NASDAQ:BRAG Bragg Gaming Group Q4 2024 Earnings Report $4.11 -0.04 (-0.85%) Closing price 04/25/2025 03:58 PM EasternExtended Trading$4.11 +0.00 (+0.12%) As of 04/25/2025 04:42 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Bragg Gaming Group EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.03Consensus EPS -$0.05Beat/MissBeat by +$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/ABragg Gaming Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$28.97 millionExpected Revenue$26.70 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$2.27 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABragg Gaming Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date3/20/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, March 20, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsBragg Gaming Group's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress ReleaseEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Bragg Gaming Group Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 20, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone. My name is Regina, and thank you for joining the fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four earnings conference call for Bragg Gaming Group. I'll shortly hand the call over to Bragg Gaming Group CEO, Mateusz Mazi, who will comment on Bragg's fourth quarter performance and its full year '20 '20 '4 performance and Bragg's CFO, Robbie Bressler, who will review and discuss the company's fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four financial results. I would like to remind you, if you have not already done so, that you can review Bragg's fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four results presentation on the company's investor website at investors.bragg.group. That's investors, plural with an s, then go to the events and presentation section. Operator00:00:45On this call, there will be a review of Frac's financial and operating results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2024. Following these prepared remarks, the conference call will be opened to a question and answer period. I would like to remind you that certain statements made on this conference call and the responses to various questions may constitute forward looking information or future oriented financial information within the meaning of applicable securities laws. If you have not already done so, please familiarize yourself with Bragg's full explanation of these risk factors available on the second slide of Bragg's fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four earnings presentation, which is titled Forward Looking Statements and which is published on the website at investors.bragg.group. This information is also available in Bragg's recently filed fourth quarter and full year press release and other publicly available disclosure. Operator00:01:40I'd like to turn the call now to Mateusz Mazi, Chief Executive Officer of Bragg. Speaker 100:01:47Good morning, everyone. My name is Mateusz Mazi. I'm the Chairman and the CEO of Bragg. On this call today, I'll start with our fourth quarter and full year operational highlights, including our key launches and latest news, and then I'll pass the line to Robbie, who will discuss our latest financial results. When Robbie has given his commentary on the numbers, I'll discuss more about our strategy and operations as well as our outlook for 2025. Speaker 100:02:16And after that, Robbie and I will be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. To start, I want to give a little reminder of who we are. We create and deliver cutting edge casino games from our in house proprietary casino game studios as well as on behalf of carefully selected third party studio partners. With our proprietary player account management software and full in house developed iGaming technology stack, we empower operators to launch and scale their operations, providing them with the tools required to seamlessly launch, run, scale and optimize their casino, sports betting and lottery websites for maximum success. And we're focused on enhancing the end user experience, leveraging the huge amounts of data we process using our advanced analytics and powerful AI technologies to enhance player engagement, maximize revenue potential and drive smarter, more efficient iGaming operations. Speaker 100:03:30Now let me tell you about our journey in the past year. Throughout 2024, we've taken decisive and meaningful steps to support growth across all of our key business areas, a strategy which has delivered a stronger and more resilient business going forward into the future. We've added experienced industry experts to the Bragg executive team, supporting Bragg's growth trajectory beginning with the addition of Simon Dudnick, formerly of SportsRadar, as our new Chief Human Resources Officer the the recruitment of former DGC and Microgaming Executive Neil White as Chief Commercial Officer Tomaso Dikio, formerly of CAMBI, joint as Chief Legal and Compliance Officer and my colleague on this call, Robbie Bressler, a former senior Bali's executive as our Chief Financial Officer. We've increased our market penetration in North America, a hugely important market for us. In October, we launched in Delaware, our fifth U. Speaker 100:04:38S. IGaming state with Rush Street Interactive, Petrivers on Lancino. We have continued to expand our North American distribution with notable launches with PetMGM in Pennsylvania last June, Caesars in Pennsylvania and Ontario in August. Most recently, we launched our content with DraftKings in Pennsylvania last Friday, March 14 and with Fanatics in Michigan on Monday this week. We now reach over 90% of the total addressable U. Speaker 100:05:11S. ICasino market of over $8,000,000,000 with our proprietary and exclusive online casino content and our progress on this strategic goal is paying dividends. I can share that during the first quarter of twenty twenty five, we are comfortably on track to more than double wagering on our proprietary and exclusive games in North America compared to what we saw in the first quarter of last year. Our most recent release Dragon Power Triple Gold from our in house studio Wildstreet Gaming was launched just twelve days ago, but is already looking like it will be the best performing game we have ever released. We're also proud to be forging strategic partnerships such as our recently announced content development and technology leasing agreement with Caesars Entertainment, leveraging our slots development expertise and proprietary technology while further strengthening ties with an important top tier U. Speaker 100:06:11S. Partner. Strengthening our already dominant position in The Netherlands, we supported our existing partners Betnation.nl, ComeOn Nl and seven eleven dot nl with launches of Sportsbook during 2024 using technology from our fantastic third party Sportsbook partners. We also added our sixth PAM customer in the Dutch market in July by launching HardRockCasino.nl powered by the Brac PAM and full iCasino tech stack. Sticking with our PAM, we added our second PAM partner in The Czech Republic, powering the launch of Kingsbet.cz in June. Speaker 100:06:57In the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four, we announced that significant insider share purchases have been made, demonstrating management belief and confidence in the business going forward. We have also introduced a new stock appreciation rights incentive plan. This plan aligns senior management with shareholders by rewarding long term growth with the addition of accelerated vesting in the event of an earlier change of control. We doubled down on our commitment and execution of our strategic growth plans by launching our proprietary and exclusive iGaming content in Brazil on day one of the opening of the regulated market on 01/01/2025, establishing a strong position in this emerging and important market for