Suburban Propane Partners Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Suburban Propane Partners First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on 02/06/2025.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference over to Gavin D'Ambrosio, Vice President and Treasurer. Please go ahead.

Davin D'Ambrosio
Davin D'Ambrosio
Vice President & Treasurer at Suburban Propane Partners

Thank you, Jenny. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us this morning for our fiscal twenty twenty five first quarter earnings conference call. Joining me this morning are Mike Stivala, our President and Chief Executive Officer Mike Kuglin, our Chief Financial Officer and Alex Centeno, Senior Vice President, Operations. This morning, we will review our first quarter financial results along with our current outlook for business.

Davin D'Ambrosio
Davin D'Ambrosio
Vice President & Treasurer at Suburban Propane Partners

Once we concluded our prepared remarks, we will open the session to questions. Our conference call contains forward looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended relating to the Partnership's future business expectations and predictions and financial condition and results of operations. These forward looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties. We have listed some of the important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed in such forward looking statements, which are referred to as cautionary statements in our earnings press release, which can be viewed on our website at suburbanpropane.com, while subsequent written and oral forward looking statements attributable to the Partnership or persons acting on its behalf expressly qualify in their entirely by such cautionary statements. Our annual report on Form 10 K for the fiscal year ended 09/28/2024, and Form 10 Q for the period ended 12/28/2024, which will be filed by the end of business today, contain additional disclosure regarding forward looking statements and risk factors.

Davin D'Ambrosio
Davin D'Ambrosio
Vice President & Treasurer at Suburban Propane Partners

Copies may be obtained by contacting the Partnership or the SEC. Certain non GAAP measures will be discussed on this call. We have provided a description of those measures as well as a discussion of why we believe this information to be useful in our Form eight K, which was furnished to the SEC this morning. The Form eight K will be available through a link in the Investor Relations section of our website. At this time, I will turn the call over to Mike Stivala for some opening remarks.

Davin D'Ambrosio
Davin D'Ambrosio
Vice President & Treasurer at Suburban Propane Partners

Mike?

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Thanks, Devin, and good morning. Thank you all for joining us today. We're pleased to report another solid quarter despite several challenging conditions. Adjusted EBITDA for our first quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five was $75,300,000 essentially flat to the prior year first quarter. Propane revenues for the quarter were marginally lower than the prior year first quarter as strong demand in our Southeast operations in the aftermath of hurricanes Helene and Milton combined with the benefit of incremental volumes from our acquisition of a well run propane business in the Southwest Territory, which we closed in November 2024, we're able to substantially offset the impacts of widespread unseasonably warm weather, especially in the month of November and a less active crop drying season.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Our field operations have done an excellent job managing selling prices in a higher commodity price environment and are leveraging our efficient operating model to help manage costs. As I will comment further in my closing remarks, colder temperatures arrived toward the December and carried into January 2025, creating strong momentum into the heart of the heating season. Our operations personnel are very well prepared to serve the increased demand from our customers during a period of sustained colder temperatures that have gripped much of the country in the early part of our fiscal second quarter. In our renewable natural gas operations, we completed an extended and planned shutdown of our anaerobic digester facility in Stanfield, Arizona for routine maintenance and regulatory compliance upgrades. And as a result RNG injection for the quarter was lower than the prior year first quarter.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

The upgrades and enhancements completed during the planned shutdown will improve the operating performance and resiliency of the facility, enhance the quality of feedstock coming into the facility and is expected to result in increased RNG production moving forward. Since the restart of the facility in mid November, we have continued to experience enhanced conversion of feedstock intake to RNG injection as we continue to instill the best in class operating model that we are known for within our core propane business. We also continue to advance our capital projects to construct our anaerobic digester facility in Upstate New York and the gas upgrade equipment at our anaerobic digester facility in Columbus, Ohio, which are both expected to be completed toward the end of this calendar year. And we have taken the necessary steps to earn, report and prepare to monetize production tax credits from our Stanfield facility, which became effective 01/01/2025, and we expect to be able to monetize PTCs at both the New York and Ohio facilities once we start RNG production and sales activities. So while warm weather weighed on customer demand in our propane operations during the first quarter, we continue to manage the things we can control and remain steadfast in our commitment to our strategic growth objectives.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

There's still a lot of heating season ahead and we are very well prepared to handle increased demand from colder weather. In a moment, I will come back for some closing remarks and provide added color on our strategic initiatives. However, at this point, let me turn it over to Mike Kuglin to discuss our first quarter results in more detail. Mike?

