that we associate to our normal, let's call it, traditional industrial gas business. We're still forecasting that $4,500,000,000 to $5,000,000,000 to be what we're looking for, for this fiscal year.

[Steve Byrne, Research Analyst at Bank of America Securities]

Okay. Thank you, Melissa. And any update on the permitting project in the World Energy?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So, at this point in time, as we've talked about, that project still is on hold awaiting permits. When we've got new updates for that, obviously, I'll bring it to you.

[Steve Byrne, Research Analyst at Bank of America Securities]

Okay. Thank you.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Jeff Zekauskas with JPMorgan.

[Jeffrey Zekauskas, Analyst at JP Morgan]

Thanks very much. What was the helium EBITDA contribution in The Americas in the quarter if there was one?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So, Jeff, as always, we've not broken out helium. So I apologize that we're taking the market.

[Jeffrey Zekauskas, Analyst at JP Morgan]

From the sale.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

I'm sorry, fantastic. Yes. Yes. So sorry, Jeff, go ahead.

[Jeffrey Zekauskas, Analyst at JP Morgan]

From the outsized sale, what was the benefit from that?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes. So from the one time sale, what we're calling the non reoccurring Americas sale, that is about a 10% EPS contribution for this quarter.

[Jeffrey Zekauskas, Analyst at JP Morgan]

10% for the whole company or 10% for that unit?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

$0.1 sorry, $0.1 EPS.

[Jeffrey Zekauskas, Analyst at JP Morgan]

Okay. Okay.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes.

[Jeffrey Zekauskas, Analyst at JP Morgan]

Great.

[Jeffrey Zekauskas, Analyst at JP Morgan]

And then

[Jeffrey Zekauskas, Analyst at JP Morgan]

lastly, can you talk about the overall helium market and what's happening with pricing? Is it different in the different geographic jurisdiction?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes, let's talk about helium. Thanks, Jeff. So the helium market, as you're aware, is silica in nature. We've worked through these silical ups and downs for many decades. At this moment, the market is long.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

We are seeing helium come from the Russian assets into Asia, which is making the market long. But we're continuing to manage that and optimize our helium business. And obviously, we are in a unique position to really reliably supply our customers.

[Jeffrey Zekauskas, Analyst at JP Morgan]

Okay. Thank you.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thank you, Jeff. Yes.

[Operator]

And our next question comes from David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank.

[David Begleiter, Managing Director at Deutsche Bank]

Thank you. Good morning. Melissa, in The Americas on volume ex helium, were volumes down around 3%?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

No. So helium was a contributor, but we really saw very strong merchant volumes. And our HEICO business, especially along the Gulf Coast, continues to be very strong. So Helium was a bit of a headwind outside of the one time, but again, merchant volumes are very strong and HEICO was strong as well.

[David Begleiter, Managing Director at Deutsche Bank]

Understood. And just in The

[David Begleiter, Managing Director at Deutsche Bank]

Middle East and India, can you talk about the equity affiliate income decline and what drove that?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Sure, absolutely. Great question. So, the equity affiliate income noise was really around our Jazan joint venture. Given the nature of that contract, we do see some fluctuations quarter by quarter. But the Jazam project is contributing as expected and we do anticipate the contributions to be on par with what we saw in 2024.

[David Begleiter, Managing Director at Deutsche Bank]

Thank you.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David.

[Operator]

Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David.

[Operator]

Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David.

[Mike Leithead, Analyst at Barclays Capital]

Thank

[Mike Leithead, Analyst at Barclays Capital]

you guide, it looks like EPS is maybe about a nickel better sequentially if we back out the $0.1 or so from the helium non recurring sale. Can you just speak high level what's sequentially getting better or worse as we think about modeling here?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Sure. For the second quarter, we are looking to see some headwinds from Uzbekistan, but we obviously have some seasonality going into Q1 in many of our geographies. So we will see improved volumes in The Americas. We're continuing to focus on pricing in Europe, especially with the higher power costs that we're seeing there. And as I mentioned, we are closing out the execution of our productivity programs that we had over the last couple of years.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So those would really start to show through in many of our regional results.

