Philip Morris International Q4 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing-by. Welcome to the Philip Morris International 4th-Quarter 2024 and Full-Year Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, James, Vice-President of Investor Relations and Financial Communications. Please go-ahead.

James Bushnell
Vice President, Investor Relations and Financial Communications at Philip Morris International

Welcome. Thank you for joining us. Earlier today, we issued a press release containing detailed information on our 2024 4th-quarter and full-year results. The press release is available on our website at pmi.com. A glossary of terms, including the definition for smoke-free products as well as adjustments, other calculations and reconciliations to the most directly-comparable US GAAP measures for non-GAAP financial measures cited in this presentation are available in Exhibit 99.2 to the company's Form 8-K dated February 6, 2025, and on our Investor Relations website. Today's remarks contain forward-looking statements and projections of future results. I direct your attention to the forward-looking and cautionary statements disclosure in today's presentation and press release for a review of the various factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from projections or forward-looking statements. I'm joined today by Olchak, Chief Executive Officer; and Emmanuel, Chief Financial Officer. Over to you,.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Thank you, James, and welcome everyone. We delivered an outstanding performance in 2024 with all key elements of the business contributing strongly to deliver best-in-class organic top and bottom-line growth. This resulted in significant acceleration in adjusted diluted earnings per share growth in both currency-neutral and equally importantly dollar terms as we mitigated substantial currency headwinds. Our business outperformed the industry and consumer packaged goods overall with growth across with growth across all categories to deliver our fourth consecutive year of positive volumes. IQOS continued its strong underlying momentum with continued excellent growth in Japan, robust progress in Europe despite the EO characterizing flavor van and further strong growth in our global markets. Importantly, the growth of IQOS is increasingly profitable as the benefits of scale and pricing more than offset continued substantial growth investments, including brand-building activities and innovations on devices and consumables. Once again delivered strong growth in the US as 2023 demand acceleration continued in 2024. This resulted in short-term supply challenges, which we have progressively addressed throughout the year, working towards our goal of matching existing user demand. As we unlock further capacity, we will be in a position to explore the full potential of this dynamic category. Outside the US, shipments grew by 75% as we increased our global presence in newcut and pouches to 37 markets. In e-Vapor, is progressively contributing to growth with encouraging volume momentum in closed spots and strengthening market position with a premium offer. Our combustible business performed well on all metrics. We delivered double-digit gross profit growth in-quarter four of last year and around 7% organically for the year, led by strong pricing, resilient volumes in certain markets and the ongoing benefits of our cost actions. Overall, our strong performance across all categories and regions drove meaningful operating leverage, notably in our smoke-free business alongside cost-efficiency initiatives across the entire value chain. This enabled us to deliver -- over -- deliver operating cash-flow and adjusted diluted EPS above our expectations at the start of the year despite ongoing currency and input cost headwinds. Our transformation journey and growth drivers have excellent momentum and we are confident in our ability to deliver sustainable growth and returns in 2025 and beyond. Over the past year, we achieved several key milestones in our smoke-free journey, including the 10-year anniversary of ICOS and ZYN. Our smoke-free business is large, profitable and growing fast. Our total smoke-free net revenues reach almost $15 billion in 2024. Combined with a strong combustible performance, our company also surpassed $10 billion in adjusted net earnings for the first time. Our smoke-free business reached 40% of total PMI net revenues in the 4th-quarter and around 42% of adjusted gross profit as our transformation becomes increensically profitable. In our top-five markets by operating income, around 60% of net revenues were smoke-free. We have deployed our smoke-free multi-category strategy across almost half of the 95 markets with smoke-free products and we closed the year with over 38.5 million estimated adult users across heat, not-burn, oral and e-vapor. Our smoke-free business surpassed 1 billion, including 644 million tons of nicotine pouches. The Zen brand continues to resonate with adult nicotine consumers across the US where it is the number-one smoke-free brand and the fourth biggest nicotine brand and also grows internationally. We're also very pleased that the robust science and responsible marketing practices behind ZYN were recognized by FDA through the recent marketing authorization of all currently commercial -- commercialized US Zen variants, making Zen the first and the only authorized nicotent pouch brand in the United States. We remain at the forefront of the effort to increase understanding of smoke-free products and advanced tobacco harm reductions among consumers and regulators. We are encouraged by the increasing number of governments adopting tobacco harm reduction policies through incentivize switching to reduced nicotent product instead of continuing to smoke, which is a sound public health policy. A number of markets are also moving favorably with regards to robust regulation of nicotine pouches and the vapor. Now regretfully, there is also resistance in many places, often driven by ideology, not facts and science and therefore a considerable amount of work is still in front of us. While reaching important milestones is pleasing, after 10 years, we are still in the early stages of industry transformation. With our strong brands and our innovative and commercial capabilities, we have many years of opportunities and growth ahead. I look-forward to sharing more with you at the upcoming COGNY conference on February 19. I will now hand over to Emmanuel to discuss our results and outlook in more detail.

