NASDAQ:AGEN Agenus Q4 2024 Earnings Report $1.69 -0.09 (-5.06%) Closing price 04/15/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$1.78 +0.09 (+5.27%) As of 07:00 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Agenus EPS ResultsActual EPS-$2.04Consensus EPS -$2.36Beat/MissBeat by +$0.32One Year Ago EPSN/AAgenus Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$26.84 millionExpected Revenue$30.09 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$3.26 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AAgenus Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date3/11/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, March 11, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsAgenus' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Agenus Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 11, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to Agenus Inc. Fourth Quarter and Year End twenty twenty four Earnings Conference Call. Currently, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal remarks. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:14I will now turn the call over to Zach Orman, Head of Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:20Thank you, Regina. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Agenesis' fourth quarter and year end twenty twenty four financial results and corporate update call. Earlier today, we issued a press release detailing our financial results and key corporate developments. A copy of the press release is available on our website at www.investors.agenesisio.com. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that today's discussion will include forward looking statements. Speaker 100:00:49These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. Please refer to our SEC filings for further detail. Joining me today are Garo Arman, Chairman and CEO, Stephen O'Jenny, Chief Clinical Officer, Robin Taylor, Chief Commercial Officer, Christine Klotzkin, VP Finance and Principal Financial and Accounting Officer. Now, I'll turn the call over to Gero. Speaker 200:01:18A very good morning once again from a delightful day in Lexington, Massachusetts. Thank you for it, very much for joining us. First, let me start by saying we are, as a company, pleased to report that we delivered on our commitment to significantly reduce Agenesis operational burn. By the end of twenty twenty four, we had reduced our annualized burn rate to the level that we had guided everyone. And now we are executing on our next stage of strategic cost reductions with an annualized burn to approximate 50,000,000 by the middle of this year. Speaker 200:02:09And we're very much on track for that number. Our objective is to direct every available resource towards what truly matters to our stakeholders and patients particularly to make sure that our groundbreaking potential of Battelle is realized and patients have access to it as soon as possible. But now continues to demonstrate unprecedented clinical activity. Recently, we presented at major oncology forms, such as AACR Immuno Oncology, was the first year that AACR organized the immuno oncology division of its annual conference ASCO GI in January, SITC in the fall, ESMO and ESMO GI. And we detail the most influential peer reviewed journals, including Nature Medicine, JCLO, Journal of Clinical Oncology and Cancer Discovery. Speaker 200:03:29All these were accomplished in the last twelve months or less. We are witnessing transformative clinical outcomes in colorectal cancer and other tumors that have been historically unresponsive to immunotherapy. This is based on the opinion of some of the most prestigious experts in the field. In a matter of example, what Pfau has demonstrated durable, and I want to underline durable responses. And prolonged survival in refractory microsatellite table colorectal cancer. Speaker 200:04:18Now, this particular kind of colorectal cancer, meaning MSS, is accounting for these days over ninety percent OCRCs. We've seen encouraging activity with the addition of VAP valve to Holfox, which is the standard of care, including VED, in first line MSS CRC. These are early indications of activity. But in terms of both efficacy and tolerability, these early signals are very encouraging. We have also either, seen complete or near complete pathological responses. Speaker 200:05:14Very importantly, in new adjuvant MSS, as well as MSI ICRC. Even though the trade likes to break these into two categories, we believe based on the results that we have seen, our agents are active in both categories of colorectal cancer. This has transformative potential to enable chemo, radiation and possibly surgery free options for patients. Because in some cases like rectal cancer, surgery along with the other standards of care can be debilitating for patients. Particularly the fact that CRC and rectal cancer are now being seen more and more frequently in younger patients. Speaker 200:06:13I'd say these results, based on the opinion of our experts, are beyond promising. They are potentially revolutionary. Also importantly, these outcomes aren't just our internal assessment. Leading global oncology centers and experts are independently