[Mike Leithead, Analyst at Barclays Capital]

Great. Thank you. And then just a quick clarification or confirmation. Its full year guidance does not assume any contribution from the Alberta project this year. Is that correct?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

That is correct.

[Mike Leithead, Analyst at Barclays Capital]

Great. Thanks.

[Operator]

And our next question comes from Patrick Cunningham with Citi.

[Patrick Cunningham, Vice President, Senior Analyst at Citigroup]

Melissa, you mentioned monitoring the tariff impact from customers. I'm just wondering what your latest thoughts are there? Any conversations with customers suggesting this could be maybe a short term negative to production? But is there any sort of long term benefit of higher manufacturing here in The Americas, for example?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Sure. Yes, tariffs are definitely on everybody's mind, Patrick. So first, as you know, for the vast majority of our products, we're in region for region. Industrial gas is a localized model, so likely from a supply chain and a localized customer perspective, that should have little impact. There could be an impact on projects.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

We anticipate relative to the size of our projects it to be moderate. And of course, we have a global diversified supply chain to reduce that exposure. But as you note, we do need to consider the macro impact to our customers and the knock on effect to these tariffs. So, we're staying very close to them and updating our forecast to meet their new production needs.

[Patrick Cunningham, Vice President, Senior Analyst at Citigroup]

Got it. Very helpful. And then interest expense came in a bit lower than what was expected, maybe down $7,000,000 or $8,000,000 sequentially. I mean, is there anything any additional interest being capitalized, anything strange about the quarter or is this a sort of quarterly rate that we can expect to look forward?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So interest obviously has a little bit of movement based on the timing of the debt draw. So we did obviously have capitalized interest associated to our Neon projects as well as our other projects, largest contribution of capitalized interest, of course, going to Neon. But no nothing else really significant other than that capitalized interest. Obviously, as we take on new debt that will increase, but we'll look to maximize capitalized interest as much as we can on our significant projects.

[Patrick Cunningham, Vice President, Senior Analyst at Citigroup]

Great. Thank you so much.

[Operator]

And we'll move to our next question from Josh Spector with UBS.

[Josh Spector, Executive Director at UBS Group]

Yes, hi, good morning. I wanted to follow-up on the second half bridge. I think in response to the earlier question, you talked about pricing actions. So specifically to that, I mean, I assume higher energy costs are having an impact negatively on 2Q. Is your comment about second half improvement that you recover some of that?

[Josh Spector, Executive Director at UBS Group]

Or do you have visibility to pricing actions beyond response to near term energy that you have visibility to that you're baking into your guidance?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Josh, thanks. It's good to hear from you. So as I mentioned, we are seeing power cost increase specifically in Europe. So as you know, there is usually a month or a quarter depending on the customer delay and being able to capture that increase in power cost with pricing actions. So obviously, the teams are working very hard with our customer base to be able to quickly action on those pricing actions, but there is usually about a month or so to maybe even a quarter delay.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So we are looking to take those pricing actions likely into the second half of this fiscal year.

[Josh Spector, Executive Director at UBS Group]

Okay, thanks. And can you just comment on what corporate cost is baked into your guide? I think the quarter came in a bit higher than we expected, so we're not sure what the right run rate is you're assuming there.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So we did see this quarter a bit of a headwind, let's call it about $0.07 Now as I mentioned in my comments, there is some inflation baked in there. The other main driver of that is obviously we had tougher results last year, so we took incentive compensation down. So as we accrue for this year, you'll see a little bit of a headwind with the incentive compensation accrual. And obviously, last year, we're looking to take the actions and there was a little bit of cost associated with our productivity actions, having individuals come on and then being able to exit other individuals in other geographies. So productivity actions will start to really flow through this year and likely in the second half you'll see that really ramp up.

[Josh Spector, Executive Director at UBS Group]

Okay. Thank you.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from John Roberts with Mizuho.

[John Roberts, Managing Director at Mizuho Financial Group]

Thank you. And Wayne, good to talk again and congratulations to Eduardo and Dennis. Wayne, how do you see the roles different between Chairman and Vice Chairman?

[Wayne Smith, Chairman of the Board at Air Products and Chemicals]

Thanks, John, for your question. Listen, I think you can understand that we've got a lot of change going on right now. The Board really is coalescing and working nicely together, a lot to do. I think we can talk more on that in the future once we've got things moving along a little bit better. But thanks for the question, John.