BRAK. Lastly, we were pleased to announce recently that we have grown our Canadian footprint into a second province, Quebec, agreeing a content led partnership with Lotte Quebec, the local provincially licensed monopoly operator. Speaker 100:08:08Now I'm going to turn the line over to Robbie to discuss our financial results. Robbie? Speaker 200:08:15Thank you, Mats, and good morning to everybody. I will now cover our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2024. Total revenue for the fourth quarter was million, another record high, up 16% compared to the fourth quarter twenty twenty three. Additionally, Q4 twenty twenty four gross profits grew by 31% to million with gross profit margin rising by six fifty basis points to 58%. Adjusted EBITDA during Q4 also grew by 68% to million, our fourth consecutive sequential quarter of growth. Speaker 200:09:02Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 17%, five thirty basis points higher than the 12% we reported in the same period last year. Our performance in Q4 twenty twenty four was fueled by the continued expansion of our proprietary content primarily in North America, allowing total proprietary content across the whole company to reach a record 13.3% of our total revenue in Q4. Growing our proprietary content remains a top strategic priority as it enhances margins and strengthens our competitive position. In addition, revenue from our PAM and turnkey solutions continue to gain momentum, rising to 24% of total Q4 revenue. The combined growth of proprietary content and PAM and turnkey solutions is driving a favorable shift in our revenue mix reducing dependency on lower margin aggregated third party content revenue. Speaker 200:10:05In Q4 twenty twenty four, aggregated third party content revenue accounted for just 45% of total revenue, the lowest level in the past eight quarters. Total revenue for the year end 2024 was million, up 9% compared to 2023. Additionally, 2024 gross profits grew by 8% to million with gross margin decreasing slightly by 40 basis points to 53%. Adjusted EBITDA for the full year 2024 grew by 4% to million with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 15.5% reflecting an 80 basis points decline from the prior year. However, as previously noted, our margin performance has improved through 2024 as evident in our Q4 twenty twenty four adjusted EBITDA margin driven by continued shift towards higher margin products. Speaker 200:11:05Turning to the balance sheet, as of 12/31/2024, we had EUR10.5 million in cash and cash equivalents. During the year, we fully settled the remaining balance of the Linde convertible debt further strengthening our balance sheet. Our only remaining debt facility is a USD Speaker 300:11:247,000,000 Speaker 200:11:26secured promontory note maturing in April 2025. We are actively working to refinance this facility upon maturity with a more flexible structure, ideally transitioning to a revolving credit facility that provides enhanced liquidity while securing lower borrowing costs. Net working capital excluding deferred consideration and promissory note at the December amounted to million. Looking ahead to 2025, I reiterate the guidance provided in January 2025 where revenue is projected to reach between 117,500,000.0 and €123,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA is expected to rise to between €19,000,000 to €21,500,000 At the midpoint of our guidance, revenue is forecasted to grow by 18% while adjusted EBITDA is expected to rise by 28% with adjusted EBITDA margins improving by 140 basis points. Finally, we continue to develop a robust pipeline of opportunities that if realized could further enhance our 2025 performance beyond the assumptions included in our current guidance. Speaker 200:12:47I will now hand the call back over to Max. Speaker 100:12:50Thank you, Robbie. I want to give you a snapshot of our progress over the course of 2024, both from an operational and strategic perspective and outline how our products and technology are ensuring that Bragg continues to stand out from the competition. We get the highest margins on content when we are the owners of the games and we also own the distribution channels. And during the last year, we continued to ramp up our proprietary game production from our in house studios including Wall Street Gaming, Atomic Slot Lab and Indigo Magic, and we also increased our proprietary distribution networks by launching our Revenue generated at Bragg from proprietary content has risen at a compound annual rate of 59% since 2021 and at an even higher rate for proprietary content, which also gets to market through our proprietary distribution channels. I'm excited to share that our momentum has continued into Q1 with Dragon Power Triple Gold launching exclusively with BetMGM in early March and performing unbelievably well, our strongest launch yet, a true testament to our proprietary content capabilities. Speaker 100:14:11Our proprietary content now reaches 90% of The U. S. IGaming market, which is worth an estimated US8 billion dollars And as a reminder, we believe that The U. S. ICasino market at maturity could be worth US77 billion dollars We have elite partnerships supplying our content to all Tier one operators, DraftKings, Bandeo, BetMGM, Caesars and more, leading the way in U. Speaker 100:14:42S. IGaming and all partnered with Bragg positioning us to capitalize on this huge market as it continues to expand. We're licensed in all key iGaming states, most recently launching in Delaware in October, and we expect to launch in West Virginia during the second quarter of this year, which will take us to six U. S. IGaming states live. Speaker 100:15:09We've got two industry veterans, Neil White and Garrick Morris leading our U. S. Push as Chief Commercial Officer and Senior VP Commercial for The U. S. And Canada. Speaker 100:15:20As we announced during the first quarter of twenty twenty five, we're set to turbocharge our U. S. Growth through our expanded partnership with Caesars Digital. The enhanced partnership includes a strategic technology licensing framework Speaker 300:15:40for Caesars to lease Bragg's RGS as well as Speaker 100:15:40further options to license the Bragg Hub product delivery and casino game aggregation platform and Bragg's Fuse player engagement platform. In line with our confident outlook for 2025, we're estimating that The U. S. IGaming market will account for 15% of our total revenue over the course of the year. I spoke earlier about our launch in the Brazilian regulated IMEI market, which took place on 01/01/2025. Speaker 100:16:11We're now strategically positioned to make a big impact in Brazil with content based agreements in place with more than 30% of licensed operators in the Brazilian market, a figure which should rise to more than 50% by the end of the second quarter of twenty twenty five. I want to expand on this with some important numbers to consider. Brazil's iGaming market is expected to generate gross gaming revenue of USD 1,500,000,000.0 in 2025, surging to GGR of US3.3 billion dollars over the next four years. Into this, we're launching our high margin proprietary and exclusive content, a strategy we are all projecting will see up to 10% of our total revenue coming from the Brazilian iGaming market this year. Outside of The Americas, Bragg's growth trajectory remains strong. Speaker 100:17:10We're continuing to expand in European and rest of the world markets and are constantly innovating and exploring new products and ways to better service our partners' needs. We're accelerating growth through integrations with leading operators across key European markets such as Italy, Spain, Sweden, as well as The UK. We have been expanding our Powered by Bragg studio partnerships to further enhance our exclusive and localized online casino content portfolios. Outside of content, we are continuing to advance our frontiers of our technology through