Michael Kuglin
Michael Kuglin
Chief Financial Officer & Chief Accounting Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Thanks, Mike, and good morning, everyone. To be consistent with previous reporting, as I discuss our first quarter results, I'm excluding the impact of unrealized mark to market adjustments on our commodity hedges, which resulted in an unrealized gain of $3,600,000 for the first quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five compared to an unrealized loss of $10,800,000 in the prior year first quarter. Excluding these non cash items as well as non cash equity losses and impairment charges related to our unconsolidated subsidiaries accounted for under the equity method, net income for the first quarter was $38,000,000 or $0.59 per common unit compared to net income of $40,400,000 or $0.63 per common unit in the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter was $75,300,000 essentially flat to the prior year. Retail propane gallons sold of 105,700,000 gallons were 0.8% lower than the prior year primarily due to lower heat related demand from widespread unseasonably warm temperatures especially during the month of November and lower agricultural demand for crop drying which is almost entirely offset by an increase in demand in our Southeast Region following hurricanes Saline and Milton and the positive contributions from our customer base growth and retention initiatives including the strategic propane acquisition in the Southwest was completed in November 2024.

Michael Kuglin
Michael Kuglin
Chief Financial Officer & Chief Accounting Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

With respect to the weather, average temperatures during the first quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were 7% warmer than normal and flat than a prior year first quarter. In the month of November 2024, average temperatures were 15 warmer than normal and 17% warmer than November 2023 making one of the top five warmest Novembers on record. From a commodity perspective, average wholesale propane prices for fiscal twenty twenty five first quarter of $0.77 per gallon basis bond value increased 15% compared to the prior year first quarter. Since the December and with the burst of cold weather in January, propane prices have increased from the average prices during the first quarter with posted prices rising toward $0.95 per gallon and are now trending in the range of $0.85 to $0.9 per gallon. Excluding the impact of the mark to market adjustments on our commodity hedges that I mentioned earlier, total gross margin of $222,500,000 for the first quarter decreased $1,000,000 or 0.5% compared to the prior year first quarter, primarily due to slightly lower propane volumes sold and lower margin contribution from the RNG operations, partially offset by an increase in propane unit margins of $0.02 per gallon or 1.3%.

Michael Kuglin
Michael Kuglin
Chief Financial Officer & Chief Accounting Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

With respect to expenses, combined operating and G and A expenses of $150,000,000 increased $2,400,000 or 1.6% compared to the prior year first quarter primarily due to higher payroll and benefit related costs, accruals for settling certain legal matters offset to an extent by lower vehicle fuel costs. Net interest expense of $19,600,000 for the first quarter increased $1,400,000 or 7.8% compared to the prior year first quarter due to a higher level of average outstanding borrowings under our revolving credit facility. During the quarter, we recognized $3,000,000 of income representing the fair value of contingent consideration due from Equilibrium Capital Group, which was reported with an other net on the statement of operations. In accordance with the purchase agreement that we entered into with Equilibrium in December 2022 for the acquisition of the anaerobic digester facilities in Stanfield, Arizona and Columbus, Ohio expenditures for the gas upgrade equipment project at the Columbus facility that exceeded a certain threshold would be funded by Equilibrium up to a total of $3,000,000 if the Partnership incurred those costs prior to 12/31/2024. Based on the status of the capital project at Columbus, we have triggered that cost reimbursement from equilibrium.