[John Roberts, Managing Director at Mizuho Financial Group]

Okay. Maybe Melissa, Uzbekistan is a relatively new plant. What upgrades does it need?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes. Thanks for the question, John. So, as I mentioned, Yusekastan is going through a planned maintenance. The Yusekastan asset, when we took that asset on, we did determine that there was a need for a turnaround to allow some of the improvements to bring the plant up to speed to air product standards. So this is all part of the plan.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

We'll see that coming back on stream in Q3 We'll see the full BFC run through the rest of the year. But again, was planned, was built into the original acquisition pricing and planned for the BFC moving forward.

[John Roberts, Managing Director at Mizuho Financial Group]

Thank you.

[Operator]

And our next question comes

[Operator]

from Laurence Alexander with Jefferies. Hi. This is

[Dan Rizzo, Senior Vice President at Jefferies Financial Group]

Dan Rizzo on for Laurence. Does your outlook for 2025 assume any improvement in like industrial activity or in consumer demand?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So we thanks for the question. And we are not looking for very much improvement from a global perspective in industrial production. You guys can see the numbers. There is not a lot of significant improvement in any geographies that we're seeing. There's about 2%, I believe, from an average globally.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So we're not looking to say there's going to be significant industrial production improvement throughout this year.

[Dan Rizzo, Senior Vice President at Jefferies Financial Group]

And can you guys remind us in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, did those tariffs have any effect at all on the demand on your demand on you and on your customer production levels, particularly in Asia, I guess, where it was focused last time?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So I'm going to have to come back to you on that question. I was not CFO at that time. So I will have the teams come back to you with that answer on '27 and 2018.

[Dan Rizzo, Senior Vice President at Jefferies Financial Group]

All right.

[Dan Rizzo, Senior Vice President at Jefferies Financial Group]

Thank you very much.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes. Thank you.

[Operator]

We'll move now to Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners.

[Kevin McCarthy, Partner at Vertical Research Partners]

Yes. Thank you and good morning. I was wondering if you could provide an update on your blue hydrogen project in Louisiana. And specifically, I'm interested in the prospect for partnerships. I think in the past you've discussed potentially bringing in an equity partner and or partners for sequestration or blue ammonia offtake.

[Kevin McCarthy, Partner at Vertical Research Partners]

Appreciate you've had your hands full perhaps in recent months, but wondering if there has been any progress made toward those ends? Thanks.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes. Kevin, good to hear from you. So as associated to our Louisiana project, it's being executed on the normal course. No significant updates on the project execution on the normal course as we projected. From a partnership perspective, you're right, we've been busy, but the teams have been focused on going out and having the right conversations with parties that would be interested in equity partnerships coupled with offtake.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So we are having those active conversations focusing largely in Asia, Japan, Korea on potential equity partnerships. We really are opening it up to other partnerships from an industry perspective as well. When we have an update and progress those discussions, obviously, we'll bring that forward to you.

[Kevin McCarthy, Partner at Vertical Research Partners]

Very good. And then secondly, Melissa, I think Air Products has signaled in the past that you would intend to be free cash flow positive in fiscal twenty twenty seven, I believe. Is that still the case? And perhaps you can elaborate on the free cash flow trajectory as you see it shaping up here through the management transition if possible?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Great question. Yes, let's talk about cash flow. So we are still projecting to be net cash flow positive in FY 2027. That's still the forecast. We could look, as we just talked about, for opportunities for equity partnerships, potentially even project financing if the portfolio fits.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

And as those progress, obviously, as I said, I will keep you updated. At this point in time, I look forward to working with Eduardo and the Board to understand what their plans are for the projects. And as we have updates from that perspective and how that affects our cash flow, obviously, we'll bring those forward as well. No changes at this point in time.

[Operator]

And our next question comes from Michael Ciethon with Wells Fargo.

