NASDAQ:QFIN Qifu Technology Q4 2024 Earnings Report $35.62 -0.92 (-2.51%) Closing price 04/17/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$35.68 +0.06 (+0.16%) As of 04/17/2025 06:11 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Qifu Technology EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.82Consensus EPS $1.68Beat/MissBeat by +$0.14One Year Ago EPSN/AQifu Technology Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$613.89 millionExpected Revenue$581.67 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$32.22 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AQifu Technology Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date3/16/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateMonday, March 17, 2025Conference Call Time7:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsQifu Technology's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, May 19, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 7:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (20-F)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Qifu Technology Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 17, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, Welcome to the Qifu Technology Fourth Quarter and Full Year twenty twenty four Earnings Conference Call. All participants are in a listen only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question and answer session. Please also note that today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference call over to Ms. Operator00:00:30Karen Gee, Senior Director of Capital Markets. Please go ahead, Karen. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Qifu Technologies' fourth quarter twenty twenty four earnings conference call. Our earnings release was distributed earlier today and is available on our IR website. Joining me today are Mr. Wu Hai Shen, our CEO Mr. Speaker 100:00:56Alex Xu, our CFO and Mr. Zheng Yan, our COO. Before we start, I would like to refer you to our Safe Harbor statement in the earnings press release, which applies to this call as we will make certain forward looking statements. Also, this call includes discussions of certain non GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our earnings release, which contains a reconciliation of the non GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:01:27Also, please note that unless otherwise stated, all figures mentioned in this call are in R and D terms. Before we start, we would like to let you know that today's prepared remarks from our CEO will be delivered in English using an AI generated voice. Now, I will turn the call over to Mr. Hu Hai Shen. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:01:54Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. 2024 was an exceptional year for our company. Despite the macroeconomic headwinds, we focused on driving high quality development and evolving our business, consistently hitting new quarterly milestones to close out the year on a strong note. As our business model gradually shifts to a platform model, our organizational capabilities have been upgraded alongside it. Speaker 200:02:24As we look to the future, we will adopt a more open and collaborative approach to engaging and empowering our users and partners, further enhancing the health and resilience of our business. By the end of twenty twenty four, our platform empowered a total of 162 financial institutions to serve more than 56,000,000 users with approved credit lines on a cumulative basis. Throughout 2024, we maintained a disciplined approach, optimizing risk management and enhancing operational efficiency. In Q4, our C2M2 metric representing the delinquency rate after thirty day collection for our overall loan portfolio declined further sequentially, reaching its lowest level of the year and approaching a historical best. With our risk metrics stabilizing, we strengthened our ability to address user needs through differentiated risk and pricing strategies. Speaker 200:03:24Total loan facilitation and origination volume on our platform have grown for two consecutive quarters with Q4 loan volume increasing by 9% sequentially to RMB89.9 billion. Loan volume in the second half of the year regained positive growth, increasing by approximately 15% compared to the first half. With operational efficiency continuing to improve, our Q4 profitability hit a new record high with non GAAP net income increasing 71.5% year over year to RMB1.97 billion and non GAAP net income per diluted ADS surging 91.3% year over year to RMB 13.7. Despite macroeconomic headwinds, we have consistently improved upon our results over the year and outperformed our market commitments through the ongoing evolution and enhancements to our business. In 2024, with our take rate continuing to improve, full year non GAAP net income rose 44% year over year to reach an all time high of RMB6.42 billion. Speaker 200:04:32Additionally, we successfully executed USD410 million share repurchase, buying back approximately 12% of our share count at the beginning of the year. This also contributed to improved non GAAP net income per diluted ADS for 2024, which increased 55.7% year over year to RMB42.4. Coupled with ongoing improvements in profitability and capital allocation efficiency, our ROE for 2024 increased further to 27.9%, significantly outperforming most financial services and Internet companies in China. Now I'll walk you through the progress we made in 2024. First, we remain committed to driving quality growth. Speaker 200:05:18We enhanced user acquisition efficiency by proactively diversifying acquisition channels. The number of new borrowers in 2024 increased by 16.2% year over year, while average acquisition cost per credit line user declined by 5.3%, reflecting a significant improvement in user acquisition efficiency. Notably, the addition of 18 new channels to our embedded finance business drove a 26% increase in new credit line users and a remarkable 98% increase in loan volume from the embedded finance channels with users acquired through this segment now accounting for 41. With improved user profiling accuracy on partner platforms, both credit costs and operational efficiency further improved, driving an ROA increase of approximately 2.48 percentage points from last year. Additionally, our embedded finance model further expanded its reach and now covers the majority of leading Internet traffic platforms in China with penetration rates also increasing. Speaker 200:06:26Simultaneously, we deepened collaboration with financial institutions to engage with their existing customer bases, leveraging their proprietary traffic and our precise user identification capabilities and differentiated risk strategies to extend our credit product offerings. As we expand into more channels and strengthen our presence across platforms, we expect loan volume from our embedded finance business to maintain rapid growth momentum in 2025. Additionally, we are developing our intelligent marketing capabilities. 74% of the graphics and 27% of the videos we deploy are now generated by AIGC technology, resulting in a 25.1% improvement in user outreach efficiency and an approximately 10% reduction in average cost per credit line user. Furthermore, with 40% of our ad placements now automated, we achieved a 9% improvement in ROI compared to manual placements. Speaker 200:07:28Second, our asset quality improved significantly in 2024, following the decisive initiatives we implemented to optimize our loan portfolio and prioritize high quality growth. We upgraded our application scorecard or A scorecard by integrating AI to enhance credit data analysis. This allowed us to lower risk metrics back to target levels and establish a foundation for continuous improvements. Within our post lending processes, we enhanced overall collection efficiency by upgrading our collection scorecard or C scorecard with large language models for real time analysis of user communication data and refining partner management and case assignment strategies. In the second half of the year, despite a moderate recovery in market demand, we maintained a disciplined risk strategy and focused on differentiated user operations, driving further improvements in our risk indicators. Speaker 200:08:27In Q4, our D1 delinquency rate decreased by 0.21 percentage points year over year, while 30 collection rate increased by 3.23 percentage points. This robust asset quality has laid a solid foundation for our 2025 strategic planning. And with optimized risk strategies now firmly in place. We expect risk performance to remain stable in the coming quarters. Benefiting from a favorable interest rate environment and robust asset quality, we maintained our negotiating leverage on the funding side and drove a continuous decline in funding costs throughout the year. Speaker 200:09:06Our ABS issuance for the year increased by 21.6% to RMB15.2 billion, further optimizing our funding structure. We also issued the first domestic exchange traded ABS with a AAA international rating, which attracted subscriptions from multiple international institutional investors and expanded our funding channels