Michael Kuglin
Michael Kuglin
Chief Financial Officer & Chief Accounting Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Excluded from adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five, our impairment charges for investments in Independence Hydrogen and Old Braun Fuels of $9,600,000 and $10,200,000 respectively in order to write down the carrying values of these investments to their estimated fair values. These non cash charges were reported with another net on the statement of operations. Doug will provide some additional commentary on these investments in a few moments. Total capital spending for the quarter of $23,800,000 was $12,700,000 higher than the prior year first quarter, primarily due to higher growth CapEx associated with construction of the gas upgrade equipment at our Columbus, Ohio facility and ongoing construction of the anaerobic digester facility in New York. As I mentioned on our last call, capital spending for fiscal twenty twenty five is expected to range between $40,000,000 and $45,000,000 for our propane operations and between $35,000,000 to $45,000,000 for our RNG projects.

Michael Kuglin
Michael Kuglin
Chief Financial Officer & Chief Accounting Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

During the quarter, we also closed on the acquisition of our propane business with operations in New Mexico and Arizona for a total consideration of $53,000,000 inclusive of future non compete payments. Turning to our balance sheet. Given the seasonal nature of our business, we typically borrow under our revolving credit facility during the first quarter to help fund a portion of our seasonal working capital needs. During the first quarter, we borrowed $91,700,000 under our revolver to fund the Propane acquisition as well as to fund seasonal working capital and growth capital expenditures. Our consolidated leverage ratio for a trailing twelve month period ended December 2024 was 4.99 times.

Michael Kuglin
Michael Kuglin
Chief Financial Officer & Chief Accounting Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Although the leverage metric is elevated relative to our historical levels, we remain well within our debt covenant requirement of 5.75 times. We expect our leverage metric to benefit from increased earnings as we complete our growth projects as the RNG platform reaches runway capacity with the monetization of production tax credits under the IRA. Given the seasonality of our business, working capital needs typically peak towards the end of the heating season, late February or early March timeframe, after which we expect to generate excess cash flows. We will continue to remain focused on utilizing excess cash flows to strengthen the balance sheet as opportunities arise to fund strategic growth. We have more than ample borrowing capacity under our revolver to fund our remaining working capital needs for the heating season as well as to support our capital expansion plans and ongoing strategic growth initiatives.

Michael Kuglin
Michael Kuglin
Chief Financial Officer & Chief Accounting Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Back to you, Mike.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Thanks, Mike. As announced on January 23, our Board of Supervisors declared our quarterly distribution of $0.325 per common unit in respect of our first quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five and that equates to an annualized rate of $1.3 per common unit. The quarterly distribution will be paid on February 11 to unitholders of record as of February 4. Our distribution coverage continues to remain strong at 1.87 times for the trailing twelve month period ended December 2024. I'd like to comment next on our long term strategic growth plans.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Our long term strategic growth initiatives continue to focus on fostering the growth of our core propane business and growing our renewable energy platform through strategic investments in renewable energy businesses and assets that will help position our business for the long term as the country continues to evolve to a low carbon economy, all while maintaining balance sheet flexibility. Over the past five years, the strong free cash flow that our business generates supplemented by borrowings as needed has allowed us to fund strategic acquisitions in support of our core propane business, which resulted in the successful acquisition and integration of nine propane businesses in strategic markets, investing more than $125,000,000 in those efforts, as well as our continued execution of our organic growth plans by providing exceptional customer service, driving our growth and retention initiatives and fostering new market expansions in propane. We've made investments in renewable fuels, hydrogen and renewable natural gas, helping to pave the way for us to have a scaled presence in the evolving low carbon renewable energy landscape with diversified revenue streams, investing approximately $320,000,000 in support of those efforts over the past five years. And over that same span of years, we returned a total of $475,000,000 to unitholders in the form of strong and steady cash distributions.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Therefore, striking a good balance of returning capital to unitholders, while investing in long term growth. Now let me just comment on the accounting charges reflected in our first quarter results. As Mike mentioned during the first quarter, we took an accounting charge in the amount of $19,800,000 to write down the value of our investments in Oberon Fuels and Independent Hydrogen. As part of our long term strategic growth initiatives, we have been committed to investing in innovative renewable energy businesses and technologies. In line with that strategy, we made our initial investments in these early stage companies in September 2020 for Oberon and in March 2022 for Independence Hydrogen.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