Emmanuel Babeau
Chief Financial Officer at Philip Morris International

Thank you, Yatzek. I will start with the headline financials for the year. As said, this was a truly outstanding year of growth across our business as the rapid progress of IQOS and US ZYN was complemented by emerging growth contribution from VIVE and ZYN internationally and a much-improved combustible performance. We delivered in-line or above our last communicated expectation across key metrics: organic net revenue growth of plus 9.8%, adjusted IMS and shipments of HTUs and combustible pricing of plus 8.7% were strong. Excellent total shipment volume growth of plus 2.9%, including zin and combustible volumes performed at the top-end of our expectations. Coupled with accelerated cost efficiencies, this led to better-than-expected plus 14.9% organic operating income growth and plus 15.6% currency-neutral adjusted diluted earnings per share growth. Our clear focus on delivering performance in dollar terms was reflected in the plus 9.3% growth in adjusted diluted EPS. As a result, we achieved record operating cash-flow of $12.2 billion, which was significantly above both our initial and most recent forecast, supported by excellent profit delivery and favorable working capital. Combined with strong adjusted EBITDA, this allowed us to significantly improve our leverage ratio, which I'll come back to later. We closed the year strongly in Q4 with organic net revenue growth of plus 7.3% despite the impact of timing and comparison effect, most notably related to Red Sea disruption, the EU characterizing flavor ban for HTUs and pre-launch ILUMA eye device shipments. This was driven by total volume growth of plus 2.3% alongside positive smoke-free mix and robust pricing. Combined with operating leverage and manufacturing efficiencies, we delivered close to plus 12% organic operating income growth and plus 10% currency-neutral adjusted diluted EPS growth. In dollar terms, adjusted operating income increased plus 15% and adjusted diluted earnings per share grew plus 14% to $1.55. This includes a positive currency impact of $0.06, which reflects an unfavorable transactional impact in the prior year in Argentina, as well as the move to hyper-inflationary accounting in Egypt, which also had a negative impact on our organic growth of around 1 point on-net revenues and 2 points on operating income. The non-cash impairment of our equity investment had no impact on our adjusted financials. In future, we may benefit from AirbH dividend income, but we do not include any impact in our 2025 forecast at this time. Let's take a step-back and consider 2024 in the context of the last few years. Our organic top-line delivery has been consistently strong since the pandemic and further accelerated this year as both smoke-free product and combustible stepped-up their trajectory. Clearly, 2024 was also a standout year for adjusted diluted EPS growth. The profitability of our smoke-free business accelerated due to the operating leverage of ICO's increasing scale, favorable unit economics, pricing, efficiency and the impressive accretion from Zyn's rapid growth at superior US margins. We also benefited from a notably robust combustible performance, which provide important structural support for our transformation journey. These dynamics are further demonstrated by the organic top-line and gross profit growth of both categories in the year. Our smoke-free business accelerated to plus 17% net revenue growth and plus 23% gross profit growth, reaching close to $10 billion in gross profit. This drove an impressive plus 330 basis-points of organic gross margin expansion, fueled by the factors I just mentioned. On the combustible side, net revenue and gross profit grew organically by plus 6% and plus 7% respectively, leading to plus 60 basis-points of organic gross margin expansion. Our combustible business is once again contributing positively with pricing and cost-efficiency more than compensating for the third year of significant input cost headwinds, which we expect to ease in 2025. I would also note that adjusted gross margin for smoke-free product were plus 490 basis-points higher than combustible in Q4 and plus 270 basis-points higher for the year overall at 66.6%. While we continue to target gross margin expansion in combustible, we expect this gap to grow over-time as we continue to drive profitable growth from smoke-free product while investing in new market, brand-building and innovation. Now taking a closer look now at our volume performance, we delivered our fourth consecutive year of shipment growth, up plus 2.3% in the 4th-quarter and close to plus 3% for the full-year. Including our Viv evapor business in equivalent unit, this growth was plus 2.4% and plus 3% respectively. Our total 2024 smoke-free volume growth, including VIV was plus 13.5% or 19 billion unit equivalent, an acceleration compared to 2023. For IQOS, we delivered HTU adjusted in-market sales growth of close to 13% and shipment volumes of $139.7 billion, both broadly in-line with our expectation. Adjusted IMS growth accelerated in H2 to close to 14%, essentially in-line with our target of plus 14% to plus 15%. This includes dynamic growth of close to plus 11% in Europe with strong momentum across the large majority of markets. As I touched on earlier, Q4 HTU shipment growth includes the impact of additional shipments in the prior year to prepare for the EU characterizing flavor ban and the phasing effect of additional shipment to Japan in H1, notably due to disruption. Our oral smoke-free business grew 2024 shipment volume by plus 24.6%, including US growth of plus 51% to 581 million cans. Snuffs and volumes were stable. Cigarette shipments grew by plus 0.6%, approximately in-line with the estimated growth of the international industry. The growth of the cigarette market can be largely attributed to growth in-markets where smoke-free products are not permitted such as Turkey, Brazil and India. Excluding such markets, we observe a low single-digit decline consistent with historic trends. Our strong full-year top-line growth of almost plus 10% was again achieved through a combination of volume growth, pricing and the positive mix impact of the shift to smoke-free product. Pricing contributed plus 6.2%, reflecting almost plus 9% combustible pricing and plus 2% for smoke-free product. Smoke-free also drove a positive mix impact of plus 1.9% due to the higher net revenue per unit of both IQOS and Zyn, overall smoke-free product contributed plus 2.2% to overall Group top-line growth for the year, demonstrating Zyn's role as a meaningful accelerator to our performance. As in prior years, geographic mix was negative, primarily due to combustible, but to a lesser degree given robust net revenue growth in Europe. Moving down to adjusted operating margins, we delivered full-year organic expansion of plus 180 basis-points and plus 100 basis-points in dollar terms, comfortably achieving our objective of expansion on both basis. This reflects a strong Q4 with OI margin expanding organically by plus 140 basis-points as gross margin expansion outweighed SG&A investments. Full-year gross margins increased organically by plus 160 basis-points and by plus 120 basis-points in dollar terms. SG&A drove plus 20 basis-points of margin expansion enabled by cost-efficiency action despite significant reinvestment and commercial support behind our small food business and US capabilities, especially in HP. We delivered over $750 million in gross cost-efficiency for the year with COGS productivity across smoke-free and combustible and continued back-office savings. This places us well on-track for our '24-'26 target of $2 billion. Focusing on our smoke-free business, we grew our estimated user base by over 5 million people in 2024 to reach approximately 38.6 million legal edge users as of December. This includes an