conducting investigator sponsored trials. And in some cases, all we need to do is just provide product for them and we incur no host. Speaker 200:06:52This independent validation by some of the most respected oncologists and oncology centers who are pivotal in securing approval in our breakthrough therapies significantly amplify our confidence in blood valve and its potential for patients. Several of these trials, particularly in the neoadjuvant setting, are expected to rapidly enroll in potentially organ sparing trials with Battleground. These trials have gotten underway. In fact, we have a new trial that's gotten underway this week with inquiries that had come in from patients ahead of the official opening of the trial. Additionally, we've strategically continued monitoring and monetizing the potential of our non core assets. Speaker 200:07:56Our high value biologics manufacturing facility in Emeryville and Berkeley, our land in Vacaville to fortify our balance sheet currently, our high priority projects. We're engaged in also late stage partnership discussions to secure funding for Battelle and Battelle development and registration. With an emphasis on neoadjuvant treatment of early stage, well, I shouldn't say early stage, but intermediate stage colon and rectal cancers. Where these are clear opportunities for russ bile to provide significant benefit to patients. With that, I'll turn it over to Christine for a quick review of our financials. Speaker 200:08:47Christine? Speaker 300:08:49Thank you, Garo. We ended the year 2024 with a consolidated cash balance of $40,400,000 This compares to a balance of $76,100,000 at 12/31/2023. Cash used in operations for the year ended 12/31/2024 was $168,000,000 This is reduced from $224,000,000 for the prior year. For the year ended 12/31/2024, we recognized revenue of $103,500,000 and incurred a net loss of $232,300,000 or $10.59 per share. For the fourth quarter ended 12/31/2024, we recognized revenue of $26,800,000 and incurred a net loss of $46,800,000 or $2.04 per share. Speaker 300:09:53Our revenue primarily consists of non cash royalty revenue. I'll now turn the call back to Garo. Speaker 200:10:02Thank you, Christine. In summary, while we recognize that our financial position is not reflective of the high potential on the promise of R5 and it's a bit tighter than ideal, we are taking decisive actions to continue to and we will continue to take, very decisive actions to bolster our cash position as well as to contain costs. Now we're very heartened by the fact that we've had significant external validation through numerous selected high quality centers that are doing trials, such as ISVs for us. And robust clinical activity that we have seen in valve. These, of course, position us to advance our LEAP programs in 2025 and beyond. Speaker 200:11:06We remain committed and strategically aligned to deliver groundbreaking treatments for patients. This is very important because having treated now well over 1,000 patients across nine different cancers with a heavy concentration on colon cancer and seen the benefit for patients, It's very heartening that we have kept our eye on developing bile as a high priority for us. With that, I will end my call and I think we welcome questions that you may have. Operator00:11:55Our first question will come from the line of Emily Bodnar with H. C. Wainwright. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:12:01Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe for the first one, if you can kind of help frame the cost reductions for us, particularly which programs are being impacted the most, particularly on the R and D side, and especially into mid twenty twenty five as you're guiding to additional cost cuts, which programs might be impacted there. And then secondly, if you can kind of walk us through expected catalyst for 2025 and any new data updates or regulatory updates that we should be looking out for? Thank you. Speaker 200:12:38Okay. So, the cost reductions really center around headcount reductions, that are non essential. Meaning that given our priority being blood valve development and registration, We have defined exactly which, experts we need internally and externally. And we have significantly cut down on external advisors. We have limited external advisors to those that will benefit us the most in terms of advancing what battle, through, a, a line of registration. Speaker 200:13:25And most of the registration work that we were undertaking under accelerated approval is already completed. So should there be a window for us, and we believe there will be, we will utilize a lot of the work that has been completed, to seek potentially registration globally. So in terms of our pipeline products, we have not killed them. We have simply shelved them for the time being. And we've done it in a way that we can reignite them because as you know, we got a significant, number of products back from our partners after they had spent in excess of $800,000,000 collectively on those products. Speaker 200:14:17Not because of any product performance issues, but strictly because of the fact that IO for the time being is out of fashion. Not because we believe our