We maintain a minority stake of 38% in Oberon fuels and 25% in Independence Hydrogen. And since our initial investments, we have worked closely with the entrepreneurial leaders of both companies to support and advance their respective business models and technological development, inclusive of regulatory support, engineering and logistics, commercial development, PR and marketing, back office assistance and readiness for scale. Both Oberon Fuels and Independence Hydrogen have made great progress over the past few years. Advancing their respective business models and products, which in the case of Oberon is the production of renewable DME and for Independence Hydrogen is small scale distributed clean hydrogen. They are each operating pilot plants that are producing rDME and clean hydrogen respectively and generating real revenues from the sale of their products to customers.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Each have identified locations for their first commercial scale production facilities, including securing feedstock agreements, advancing engineering work and developing commercial demand. And both are engaging with several potential new investors, strategic and financial to raise the necessary capital to scale their platforms, which will require significantly more capital beyond the commitment of capital from Suburban Propane to further fund their early stage innovations. We continue to believe strongly in the business models and the impact that both companies and their respective low carbon fuels can have as contributors to a low carbon renewable energy future, especially as localized distributed energy sources. Through our ownership and engagement with these innovative early stage companies, Suburban Propane has gained significant knowledge and exposure to the development of new disruptive technologies, insights into market sentiment and built relationships throughout the supply chain for renewable fuels and hydrogen. The accounting write down is more a function of the challenges that have impacted the broader clean energy startup landscape over the past several years, including challenges related to raising new capital and uncertainty over government policy support then it is a reflection on the actual performance of either company or the potential impact that they can have on the future of clean energy.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

We continue to believe in and supportive of both companies as they advance their respective renewable energy technologies. And through the execution of our long term strategic growth plans, Suburban Propane remains committed to leveraging our core competencies as trusted local distributors of energy to grow the markets for renewable fuels and clean hydrogen well into the future. Our vision for the future hasn't changed. We are committed to continuing to advance solutions in the form of reliable, versatile, cost effective and clean propane that support decarbonization efforts, while pioneering new energy sources to power local communities for generations to come. Finally, looking ahead to the rest of fiscal twenty twenty five, as I stated earlier, there is still a significant amount of the heating season ahead and we are very well positioned both operationally and financially to adapt to as demand dictates.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

In fact, we experienced a widespread cold weather pattern across much of our operating footprint during the month of January with sustained cold temperatures, the likes of which we haven't seen since 2014. The foundation of our ongoing success continues to be rooted in our more than 3,200 dedicated employees at Suburban Propane and their hard work and unwavering focus on the safety and comfort of our customers and the communities we serve. I want to take a moment to thank them for all of their efforts in supporting our customers during some of the more challenging weather conditions that we have seen over the past few years and during a time when our customers needed us most to help them manage a sustained period of cold weather that most of the country experienced throughout much of January. And as always, we appreciate your support and attention this morning. And now I would like to open it up for questions.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

And Jenny, could you help us out with that please?

Operator

Yes. Thank you. Session. Your question is from Christopher Jeffrey from Mizuho Securities. Your line is now open.

Christopher Jeffrey
Equity Research Senior Associate at Mizuho Securities

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe Mike just to start off on that colder weather we've been seeing that you talked about at the end. Just kind of curious how the system is handling it operationally, reaching all the inbounds? And then maybe you've also talked about the kind of quicker appreciation in propane prices we've seen over the last month.

Christopher Jeffrey
Equity Research Senior Associate at Mizuho Securities

So just how the pricing aspect of that is and the unit margins? Thanks.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Sure. Great. Thanks, Chris. Thanks for the interest. Look, our platform is built for this kind of weather.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

We've been so ready for this. We haven't had sustained periods of cold weather where you have weeks upon weeks upon weeks of good solid, what I would call normal if not slightly colder than normal in certain parts of the country weather. We've always had for the past decade frankly we've had lots of fits and starts. And this kind of weather is certainly what Suburban Propane is built for and I'm really proud of the people at Suburban Propane for how they're stepping up in some challenging conditions. We get this morning is a perfect example.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

There's a lot of sleet and ice on the road and we're out there taking care of our customers and all I can ask of our people is to continue to be safe, which is something we stress at all times. So this is the kind of weather that we've been built for. Our customers can rely on us and we're doing a heck of a job with the increased demand. As far as pricing goes, with weather comes higher prices, right? You're going to see that.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