estimated 32.2 million ICO users, 5.7 million oral users and 1 million users. I am pleased to report robust ICOS user growth of plus 3.4 million versus prior year and plus 1.5 million during HP. This growth is broad-based and consistent with recent years despite limited new market opening and the characterizing the bank. Overall added plus 1.5 million users year-on-year, driven by continued strong traction with legal-aged consumer in the US despite supply constraints. Zooming in now on IQOS. Home user momentum is reflected in adjusted IMS volume with 2024 growth of over 15 billion units, in-line with the prior year despite the impact of the EU flavor dynamic. This growth is also in-line with the five-year average and more than 1 billion units above when excluding contribution from markets launched in the current or preceding year. Importantly, following the rollout of and with the increasing scale of the business, the profitability of IQOS is growing strongly. We illustrate this year with the index product contribution over-time at constant rates. As we've explained before, the upcoming cost of the business-to-consumer operation results in declining in-process per user over-time as the user count grows in the market. This is a dynamic we expect to continue in the future. Turning to. As expected, HTU adjusted IMS growth accelerated strongly in H2 to almost plus 11%, following H1 progression of around 8%. This resulted in robust plus 9.4% growth overall for the year despite the significant destruction of the characterizing. This double-digit adjusted IMS growth in H2 was driven by strong progress in a large number of markets, including growth of around 20% or more in-markets such as Bulgaria, Greece, Germany, Romania and Spain, while growth was less dynamic in Poland, Czech Republic and Italy. Recovery in Italy is ongoing following the disruption of the band, although at a slightly slower pace than expected in Q4. The continued momentum in the region drove Q4 adjusted share growth of plus 0.9 points year-on-year to 10.6% with adjusted IMS volume reaching 13.5 billion units on a four-quarter moving average. Q4 shipment volumes increased by plus 6% against the prior year comparison, which included additional volumes related to the implementation of the ban, notably in Italy. The band is now active in all that 60 new markets with a generally consistent pattern of short-term disruption followed by a return to the pre-ban growth trajectory. Following an impact of around 2 billion units in 2024, we expected a 2025 impact of around EUR1 billion on both segment and IMS, including annualization effect with the most prominent effect in the fourth -- in the first-quarter of 2025. We also continue to roll-out the ILUMA I device and new consumable variants such as and Lydia to more markets, providing an increasing choice of test profile and price point by this. Looking at our of tech shares in Europe, we reached a number of important milestones with achieving over 40% share, Rome over 30% and London approaching 10% with Madrid not far behind. Japan delivered outstanding results yet again with HTU adjusted IMS growth of close to plus 13% in both the quarter and the full-year to reach an adjusted Q4 share of 30.6%, plus 3.1 points higher year-on-year. This was supported by continued share growth of Terra and as well as a positive fraction of the IQOS eye device as we reach over 9.5 million adult users. Share in Tokyo for the overall eat not done category reached 52.8% in December with the addition of and in 10 cities and five exceeding the 50% share threshold. On a national offtake basis, 47% of the total industry is now. Outside of Europe and Japan, adjusted in marketplace growth continued to grow strongly in Q4. Promising growth in a number of markets is illustrated by TCP shares in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and Mexico. Continuous innovation is a key driver of this growth with steria variants and capsule in Indonesia, driving an uplift in the quarter and some good initial results on the trial of, our lower tie -- our lower-tier offering. IQOS continues to perform well in, though share performance was impacted by the dynamic of the combustible market where competitor supply normalized and a very strong prior year quarter following the launch of ITV market. Our duty-free HPE offset share increased nicely as we start to harness the strength of our multi-category portfolio, drive sales of IQOS, and Viv together. Turning now to the US where our IQOS will be the first campaign in Austin is progressing well and we expect to commence direct sales of device and HPUs in around the end of Q1. We are seeing high-interest from consumers with over 4,000 adult smokers on our. As we learned from this initial consumer engagement, we are planning the rollout of pilots to other cities. As you know seen, our focus will be on selective adult consumer engagement and building awareness to category and brand education in legal-edge smoker communities. We do not assume any significant volume from US IQOS before the at-scale launch of IQOS ILUMA and we continue to hope for an every authorization in H2 2025. Switching categories now to zinc, where we continued where continued strong demand supported Q4 US shipment volume growth of plus 42% year-on-year to 165 million ton. Despite ongoing production limitation, this reflects an acceleration to a near-record sequential increase of plus 16 million tons versus Q2. On a full-year basis, shipment volumes grew by plus 196 million tons versus 2023, highlighting both the magnitude of growth and the tremendous effort made to maximize our production capacity. Zin category share incrementally improved through the second-half, reaching 55.9% in Q4 as we progress in increasing production further supported the growth of the category. Indeed, category growth slowed significantly during the summer peak of our supply constraint as shown on this chart. As the situation started to gradually improve, ZYN was again leading and outpacing the category. I am pleased to share that underlying demand for zinc from adult consumer continued to grow in Q4 and was higher than previously assumed. We continue to experience some out-stock at retail and while production capacity continues to increase, we now target full normalization sometime in the second-half of 2025. We continue to target around 900 million tons of capacity for the full-year from our Kentucky facility and as supply continues to improve, we will look to further expand growth beyond our existing consumer base to other legalized users. Our greenfield site in Colorado is due to come online in early 2026 and we believe we are well-positioned to capture this potential over the coming years. Responsible regulation of the industry is fundamental in supporting sustainable future growth for this dynamic category. We are therefore encouraged by the recent FDA authorization for the marketing and sale of all zin currently marketed in the US following extensive scientific review by the agency. As mentioned, this makes the first and only authorized pouch in the market. Among several consideration was a substantially lower amount of harmful constituent versus cigarette and other smokeless tobacco products as well as current low usage levels. The FDA's authorization marks an important step-in the protection of public health by recognizing the role that zinc can play in providing better alternatives to cigarettes and other traditional tobacco products for legal age adults. We remain committed to driving industry standards in under 21 prevention with policy and initiatives designed to help prevent you access. Further, converting trade-in tobacco and nicotine products remain a core priority and we dedicate a significant level of resources to support this growth also has an exciting future outside of the US. While still in its very early stages, international