products are implicated in it being out of fashion. But, you know, in the pharmaceutical industry, things go hot and cold. And right now, IO is cold. And that doesn't mean that it will remain cold three to six months from now. Speaker 200:14:45So we have put them on hold with an intent to reignite them quickly. In terms of catalysts for 2025 and the regulatory updates, stay tuned. Speaker 400:15:00Okay. Great. Thank you. Operator00:15:07And our next question comes from the line of Mayank Mamtani with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:15:15Good morning, team. Thanks for taking our questions and appreciate the detailed update here. Maybe just a similar question as asked before on the process of monetization of non core assets. Gaurav, if you could comment how further along you are and what sort of, economics you could derive from that. And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:15:40Sure, Mayank. Thank you for that. And if you, if you recall, and I'm sure that you recall, but in general, the first stage of monetization of our West Coast assets, namely Vacaville, our Berkeley facility came in the form of a mortgage that we obtained, back in November. And if you remember, prior to that, prior to the elections, it was almost impossible for us to obtain a mortgage, Impossible. But we got a $20,000,000 mortgage at a record time of in approximately two weeks. Speaker 200:16:29And so that was the first stage of monetization. Now in addition to that, for those of you who have been to our Emeryville facility, know that Emeryville is a highly desired state of the art manufacturing facility that is super nuts. It starts with cell lines and it finishes with packaging, filling finishing and packaging of products. Now given the fact that there has been significant shifts in, U. S. Speaker 200:17:03Manufacturing interest, we have seen a similar level of interest. And we are in discussions, including contract discussions, with parties for the potential consummation or monetization of our Westport manufacturing and real estate asset. Speaker 500:17:28Okay. No, that's helpful. And then are you able to share your latest and greatest thoughts on, what a registrational program could look like? Obviously, ASCO GI data recently showed, you know, a number of different directions you could go in, late line, frontline, obviously, new adjuvant. Any thoughts in each of those buckets that, could be helpful for folks to understand, the path to market here, Carol? Speaker 200:18:04Sure. So, first off, we have a mess, an enormous amount of data in the late stage setting. There's no ambiguity about our ability to rescue patients with, MSS CRC who had exhausted all other options. And these patients are now living longer, even though we haven't done a randomized trial in late stage yet. There is no ambiguity about the fact that these patients are living much longer, orders of magnitude longer than patients who have, had standards of care. Speaker 200:18:50So we have more than double the response rates in these patients. And we have a, an extension of their, large bank that is based on our current data, essentially double what you would see with San Antonio Care. And that magnitude, of course, is of great interest to the experts in the field and patients. In fact, we have patients who are going on disease free now, pushing three years, which is almost unprecedented. Now, that's one area where with more mature data, we will make an effort to get the interest of regulators around the world. Speaker 200:19:47Secondly, the data from the neo adjuvant setting is unambiguous. Because when I say unambiguous, it's really black and white. These patients are treated only with one valve. So no chemo, no radiation. And what we're seeing is complete pathological responses in more than half patients. Speaker 200:20:20And this has been, by the way, there was some concern that the data was from a single center, Cornell. But now the data corroborates the Cornell data in 11 centers from Europe and in four times the patients. So that's very encouraging. Because of the black and white nature of the outcomes in MSS CRC and MSI High, we believe that there is a clear path for potential approval, particularly in a setting that will be organ sparing. For example, if a patient has MSS rectal cancer, their options are chemo, radiation and surgery. Speaker 200:21:12And for these patients, rectal surgery is debilitating. And we believe that if we can show that our products are organ staring, that will be a significant benefit to patients. Doctor. Ogden, you do have to Speaker 600:21:33add Mark, thank you for the question. I would just elaborate on what Daryl said. In the refractory setting that between our Phase one and our Phase two trial, we have approximately three fifty patients whose data is maturing. Those trials have closed and the data is maturing. And we look forward to really watching this durability of response and treatment free interval mature and then obviously interact further with regulatory bodies around this data. Speaker 600:22:06And then I think what Garo said in the neoadjuvant setting is really remarkable in terms of its ability to change paradigms