globally. Our leadership in ABS issuance has given us a distinct competitive advantage in funding. In 2025, we plan to ramp up ABS issuance and increase the share of ABS in our funding mix. Although there has been a slight uptick in interest rate uncertainty this year, we are confident in our ability to drive a moderate decline in our funding costs in the coming year. Speaker 200:09:53The proportion of loan volume from our Capital Light segment increased by approximately 10 percentage points to 53% throughout 2024. We are the first mover to adopt this model and now boast the highest ratio when compared to our industry peers, a direct result of our strong asset quality and precise asset allocation capabilities. Our flexible asset structure ensures that our loan portfolio remains significantly more resilient during market cycles. Over the past year, by onboarding funding partners with more diverse risk appetites, we have strengthened our ability to serve various loan segments and further optimized our asset allocation strategy. This has driven continuous improvements in our ROA under the capital light model. Speaker 200:10:39Our Technology Solutions business reached meaningful scale in 2024. We continued to enhance and upgrade our credit tech solution, FocusPRO, to meet the diverse needs of financial institutions. Over the year, we added 11 new partner institutions, bringing the total to 16 with 11 already live on our platform. Loan volume under the FocusPro model grew at a compound monthly growth rate of 17% in 2024. By extensively engaging with our partners, we have seen strong demand from financial institutions for AI driven solutions. Speaker 200:11:17In response, we plan to develop an AI plus bank agent platform to help banks address pain points in their core business processes and improve operational efficiency. We look forward to sharing more updates on this initiative in the coming quarters. AI is deeply embedded in our DNA, empowering every stage of our operations. Over the past year, AI has driven significant efficiency improvements across our business from AI co pilot models in loan collection and telemarketing to automating the development of marketing materials with AIGC technology and assisting developers with coding. As large language models increasingly mature and DeepSeq significantly improves inference efficiency, we will allocate more resources to the application of AI across credit scenarios going forward. Speaker 200:12:06First and foremost, risk management is the cornerstone of our business. We have gained valuable insights from over 200,000,000 users and developed more than 2,400 models with 590,000 data dimensions. In 2024 alone, we iterated our models more than 670x. We believe DeepSeq will revolutionize how data is mined and analyzed in risk management, transitioning us from a single model to a multimodal approach and driving exponential growth in data dimensions. Its powerful reasoning capabilities will enable us to further enhance user profiling and improve the accuracy of end to end risk identification. Speaker 200:12:48Second, we are fully committed to advancing our AI plus strategy. We plan to build an agent platform that will empower core lending processes, leveraging the memory, planning and collaboration capabilities of AI agents. This platform will fundamentally reshape how we operate, boosting efficiency, while unlocking greater potential within our teams to drive even more business value. We have assembled a dedicated team to execute this strategy and expect one third of our core business processes to be powered by this agent platform in the next one or two years. This initiative has already gained strong traction among our financial institution partners and we believe AI plus Bank will become a key pillar of our technology solution business moving forward. Speaker 200:13:35In the second half of twenty twenty four, we saw marginal improvements in the macroeconomic environment and a modest recovery in credit demand. The 2025 government work report emphasized a commitment to supporting technological innovation, boosting consumption and advancing the AI plus initiative, including the widespread adoption of large language models. We will continue to observe the impact these initiatives will have on our business. From a long term perspective, our vision is to become a globally respected fintech company. To achieve this vision, we are executing a one core, two wing strategy, where our domestic credit business serves as the core, and our technology solutions business and international expansion serve as the two wings. Speaker 200:14:22This strategy will allow us to continuously expand business boundaries and drive digital financial inclusion on a larger scale. Looking ahead to 2025, we remain cautiously optimistic and expect our core credit business to maintain high quality development, while our Technology Solutions business will expand the depth and breadth of our partnerships with banks through our AI plus strategy. For international expansion, we will maintain a disciplined approach, focusing on markets with stable regulatory environments and solid infrastructure. We will start small, move quickly and iterate continuously as we progress. We look forward to sharing more updates on our journey in the future. Speaker 200:15:05In 2024, we further optimized capital allocation to enhance shareholder returns, executing our share repurchase plan at a pace significantly ahead of market expectations. Our dividends and buybacks for 2024 amounted to USD 180,000,000 and USD $410,000,000, respectively, with total shareholder returns reaching 100% of our 2023 GAAP net income. As of the end of twenty twenty four, we had repurchased a total of 24,500,000.0 ADSs and have begun executing a new repurchase plan of up to USD $450,000,000 in 2025. We are confident in the future of our company and remain dedicated to delivering long term value to our shareholders. Moving forward, we will continue to prioritize efficient capital allocation and shareholder value creation through recurring share buybacks and dividends. Speaker 200:15:57With that, I will now turn the call over to Alex. Speaker 300:16:04Thank you, Haixin. Good morning and good evening, everyone. Welcome to our fourth quarter earnings call. We closed the year with a strong Q4 as microenvironment start to see tentative indication of modest improvement in user activities. Our continuous effort to optimize operation, improve efficiencies and manage risk exposures generate healthy financial results and operating metrics. Speaker 300:16:32Total net revenue for Q4 was $4,480,000,000 versus $4,370,000,000 in Q3 and April a year ago. Revenue from credit driven service, Capital Heavy, was $2,890,000,000 in Q4 compared to $2,900,000,000 in Q3 and $3,250,000,000 a year ago. The year on year decline was mainly due to significant decline in off balance sheet loans despite strong contribution from on balance sheet loans and other value added services. Overall funding cost was stable Q on Q in a seasonally tightening funding environment. Revenue from platform service, Captain Light, was $1,590,000,000 in Q4 compared to $1,470,000,000 in Q3 and $1,250,000,000 a year ago. Speaker 300:17:24The year on year growth was mainly due to strong contribution from ICE and other value added service, more than offsetting the decline in capitalized loan facilitation. For the full year twenty twenty four, platform service account for roughly 53% of the total loan volume and 58% of the year end loan balance. We expect the ratio to be roughly stable in the near term. During the quarter, average IRR of loans we originated and or facilitated was 21.3% compared to 21.4% in prior quarter. Looking forward, we expect pricing to be fluctuated around this level for the coming quarters. Speaker 300:18:08Sales and marketing expenses increased 25% Q on Q, but declined 5% year on year. The sequential increase was mainly due to increased customers' activity and the typical Q4 seasonality. We added approximately 1,690,000 new credit line users in Q4 versus 1,580,000 in Q3. We will continue to make timely adjustment to the pace of the new user acquisition based on micro conditions from time to time and further diversify our user acquisition channels and improve user engagement and retention. Meanwhile, we will also continue to focus on re energizing existing user base as repeat borrowers historically contributed vast majority of our business. Speaker 300:18:57Ninety day delinquency rate was two point zero nine percent in Q4 compared to two point seven percent in Q3. Day one delinquency was 4.8% in Q4 versus 4.6% in Q3. '30 day collection rate was 88.1% in Q4 versus eighty seven point four percent in Q3. Another key risk metrics, C M2, which represents the outstanding delinquency rate after thirty day collection improved slightly Q on Q to 0.57% with higher loan volume. We are comfortable with our current risk exposure and we expect to see relatively stable risk metrics in the coming months. Speaker 300:19:42Under current macro condition and geopolitical uncertainties, we continue to take a prudent approach to book provisions against