pork shipments grew by 27 million ton or plus 75% and we already see strong volume momentum in key international markets such as Pakistan, South Africa, Mexico, the UK and Global. We launched nicotine pouches in 16 market during the quarter to reach a total of 37 worldwide, including Italy, Romania and Thailand. Within evapor, we continue to see strong consumer traction behind Viv One. The brand holds a top three postpot position in 13 European markets and as the number-one position in five, including Italy. These plays an important role within our multi-category strategy as an increasingly trusted choice for smoke-free category quality users as a source of incremental growth with improving economics. Our primary focus for the combustible business is to maximize value over-time, while supporting the growth of the. Pricing and cost efficiencies are the key levers to drive performance while maintaining our category leadership. We delivered another robust volume quarter with growth of plus 1.1%. All regions contributed to strong Q4 organic net revenue growth of plus 6.2% with gross profit increasing by plus 10.8%. Full-year pricing of plus 8.7% includes strong contribution from Germany, Egypt and Turkey. We expect organic 2025 combustible pricing to normalize to plus 5% to plus 6%, partly reflecting Egypt move to higher inflationary accounting in Q4 2024. Category share was flat in Q4 with positive contribution from Turkey and India, offset by decline in Egypt and Indonesia with continued growth in the below Tier-1 segment. On a full-year basis, we grew category share plus 0.1 points, reaching all-time high for both Marlboro and our global brands overall. This brings me to the outlook for 2025, where we expect another year of strong growth from all categories driving top and bottom-line delivery. We anticipate a fifth consecutive year of positive volumes with growth of up to plus 2%, notably driven by another year of strong growth in smoke-free products at around plus 12% to plus 14%. For IQOS, we expect a continuation of strong momentum with the absolute growth in HPU adjusted IMS volume expected to be at a similar level to 2024, translating into plus 10 to plus 12 growth 10% -- 12% growth. We expect shipment growth to be broadly in-line with this double-digit trajectory subject to the usual inherent volatility of shipment timing and trade inventory movement. We expect ongoing strong growth dynamic within the US nicotine pouch category. Despite the supply constraint I mentioned before, we forecast a US zin volume shipment range of 780 million to 820 million ton for the year, supported by capacity expansion. This represents another year of substantial acceleration in volumes with an expected increase of approximately 200 to 240 million can compared to the $196 million can increase in 2024. This supports a total PMI forecast of plus 6% to plus 8% organic net revenue growth. This includes a headwind of over 100 basis-points due to hyper-inflationary accounting in Egypt and the technical impact of implementing a new financial model in the Indonesia below Tier-1 segment. The change in Indonesia has no effect on operating income. Moving down to the P&L, we expect ongoing smoke free mix effect, operating leverage and cost-efficiency to drive double-digit adjusted operating growth -- income growth of plus 10.5% to plus 12.5%. This includes strong gross profit growth with both gross and adjusted operating margin forecast to expand in both organic and adjusted dollar terms at prevailing exchange rates. We expect SG&A cost to increase broadly in-line with net revenue on an organic basis as we invest behind our. We forecast currency-neutral adjusted diluted EPS growth of plus 10.5% to plus 12.5%. This factors in essentially stable net interest expense and an increase in our effective corporate tax-rate to approximately 22.5% to 22.5% due to tax increases in-line with OECD plusive global minimum tax and the mix of international earnings. In dollar terms, we forecast growth of plus 7% to plus 9% to a range of $7.4 to $7.17. This includes an unfavorable forecast currency impact of $0.22 at prevailing exchange rates, primarily driven by the broad strength of the dollar mitigated by our hedging activities. For the first-quarter of 2025, we expect a strong start to the year with net revenue and operating income growth broadly in-line with our full-year objective despite the comparison. We forecast HPU adjusted IMS growth of around plus 10%, which factors in the large annualization impact from the easing flavor ban in the quarter with a progressive improvement through the year. We forecast shipment volume of 35 billion to 36 billion for HPUs and 170 million to 180 million can for US zin. We project Q1 adjusted diluted EPS of $1.58 to $1.63, including a negative currency variance of $0.04 at prevailing rates and an effective corporate tax-rate two to three points higher than the prior year quarter. With our 2024 delivery and 2025 outlook, we are well-positioned to meet or exceed all metrics of the '24-'26 target targets presented at our 2023 Investor Day. This is especially true at the level of operating income growth as well as for EPS delivery where our algorithm assumed constant 2022 corporate tax-rate. This level of top and bottom-line growth reflects a best-in-class growth profile within the context of large-cap consumer packages. Importantly, we're also well on-track to deliver high single-digit adjusted diluted EBITDA growth in dollar terms across the 2024 2026 period at prevailing exchange rate. Indeed, we measure our cash flows in dollar and after a record delivery in 2024, we expect to deliver operating cash-flow of around $11 billion for 2025. This is broadly in-line with 2024 once accounting for three non-recurring payments with a total impact of around $1 billion. While we continue to achieve the German tax recharge case, we have decided to make a $0.8 billion payment this year and we also anticipate a final transition tax payment-related to the US Tax and Jobs Act. We anticipate capital expenditure of around $1.5 billion with a large portion of this related to as we prioritize the investment behind our project. Our strong 2024 cash-flow and EBITDA growth combined with a favorable impact from our euro balance sheet hedging allowed us to reduce our net-debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio by 0.5 times to 2.66, ahead of our expectation and representing a dramatic acceleration of our deleveraging. We expect further progress in 2025, placing us on-track for our target ratio of around 2 times by the end of 2026. I will now turn it back to for concluding remarks.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Thank you, Manuel. In summary -- in summary, 2024 was a remarkable year for PMI. Our financial results epitomize the strength of our strategy and the success of our transformation with underlying momentum across categories, bolstered by our proactive measures on pricing and cost-efficiency. I remain confident in our position as the global smoke food as we continue to execute on our multi-category strategy with leading premium brands, cost, and Z. Our key strategic priorities for 2025 are clear as we continue to support the expansion and development of our smoke business both in the US and internationally. We expect continued strong momentum in 2025 and we remain confident in our ability to deliver or exceed our 2024 2026 growth targets as we progress towards our ambition of becoming substantially by 2030. Finally and importantly, our strong growth outlook and highly cash-generative business enables us to continue reinvesting in our smoke transformation while returning cash to shareholders. In September, we increased our annual dividend for the 17th consecutive year in-line with our long-term commitment. Thank you, and Manuel and I will be happy now to answer your questions.