innovation, notably with our Fuse marketing and promotional toolset, as well as leveraging AI driven insights to enhance the player experience, while at the same time maximizing our profitability. Looking ahead, we have a strong pipeline of content, technology and product opportunities driven by innovation and with the potential to unlock further growth in 2025 with additional upside potential beyond our current 2025 guidance. Speaker 100:18:24Thank you for listening. I'd like to take this opportunity to pay tribute to the entire Bragg team for their continued unwavering hard work and commitment during the fourth quarter and throughout 2024 and beyond. And now I will turn the line back to the operator and Ravi and I will be happy to take any questions. Operator00:18:52Our first question will come from the line of David McFadgen with Cormark Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:18:59Yes. Hi. So a couple of questions. Just looking at The U. S. Speaker 400:19:03Market, you're expecting it to be up to 15% of revenue. I guess it was about 5% in 2024, if I got that correct. Just wondering if you can confirm that. And then is your deal with Caesars, is that going to be the primary driver to take it in? Speaker 300:19:22Thanks, David. I can answer that. So, in terms of our growth in The U. S. For 2025, Caesars is definitely part of it, but a big chunk of our growth is going to be coming from exclusive and proprietary content. Speaker 300:19:35So the content that or the slot game that Matt mentioned, dragging the power triple gold, that's an example of what sort of content we believe is going to drive that growth in The U. S. Speaker 400:19:51Okay. All right. And then on Brazil, right now you have more than 30% license operators using your content or your PAM. And I think you said you'd expect it to go to 50% by the end of Q2 or Q1? Speaker 300:20:12I think through Q2, we will get to that level. And just to be clear, the current play in Brazil for us is on the content side. So we're not certain if PAM is going to be rolled out there, but what we're seeing from the strength of our content has been quite promising. So as of now it's going to be focused on aggregated content, proprietary content and exclusive content rollouts. Speaker 400:20:42Okay. And then just a question on The Netherlands. I think I saw an Industry Trade article talking about potential to ban advertising or at least some advertising on maybe out on the SportsBuddy side in The Netherlands. So I was wondering if you can give us an update on sort of the regulatory environment there and the impact on the market? Speaker 300:21:03I think what you're hearing is the same thing that we're hearing, still seems to be in flux in terms of exactly what's going to come down. Our business is primarily focused on the iCasino side. So any impact of sports betting advertising probably not be too impactful to us. We do project in 2025 to see constant we expect to see the market decrease and contract in 2025 that's built into our assumptions. So far it's moving as we expected. Speaker 300:21:40But we also believe over time because we do have a strong market share in that jurisdiction. So the operators that run off our PAM hold a sizable market share that there will be opportunities to increase that market share as a lot of the smaller operators who don't necessarily have the bandwidth, the ability to absorb the margin decreases because of regulatory changes will come out of the market. So I do think it's over time could be good developments in that region for us. Speaker 400:22:16Okay. And then just lastly on when we look to 2025, can you give us sort of a range in terms of what you expect to spend on PP and E and Intangible? Because I saw that free cash flow is a bit negative. You're spending a fair bit on those two items. I was just wondering if that's going to come off at all? Speaker 300:22:41I expect it to stay relatively consistent. So, we should be scaling it in the sense that our revenue will be increasing in double digits. But I don't expect that our deferred costs to move in the same direction. One thing that will hit us in 2025 is the certification costs for content that we're rolling out. So as previously mentioned, we're doubling the cadence of title releases that we do in an annual period. Speaker 300:23:14So that does bring one time certification costs that do get capitalized and amortized over an estimated life of the content. But again, we won't we do expect to see leverage from what we're spending by increasing our top line. Speaker 400:23:33Okay. All right. Thanks. Operator00:23:37Our next question comes from the line of Jim Luca Tucci with Haywood. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:23:43Hey, good morning. I guess Speaker 500:23:45I can start off on Speaker 600:23:47the gross margin. Seems like it was a record gross margin quarter at 58. And it sounds like you expect continued expansion on the margin side given the revenue shift to proprietary content. Speaker 500:24:02I'm just wondering if you Speaker 600:24:04have any short term or longer term targets on the gross margin side? Speaker 300:24:11Good question. Yes, Q4 was an exceptional performance in terms of gross margin percentage. We do always anticipate Q4 to be our strongest quarter and that's indicative of how what we see from our operators and just performance of iCasino and sportsbooks in general. So, I don't think that's an assumed run rate and based on our guidance our gross profit margin will be less than what we achieved in Q4. But I do think directionally that's where we're moving towards. Speaker 300:24:49And I think through the year, we should be able to get to a level through into Q4 of twenty twenty five that's not too far off of that. But I don't think at this point that Q4 run rates could be assumed for the full period. But we'll wait and see the performance of our proprietary content specifically this Dragon Power Triple Gold. This is really exciting for us. This is the amount of wagering in just the first ten days has been like 1.4 times what we've seen on any title we've ever released. Speaker 300:25:27So we're quite excited about what where our capabilities have gotten to on proprietary content side. So we'll wait and see. Speaker 600:25:37Okay. Thanks for that, Robbie. Good color. And then just if I could ask on your pipeline, I guess, Matt, are there any bigger opportunities that you're working on at the moment? Just wondering if you could give us an update on the activity in your pipeline? Speaker 500:25:59Yes, sure. We have a very strong pipeline of different opportunities in different regions. Obviously, our focus regions are going to stay the same. We're very focused on getting as many operators onboarding onto our aggregation platform in Brazil. We're focused on getting our content distributed in Brazil and we have all licensed operators on our list and actively working on them. Speaker 500:26:34Then U. S, still working on deals that are going to allow us to distribute more content in the regular U. S. Market and obviously working on both aggregation and proprietary content opportunities in Canada as well, where there are still operators that are not signed up to our hub platform or proprietary content platform. Then we have a very strong pipeline of time and turnkey opportunities on both sides of the ocean in Europe and in Americas. Speaker 500:27:15Obviously, can't talk about details there. And I'd say that we're very excited about further regulation in, in United potential further regulation in United States and potential further regulation in some of the markets in Europe where we're actively discussing some of the opportunities that may show up for us in the next twelve to twenty four months. Speaker 600:27:48Okay. That sounds good. So if anything in your pipeline does come to work to head, I'm assuming that that's all accretive to your guidance that you've issued for 2025? Speaker 300:28:05That's correct. Speaker 200:28:06Okay, great. Speaker 600:28:08Great. Yes. Great. And just one more, Robbie, in terms of guidance, how should we think about seasonality for this year? Is it going to be business as usual or anything to look for this year in terms of seasonality? Speaker 300:28:27No, I'd say business as usual. Again, Q4 has always been one of their strongest, if not strongest quarter. So we do expect that again this year. But other than that, we don't expect much impact beyond just the regular cycles of sports and iCasino play. So, usually the summer months are less strong just that the weather people are not necessarily playing as much and sports cycles are not the same, but nothing unusual this year compared to prior years. Speaker 300:29:03Thanks Robbie. I'll pass the line. Operator00:29:11And our next question will come from the line of Jack Vanderard with Maxim Group. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:29:18Okay, great. Good morning guys. Encouraged to see the strong results and outlook. Thanks for taking my questions. I don't have too many left though. Speaker 700:29:26Maybe a question for Matt and Ravi. Just with regards to that robust pipeline of opportunities that you mentioned that's under development but not baked into the guidance. Just a couple of questions there. Does this include both organic that pipeline, both organic growth upside potential and as well as M and A? And then also is there any potential for new U. Speaker 700:29:48S. States going live in 2025 that could be assumed in that kind of pipeline of developing opportunities? Thanks. Speaker 300:29:57Good questions. So in terms of pipeline, it is strictly just I'd say organic opportunities, so to scale our existing products into new opportunities. And we are very excited of what the opportunities are and what we see on the pipeline and when we speak to it. These aren't just ideas or targets that we have on a chalkboard that we're going to go after. These are processes that we're actively involved in whether it's an RFP or we're in discussions to solidify a deal that we can roll out in the near term. Speaker 300:30:34So, things are really progressing very well. And I think we're at a good position in the sense that the amount of opportunities in the pipeline is well beyond what we could tackle in a twenty four month or twelve month period. So, we in a sense have a luxury of going after the opportunities that are going to move the needle the most for us from a valuation point of view. So, we know that bringing more revenue into our North American story is very key. We also want to look for opportunities in our pipeline that leverages existing investments into our technology. Speaker 300:31:12So, we really have good things happening and hope to be able to have some positive announcements in the near future about moving some of these opportunities along. In terms of U. S. States opening up, it's not necessarily baked into any of our, I'd say pipeline opportunities except though we know that The U. S. Speaker 300:31:40Market right now especially on the Icosino side sits at about 12% of The U. S. Total population is being exposed to icosino regulated play. And we also see on the sweep side of things that there's a massive market of players playing iCasino style games in an unregulated environment. So, we are very focused on getting our company well positioned to capitalize on that additional TAM that's going to open up as The U. Speaker 300:32:12S. States open up. So, it's very much in our strategy to be well positioned with operators and with strong products to be able to capitalize on what we think is going to be like a $77,000,000,000 market once it's at maturity from an iCasino point of view. I'm sorry, Jack, I have one more question. Remind me what that was. Speaker 700:32:36Actually, I think you another one was M and A, but you really hit all those you hit the nail on the head with a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot of great color, I guess, that would be built in the upside. The M and A side though as well, if there's anything that would be I don't know, a new vertical maybe within whether it's charitable gaming or the sweepstakes businesses, is there anything else that you could be thinking from an M and A perspective to enter a new vertical? Speaker 300:33:03I'll never say never, but it's not in our core focus right now. Any opportunity to increase the size and scale and bring more shareholder value we'll look at, but it's not a strategic focus right now. Our focus right now is operating as strongly as we can, improving the metrics that we believe are going to add more value to this company and make us more attractive for investors. Speaker 500:33:30Can I ask just a few more things? Yes. So on the positioning, so we have in the last twelve months been able to position ourselves as a Tier one supplier of patent and key solutions and content delivery platforms. We have onboarded clients that are Tier one in respective jurisdictions. And in short term and midterm, we're going to leverage that and use the incredible amounts of data that we have about game activities and behavior of end users to effectively distribute content and effectively place and promote proprietary content in particular at the same time onboard Tier one clients whether they're migrating from old platforms or new players entering new jurisdictions or existing jurisdictions that are still in development and that's going to be our focus in terms of business development and moving forward. Speaker 500:34:41And like Robbie said, execution is our key focus in the next two or three quarters. Speaker 700:34:52I appreciate the added color there. I think that does it for me. Again, congrats on the strong results and outlook. Thanks guys. Speaker 300:34:59Thank you. Operator00:35:01And that will conclude our question and answer session. I'll hand the call back over to management for any closing comments. Speaker 300:35:12Thank you, everyone. I look forward to speaking with you in the near future and talking about our Q1 results in mid May. Thank you very much. Operator00:35:24This concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallBragg Gaming Group Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release Bragg Gaming Group Earnings HeadlinesBragg Gaming Group To Settle USD 5 Million of Secured Promissory Note; Short-term Extension Agreement Reached for Remaining USD 2 MillionApril 25 at 1:30 PM | businesswire.comBragg Gaming Partners with and Invests in Brazilian Specialist Online Casino Studio RapidPlayApril 10, 2025 | tmcnet.comTrump’s treachery Trump’s Final Reset Inside the shocking plot to re-engineer America’s financial system…and why you need to move your money now.April 26, 2025 | Porter & Company (Ad)Bragg Gaming Group Inc. (NASDAQ:BRAG) Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptMarch 24, 2025 | msn.comHaywood Sticks to Its Buy Rating for Bragg Gaming Group Inc (BRAG)March 21, 2025 | markets.businessinsider.comJMP Securities Sticks to Its Buy Rating for Bragg Gaming Group Inc (BRAG)March 21, 2025 | markets.businessinsider.comSee More Bragg Gaming Group Headlines Get Earnings Announcements in your inboxWant to stay updated on the latest earnings announcements and upcoming reports for companies like Bragg Gaming Group? Sign up for Earnings360's daily newsletter to receive timely earnings updates on Bragg Gaming Group and other key companies, straight to your email. Email Address About Bragg Gaming GroupBragg Gaming Group (NASDAQ:BRAG) provides business to business online gaming technology platform and casino content aggregator worldwide. The company offers a range of games, including slot, table, card, video bingo, scratch card, and virtual sports, as well as live dealer games. It also provides player account management platform, a multi-channel and cross-product that enables operators to manage