in both the MS stable and obviously the MS high colorectal setting. And rectal cancer is within our sites as a primary first neoadjuvant, sort of regulatory approach. Speaker 500:22:32Very helpful. Thank you, team. Looking at some of these updates in the coming months. Speaker 200:22:37And by the way, we have Robin Taylor here as well, who is one of the foremost commercial and beyond commercial experts in GRC. Would you like to add your Speaker 700:22:53Certainly, Conor. Quite, quite happy to. My end, it's good to hear from you again. You know, I think the, the, the context has been explained certainly in terms of, rectal cancer. But I would also point out that both rectal and colon cancer have a significant opportunity, because we're looking at not only, you know, in rectal cancer potential for chemoscarine, sparing radiation, and also sparing and debilitating surgery. Speaker 700:23:20Because if we improve the clinical complete response rate, those patients basically will not go into surgery. They'll, they'll wait and the evidence that we've seen so far with early use of immunotherapy, typically CTLA-four, translates into a prolonged recurrence free survival. And that's a clear benefit. So across all those measures, we expect we're going to be able to improve the rectal cancer. Similarly in colon cancer, there is that opportunity to be able to improve the event free survival, overall survival in the long run. Speaker 700:24:01And real question about being able to reduce the amount of chemotherapy the patients are receiving, particularly on Xaloplatin, which has, you know, the potential for permanent, neuropathy in the long run-in these patients who have, had infants chemotherapy may end up with a permanent neuropathy that could be avoided. And that coupled with the ability to improve on, event free survival and overall survival really makes colon cancer a really significant opportunity as well. And, you know, finally, just to note that we have, you know, just there's an IST that's just initiated Memorial Sloan Kettering, with Andrea Sercheck, phase two and rectal cancer that, you know, they're very excited about and patients very excited about which should be kicking off, very shortly. Speaker 200:24:58Thank you. Speaker 400:25:02And that will conclude Operator00:25:05our question and answer session. I'll hand the call back over to Gero Orman for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:25:11Once again, thank you very much for joining us. It's always a pleasure to have you and your questions. We're very excited about the prospects of our lead programs. There is more reason to be excited now with the longevity of data than even six months ago. And so we're grateful to our investigators and patients for participating in these trials to demonstrate the kind of results that we've come up with so far. Speaker 200:25:41And we look forward to data maturing and our trials extending. So thank you very much. Operator00:25:49And that will conclude today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to Agenus Inc. Fourth Quarter and Year End twenty twenty four Earnings Conference Call. Currently, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal remarks. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:14I will now turn the call over to Zach Orman, Head of Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:20Thank you, Regina. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Agenesis' fourth quarter and year end twenty twenty four financial results and corporate update call. Earlier today, we issued a press release detailing our financial results and key corporate developments. A copy of the press release is available on our website at www.investors.agenesisio.com. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that today's discussion will include forward looking statements. Speaker 100:00:49These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. Please refer to our SEC filings for further detail. Joining me today are Garo Arman, Chairman and CEO, Stephen O'Jenny, Chief Clinical Officer, Robin Taylor, Chief Commercial Officer, Christine Klotzkin, VP Finance and Principal Financial and Accounting Officer. Now, I'll turn the call over to Gero. Speaker 200:01:18A very good morning once again from a delightful day in Lexington, Massachusetts. Thank you for it, very much for joining us. First, let me start by saying we are, as a company, pleased to report that we delivered on our commitment to significantly reduce Agenesis operational burn. By the end of twenty twenty four, we had reduced our annualized burn rate to the level that we had guided everyone. And now we are executing on our next stage of strategic cost reductions with an annualized burn to approximate 50,000,000 by the middle of this year. Speaker 200:02:09And we're very much on track for that number. Our objective is to direct every available resource towards what truly matters to our stakeholders and patients particularly to make sure that our groundbreaking potential of Battelle is realized and patients have access to it as soon as possible. But now continues to demonstrate unprecedented clinical activity. Recently, we presented at major oncology