potential credit losses. Total new provision for risk bearing loans in Q4 were approximately RMB2.07 billion versus RMB1.63 billion in Q3. The increase in new provision was mainly due to increase in risk direct loan volume Q on Q and higher provision booking ratios. Writebacks of previous provisions were approximately $1,020,000,000 in Q4 versus $910,000,000 in Q3. Provision coverage ratio, which is defined as total outstanding provisions divided by total outstanding delinquent risk bearing loan balance between ninety and one hundred and eighty days or 617% in Q4, a historical high compared to 482% in Q3. Speaker 300:20:48Non GAAP net profit was $1,970,000,000 in Q4 compared to RMB1.83 billion in Q3. The significant improvement in profitability was mainly due to favorable year end tax adjustments. Non GAAP net income per fully diluted ADS was RMB13.66 in Q4 compared to RMB12.35 in Q3 and RMB7.14 a year ago, as strong earning growth and proactive share repurchase created significant EPS accretion. Effective tax rate for Q4 was 1% compared to our typical ETR of approximately 15%. The lower than normal ETR was mainly due to benefit from withholding tax provision adjustment as withholding tax rate was lower to 5% in Q4. Speaker 300:21:48With solid operating result and higher contribution from capitalized model, our leverage ratio, which is defined as risk bearing loan balance divided by shareholders' equity, was 2.4 times in Q4, near historical low. We expect to see leverage ratio fluctuate around this level in the near future. We generated approximately $3,050,000,000 cash from operations in Q4 compared to $2,370,000,000 in Q3. The sequential increase in operating cash flow was mainly due to better operating results and lower tax payout. Total cash and cash equivalents and short term investments was $10,360,000,000 in Q4 compared to $9,770,000,000 in Q3. Speaker 300:22:36As we continue to generate strong cash flow from operations, we will further optimize our capital allocation to support our business initiatives and to return our shareholders. During Q4, we in aggregate repurchased approximately 3,100,000.0 ADS in open market for a total amount of approximately $1,070,000 inclusive of commissions at the average price of $34.5 per ADS. As such, we have completed substantially all of the $350,000,000 share repurchase plan we announced on 03/12/2024. Furthermore, on 11/19/2024, our Board of Directors approved a new share repurchase plan to buy back up to $450,000,000 worth of ADS over a twelve month period starting 01/01/2025. As of 03/14/2025, we have in aggregate purchased approximately 2,200,000 ADSs in open market for a total amount of approximately $86,000,000 inclusive of commissions at the average price of $39.7 per ADS under the new share repurchase plan. Speaker 300:23:59The proactive execution of share repurchase plan demonstrates management's confidence and commitment to the future of the company, and the management intend to further use share repurchase to accelerate EP ADS accretion. In accordance with our current dividend policy, our board has approved a dividend of US0.35 dollars per Class A ordinary share or $0.7 per ADS for the second half of twenty twenty four to holders of record of Class A ordinary shares and ADSs as of the close of the business on 04/23/2005, Hong Kong Times and New York Times, respectively. We intend to gradually increase the dividend per ADS on a semi annual basis. Finally, regarding our business outlook, while we start to see some tentative sign of marginal improvement in users' activity, we will continue to take a prudent approach in business planning for 2025 and focus on enhancing efficiency of our operations. For the first quarter of twenty twenty five, the company expect to generate non GAAP net income between RMB1.8 billion and RMB1.9 billion, representing a year over year growth between 4958%. Speaker 300:25:24This outlook reflects the company's current and preliminary view, which is subject to material changes. With that, I would like to conclude our prepared remarks. Operator, we can now take some questions. Speaker 200:25:37Thank Operator00:26:07Thank you. Your first question comes from Richard Zu with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:27:08Two questions from me. Number one on the AI, could management discuss what areas we're seeing the most potential to integrate it, maybe DeepSeek and other AI modules and what type of efficiency could be achieved and any progress so far? Second of all, there's been some obviously policy support since September of last year. Are we seeing any credit demand recovery at the moment? And what's the credit demand at the moment outlook for 2025? Speaker 400:27:40Any improved credit outlook as well as supply maybe credit growth outlook? Thank you. Speaker 500:27:51Okay. Richard, thank you. For your first question about the AI and DeepSeq, And actually, it's a really hot topic for now. And over the past year, we are happy to see the great improvement in large language model technology, especially in its reasoning efficiency. We believe credit is a perfect scenario for AI application, because this industry has a strong data foundation and a high degree of digitalization. Speaker 500:28:33Last year, we had a lot of AI practice and efficiency work like sales, loan collection, intelligence marketing and R and D. For example, we launched the Copilot System to empower our collection team By analyzing our historical phone calls, the system can effectively read users' intent and suggest how to effectively communicate with the users. So far, the adoption rate of the KOBALA system among our collection team has reached about 84%. Daily usage is roughly 30 times per person. And this year, we will allocate more resources to applying AI into our credit assessment, leveraging the AI reasoning capabilities to enhance our ability to analyze credit reports. Speaker 500:29:43One example is when we use feature recognition during the loan application process, AI will recognize additional information from the pictures or videos, such as users' clothing or their surroundings. This information can be cross checked with the identity information provided by the users to reduce the fraud risk. This year, we will put a small portion of our traffic into the end to end AI driven risk decision making process. We are really looking forward to the results of this test. In addition, we are fully committed to advancing our AI plus strategy. Speaker 500:30:43We plan to build an aging platform that will empower our whole company. This AI agent could become our digital employees working together with us. We have built a dedicated team to execute this AI plus strategy and by the end of the year, we expect this team to grow to around 150 people. In the next one year, we expect one third of our core business processes will be powered by this aging platform. We have seen strong interest for the engineering platform among our financial institution partners and we believe AEI plus bank will make our technology solution business more competitive. Speaker 500:31:44And I want to say over the past decade, we have captured the growth opportunities in the net plus era. We are confident that based on our scenario, technology and data, we are also at a good position to capture the AI plus opportunities. That's for your first question. And for the second question about customer demand, yes, we did observe some improvements in user activities after September 21. For example, the loan application ratio was 10% higher in Q4 versus Q3. Speaker 500:32:38In January, we also noticed seasonal pickup in credit demand ahead of Chinese New Year, especially from SME users. Then credit demand declined in February due to the holiday, but rebounded in March. Based on the current situation, we expect Q1 loan volume to grow by more than 10% year over year. At this stage, it is I think it is still too early for us to call for macro recovery. We still want to adopt a prudent approach to plan our business for this year. Speaker 500:33:32But if the market environment improves meaningfully, we will adjust our strategy timely to capture the growth opportunities. Thank you. Operator00:33:48Your next question comes from Alex Yee with UBS. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:34:33So my first question is about what's the drivers for the movement of the two early asset quality indicators in Q4, including day one delinquency ratio and thirty day collection ratio. What's the latest trend in Q1 so far and the outlook going forward? And second question is about the net tariff outlook, which was guided by management previously at around slightly above 5% for the full year. So based on your latest results and your operation into this year so far, so what's the is there any adjustment to this guidance? Thank Speaker 100:37:19Okay. Let me do the translation for Mr. Zheng. First, let me explain how we monitor our risk internally. We usually look at both the day one delinquency rate and the thirty day collection rate together because individual metrics can fluctuate for various reasons. Speaker 100:37:37What we focus on more is the C2M2 ratio, which is the delinquency rate after thirty day collection period. Based on this metrics, our risk level is very stable. Now about the slight increase of our day one delinquency rate and the collection rate compared to Q3, it was mainly due to the optimization we've made to our repayment reminder strategy. We reduced the coverage of our early reminder by about 30% to improve user experience without compromising our loss rate. As a result, some of our high quality users missed the repayment on the due date, but they quickly caught up. Speaker 100:38:24That's why you will see a small increase in both day one delinquency rate and collection rate, but it didn't have any meaningful impact on our actual credit losses. Our risk performance in January and February was pretty much in line with Q4 with overall risk levels remaining stable. I also want to emphasize that we are not aiming to reduce our risk to the absolute lowest level as it doesn't serve the best interest of the company. Right now, with a decent level of take rate, we have a solid margin of safety to experiment with new strategies and find a better balance between growth and risk. Thank you. Speaker 300:39:12Okay. And Alex, I will respond to your second part of the question about the take rate. As you know, throughout 2024, we have been on a steady improvement trend in take rate as we reduce the risk and with the funding cost continue to trending lower throughout last year. So by the end of last year, in Q4, our take rate net accrued revenue approach to 6%. So that's the trend for last year. Speaker 300:39:43And obviously, there are some one off factors, as you guys know, for example, the mix change regarding a revenue recognition difference between the second half and first half. But excluding all these kind of one off factors, I think we're looking at for this year. It's a reasonable assumption. As you mentioned, we achieved a sort of a 5% above kind of a take rate for the year. And overall, we, as our CRO just mentioned, we have enough sort of a cushion in our take rate or our risk metrics that enable us to actually do a little bit testing around the margin. Speaker 300:40:38If we see the opportunity, which could be resulted by the microenvironment change or could be resolved by the user activity change, if we see the opportunity, we will take that and try on the margin to see whether we can bring the incremental marginal probability on top of our sort of a base case. So that will be the process we will continue to pushing throughout 2025. The end results or the ultimate goal is to really drive higher profit total profit on top of the sort of the base case there. So that's our approach to looking at this year's profitability and this year's kind of a take rate. Operator00:41:31Thank you. Your next question comes from Cindy Wang with China Renaissance. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:42:01Thanks for taking my question. So I have a question related to the regulation side. So last week, National Financial Regulatory Administration issued a notice requiring financial institutions to promote consumer finance and boost consumption to boost consumption in China. So how do you see the new policy impact to the overall industry and the company? Thank you. Speaker 500:42:32Okay. Sandy, I'm glad you mentioned this. It's really a big news for our industry. We believe this document sends a very positive signal and we are very encouraged. It is very clear that the government's direction is to boost consumption by encouraging the development of consumer credit industry. Speaker 500:43:01And I think there will be a series of policies to support that direction. I think we noticed three details in the document. The first, increasing the supply of consumer loans, which means support in terms of monetary policy and liquidity. And secondly, they encourage financial institutions to increase loan volumes and set reasonable terms of for loan products, which means that the regulator will provide more flexible space for financial institutions. And thirdly, they emphasize the consumer protection and providing support for users who have difficulty in repayment. Speaker 500:43:59In order, the regulators have fully recognized the value of consumer finance in boosting consumption. Therefore, we expect that the regulator environment will remain relatively stable, leaving us more room to innovate and serve our customers. Thank you. Operator00:44:27Your next question comes from Emma Su with Bank of America Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:44:59So I have a question about the funding cost. So is your funding cost continuing to decline and what's the lowest level you think the funding cost can go to? Speaker 500:45:12Okay. Thank you, Emma. In terms of funding costs, over the past few years, our funding costs have continued to decline even much faster compared to the LTR. This is partially driven by the risk cut, but more driven by the demand over supply of consumer credit as assets. In the future, if macro improves the supply and demand situation will also change and we always emphasize that financial institutions have their operating costs. Speaker 500:45:53The current cost of funds has already approached the bottom line of financial institutions. And so there is limited room for further decline. And in addition to the funding provided by financial institutions, a significant portion of our funding comes from ADS. We will continue to issue more ABS this year to further optimize our funding structure. So hope we can achieve further decline in overall funding costs. Speaker 500:46:35Thank you. Speaker 300:46:37Yes. Just Emma, I just want to add a couple of points. So basically, you can see there are three factors to really drive the funding cost, two external and one internal. The two external are one, the LPR obviously is the if you see the reduction in the LPR, it will more or less kind of a pass through to us a little bit. But at the same time, the supplydemand situation will also have the impact on the funding costs. Speaker 300:47:13In particular, if the macro situation getting a little bit hot, then you will you may run into a short of a fund kind of environment overall that certainly will put some pressure on our funding costs there. So that's two external factors. The internal one on the ABS side, last year, we did about RMB15 billion, a little bit over RMB50 billion in ABS issuance, and which should represent about 20 some percent increase over the year before. I think, at least from our planning perspective, we try to maintain this kind of a year over year growth pace for this year. If we can achieve that, that will certainly help us from mix perspective reduce the overall funding cost a little bit. Speaker 300:48:08But net net, given we are how low we are already be, so there is a limited the space in terms of downward movement will still be quite limited. Thank you. Operator00:48:22Your next question comes from Yada Li with CICC. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:48:46Then now to the translation. Hello management. Thank you for taking my questions. My question is about the shareholders' return. I was wondering do you expect to deliver more value to the shareholders and how to view the sustainability and is there still potential for future growth? Speaker 300:49:02That's all. Thank you. Sure. Thank you, Yara. I'll take this one. Speaker 300:49:10We have been very committed to return values to our shareholder in the past couple of years. And we are looking at if you look at the 2024, the actual payout almost represent 100% of our earnings for 2023 there. And so going forward, we have been saying that we try to maintain a 70 plus percent payout ratio for the next few years. And given that we also have a target to kind of shrink our share base by a significant percentage, so we put the current priority and also maybe the next year's priority into the share buyback side. And we have the current $450,000,000 share buyback program running so far in the first quarter, even though our share price have been moving up quite significantly, we still maintain a very consistent pace in terms of executing the current RMB450 million buyback program. Speaker 300:50:20And we intend to continue to do so for the remainder of the year. If there's opportunity arise, we also may consider to accelerate the buyback program down the road. On the dividend side, given the priority for now is on the buyback, we try to achieve a continued increased per share dividend on the semi annual basis. For example, this quarter, we declared a $0.7 per ADS dividend versus six months ago, that's only about $0.6 So it's a pretty significant raise in dividend. And you should expect that the dividend per share number to continue increase over the course of next few dividends given that we are shrinking our share base quite significantly and we also have to meet the Board authorized at least 20% dividend payout ratio. Speaker 300:51:34So mathematically, you have to see an increased DPS in the going forward basis there. And in the long run, once we achieve our sort of a share repurchase target, which may be about two years down the road, we will at that time, reconsider the mix between the buyback and the dividend. But that's still a little bit long time away. So for now, the priority is still be on the buyback side. Thank you. Operator00:52:11Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'll now hand back to management for closing remarks. Speaker 300:52:19Okay. Thank you, everyone, to join us for today's conference. We are very efficient to make the call going very quickly than we thought. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, Welcome to the Qifu Technology Fourth Quarter and Full Year twenty twenty four Earnings Conference Call. All participants are in a listen only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question and answer session. Please also note that today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference call over to Ms. Operator00:00:30Karen Gee, Senior Director of Capital Markets. Please go ahead, Karen. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Qifu Technologies' fourth quarter twenty twenty four earnings conference call. Our earnings release was distributed earlier today and is available on our IR website. Joining me today are Mr. Wu Hai Shen, our CEO Mr. Speaker 100:00:56Alex Xu, our CFO and Mr. Zheng Yan, our COO. Before we start, I would like to refer you to our Safe Harbor statement in the earnings press release, which applies to this call as we will make certain forward looking statements. Also, this call includes discussions of certain non GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our earnings release, which contains a reconciliation of the non GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:01:27Also, please note that unless otherwise stated, all figures mentioned in this call are in R and D terms. Before we start, we would like to let you know that today's prepared remarks from our CEO will be delivered in English using an AI generated voice. Now, I will turn the call over to Mr. Hu Hai Shen. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:01:54Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. 2024 was an exceptional year for our company. Despite the macroeconomic headwinds, we focused on driving high quality development and evolving our business, consistently hitting new quarterly milestones to close out the year on a strong note. As our business model gradually shifts to a platform model, our organizational capabilities have been upgraded alongside it. Speaker 200:02:24As we look to the future, we will adopt a more open and collaborative approach to engaging and empowering our users and partners, further enhancing the health and resilience of our business. By the end of twenty twenty four, our platform empowered a total of 162 financial institutions to serve more than 56,000,000 users with approved credit lines on a cumulative basis. Throughout 2024, we maintained a disciplined approach, optimizing risk management and enhancing operational efficiency. In Q4, our C2M2 metric representing the delinquency rate after thirty day collection for our overall loan portfolio declined further sequentially, reaching its lowest level of the year and approaching a historical best. With our risk metrics stabilizing, we strengthened our ability to address user needs through differentiated risk and pricing strategies. Speaker 200:03:24Total loan facilitation and origination volume on our platform have grown for two consecutive quarters with Q4 loan volume increasing by 9% sequentially to RMB89.9 billion. Loan volume in the second half of the year regained positive growth, increasing by approximately 15% compared to the first half. With operational efficiency continuing to improve, our Q4 profitability hit a new record high with non GAAP net income increasing 71.5% year over year to RMB1.97 billion and non GAAP net income per diluted ADS surging 91.3% year over year to RMB 13.7. Despite macroeconomic headwinds, we have consistently improved upon our results over the year and outperformed our market commitments through the ongoing evolution and enhancements to our business. In 2024, with our take rate continuing to improve, full year non GAAP net income rose 44% year over year to reach an all time high of RMB6.42 billion. Speaker 200:04:32Additionally, we successfully executed USD410 million share repurchase, buying back approximately 12% of our share count at the beginning of the year. This also contributed to improved non GAAP net income per diluted ADS for 2024, which increased 55.7% year over year to RMB42.4. Coupled with ongoing improvements in profitability and capital allocation efficiency, our ROE for 2024 increased further to 27.9%, significantly outperforming most financial services and Internet companies in China. Now I'll walk you through the progress we made in 2024. First, we remain committed to driving quality growth. Speaker 200:05:18We enhanced user acquisition efficiency by proactively diversifying acquisition channels. The number of new borrowers in 2024 increased by 16.2% year over year, while average acquisition cost per credit line user declined by 5.3%, reflecting a significant improvement in user acquisition efficiency. Notably, the addition of 18 new channels to our embedded finance business drove a 26% increase in new credit line users and a remarkable 98% increase in loan volume from the embedded finance channels with users acquired through this segment now accounting for 41. With improved user profiling accuracy on partner platforms, both credit costs and operational efficiency further improved, driving an ROA increase of approximately 2.48 percentage points from last year. Additionally, our embedded finance model further expanded its reach and now covers the majority of leading Internet traffic platforms in China with penetration rates also increasing. Speaker 200:06:26Simultaneously, we deepened collaboration with financial institutions to engage with their existing customer bases, leveraging their proprietary traffic and our precise user identification capabilities and differentiated risk strategies to extend our credit product offerings. As we expand into more channels and strengthen our presence across platforms, we expect loan volume from our embedded finance business to maintain rapid growth momentum in 2025. Additionally, we are developing our intelligent marketing capabilities. 74% of the graphics and 27% of the videos we deploy are now generated by AIGC technology, resulting in a 25.1% improvement in user outreach efficiency and an approximately 10% reduction in average cost per credit line user. Furthermore, with 40% of our ad placements now automated, we achieved a 9% improvement in ROI compared to manual placements. Speaker 200:07:28Second, our asset quality improved significantly in 2024, following the decisive initiatives we implemented to optimize our loan portfolio and prioritize high quality growth. We upgraded our application scorecard or A scorecard by integrating AI to enhance credit data analysis. This allowed us to lower risk metrics back to target levels and establish a foundation for continuous improvements. Within our post lending processes, we enhanced overall collection efficiency by upgrading our collection scorecard or C scorecard with large language models for real time analysis of user communication data and refining partner management and case assignment strategies. In the second half of the year, despite a moderate recovery in market demand, we maintained a disciplined risk strategy and focused on differentiated user operations, driving further improvements in our risk indicators. Speaker 200:08:27In Q4, our D1 delinquency rate decreased by 0.21 percentage points year over year, while 30 collection rate increased by 3.23 percentage points. This robust asset quality has laid a solid foundation for our 2025 strategic planning. And with optimized risk strategies now firmly in place. We expect risk performance to remain stable in the coming quarters. Benefiting from a favorable interest rate environment and robust asset quality, we maintained our negotiating leverage on the funding side and drove a continuous decline in funding costs throughout the year. Speaker 200:09:06Our ABS issuance for the year increased by 21.6% to RMB15.2 billion, further optimizing our funding structure. We also issued the first domestic exchange traded ABS with a AAA international rating, which attracted subscriptions from multiple international institutional investors and expanded our funding channels globally. Our leadership in ABS issuance has given us a distinct competitive advantage in funding. In 2025, we plan to ramp up ABS issuance and increase the share of ABS in our funding mix. Although there has been a slight uptick in interest rate uncertainty this year, we are confident in our ability to drive a moderate decline in our funding costs in the coming year. Speaker 200:09:53The proportion of loan volume from our Capital Light segment increased by approximately 10 percentage points to 53% throughout 2024. We are the first mover to adopt this model and now boast the highest ratio when compared to our industry peers, a direct result of our