the entire product suite using one shared account and one wallet for casino, lottery, sportsbook, and other operations; and Fuze, a single integrated platform that delivers third party gaming content. In addition, the company offers turnkey and managed services; and holds various content distribution rights through partnerships with selected third-party studios. It offers its products under the Wild Streak, Spin, Atomic Slot Lab, Indigo Magic, Oryx Gaming, iCasino, and sportsbook brands. The company was formerly known as Rockies Financial Corporation and as changed its name to Bragg Gaming Group Inc. in 2018. Bragg Gaming Group Inc. was incorporated in 2004 and is headquartered in Toronto, Canada.View Bragg Gaming Group ProfileRead more More Earnings Resources from MarketBeat Earnings Tools Today's Earnings Tomorrow's Earnings Next Week's Earnings Upcoming Earnings Calls Earnings Newsletter Earnings Call Transcripts Earnings Beats & Misses Corporate Guidance Earnings Screener Earnings By Country U.S. Earnings Reports Canadian Earnings Reports U.K. Earnings Reports Latest Articles Markets Think Robinhood Earnings Could Send the Stock UpIs the Floor in for Lam Research After Bullish Earnings?Market Anticipation Builds: Joby Stock Climbs Ahead of EarningsIs Intuitive Surgical a Buy After Volatile Reaction to Earnings?Seismic Shift at Intel: Massive Layoffs Precede Crucial EarningsRocket Lab Lands New Contract, Builds Momentum Ahead of EarningsAmazon's Earnings Could Fuel a Rapid Breakout Upcoming Earnings Cadence Design Systems (4/28/2025)Welltower (4/28/2025)Waste Management (4/28/2025)AstraZeneca (4/29/2025)Mondelez International (4/29/2025)PayPal (4/29/2025)Starbucks (4/29/2025)DoorDash (4/29/2025)Honeywell International (4/29/2025)Regeneron Pharmaceuticals (4/29/2025) Get 30 Days of MarketBeat All Access for Free Sign up for MarketBeat All Access to gain access to MarketBeat's full suite of research tools. Start Your 30-Day Trial MarketBeat All Access Features Best-in-Class Portfolio Monitoring Get personalized stock ideas. Compare portfolio to indices. Check stock news, ratings, SEC filings, and more. Stock Ideas and Recommendations See daily stock ideas from top analysts. Receive short-term trading ideas from MarketBeat. Identify trending stocks on social media. Advanced Stock Screeners and Research Tools Use our seven stock screeners to find suitable stocks. Stay informed with MarketBeat's real-time news. Export data to Excel for personal analysis. Sign in to your free account to enjoy these benefits In-depth profiles and analysis for 20,000 public companies. Real-time analyst ratings, insider transactions, earnings data, and more. Our daily ratings and market update email newsletter. Sign in to your free account to enjoy all that MarketBeat has to offer. Sign In Create Account Your Email Address: Email Address Required Your Password: Password Required Log In or Sign in with Facebook Sign in with Google Forgot your password? Your Email Address: Please enter your email address. Please enter a valid email address Choose a Password: Please enter your password. Your password must be at least 8 characters long and contain at least 1 number, 1 letter, and 1 special character. Create My Account (Free) or Sign in with Facebook Sign in with Google By creating a free account, you agree to our terms of service. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone. My name is Regina, and thank you for joining the fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four earnings conference call for Bragg Gaming Group. I'll shortly hand the call over to Bragg Gaming Group CEO, Mateusz Mazi, who will comment on Bragg's fourth quarter performance and its full year '20 '20 '4 performance and Bragg's CFO, Robbie Bressler, who will review and discuss the company's fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four financial results. I would like to remind you, if you have not already done so, that you can review Bragg's fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four results presentation on the company's investor website at investors.bragg.group. That's investors, plural with an s, then go to the events and presentation section. Operator00:00:45On this call, there will be a review of Frac's financial and operating results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2024. Following these prepared remarks, the conference call will be opened to a question and answer period. I would like to remind you that certain statements made on this conference call and the responses to various questions may constitute forward looking information or future oriented financial information within the meaning of applicable securities laws. If you have not already done so, please familiarize yourself with Bragg's full explanation of these risk factors available on the second slide of Bragg's fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four earnings presentation, which is titled Forward Looking Statements and which is published on the website at investors.bragg.group. This information is also available in Bragg's recently filed fourth quarter and full year press release and other publicly available disclosure. Operator00:01:40I'd like to turn the call now to Mateusz Mazi, Chief Executive Officer of Bragg. Speaker 100:01:47Good morning, everyone. My name is Mateusz Mazi. I'm the Chairman and the CEO of Bragg. On this call today, I'll start with our fourth quarter and full year operational highlights, including our key launches and latest news, and then I'll pass the line to Robbie, who will discuss our latest financial results. When Robbie has given his commentary on the numbers, I'll discuss more about our strategy and operations as well as our outlook for 2025. Speaker 100:02:16And after that, Robbie and I will be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. To start, I want to give a little reminder of who we are. We create and deliver cutting edge casino games from our in house proprietary casino game studios as well as on behalf of carefully selected third party studio partners. With our proprietary player account management software and full in house developed iGaming technology stack, we empower operators to launch and scale their operations, providing them with the tools required to seamlessly launch, run, scale and optimize their casino, sports betting and lottery websites for maximum success. And we're focused on enhancing the end user experience, leveraging the huge amounts of data we process using our advanced analytics and powerful AI technologies to enhance player engagement, maximize revenue potential and drive smarter, more efficient iGaming operations. Speaker 100:03:30Now let me tell you about our journey in the past year. Throughout 2024, we've taken decisive and meaningful steps to support growth across all of our key business areas, a strategy which has delivered a stronger and more resilient business going forward into the future. We've added experienced industry experts to the Bragg executive team, supporting Bragg's growth trajectory beginning with the addition of Simon Dudnick, formerly of SportsRadar, as our new Chief Human Resources Officer the the recruitment of former DGC and Microgaming Executive Neil White as Chief Commercial Officer Tomaso Dikio, formerly of CAMBI, joint as Chief Legal and Compliance Officer and my colleague on this call, Robbie Bressler, a former senior Bali's executive as our Chief Financial Officer. We've increased our market penetration in North America, a hugely important market for us. In October, we launched in Delaware, our fifth U. Speaker 100:04:38S. IGaming state with Rush Street Interactive, Petrivers on Lancino. We have continued to expand our North American distribution with notable launches with PetMGM in Pennsylvania last June, Caesars in Pennsylvania and Ontario in August. Most recently, we launched our content with DraftKings in Pennsylvania last Friday, March 14 