forms, such as AACR Immuno Oncology, was the first year that AACR organized the immuno oncology division of its annual conference ASCO GI in January, SITC in the fall, ESMO and ESMO GI. And we detail the most influential peer reviewed journals, including Nature Medicine, JCLO, Journal of Clinical Oncology and Cancer Discovery. Speaker 200:03:29All these were accomplished in the last twelve months or less. We are witnessing transformative clinical outcomes in colorectal cancer and other tumors that have been historically unresponsive to immunotherapy. This is based on the opinion of some of the most prestigious experts in the field. In a matter of example, what Pfau has demonstrated durable, and I want to underline durable responses. And prolonged survival in refractory microsatellite table colorectal cancer. Speaker 200:04:18Now, this particular kind of colorectal cancer, meaning MSS, is accounting for these days over ninety percent OCRCs. We've seen encouraging activity with the addition of VAP valve to Holfox, which is the standard of care, including VED, in first line MSS CRC. These are early indications of activity. But in terms of both efficacy and tolerability, these early signals are very encouraging. We have also either, seen complete or near complete pathological responses. Speaker 200:05:14Very importantly, in new adjuvant MSS, as well as MSI ICRC. Even though the trade likes to break these into two categories, we believe based on the results that we have seen, our agents are active in both categories of colorectal cancer. This has transformative potential to enable chemo, radiation and possibly surgery free options for patients. Because in some cases like rectal cancer, surgery along with the other standards of care can be debilitating for patients. Particularly the fact that CRC and rectal cancer are now being seen more and more frequently in younger patients. Speaker 200:06:13I'd say these results, based on the opinion of our experts, are beyond promising. They are potentially revolutionary. Also importantly, these outcomes aren't just our internal assessment. Leading global oncology centers and experts are independently conducting investigator sponsored trials. And in some cases, all we need to do is just provide product for them and we incur no host. Speaker 200:06:52This independent validation by some of the most respected oncologists and oncology centers who are pivotal in securing approval in our breakthrough therapies significantly amplify our confidence in blood valve and its potential for patients. Several of these trials, particularly in the neoadjuvant setting, are expected to rapidly enroll in potentially organ sparing trials with Battleground. These trials have gotten underway. In fact, we have a new trial that's gotten underway this week with inquiries that had come in from patients ahead of the official opening of the trial. Additionally, we've strategically continued monitoring and monetizing the potential of our non core assets. Speaker 200:07:56Our high value biologics manufacturing facility in Emeryville and Berkeley, our land in Vacaville to fortify our balance sheet currently, our high priority projects. We're engaged in also late stage partnership discussions to secure funding for Battelle and Battelle development and registration. With an emphasis on neoadjuvant treatment of early stage, well, I shouldn't say early stage, but intermediate stage colon and rectal cancers. Where these are clear opportunities for russ bile to provide significant benefit to patients. With that, I'll turn it over to Christine for a quick review of our financials. Speaker 200:08:47Christine? Speaker 300:08:49Thank you, Garo. We ended the year 2024 with a consolidated cash balance of $40,400,000 This compares to a balance of $76,100,000 at 12/31/2023. Cash used in operations for the year ended 12/31/2024 was $168,000,000 This is reduced from $224,000,000 for the prior year. For the year ended 12/31/2024, we recognized revenue of $103,500,000 and incurred a net loss of $232,300,000 or $10.59 per share. For the fourth quarter ended 12/31/2024, we recognized revenue of $26,800,000 and incurred a net loss of $46,800,000 or $2.04 per share. Speaker 300:09:53Our revenue primarily consists of non cash royalty revenue. I'll now turn the call back to Garo. Speaker 200:10:02Thank you, Christine. In summary, while we recognize that our financial position is not reflective of the high potential on the promise of R5 and it's a bit tighter than ideal, we are taking decisive actions to continue to and we will continue to take, very decisive actions to bolster our cash position as well as to contain costs. Now we're very heartened by the fact that we've had significant external validation through numerous selected high quality centers that are doing trials, such as ISVs for us. And robust clinical activity that we have seen in valve. These, of course, position us to advance our LEAP programs in 2025 and beyond. Speaker 200:11:06We remain committed and strategically aligned to deliver groundbreaking treatments for patients. This is very important because having treated now well over 1,000 patients across nine different cancers with a heavy concentration on colon cancer and seen the benefit for patients, It's very heartening that we have kept our eye on developing bile as a high priority for us. With that, I will end my call and I think we welcome questions that you may have. Operator00:11:55Our first question will come from the line of Emily Bodnar with H. C. Wainwright. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:12:01Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe for the first one, if you can kind of help frame the cost reductions for us, particularly which programs are being impacted the most, particularly on the R and D side, and especially into mid twenty twenty five as you're guiding to additional cost cuts, which programs might be impacted there. And then secondly, if you can kind of walk us through expected catalyst for 2025 and any new data updates or regulatory updates that we should be looking out for? Thank you. Speaker 200:12:38Okay. So, the cost reductions really center around headcount reductions, that are non essential. Meaning that given our priority being blood valve development and registration, We have defined exactly which, experts we need internally and externally. And we have significantly cut down on external advisors. We have limited external advisors to those that will benefit us the most in terms of advancing what battle, through, a, a line of registration. Speaker 200:13:25And most of the registration work that we were undertaking under accelerated approval is already completed. So should there be a window for us, and we believe there will be, we will utilize a lot of the work that has been completed, to seek potentially registration globally. So in terms of our pipeline products, we have not killed them. We have simply shelved them for the time being. And we've done it in a way that we can reignite them because as you know, we got a significant, number of products back from our partners after they had spent in excess of $800,000,000 collectively on those products. Speaker 200:14:17Not because of any product performance issues, but strictly because of the fact that IO for the time being is out of fashion. Not because we believe our products are implicated in it being out of fashion. But, you know, in the pharmaceutical industry, things go hot and cold. And right now, IO is cold. And that doesn't mean that it will remain cold three to six months from now. Speaker 200:14:45So we have put them on hold with an intent to reignite them quickly. In terms of catalysts for 2025 and the regulatory updates, stay tuned. Speaker 400:15:00Okay. Great. Thank you. Operator00:15:07And our next question comes from the line of Mayank Mamtani with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:15:15Good morning, team. Thanks for taking our questions and appreciate the detailed update here. Maybe just a similar question as asked before on the process of monetization of non core assets. Gaurav, if you could comment how further along you are and what sort of, economics you could derive from that. And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:15:40Sure, Mayank. Thank you for that. And if you, if you recall, and I'm sure that you recall, but in general, the first stage of monetization of our West Coast assets, namely Vacaville, our Berkeley facility came in the form of a mortgage that we obtained, back in November. And if you remember, prior to that, prior to the elections, it was almost impossible for us to obtain a mortgage, Impossible. But we got a $20,000,000 mortgage at a record time of in approximately two weeks. Speaker 200:16:29And so that was the first stage of monetization. Now in addition to that, for those of you who have been to our Emeryville facility, know that Emeryville is a highly desired state of the art manufacturing facility that is super nuts. It starts with cell lines and it finishes with packaging, filling finishing and packaging of products. Now given the fact that there has been significant shifts in, U. S. Speaker 200:17:03Manufacturing interest, we have seen a similar level of interest. And we are in discussions, including contract discussions, with parties for the potential consummation or monetization of our Westport manufacturing and real estate asset. Speaker 500:17:28Okay. No, that's helpful. And then are you able to share your latest and greatest thoughts on, what a registrational program could look like? Obviously, ASCO GI data recently showed, you know, a number of different directions you could go in, late line, frontline, obviously, new adjuvant. Any thoughts in each of those buckets that, could be helpful for folks to understand, the path to market here, Carol? Speaker 200:18:04Sure. So, first off, we have a mess, an enormous amount of data in the late stage setting. There's no ambiguity about our ability to rescue patients with, MSS CRC who had exhausted all other options. And these patients are now living longer, even though we haven't done a randomized trial in late stage yet. There is no ambiguity about the fact that these patients are living much longer, orders of magnitude longer than patients who have, had standards of care. Speaker 200:18:50So we have more than double the response rates in these