strong asset quality and precise asset allocation capabilities. Our flexible asset structure ensures that our loan portfolio remains significantly more resilient during market cycles. Over the past year, by onboarding funding partners with more diverse risk appetites, we have strengthened our ability to serve various loan segments and further optimized our asset allocation strategy. This has driven continuous improvements in our ROA under the capital light model. Speaker 200:10:39Our Technology Solutions business reached meaningful scale in 2024. We continued to enhance and upgrade our credit tech solution, FocusPRO, to meet the diverse needs of financial institutions. Over the year, we added 11 new partner institutions, bringing the total to 16 with 11 already live on our platform. Loan volume under the FocusPro model grew at a compound monthly growth rate of 17% in 2024. By extensively engaging with our partners, we have seen strong demand from financial institutions for AI driven solutions. Speaker 200:11:17In response, we plan to develop an AI plus bank agent platform to help banks address pain points in their core business processes and improve operational efficiency. We look forward to sharing more updates on this initiative in the coming quarters. AI is deeply embedded in our DNA, empowering every stage of our operations. Over the past year, AI has driven significant efficiency improvements across our business from AI co pilot models in loan collection and telemarketing to automating the development of marketing materials with AIGC technology and assisting developers with coding. As large language models increasingly mature and DeepSeq significantly improves inference efficiency, we will allocate more resources to the application of AI across credit scenarios going forward. Speaker 200:12:06First and foremost, risk management is the cornerstone of our business. We have gained valuable insights from over 200,000,000 users and developed more than 2,400 models with 590,000 data dimensions. In 2024 alone, we iterated our models more than 670x. We believe DeepSeq will revolutionize how data is mined and analyzed in risk management, transitioning us from a single model to a multimodal approach and driving exponential growth in data dimensions. Its powerful reasoning capabilities will enable us to further enhance user profiling and improve the accuracy of end to end risk identification. Speaker 200:12:48Second, we are fully committed to advancing our AI plus strategy. We plan to build an agent platform that will empower core lending processes, leveraging the memory, planning and collaboration capabilities of AI agents. This platform will fundamentally reshape how we operate, boosting efficiency, while unlocking greater potential within our teams to drive even more business value. We have assembled a dedicated team to execute this strategy and expect one third of our core business processes to be powered by this agent platform in the next one or two years. This initiative has already gained strong traction among our financial institution partners and we believe AI plus Bank will become a key pillar of our technology solution business moving forward. Speaker 200:13:35In the second half of twenty twenty four, we saw marginal improvements in the macroeconomic environment and a modest recovery in credit demand. The 2025 government work report emphasized a commitment to supporting technological innovation, boosting consumption and advancing the AI plus initiative, including the widespread adoption of large language models. We will continue to observe the impact these initiatives will have on our business. From a long term perspective, our vision is to become a globally respected fintech company. To achieve this vision, we are executing a one core, two wing strategy, where our domestic credit business serves as the core, and our technology solutions business and international expansion serve as the two wings. Speaker 200:14:22This strategy will allow us to continuously expand business boundaries and drive digital financial inclusion on a larger scale. Looking ahead to 2025, we remain cautiously optimistic and expect our core credit business to maintain high quality development, while our Technology Solutions business will expand the depth and breadth of our partnerships with banks through our AI plus strategy. For international expansion, we will maintain a disciplined approach, focusing on markets with stable regulatory environments and solid infrastructure. We will start small, move quickly and iterate continuously as we progress. We look forward to sharing more updates on our journey in the future. Speaker 200:15:05In 2024, we further optimized capital allocation to enhance shareholder returns, executing our share repurchase plan at a pace significantly ahead of market expectations. Our dividends and buybacks for 2024 amounted to USD 180,000,000 and USD $410,000,000, respectively, with total shareholder returns reaching 100% of our 2023 GAAP net income. As of the end of twenty twenty four, we had repurchased a total of 24,500,000.0 ADSs and have begun executing a new repurchase plan of up to USD $450,000,000 in 2025. We are confident in the future of our company and remain dedicated to delivering long term value to our shareholders. Moving forward, we will continue to prioritize efficient capital allocation and shareholder value creation through recurring share buybacks and dividends. Speaker 200:15:57With that, I will now turn the call over to Alex. Speaker 300:16:04Thank you, Haixin. Good morning and good evening, everyone. Welcome to our fourth quarter earnings call. We closed the year with a strong Q4 as microenvironment start to see tentative indication of modest improvement in user activities. Our continuous effort to optimize operation, improve efficiencies and manage risk exposures generate healthy financial results and operating metrics. Speaker 300:16:32Total net revenue for Q4 was $4,480,000,000 versus $4,370,000,000 in Q3 and April a year ago. Revenue from credit driven service, Capital Heavy, was $2,890,000,000 in Q4 compared to $2,900,000,000 in Q3 and $3,250,000,000 a year ago. The year on year decline was mainly due to significant decline in off balance sheet loans despite strong contribution from on balance sheet loans and other value added services. Overall funding cost was stable Q on Q in a seasonally tightening funding environment. Revenue from platform service, Captain Light, was $1,590,000,000 in Q4 compared to $1,470,000,000 in Q3 and $1,250,000,000 a year ago. Speaker 300:17:24The year on year growth was mainly due to strong contribution from ICE and other value added service, more than offsetting the decline in capitalized loan facilitation. For the full year twenty twenty four, platform service account for roughly 53% of the total loan volume and 58% of the year end loan balance. We expect the ratio to be roughly stable in the near term. During the quarter, average IRR of loans we originated and or facilitated was 21.3% compared to 21.4% in prior quarter. Looking forward, we expect pricing to be fluctuated around this level for the coming quarters. Speaker 300:18:08Sales and marketing expenses increased 25% Q on Q, but declined 5% year on year. The sequential increase was mainly due to increased customers' activity and the typical Q4 seasonality. We added approximately 1,690,000 new credit line users in Q4 versus 1,580,000 in Q3. We will continue to make timely adjustment to the pace of the new user acquisition based on micro conditions from time to time and further diversify our user acquisition channels and improve user engagement and retention. Meanwhile, we will also continue to focus on re energizing existing user base as repeat borrowers historically contributed vast majority of our business. Speaker 300:18:57Ninety day delinquency rate was two point zero nine percent in Q4 compared to two point seven percent in Q3. Day one delinquency was 4.8% in Q4 versus 4.6% in Q3. '30 day collection rate was 88.1% in Q4 versus eighty seven point four percent in Q3. Another key risk metrics, C M2, which represents the outstanding delinquency rate after thirty day collection improved slightly Q on Q to 0.57% with higher loan volume. We are comfortable with our current risk exposure and we expect to see relatively stable risk metrics in the coming months. Speaker 300:19:42Under current macro condition and geopolitical uncertainties, we continue to take a prudent approach to book provisions against potential credit losses. Total new provision for risk bearing loans in Q4 were approximately RMB2.07 billion versus RMB1.63 billion in Q3. The increase in new provision was mainly due to increase in risk direct loan volume Q on Q and higher provision booking ratios. Writebacks of previous provisions were approximately $1,020,000,000 in Q4 versus $910,000,000 in Q3. Provision coverage ratio, which is defined as total outstanding provisions divided by total outstanding delinquent risk bearing loan balance between ninety and one hundred and eighty days or 617% in Q4, a historical high compared to 482% in Q3. Speaker 300:20:48Non GAAP net profit was $1,970,000,000 