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Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please standby while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question today comes from Matt Smith of Stifel. Your line is open.

Matt Smith
Analyst at Stifel Nicolaus

Hi, and Emmanuel.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Good morning, Matt.

Matt Smith
Analyst at Stifel Nicolaus

My question. The 2025 outlook calls for HTU shipments in numbers or in-market sales growth, fairly in-line with what you saw in 2024. But could you talk about the composition of the growth if it's overall in-line, are you seeing different contribution by geography in your outlook? And can you remind us on if there has been any progress in new markets contributing to growth in 2025 or if you've made any progress in those markets as you look out to your 2026 goals? Thank you.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Now, so in the guide guidance, residential is continue seeing good growth in Japan and in the number of parts in Europe, I mean Manuel mentioned about the Italy, Czech, Poland, right, when the growth is a bit below what we would expect at this stage, especially Italy and Czech following the flavor to ban. But we also see that there is some recovery coming in. So I think hopefully in the second part of the year, we should bring Italy and other geographies at part to what the rest of the Europe is going through. And we have not in the guidance assume any significant new market opening in terms of the volume. And as you know, we -- and I had it in my remarks, I mean, we're dealing with this rational word fighting with the rational word. I hope that the most recent authorizations of FDA following the authorizations of heat not bird now the pouches will be a good incentive or encouragement by other governments, which to be very frank, stupidly oppose smoke-free products while allowing cigarettes. But in a guidance, we have not put any significant volume coming from the new geography. So this is all organic growth and as you could saw it in the for the quarters of this year, despite the fact given if you look at Japan when almost half of the market is already on a -- on a smoke-free products, the growth continues there.

Matt Smith
Analyst at Stifel Nicolaus

You, yes, I'll pass it on.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Bonnie of Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Bonnie Herzog
Analyst at The Goldman Sachs Group

All right. Thank you. Hi, Emmanuel and Yassic. Had a question on your margins. You're guiding robust operating leverage on a currency-neutral basis this year. So hoping you could highlight the -- some of the key drivers behind this. Also, sort of wanted to verify if your guidance assumes a potential entry of ILUMA US or just possibly continued investments without any corresponding sales? And then how should we think about the margin contribution from Illuma in the US and how long it might take after your entry here in the market for those margins to really be meaningful.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Yeah. So maybe I started,, good morning. Is there -- I mean, yes, we're looking for a robust margin expansion this year, maybe not precisely to the same level as we had last year, but still going to be robust. I think in a 100 basis-points, so territory, this is what we're looking into is that combinations of a few factors, we're still looking at the pricing contribution is pretty obvious. There's obviously positive mix, right, between the categories and especially now that we have a free smoke-free categories are on the positive to margin path, including day vape. So we are very happy that you know our strategy of going selectively, but you know, with the right impacts in the geographies that is needed, we're not really leaving money behind, if you like, margin behind. So this will contribute. And we've had in the past, as you remember, quite a headwinds -- headwinds coming from a COGS and I think those have -- I think they are behind us, okay? And obviously, this all the conversations this day is here and there, especially coming from the US about the tariffs and so on. But the way we organize our supply-chain, as you know, US on the zone is essentially self-sufficient. Our supply chains in Europe, I mean, we organized our supply-chain almost by block. So I don't see at this -- at this stage that there should be any surprises coming on the tariff side. So I think we're pretty confident where we'll land with the COGS through the year. There is obviously ongoing support coming from the scale of ICOS, especially devices when okay, there was economy of scale, there was a robustness of the device in terms of quality, et-cetera. So we actually don't have this like in the past, a bit of a pressure on the margins are coming from a device serve. So this we have well stabilized for 2024 to us behind the margin expansion. And I think we -- we should expect the same -- we are expecting the same in '25. Now your questions with regards to ILUMA margins US, okay, maybe one-by-one, we still expect that hopefully, you know, we will get authorization for ICOS ILUMA around the mid of this year. Again, on the one-hand, one could read this as encouragement that after, as we said thorough scientific, etc review, FDA has gave authorizations for all variants of the I wouldn't be my wouldn't be myself if I wouldn't comment that obviously something takes five years, it must be thorought because otherwise I cannot explain the length of the process, but I do hope that FDA will move faster and already I could do my spending for a while and by the way, a few other also authorization for Zen. So the margin story, I would repeat myself that obviously, when we start adding a support behind -- behind, I mean, the initial period will be a negative, right? But in a scheme of the things and the P&L size, if you like of our business in the US, I don't think it should be something which is that much worried. And I believe US will go in the similar path as we had on a kidnote burn-in other places. So two to three years, we should -- IQOS should be net-net contributor to the bottom-line are bearing in mind as always reminding everyone that we don't really have the headwind of cannibalization, right? So we don't really -- we're in a better starting position. And we -- we had a growing confidence in the IQOS ILUMA international, but we know where IQOS ILUMA brought us on international over the last three years and it continues generating the growth user acquisition. So I believe it's really a great proposition for adult smokers in the US.