You see it in the natural gas market. You also see it in the propane market. And so that's something that we have to continue to stay ahead of is to make sure that as pricing moves as dramatically as it can at times, our field has to do a good job of making sure that we're managing our selling prices accordingly. And I'm very pleased to say that we are doing a heck of a job with that. And we've had some volatility over the past couple of weeks sort of range bound in the $0.85, 0 point 9 0 dollars basis Bellevue range right now.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

But we could certainly expect to see prices move one way or the other depending on both weather and sort of what happens in broader commodity markets.

Christopher Jeffrey
Equity Research Senior Associate at Mizuho Securities

Great. Thank you. And then maybe just coming back to the conversation around leverage, as you kind of mentioned a little bit elevated for this quarter in the last few. And I think Mike spoke about some of the drivers on the growth end. So maybe just if you could expand on those in terms of like timing when you see the credits kind of coming through.

Christopher Jeffrey
Equity Research Senior Associate at Mizuho Securities

And then also just if there's any additional thoughts on maybe the debt side of it as far as addressing that or doing something more with the rest of the capital stack?

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Yes. So first of all, we have plenty of liquidity that's not at all an issue. Second of all, when you look at our leverage metric at the December, it's a rolling 12 metrics. So it's got some of last year's challenging heating season and the lower earnings that we experienced in the second quarter of last year built into that metric. And obviously we've been deploying capital on growing the renewable natural gas business, particularly the assets in Upstate New York and Columbus, which are not yet generating real earnings.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

So as those come online towards the tail end of this year, those will start to naturally bring leverage down. And as far as the production tax credits, we're already earning them in our Stanfield locations effective January 1. The guidance came out very, very late in the calendar 2024 and into January. But we've been studying and paying very close attention to that law since it came since it was put out there. The facility in Stanfield, Arizona produces RNG at a very deep negative CI score and as a result it will generate the sort of the high end of production tax credits and they'll be earned.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

We're already earning them from January 1 forward. So that'll be a good contributor both in the second quarter as well as throughout the rest of the year. We're also working towards the efforts to monetize those to bring in real cash to as we monetize those PTCs. So that will bring help us bring incremental cash flow to the company as well. So it's a lot of noise, Chris, to be honest, but it's we have we've done a lot to invest in the growth of the business.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

And we are moving forward and we will start to see the benefit of that growth capital come to fruition. And the other thing is, as you know, we're very much balance sheet focused. So as opportunities arise, we will continue to look to strengthen the balance sheet. We view that as the backbone that helps us to be strategic and to be growth oriented. So to the extent that the balance sheet needs repair, we'll continue to look for opportunities to do that, whether that be in free cash flow or otherwise.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

And so, I think we've gotten pretty good reputation of being good balance sheet Hawkes and I think we'll continue to do that because again, it is given us the opportunity to be very, very strategic over the course of the past several years. I made comments in my opening remarks about the balanced approach towards capital deployment. That's real and a lot of that's been done on our free cash flow generation and a little bit of leverage. So we're very proud of the investments we're making and they are going to pay off in the long run.

Christopher Jeffrey
Equity Research Senior Associate at Mizuho Securities

Great. Thank you, Mike. Appreciate the time today.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

All right, Chris. Thanks.

Operator

Thank

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

Well, great, Jenny. Looks like we're all set. I appreciate your help today. Again, appreciate everybody's attention and support. We look forward to talking to you at the end of our second quarter earnings in the May timeframe.

Michael Stivala
Michael Stivala
President & Chief Executive Officer at Suburban Propane Partners

And as always, as I say to the employees of Suburban Propane as in front of them, please be safe out there.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now ended. Thank you all for joining. You may always connect your lines.

Executives
    • Davin D'Ambrosio
      Davin D'Ambrosio
      Vice President & Treasurer
    • Michael Stivala
      Michael Stivala
      President & Chief Executive Officer
    • Michael Kuglin
      Michael Kuglin
      Chief Financial Officer & Chief Accounting Officer
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