in Q4 compared to RMB1.83 billion in Q3. The significant improvement in profitability was mainly due to favorable year end tax adjustments. Non GAAP net income per fully diluted ADS was RMB13.66 in Q4 compared to RMB12.35 in Q3 and RMB7.14 a year ago, as strong earning growth and proactive share repurchase created significant EPS accretion. Effective tax rate for Q4 was 1% compared to our typical ETR of approximately 15%. The lower than normal ETR was mainly due to benefit from withholding tax provision adjustment as withholding tax rate was lower to 5% in Q4. Speaker 300:21:48With solid operating result and higher contribution from capitalized model, our leverage ratio, which is defined as risk bearing loan balance divided by shareholders' equity, was 2.4 times in Q4, near historical low. We expect to see leverage ratio fluctuate around this level in the near future. We generated approximately $3,050,000,000 cash from operations in Q4 compared to $2,370,000,000 in Q3. The sequential increase in operating cash flow was mainly due to better operating results and lower tax payout. Total cash and cash equivalents and short term investments was $10,360,000,000 in Q4 compared to $9,770,000,000 in Q3. Speaker 300:22:36As we continue to generate strong cash flow from operations, we will further optimize our capital allocation to support our business initiatives and to return our shareholders. During Q4, we in aggregate repurchased approximately 3,100,000.0 ADS in open market for a total amount of approximately $1,070,000 inclusive of commissions at the average price of $34.5 per ADS. As such, we have completed substantially all of the $350,000,000 share repurchase plan we announced on 03/12/2024. Furthermore, on 11/19/2024, our Board of Directors approved a new share repurchase plan to buy back up to $450,000,000 worth of ADS over a twelve month period starting 01/01/2025. As of 03/14/2025, we have in aggregate purchased approximately 2,200,000 ADSs in open market for a total amount of approximately $86,000,000 inclusive of commissions at the average price of $39.7 per ADS under the new share repurchase plan. Speaker 300:23:59The proactive execution of share repurchase plan demonstrates management's confidence and commitment to the future of the company, and the management intend to further use share repurchase to accelerate EP ADS accretion. In accordance with our current dividend policy, our board has approved a dividend of US0.35 dollars per Class A ordinary share or $0.7 per ADS for the second half of twenty twenty four to holders of record of Class A ordinary shares and ADSs as of the close of the business on 04/23/2005, Hong Kong Times and New York Times, respectively. We intend to gradually increase the dividend per ADS on a semi annual basis. Finally, regarding our business outlook, while we start to see some tentative sign of marginal improvement in users' activity, we will continue to take a prudent approach in business planning for 2025 and focus on enhancing efficiency of our operations. For the first quarter of twenty twenty five, the company expect to generate non GAAP net income between RMB1.8 billion and RMB1.9 billion, representing a year over year growth between 4958%. Speaker 300:25:24This outlook reflects the company's current and preliminary view, which is subject to material changes. With that, I would like to conclude our prepared remarks. Operator, we can now take some questions. Speaker 200:25:37Thank Operator00:26:07Thank you. Your first question comes from Richard Zu with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:27:08Two questions from me. Number one on the AI, could management discuss what areas we're seeing the most potential to integrate it, maybe DeepSeek and other AI modules and what type of efficiency could be achieved and any progress so far? Second of all, there's been some obviously policy support since September of last year. Are we seeing any credit demand recovery at the moment? And what's the credit demand at the moment outlook for 2025? Speaker 400:27:40Any improved credit outlook as well as supply maybe credit growth outlook? Thank you. Speaker 500:27:51Okay. Richard, thank you. For your first question about the AI and DeepSeq, And actually, it's a really hot topic for now. And over the past year, we are happy to see the great improvement in large language model technology, especially in its reasoning efficiency. We believe credit is a perfect scenario for AI application, because this industry has a strong data foundation and a high degree of digitalization. Speaker 500:28:33Last year, we had a lot of AI practice and efficiency work like sales, loan collection, intelligence marketing and R and D. For example, we launched the Copilot System to empower our collection team By analyzing our historical phone calls, the system can effectively read users' intent and suggest how to effectively communicate with the users. So far, the adoption rate of the KOBALA system among our collection team has reached about 84%. Daily usage is roughly 30 times per person. And this year, we will allocate more resources to applying AI into our credit assessment, leveraging the AI reasoning capabilities to enhance our ability to analyze credit reports. Speaker 500:29:43One example is when we use feature recognition during the loan application process, AI will recognize additional information from the pictures or videos, such as users' clothing or their surroundings. This information can be cross checked with the identity information provided by the users to reduce the fraud risk. This year, we will put a small portion of our traffic into the end to end AI driven risk decision making process. We are really looking forward to the results of this test. In addition, we are fully committed to advancing our AI plus strategy. Speaker 500:30:43We plan to build an aging platform that will empower our whole company. This AI agent could become our digital employees working together with us. We have built a dedicated team to execute this AI plus strategy and by the end of the year, we expect this team to grow to around 150 people. In the next one year, we expect one third of our core business processes will be powered by this aging platform. We have seen strong interest for the engineering platform among our financial institution partners and we believe AEI plus bank will make our technology solution business more competitive. Speaker 500:31:44And I want to say over the past decade, we have captured the growth opportunities in the net plus era. We are confident that based on our scenario, technology and data, we are also at a good position to capture the AI plus opportunities. That's for your first question. And for the second question about customer demand, yes, we did observe some improvements in user activities after September 21. For example, the loan application ratio was 10% higher in Q4 versus Q3. Speaker 500:32:38In January, we also noticed seasonal pickup in credit demand ahead of Chinese New Year, especially from SME users. Then credit demand declined in February due to the holiday, but rebounded in March. Based on the current situation, we expect Q1 loan volume to grow by more than 10% year over year. At this stage, it is I think it is still too early for us to call for macro recovery. We still want to adopt a prudent approach to plan our business for this year. Speaker 500:33:32But if the market environment improves meaningfully, we will adjust our strategy timely to capture the growth opportunities. Thank you. Operator00:33:48Your next question comes from Alex Yee with UBS. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:34:33So my first question is about what's the drivers for the movement of the two early asset quality indicators in Q4, including day one delinquency ratio and thirty day collection ratio. What's the latest trend in Q1 so far and the outlook going forward? And second question is about the net tariff outlook, which was guided by management previously at around slightly above 5% for the full year. So based on your latest results and your operation into this year so far, so what's the is there any adjustment to this guidance? Thank Speaker 100:37:19Okay. Let me do the translation for Mr. Zheng. First, let me explain how we monitor our risk internally. We usually look at both the day one delinquency rate and the thirty day collection rate together because individual metrics can fluctuate for various reasons. Speaker 100:37:37What we focus on more is the C2M2 ratio, which is the delinquency rate after thirty day collection period. Based on this metrics, our risk level is very stable. Now about the slight increase of our day one delinquency rate and the collection rate compared to Q3, it was mainly due to the optimization we've made to our repayment reminder strategy. We reduced the coverage of our early reminder by about 30% to improve user experience without compromising our loss rate. As a result, some of our high quality users missed the repayment on the due date, but they quickly caught up. Speaker 100:38:24That's why you will see a small increase in both day one delinquency rate and collection rate, but it