Emmanuel Babeau
Chief Financial Officer at Philip Morris International

Maybe just to complement on the margin side, Bonnie. As you can -- Judge, from our guidance, we have significant ambition in terms of margin improvement in 2025. And what is driving that is the fact that we are flying on several engine here on margin improvement and everything is coming together positively at the same time. So indeed, we have, of course, the mix evolution that is very favorable to us with smoke-free product coming with a higher-margin and they are growing very fast. Among the smoke-free products, we have the US and zin that is growing even faster and which, as we already said, is best-in-class in terms of margins. So that's obviously a plus. We are also increasing price. Yes, of course, we're not going to continue to deliver 8% plus price increase on combustible, but it's going to remain extremely robust. Robust and we also have the ambition to grow our price not at the same level, but significantly on our smoke-free portfolio. And then when we look at our COGS, we are working on productivity. They have scale effect that are delivering positively. And as you know, we were facing until now a significant headwind on cost, notably on the combustible business. This is easing, '25 should be better and '26 could be even better than '25 by the way. So we are going-in the right direction there and that is making us clearly targeting nice margin improvement both organically and in dollar terms for '25.

Bonnie Herzog
Analyst at The Goldman Sachs Group

Okay, super helpful. And actually. I'm just going to ask a quick follow-up because you kind of touched on this, but you also mentioned this morning about targeting or you're continuing to target gross margin expansion in combustibles. And then you did say that you expect the gap to grow relative to your smoke-free product gross margin. So previously you guys have talked about I think a 10 point gap. So as your gross margins expand on combustibles, I think what I'm hearing you say is that not only is that an opportunity, but also continued margin expansion on smoke freeze, which you just mentioned. So do you foresee that gap expanding? I mean, does it go to 15 point spread or could it go to 20? Just kind of trying to think through that in the next couple of years.

Emmanuel Babeau
Chief Financial Officer at Philip Morris International

Look, on the consumable, we've already highlighted the fact that there was a 10 percentage point gap and it has been expanding in the last few years. So indeed, we have the ambition to do better on the gross margin for combustible and we explain why. But as we continue to progress also rapidly on smoke-free products and both with the mix effect coming from ZYN, but separately on IQOS and zin, we want to continue to progress. And so we could have indeed a gap that could continue to expand between smoke-free product and combustible in the coming years.

Bonnie Herzog
Analyst at The Goldman Sachs Group

All right. Thank you. I'll pass it on.

Emmanuel Babeau
Chief Financial Officer at Philip Morris International

Thank you.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Thank you,.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Greg Jain of Barclays. Your line is open.

Gaurav Jain
Analyst at Barclays

Good morning, Emmanuel and Jaside. Thank you for asking my questions. There were a couple of questions. One is on ZIM. So if I look at the scatter data, your volumes have decelerated to mid-teens growth and your guidance is for 34% to 41% growth. And then you also mentioned that the supply normalization would only happen in 2H '25. So just wanted to understand what gives us the confidence that certainly then will be accelerating to this almost 40% growth rate again.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Yeah. So I will take it, Gaurav. Good morning. So we look also on how the volumes were evolving in Q4 or the weeks of the last quarter, we see the growing velocities behind Zen and actually there was the only brand, I think over the last few weeks, which was growing in the velocities, not the rest of the -- at least the big four other brands or smaller but big other brands. Look, we also have to understand that we're reading all this data with no full supply of the supply-constrained environment, right? So it's a bit difficult that you see at the retail, it depends even in which source you're looking at that something which will be significantly different than what we shipping to the trade. But Q4, as we predicted with the increased capacity on Owensboro, we had the first-quarter with the significant sequential quarter-on-quarter growth. And even if you will take the run-rate of what we see the last two weeks, et-cetera, I think that the guidance is somehow reflecting what we see there. Now our comments that we should -- we think that we should be meeting demand by about mid of this year. I have to make one reservation is that it's difficult to actually read what the demand is because we know what is the level of out-of-stock. We know what is the existing users of demand for the product and knowing that this purchases of the purchases are somehow impacted by the fact that unfortunately, they are confronted with the lack of lack of availability -- availability out-of-stock and that is the all the positive momentum which Desen has. I believe also the FDA authorizations which you know, on the one-hand one could read, product was in the market so there is no change but actually I think it gives a lot of visibility and stability to all the market participants, including the trade. And I believe also the consumers that the product now has the full fledge, my language authorization in all of flavor variants. So all of these things are I think will translate into the volumes which we -- or projections of the volumes which were reflected in our guidance.

Gaurav Jain
Analyst at Barclays

Sure. And a follow-up question to that, present clearly in supply shortage, retailers have been putting their markups. I think you increased prices by $0.30 last year, while retail has increased pricing by $1 or $3, $5. How do you control retail price? And is there a way for you to, as supply normalizes to reduce retail price so that will also have a positive effect on your volume.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Yeah. So if you have a degree of doubt of stock as Zen is experiencing, it's obviously for managing the price at the retail level is a little bit more challenging, right? I mean it's pretty obvious. But I believe with the growing demand sorry, with the growing supply of the product, I think this pricing will come to some sort of naturality to the normalizations. I have to also admit that, look, we are very happy with the support we're getting from a retailers handling our products and it's not that easy for them also to be confronted with a product which on the one-hand has the demand on the other hand, they cannot realize their margins and you know, they take from a price and I hope -- but again, I think that this pricing situations in the market will sort up somehow naturally at the moment when the product will be in a full unconstrained suppliers as we said, second-half of '25, we should start seeing -- we should start seeing improvement on this.

Gaurav Jain
Analyst at Barclays

Sure. And if I could just squeeze in one last question on. Could you just talk about that PLTA, what the product is and when do you think we can see it in the market?