and with Fanatics in Michigan on Monday this week. We now reach over 90% of the total addressable U. Speaker 100:05:11S. ICasino market of over $8,000,000,000 with our proprietary and exclusive online casino content and our progress on this strategic goal is paying dividends. I can share that during the first quarter of twenty twenty five, we are comfortably on track to more than double wagering on our proprietary and exclusive games in North America compared to what we saw in the first quarter of last year. Our most recent release Dragon Power Triple Gold from our in house studio Wildstreet Gaming was launched just twelve days ago, but is already looking like it will be the best performing game we have ever released. We're also proud to be forging strategic partnerships such as our recently announced content development and technology leasing agreement with Caesars Entertainment, leveraging our slots development expertise and proprietary technology while further strengthening ties with an important top tier U. Speaker 100:06:11S. Partner. Strengthening our already dominant position in The Netherlands, we supported our existing partners Betnation.nl, ComeOn Nl and seven eleven dot nl with launches of Sportsbook during 2024 using technology from our fantastic third party Sportsbook partners. We also added our sixth PAM customer in the Dutch market in July by launching HardRockCasino.nl powered by the Brac PAM and full iCasino tech stack. Sticking with our PAM, we added our second PAM partner in The Czech Republic, powering the launch of Kingsbet.cz in June. Speaker 100:06:57In the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four, we announced that significant insider share purchases have been made, demonstrating management belief and confidence in the business going forward. We have also introduced a new stock appreciation rights incentive plan. This plan aligns senior management with shareholders by rewarding long term growth with the addition of accelerated vesting in the event of an earlier change of control. We doubled down on our commitment and execution of our strategic growth plans by launching our proprietary and exclusive iGaming content in Brazil on day one of the opening of the regulated market on 01/01/2025, establishing a strong position in this emerging and important market for BRAK. Lastly, we were pleased to announce recently that we have grown our Canadian footprint into a second province, Quebec, agreeing a content led partnership with Lotte Quebec, the local provincially licensed monopoly operator. Speaker 100:08:08Now I'm going to turn the line over to Robbie to discuss our financial results. Robbie? Speaker 200:08:15Thank you, Mats, and good morning to everybody. I will now cover our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2024. Total revenue for the fourth quarter was million, another record high, up 16% compared to the fourth quarter twenty twenty three. Additionally, Q4 twenty twenty four gross profits grew by 31% to million with gross profit margin rising by six fifty basis points to 58%. Adjusted EBITDA during Q4 also grew by 68% to million, our fourth consecutive sequential quarter of growth. Speaker 200:09:02Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 17%, five thirty basis points higher than the 12% we reported in the same period last year. Our performance in Q4 twenty twenty four was fueled by the continued expansion of our proprietary content primarily in North America, allowing total proprietary content across the whole company to reach a record 13.3% of our total revenue in Q4. Growing our proprietary content remains a top strategic priority as it enhances margins and strengthens our competitive position. In addition, revenue from our PAM and turnkey solutions continue to gain momentum, rising to 24% of total Q4 revenue. The combined growth of proprietary content and PAM and turnkey solutions is driving a favorable shift in our revenue mix reducing dependency on lower margin aggregated third party content revenue. Speaker 200:10:05In Q4 twenty twenty four, aggregated third party content revenue accounted for just 45% of total revenue, the lowest level in the past eight quarters. Total revenue for the year end 2024 was million, up 9% compared to 2023. Additionally, 2024 gross profits grew by 8% to million with gross margin decreasing slightly by 40 basis points to 53%. Adjusted EBITDA for the full year 2024 grew by 4% to million with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 15.5% reflecting an 80 basis points decline from the prior year. However, as previously noted, our margin performance has improved through 2024 as evident in our Q4 twenty twenty four adjusted EBITDA margin driven by continued shift towards higher margin products. Speaker 200:11:05Turning to the balance sheet, as of 12/31/2024, we had EUR10.5 million in cash and cash equivalents. During the year, we fully settled the remaining balance of the Linde convertible debt further strengthening our balance sheet. Our only remaining debt facility is a USD Speaker 300:11:247,000,000 Speaker 200:11:26secured promontory note maturing in April 2025. We are actively working to refinance this facility upon maturity with a more flexible structure, ideally transitioning to a revolving credit facility that provides enhanced liquidity while securing lower borrowing costs. Net working capital excluding deferred consideration and promissory note at the December amounted to million. Looking ahead to 2025, I reiterate the guidance provided in January 2025 where revenue is projected to reach between 117,500,000.0 and €123,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA is expected to rise to between €19,000,000 to €21,500,000 At the midpoint of our guidance, revenue is forecasted to grow by 18% while adjusted EBITDA is expected to rise by 28% with adjusted EBITDA margins improving by 140 basis points. Finally, we continue to develop a robust pipeline of opportunities that if realized could further enhance our 2025 performance beyond the assumptions included in our current guidance. Speaker 200:12:47I will now hand the call back over to Max. Speaker 100:12:50Thank you, Robbie. I want to give you a snapshot of our progress over the course of 2024, both from an operational and strategic perspective and outline how our products and technology are ensuring that Bragg continues to stand out from the competition. We get the highest margins on content when we are the owners of the games and we also own the distribution channels. And during the last year, we continued to ramp up our proprietary game production from our in house studios including Wall Street Gaming, Atomic Slot Lab and Indigo Magic, and we also increased our proprietary distribution networks by launching our Revenue generated at Bragg from proprietary content has risen at a compound annual rate of 59% since 2021 and at an even higher rate for proprietary content, which also gets to market through our proprietary distribution channels. I'm excited to share that our momentum has continued into Q1 with Dragon Power Triple Gold launching exclusively with BetMGM in early March and performing unbelievably well, our strongest launch yet, a true testament to our proprietary content capabilities. Speaker 100:14:11Our proprietary content now reaches 90% of The U. S. IGaming market, which is worth an estimated US8 billion dollars And as a reminder, we believe that The U. S. ICasino market at maturity could be worth US77 billion dollars We have elite partnerships supplying our content to all Tier one operators, DraftKings, Bandeo, BetMGM, Caesars and more, leading the way in U. Speaker 100:14:42S. IGaming and all partnered with Bragg positioning us to capitalize on this huge market as it continues to expand. We're licensed in all key iGaming states, most recently launching in Delaware in October, and we expect to launch in West Virginia during the second quarter of this