didn't have any meaningful impact on our actual credit losses. Our risk performance in January and February was pretty much in line with Q4 with overall risk levels remaining stable. I also want to emphasize that we are not aiming to reduce our risk to the absolute lowest level as it doesn't serve the best interest of the company. Right now, with a decent level of take rate, we have a solid margin of safety to experiment with new strategies and find a better balance between growth and risk. Thank you. Speaker 300:39:12Okay. And Alex, I will respond to your second part of the question about the take rate. As you know, throughout 2024, we have been on a steady improvement trend in take rate as we reduce the risk and with the funding cost continue to trending lower throughout last year. So by the end of last year, in Q4, our take rate net accrued revenue approach to 6%. So that's the trend for last year. Speaker 300:39:43And obviously, there are some one off factors, as you guys know, for example, the mix change regarding a revenue recognition difference between the second half and first half. But excluding all these kind of one off factors, I think we're looking at for this year. It's a reasonable assumption. As you mentioned, we achieved a sort of a 5% above kind of a take rate for the year. And overall, we, as our CRO just mentioned, we have enough sort of a cushion in our take rate or our risk metrics that enable us to actually do a little bit testing around the margin. Speaker 300:40:38If we see the opportunity, which could be resulted by the microenvironment change or could be resolved by the user activity change, if we see the opportunity, we will take that and try on the margin to see whether we can bring the incremental marginal probability on top of our sort of a base case. So that will be the process we will continue to pushing throughout 2025. The end results or the ultimate goal is to really drive higher profit total profit on top of the sort of the base case there. So that's our approach to looking at this year's profitability and this year's kind of a take rate. Operator00:41:31Thank you. Your next question comes from Cindy Wang with China Renaissance. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:42:01Thanks for taking my question. So I have a question related to the regulation side. So last week, National Financial Regulatory Administration issued a notice requiring financial institutions to promote consumer finance and boost consumption to boost consumption in China. So how do you see the new policy impact to the overall industry and the company? Thank you. Speaker 500:42:32Okay. Sandy, I'm glad you mentioned this. It's really a big news for our industry. We believe this document sends a very positive signal and we are very encouraged. It is very clear that the government's direction is to boost consumption by encouraging the development of consumer credit industry. Speaker 500:43:01And I think there will be a series of policies to support that direction. I think we noticed three details in the document. The first, increasing the supply of consumer loans, which means support in terms of monetary policy and liquidity. And secondly, they encourage financial institutions to increase loan volumes and set reasonable terms of for loan products, which means that the regulator will provide more flexible space for financial institutions. And thirdly, they emphasize the consumer protection and providing support for users who have difficulty in repayment. Speaker 500:43:59In order, the regulators have fully recognized the value of consumer finance in boosting consumption. Therefore, we expect that the regulator environment will remain relatively stable, leaving us more room to innovate and serve our customers. Thank you. Operator00:44:27Your next question comes from Emma Su with Bank of America Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:44:59So I have a question about the funding cost. So is your funding cost continuing to decline and what's the lowest level you think the funding cost can go to? Speaker 500:45:12Okay. Thank you, Emma. In terms of funding costs, over the past few years, our funding costs have continued to decline even much faster compared to the LTR. This is partially driven by the risk cut, but more driven by the demand over supply of consumer credit as assets. In the future, if macro improves the supply and demand situation will also change and we always emphasize that financial institutions have their operating costs. Speaker 500:45:53The current cost of funds has already approached the bottom line of financial institutions. And so there is limited room for further decline. And in addition to the funding provided by financial institutions, a significant portion of our funding comes from ADS. We will continue to issue more ABS this year to further optimize our funding structure. So hope we can achieve further decline in overall funding costs. Speaker 500:46:35Thank you. Speaker 300:46:37Yes. Just Emma, I just want to add a couple of points. So basically, you can see there are three factors to really drive the funding cost, two external and one internal. The two external are one, the LPR obviously is the if you see the reduction in the LPR, it will more or less kind of a pass through to us a little bit. But at the same time, the supplydemand situation will also have the impact on the funding costs. Speaker 300:47:13In particular, if the macro situation getting a little bit hot, then you will you may run into a short of a fund kind of environment overall that certainly will put some pressure on our funding costs there. So that's two external factors. The internal one on the ABS side, last year, we did about RMB15 billion, a little bit over RMB50 billion in ABS issuance, and which should represent about 20 some percent increase over the year before. I think, at least from our planning perspective, we try to maintain this kind of a year over year growth pace for this year. If we can achieve that, that will certainly help us from mix perspective reduce the overall funding cost a little bit. Speaker 300:48:08But net net, given we are how low we are already be, so there is a limited the space in terms of downward movement will still be quite limited. Thank you. Operator00:48:22Your next question comes from Yada Li with CICC. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:48:46Then now to the translation. Hello management. Thank you for taking my questions. My question is about the shareholders' return. I was wondering do you expect to deliver more value to the shareholders and how to view the sustainability and is there still potential for future growth? Speaker 300:49:02That's all. Thank you. Sure. Thank you, Yara. I'll take this one. Speaker 300:49:10We have been very committed to return values to our shareholder in the past couple of years. And we are looking at if you look at the 2024, the actual payout almost represent 100% of our earnings for 2023 there. And so going forward, we have been saying that we try to maintain a 70 plus percent payout ratio for the next few years. And given that we also have a target to kind of shrink our share base by a significant percentage, so we put the current priority and also maybe the next year's priority into the share buyback side. And we have the current $450,000,000 share buyback program running so far in the first quarter, even though our share price have been moving up quite significantly, we still maintain a very consistent pace in terms of executing the current RMB450 million buyback program. Speaker 300:50:20And we intend to continue to do so for the remainder of the year. If there's opportunity arise, we also may consider to accelerate the buyback program down the road. On the dividend side, given the priority for now is on the buyback, we try to achieve a continued increased per share dividend on the semi annual basis. For example, this quarter, we declared a $0.7 per ADS dividend versus six months ago, that's only about $0.6 So it's a pretty significant raise in dividend. And you should expect that the dividend per share number to continue increase over the course of next few dividends given that we are shrinking our share base quite significantly and we also have to meet the Board authorized at least 20% dividend payout ratio. Speaker 300:51:34So mathematically, you have to see an increased DPS in the going forward basis there. And in the long run, once we achieve our sort of a share repurchase target, which may be about two years down the road, we will at that time, reconsider the mix between the buyback and the dividend. But that's still a little bit long time away. So for now, the priority is still be on the buyback side. Thank you. Operator00:52:11Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'll now hand back to management for closing remarks. Speaker 300:52:19Okay. Thank you, everyone, to join us for today's conference. We are very efficient to make the call going very quickly than we thought. But if you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact us offline. Thank you. Operator00:52:37That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by