[Abigail Eberts, Equity Research Associate at Wells Fargo]

Hi. This is Abigail on for Mike. I know you touched on pricing in Europe being higher because energy prices are higher. Are you similarly going to be pushing for higher pricing in Americas and Asia as well?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Absolutely. So pricing is something that we focus on, on a day to day hourly basis, right? So our teams are actively working pricing and that is not just unique to Europe. Europe, I spiked out specifically because we are seeing power cost increase, but we are trying to maximize pricing and the balance of pricing and volume every single day with our customers. So absolutely, the teams are looking to take pricing actions where they can in The Americas and in the Asia market as well.

[Abigail Eberts, Equity Research Associate at Wells Fargo]

Got it. Thanks. And are you able to give us a feel for the capital intensity of the Uzbekistan upgrade?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So there is no a little bit of what I spoke about before is it's an increasing situation. So this was negotiated into the acquisition price. So there will be no additional capital outlay associated to these upgrades. That will be a discount to the $100,000,000 that we have outstanding on that acquisition. So the acquisition price doesn't change, no additional capital outlays than what we've spoke about before.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

It will just be a discount associated to the 100,000,000 outstanding. We expect it to be much less, but that again will be no additional outlay for our Air Products. Thank you for that question.

[Operator]

And we'll move to our next question from John McNulty from BMO Capital Markets.

[John McNulty, MD - Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

So I know Air Products had a number of cost cutting and restructuring initiatives in kind of late 'twenty three and then in 'twenty four as well. Can you help us to think about how much in terms of the benefit of that we should see in 2025 and how it sequences through the year?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes, John, it's great to hear from you and thank you for the question. So you're right, we've had, let's call it, two significant tranches of cost productivity actions. In aggregate, we've taken about 5% of our workforce down. If you look about that over a fiscal year, it's about $75,000,000 That being said, obviously, as you could consider, there is inflation as well as wage increases that could compensate, overcompensate some of that, but we're still looking for the cost productivity to really support us in the back half of this fiscal year.

[John McNulty, MD - Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

Got it. Okay. So at least as of now, $75,000,000 through 2025, offset by some inflation. Am I understanding that right?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Proportional. So we'll see that ramp up in the back half of the fiscal year. We are seeing some of that go through Q1 and Q2, but not the full ramp. Yes.

[John McNulty, MD - Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

Okay. And then just one follow-up on Uzbek. I think that was supposed to add about $0.35 to $0.36 to EPS on an annualized basis. Given what the turnaround work that you're doing, what do you expect that contribution to be in 'twenty five, just so we can kind of think about when we get to normalize what the additional help is going to be in 'twenty six?

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

So and starting in Q3, we'll be fully ramped up again. So you should take the proportional quarters for Q3 and Q4. We had about, let's call it, a month and a half of contributions in Q1. Q2 will be down and Q3 and Q4 should be fully ramped.

[John McNulty, MD - Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

Got it. Okay. Thanks for the color.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes. Absolutely. Thank you.

[Operator]

And ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's question and answer session. At this time, I'll turn the conference back to our speakers for any additional or closing remarks.

[Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO at Air Products and Chemicals]

Yes. Thank you. I would like to thank everyone again for joining our call today. We appreciate your interest in Air Products and we look forward to discussing our results with you again next quarter. Please stay safe and healthy and all the best and have a wonderful day.

[Operator]

And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect and have a great day.

Participants

Executives

• Eric Guter, Vice President of Investor Relations
• Wayne Smith, Chairman of the Board
• Eduardo Menezes, CEO
• Melissa Schaeffer, Executive VP & CFO

Analysts

• Christopher Parkinson, Senior Research Analyst at Wolfe Research, LLC
• Duffy Fischer, Equity Research Analyst at Goldman Sachs
• Steve Byrne, Research Analyst at Bank of America Securities
• Jeffrey Zekauskas, Analyst at JP Morgan
• David Begleiter, Managing Director at Deutsche Bank
• Mike Leithead, Analyst at Barclays Capital
• Patrick Cunningham, Vice President, Senior Analyst at Citigroup
• Josh Spector, Executive Director at UBS Group
• John Roberts, Managing Director at Mizuho Financial Group
• Dan Rizzo, Senior Vice President at Jefferies Financial Group
• Kevin McCarthy, Partner at Vertical Research Partners
• Abigail Eberts, Equity Research Associate at Wells Fargo
• John McNulty, MD - Chemicals Analyst at BMO Capital Markets