patients. And we have a, an extension of their, large bank that is based on our current data, essentially double what you would see with San Antonio Care. And that magnitude, of course, is of great interest to the experts in the field and patients. In fact, we have patients who are going on disease free now, pushing three years, which is almost unprecedented. Now, that's one area where with more mature data, we will make an effort to get the interest of regulators around the world. Speaker 200:19:47Secondly, the data from the neo adjuvant setting is unambiguous. Because when I say unambiguous, it's really black and white. These patients are treated only with one valve. So no chemo, no radiation. And what we're seeing is complete pathological responses in more than half patients. Speaker 200:20:20And this has been, by the way, there was some concern that the data was from a single center, Cornell. But now the data corroborates the Cornell data in 11 centers from Europe and in four times the patients. So that's very encouraging. Because of the black and white nature of the outcomes in MSS CRC and MSI High, we believe that there is a clear path for potential approval, particularly in a setting that will be organ sparing. For example, if a patient has MSS rectal cancer, their options are chemo, radiation and surgery. Speaker 200:21:12And for these patients, rectal surgery is debilitating. And we believe that if we can show that our products are organ staring, that will be a significant benefit to patients. Doctor. Ogden, you do have to Speaker 600:21:33add Mark, thank you for the question. I would just elaborate on what Daryl said. In the refractory setting that between our Phase one and our Phase two trial, we have approximately three fifty patients whose data is maturing. Those trials have closed and the data is maturing. And we look forward to really watching this durability of response and treatment free interval mature and then obviously interact further with regulatory bodies around this data. Speaker 600:22:06And then I think what Garo said in the neoadjuvant setting is really remarkable in terms of its ability to change paradigms in both the MS stable and obviously the MS high colorectal setting. And rectal cancer is within our sites as a primary first neoadjuvant, sort of regulatory approach. Speaker 500:22:32Very helpful. Thank you, team. Looking at some of these updates in the coming months. Speaker 200:22:37And by the way, we have Robin Taylor here as well, who is one of the foremost commercial and beyond commercial experts in GRC. Would you like to add your Speaker 700:22:53Certainly, Conor. Quite, quite happy to. My end, it's good to hear from you again. You know, I think the, the, the context has been explained certainly in terms of, rectal cancer. But I would also point out that both rectal and colon cancer have a significant opportunity, because we're looking at not only, you know, in rectal cancer potential for chemoscarine, sparing radiation, and also sparing and debilitating surgery. Speaker 700:23:20Because if we improve the clinical complete response rate, those patients basically will not go into surgery. They'll, they'll wait and the evidence that we've seen so far with early use of immunotherapy, typically CTLA-four, translates into a prolonged recurrence free survival. And that's a clear benefit. So across all those measures, we expect we're going to be able to improve the rectal cancer. Similarly in colon cancer, there is that opportunity to be able to improve the event free survival, overall survival in the long run. Speaker 700:24:01And real question about being able to reduce the amount of chemotherapy the patients are receiving, particularly on Xaloplatin, which has, you know, the potential for permanent, neuropathy in the long run-in these patients who have, had infants chemotherapy may end up with a permanent neuropathy that could be avoided. And that coupled with the ability to improve on, event free survival and overall survival really makes colon cancer a really significant opportunity as well. And, you know, finally, just to note that we have, you know, just there's an IST that's just initiated Memorial Sloan Kettering, with Andrea Sercheck, phase two and rectal cancer that, you know, they're very excited about and patients very excited about which should be kicking off, very shortly. Speaker 200:24:58Thank you. Speaker 400:25:02And that will conclude Operator00:25:05our question and answer session. I'll hand the call back over to Gero Orman for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:25:11Once again, thank you very much for joining us. It's always a pleasure to have you and your questions. We're very excited about the prospects of our lead programs. There is more reason to be excited now with the longevity of data than even six months ago. And so we're grateful to our investigators and patients for participating in these trials to demonstrate the kind of results that we've come up with so far. Speaker 200:25:41And we look forward to data maturing and our trials extending. So thank you very much. Operator00:25:49And that will conclude today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by