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Yeah. So obviously, as well as we all know notice the authorization came essentially last days or hours of the one administrations. Now I guess we'll have to wait for the new authorization, for the new administration look, as I said in the answer to the questions before that I do hope that period of four or five years waiting for authorization is too much, is too long. And I do believe that there will be some -- I hope there will be some accelerations in the processing because of the authorizations. And we have to also understand that partially the challenge which the US market has very much on the product is by the fact that the legal part of the market has not been created. So on the one-hand, FDA is doing a lot of right things in terms of a law enforcement and chasing the illegal Chinese or whatever imports. But on the other hand, there is a demand among smokers, adult nicotine users for this type of a product and unless we create well in a fast manner the legal part of that market and then we're essentially are wasting our time and money. So I do believe that FDA will take this also into considerations that this situation shouldn't happen in our product categories and if there is a demand for the product which I recognized as a better alternative to figure out, we also have an interest in in the legal part of the market and then a more for the law enforcement, et-cetera, the illicit market, but you cannot just control the illicit market if you haven't provided the legal solutions in the market, which are available. So I do believe that the ICOS -- sorry, IQOS as well, but then has some pending authorizations or applications, I should say. I do believe that they're going to be processed in a faster -- in a faster manner than before.

Gaurav Jain
Analyst at Barclays

Yes. Thank you so much.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Thank you,.

Operator

Thank you. And as a reminder, if you have a question, please press star 11. And our next question comes from Eric of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Eric Serotta
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks, guys. Hoping you guys give some color in terms of what you're seeing in Italy. You mentioned that the 4th-quarter was a little bit softer than you had anticipated after the nice recovery you saw in the 3rd-quarter from the characterizing flavor ban? And then in terms of Poland, can you remind us when -- when you expect to see some disruption from the ban being implemented and what sort of an impact you expect in terms of overall European combustibles business? And then lastly, on FX, it seems like the FX headwind that you called out for the year in the guidance was a bit less than what seems to be implied based on spot rates and your typical yen hedge. Wondering if there's been any change in the hedging policy or if there's any reason why it may be a bit lower-than-anticipated? Thank you.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Yeah. So maybe I take the last one is the easiest one and I come back to Italy, which is a bit longer story. I mean in a $0.22 at spot rates right now, I mean, frankly speaking, the biggest contributor to the negative is the Russian and that's well-above the 60% of the variance. The yen actually goes in a sense. I guess it was, if I recall, about $0.04 in our estimates that the spot rate obviously, as we all know, we're living in the pretty dynamic times as we speak, but this is what it is. There was a big contribution last year coming from the Egyptian pound, right, when I mean we had to take it a hit that obviously will not be repeated in the -- will not repeating that in '25, actually this will result in a positive currency. But this is on the currency. So frankly speaking, at this stage is a ruble and as I said, $0.04 or so on the end and the rest is just the mixed value due to our international footprint. Emanuel wants to add something?

Emmanuel Babeau
Chief Financial Officer at Philip Morris International

No, I want to add something because I think, I mean, the volatility we're seeing on the currency market today is probably a good torture test on how things are working for us. And I should first remind you that we have a natural important hedging in our balance sheet with more than 60% of our debt that is in euro. And therefore, when we have a weakness in the euro versus dollar, which is a situation we've seen recently, of course, we have a negative impact on our P&L, but we have also a decrease of our debt in dollar terms. And we are also benefiting from lower-cost of the debt in Europe, plus of course lower interest-rate interest cost in euro translated into dollar. So that has been certainly helping our trajectory in '24. And if there was continued weakness of the euro, that would continue to help us in the future. Probably what is not fully captured by the market is the fact that indeed on-top of that, we have two significant hedge position, one on our exposure to the yen for 2025. We have around 60% of our exposure that is covered at a rate of around JPY138 yen for JPY1. So that means that we are not impacted by the possible deterioration of the yen that part of our exposure. And we have also a lower exposure to a lower hedging, sorry, on euro, where we have around a bit more than one-fifth -- sorry, one-fourth of our exposure to euro where we are covered at 112, which is also limiting a bit the impact on the P&L when the euro is going down. So with everything I've been saying, you have all the explanation because has been sharing with you on the ForEx impact for us today.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Yeah. Now on Italy, so I think, yes, the second-half was a bit weaker than we would maybe expect. Italy was going as many average, not all, but many other member states of the EU through the flavor ban. I think what we see is that, okay, some smokers, some users have helped temporarily the return to cigarettes, which always was the risk. So it also explains in some geographies, the cigarette trends are slightly or better than one could expect or could think. There is some polyuse between the products very much. And that I believe maybe partially also explains why our VIF proposition advanced most in Italy, right? And this was in a a pots in a close system very shortly after a short period of time jump to travel to the number-one proposition. So I think we need to maybe look at the category of a smoke-free over a period of time on a total basis because there will be some poly usage and sometimes driven by the events like this by this flavors ban. But we also have a geographies in Europe that very shortly after the implementation of the -- of the ingredient -- of the flavors ban, I mean, they actually return to the growth rates which we had before. So maybe Italy is our client. We're looking into this whole thing. But as I said, a part of our multi-category strategy is also should there be any leakage that they not-burn users, we can capture this with our proposition. And then I guess we need a bit more time to see the stabilization. Poland, you asked about the Poland. I don't think Poland has put the stick in the ground at which moment they really want to fully implement the. I think somewhere in a 25 minute has to be if this is not if the speak has not been put in the ground, it is more towards the end of this year.

Eric Serotta
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

You great thanks so much.

Emmanuel Babeau
Chief Financial Officer at Philip Morris International

Thank you.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you and our next question comes from of UBS. Your line is open.

Faham Baig
Analyst at UBS Group

Good morning, guys. Thank you for the questions. Hi guys. A couple from me as well. Firstly on Zen again in the US. We noticed a couple of your peers have launched synthetic moist nicotine products and according to the scanner data have seen some initial uptick. How do you see the moist versus dry dynamic in the US and where do you think the consumer may end-up in the future, recognizing that in Europe, most products are moist? And the second question maybe comes back to your comments around Italy. But just longer-term, we see the vapor category continuing to grow quite strongly and we can discuss its flaws around flavors, marketing, underage use, et-cetera. But do you see this as a headwind for the tobacco industry? Or do you believe the total pie can continue to grow with limited impact on tobacco?

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Yeah. So maybe the second part I take it, I think the total pie grows despite the fact that the movements between the categories within a smoke free there is some dynamics, right, between a heat noteburn and, but a pouches now depends how market is organized and regulated. We also know that know, the most difficult actually to read category are due to the way the market is organized currently is the e-vape category, right, because you have a disposables, you have pots, you have open tank systems still and some products are under the regulations and properly authorized depends on the jurisdiction, some products are just popping up in the market. So you could Call-IT the different forms of LSE trade. But I think you see this in the US, but also in Europe, in the UK and a few other places, our regulators, governments are taking more a serious look into properly organizing that market. I can't tell you whether this will be completed in '25, but definitely there is a -- the moves of the movements -- the moves are in the right direction. So I believe, '25, '26, the category should be normalized by the fact that it's going to be properly regulated and then we take it from there. And I don't want to talk about the yield for exposure, et-cetera, because we for our policy, you know what our views on this one, but definitely it's difficult to control of the discipline in the market if you're dealing with all of the different imminations of the product coming essentially legally to the marketplace. It obviously also enjoys the less disciplined trade channel, so completely invisible trade channels, if you like, et-cetera. When it comes to your questions about the synthetic event versus dry, so just to take it from a perspective, the way we look at the data in the US, for example, this whole new things which are coming into the market, there is quite a long list of different SKUses and the moist of others and you know this whole market, that part of the market, if I'm not mistaking, move year-on-year by barely 20 basis-points. So in a scheme of the, there's presumably a lot of dynamics on the on the on the weekly basis, but doesn't seem that it has any major tractions, etc. The insights which we have when we talk with consumers, we see how -- and obviously, when you read the consumer insight, it's not a pure mathematical accuracy and the exact number, but I think that the moist product -- moist pouch products is more appealing to the moist snauff type of users, right, like snooze, etc. While what we see in the marketplace that the dry product has more appear towards the smokers and evaper or. What is what I can tell you at this stage.

Faham Baig
Analyst at UBS Group

Thank you guys. Really appreciate that.

Emmanuel Babeau
Chief Financial Officer at Philip Morris International

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our last question today comes from Philip Stane of JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Philip Spain
Analyst at J.P. Morgan

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks very much for taking my questions. And I just had just had one question please. It was just on the HTU guidance. If I look at where the volumes landed at the end of '24 and then I look at the guidance range, you've -- the 10% to 12% you've guided to for '25. But then just extrapolating that out for '26 and looking at your guidance there of the $180 million to $200 million and of shipment volume. Just trying to get a sense of what gives you confidence in -- by my math that implies acceleration in the growth in 2026. I just wanted to understand, I suppose, what do you see that confidence that you will see that reacceleration in 2026. Thank you.

Jacek Olczak
Chief Executive Officer and Director at Philip Morris International

Thank you. Yeah. So as I said earlier, I mean, in the guidance for this year for '25, we essentially stayed very low into -- we essentially focused on organic growth in-markets, existing markets. And obviously, if you open the '25 and beyond '26, I think it's becoming maybe more prudent or fair to assume that there will be some geographies also coming finally and opening the markets to the new proposition. There is one point which I maybe we haven't articulated well in the -- in our remarks and the answers to the questions before is that there is still about a 20 or so percent of the volumes on the burn that we don't really do what we would can't really realize the full growth potential. And I'm referring here to the geographies of Russia and Ukraine now for obvious reasons. But if I was just look at the numbers of '24, I think we have left behind about 0.6 maybe even more point of a growth, which you would normally expect to deliver if all these markets were subject to the same sort of market conditions as other places, right, as, et-cetera. So, okay, let's see how this unwind. I think the growth which we projected very much focus on organic meaning the geographies which we have today on-hand, I think is a good growth, volume terms is essentially the same volume growth as we used to have in the past. But also in a broader sense, we more-and-more see the potential of the multi-category and the total volumes of the smokethru products is just the one category. And as we know very well, the margin -- from the margin perspective, they all -- they all essentially create a great opportunities. I mean they all greatly accretive to where we are today and to especially to the combustibles. Second thing is, and I think we will zoom a little bit more or try to zoom a bit more to this at our CAGNY on -- at our CAGNY presentations. But from the user's perspective is actually pretty nice economic proposition because we're essentially then leveraging all the investments through the user acquisitions, etc. And one of the category obviously takes the burden of acquiring the user, but all the advert product categories actually very nicely benefited from this whole thing. So you will hear from us more-and-more talking, obviously will give you the granularity about the van as in, but I think in the next few years, the focus will be more-and-more turning into total of a smoke-free rather than just the individual because this also somehow reflects the user directions, user or consumer dynamics.

Philip Spain
Analyst at J.P. Morgan

Thank you very much.

Emmanuel Babeau
Chief Financial Officer at Philip Morris International

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would like to turn it back to James for closing remarks.

James Bushnell
Vice President, Investor Relations and Financial Communications at Philip Morris International

Thank you. Before closing our call, I'd like to remind you that as Yasseng mentioned, we will be presenting at the CAGNY Conference on February 19, and we hope you'll be able to join us either in-person or virtually. Thank you again for joining us today. If you have any follow-up questions, please contact the Investor Relations team and have a great day. Thank you.

Emmanuel Babeau
Chief Financial Officer at Philip Morris International

Thank you. Speak to you soon.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.

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    Vice President, Investor Relations and Financial Communications
  • Jacek Olczak
    Chief Executive Officer and Director
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    Chief Financial Officer

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