year, which will take us to six U. S. IGaming states live. Speaker 100:15:09We've got two industry veterans, Neil White and Garrick Morris leading our U. S. Push as Chief Commercial Officer and Senior VP Commercial for The U. S. And Canada. Speaker 100:15:20As we announced during the first quarter of twenty twenty five, we're set to turbocharge our U. S. Growth through our expanded partnership with Caesars Digital. The enhanced partnership includes a strategic technology licensing framework Speaker 300:15:40for Caesars to lease Bragg's RGS as well as Speaker 100:15:40further options to license the Bragg Hub product delivery and casino game aggregation platform and Bragg's Fuse player engagement platform. In line with our confident outlook for 2025, we're estimating that The U. S. IGaming market will account for 15% of our total revenue over the course of the year. I spoke earlier about our launch in the Brazilian regulated IMEI market, which took place on 01/01/2025. Speaker 100:16:11We're now strategically positioned to make a big impact in Brazil with content based agreements in place with more than 30% of licensed operators in the Brazilian market, a figure which should rise to more than 50% by the end of the second quarter of twenty twenty five. I want to expand on this with some important numbers to consider. Brazil's iGaming market is expected to generate gross gaming revenue of USD 1,500,000,000.0 in 2025, surging to GGR of US3.3 billion dollars over the next four years. Into this, we're launching our high margin proprietary and exclusive content, a strategy we are all projecting will see up to 10% of our total revenue coming from the Brazilian iGaming market this year. Outside of The Americas, Bragg's growth trajectory remains strong. Speaker 100:17:10We're continuing to expand in European and rest of the world markets and are constantly innovating and exploring new products and ways to better service our partners' needs. We're accelerating growth through integrations with leading operators across key European markets such as Italy, Spain, Sweden, as well as The UK. We have been expanding our Powered by Bragg studio partnerships to further enhance our exclusive and localized online casino content portfolios. Outside of content, we are continuing to advance our frontiers of our technology through innovation, notably with our Fuse marketing and promotional toolset, as well as leveraging AI driven insights to enhance the player experience, while at the same time maximizing our profitability. Looking ahead, we have a strong pipeline of content, technology and product opportunities driven by innovation and with the potential to unlock further growth in 2025 with additional upside potential beyond our current 2025 guidance. Speaker 100:18:24Thank you for listening. I'd like to take this opportunity to pay tribute to the entire Bragg team for their continued unwavering hard work and commitment during the fourth quarter and throughout 2024 and beyond. And now I will turn the line back to the operator and Ravi and I will be happy to take any questions. Operator00:18:52Our first question will come from the line of David McFadgen with Cormark Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:18:59Yes. Hi. So a couple of questions. Just looking at The U. S. Speaker 400:19:03Market, you're expecting it to be up to 15% of revenue. I guess it was about 5% in 2024, if I got that correct. Just wondering if you can confirm that. And then is your deal with Caesars, is that going to be the primary driver to take it in? Speaker 300:19:22Thanks, David. I can answer that. So, in terms of our growth in The U. S. For 2025, Caesars is definitely part of it, but a big chunk of our growth is going to be coming from exclusive and proprietary content. Speaker 300:19:35So the content that or the slot game that Matt mentioned, dragging the power triple gold, that's an example of what sort of content we believe is going to drive that growth in The U. S. Speaker 400:19:51Okay. All right. And then on Brazil, right now you have more than 30% license operators using your content or your PAM. And I think you said you'd expect it to go to 50% by the end of Q2 or Q1? Speaker 300:20:12I think through Q2, we will get to that level. And just to be clear, the current play in Brazil for us is on the content side. So we're not certain if PAM is going to be rolled out there, but what we're seeing from the strength of our content has been quite promising. So as of now it's going to be focused on aggregated content, proprietary content and exclusive content rollouts. Speaker 400:20:42Okay. And then just a question on The Netherlands. I think I saw an Industry Trade article talking about potential to ban advertising or at least some advertising on maybe out on the SportsBuddy side in The Netherlands. So I was wondering if you can give us an update on sort of the regulatory environment there and the impact on the market? Speaker 300:21:03I think what you're hearing is the same thing that we're hearing, still seems to be in flux in terms of exactly what's going to come down. Our business is primarily focused on the iCasino side. So any impact of sports betting advertising probably not be too impactful to us. We do project in 2025 to see constant we expect to see the market decrease and contract in 2025 that's built into our assumptions. So far it's moving as we expected. Speaker 300:21:40But we also believe over time because we do have a strong market share in that jurisdiction. So the operators that run off our PAM hold a sizable market share that there will be opportunities to increase that market share as a lot of the smaller operators who don't necessarily have the bandwidth, the ability to absorb the margin decreases because of regulatory changes will come out of the market. So I do think it's over time could be good developments in that region for us. Speaker 400:22:16Okay. And then just lastly on when we look to 2025, can you give us sort of a range in terms of what you expect to spend on PP and E and Intangible? Because I saw that free cash flow is a bit negative. You're spending a fair bit on those two items. I was just wondering if that's going to come off at all? Speaker 300:22:41I expect it to stay relatively consistent. So, we should be scaling it in the sense that our revenue will be increasing in double digits. But I don't expect that our deferred costs to move in the same direction. One thing that will hit us in 2025 is the certification costs for content that we're rolling out. So as previously mentioned, we're doubling the cadence of title releases that we do in an annual period. Speaker 300:23:14So that does bring one time certification costs that do get capitalized and amortized over an estimated life of the content. But again, we won't we do expect to see leverage from what we're spending by increasing our top line. Speaker 400:23:33Okay. All right. Thanks. Operator00:23:37Our next question comes from the line of Jim Luca Tucci with Haywood. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:23:43Hey, good morning. I guess Speaker 500:23:45I can start off on Speaker 600:23:47the gross margin. Seems like it was a record gross margin quarter at 58. And it sounds like you expect continued expansion on the margin side given the revenue shift to proprietary content. Speaker 500:24:02I'm just wondering if you Speaker 600:24:04have any short term or longer term targets on the gross margin side? Speaker 300:24:11Good question. Yes, Q4 was an exceptional performance in terms of gross margin percentage. We do always anticipate Q4 to be our strongest quarter and that's indicative of how what we see from our operators and just performance of iCasino and sportsbooks in general. So, I don't think that's an assumed run rate and based on our guidance our gross profit margin will be less than what we achieved in Q4. But I do think directionally that's where we're moving towards. Speaker 300:24:49And I think through the year, we should be able to get to a level through into Q4 of twenty twenty five that's not too far off of that. But I don't think at this point that Q4 run rates could be assumed for the full period. But we'll wait and see the performance of our proprietary content specifically this Dragon Power Triple Gold. This is really exciting for us. This is the amount of wagering in just the first ten days has been like 1.4 times what we've seen on any title we've ever released. Speaker 300:25:27So we're quite excited about what where our capabilities have gotten to on proprietary content side. So we'll wait and see. Speaker 600:25:37Okay. Thanks for that, Robbie. Good color. And then just if I could ask on your pipeline, I guess, Matt, are there any bigger opportunities that you're working on at the moment? Just wondering if you could give us an update on the activity in your pipeline? Speaker 500:25:59Yes, sure. We have a very strong pipeline of different opportunities in different regions. Obviously, our focus regions are going to stay the same. We're very focused on getting as many operators onboarding onto our aggregation platform in Brazil. We're focused on getting our content distributed in Brazil and we have all licensed operators on our list and actively working on them. Speaker 500:26:34Then U. S, still working on deals that are going to allow us to distribute more content in the regular U. S. Market and obviously working on both aggregation and proprietary content opportunities in Canada as well, where there are still operators that are not signed up to our hub platform or proprietary content platform. Then we have a very strong pipeline of time and turnkey opportunities on both sides of the ocean in Europe and in Americas. Speaker 500:27:15Obviously, can't talk about details there. And I'd say that we're very excited about further regulation in, in United potential further regulation in United States and potential further regulation in some of the markets in Europe where we're actively discussing some of the opportunities that may show up for us in the next twelve to twenty four months. Speaker 600:27:48Okay. That sounds good. So if anything in your pipeline does come to work to head, I'm assuming that that's all accretive to your guidance that you've issued for 2025? Speaker 300:28:05That's correct. Speaker 200:28:06Okay, great. Speaker 600:28:08Great. Yes. Great. And just one more, Robbie, in terms of guidance, how should we think about seasonality for this year? Is it going to be business as usual or anything to look for this year in terms of seasonality? Speaker 300:28:27No, I'd say business as usual. Again, Q4 has always been one of their strongest, if not strongest quarter. So we do expect that again this year. But other than that, we don't expect much impact beyond just the regular cycles of sports and iCasino play. So, usually the summer months are less strong just that the weather people are not necessarily playing as much and sports cycles are not the same, but nothing unusual this year compared to prior years. Speaker 300:29:03Thanks Robbie. I'll pass the line. Operator00:29:11And our next question will come from the line of Jack Vanderard with Maxim Group. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:29:18Okay, great. Good morning guys. Encouraged to see the strong results and outlook. Thanks for taking my questions. I don't have too many left though. Speaker 700:29:26Maybe a question for Matt and Ravi. Just with regards to that robust pipeline of opportunities that you mentioned that's under development but not baked into the guidance. Just a couple of questions there. Does this include both organic that pipeline, both organic growth upside potential and as well as M and A? And then also is there any potential for new U. Speaker 700:29:48S. States going live in 2025 that could be assumed in that kind of pipeline of developing opportunities? Thanks. Speaker 300:29:57Good questions. So in terms of pipeline, it is strictly just I'd say organic opportunities, so to scale our existing products into new opportunities. And we are very excited of what the opportunities are and what we see on the pipeline and when we speak to it. These aren't just ideas or targets that we have on a chalkboard that we're going to go after. These are processes that we're actively involved in whether it's an RFP or we're in discussions to solidify a deal that we can roll out in the near term. Speaker 300:30:34So, things are really progressing very well. And I think we're at a good position in the sense that the amount of opportunities in the pipeline is well beyond what we could tackle in a twenty four month or twelve month period. So, we in a sense have a luxury of going after the opportunities that are going to move the needle the most for us from a valuation point of view. So, we know that bringing more revenue into our North American story is very key. We also want to look for opportunities in our pipeline that leverages existing investments into our technology. Speaker 300:31:12So, we really have good things happening and hope to be able to have some positive announcements in the near future about moving some of these opportunities along. In terms of U. S. States opening up, it's not necessarily baked into any of our, I'd say pipeline opportunities except though we know that The U. S. Speaker 300:31:40Market right now especially on the Icosino side sits at about 12% of The U. S. Total population is being exposed to icosino regulated play. And we also see on the sweep side of things that there's a massive market of players playing iCasino style games in an unregulated environment. So, we are very focused on getting our company well positioned to capitalize on that additional TAM that's going to open up as The U. Speaker 300:32:12S. States open up. So, it's very much in our strategy to be well positioned with operators and with strong products to be able to capitalize on what we think is going to be like a $77,000,000,000 market once it's at maturity from an iCasino point of view. I'm sorry, Jack, I have one more question. Remind me what that was. Speaker 700:32:36Actually, I think you another one was M and A, but you really hit all those you hit the nail on the head with a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot of great color, I guess, that would be built in the upside. The M and A side though as well, if there's anything that would be I don't know, a new vertical maybe within whether it's charitable gaming or the sweepstakes businesses, is there anything else that you could be thinking from an M and A perspective to enter a new vertical? Speaker 300:33:03I'll never say never, but it's not in our core focus right now. Any opportunity to increase the size and scale and bring more shareholder value we'll look at, but it's not a strategic focus right now. Our focus right now is operating as strongly as we can, improving the metrics that we believe are going to add more value to this company and make us more attractive for investors. Speaker 500:33:30Can I ask just a few more things? Yes. So on the positioning, so we have in the last twelve months been able to position ourselves as a Tier one supplier of patent and key solutions and content delivery platforms. We have onboarded clients that are Tier one in respective jurisdictions. And in short term and midterm, we're going to leverage that and use the incredible amounts of data that we have about game activities and behavior of end users to effectively distribute content and effectively place and promote proprietary content in particular at the same time onboard Tier one clients whether they're migrating from old platforms or new players entering new jurisdictions or existing jurisdictions that are still in development and that's going to be our focus in terms of business development and moving forward. Speaker 500:34:41And like Robbie said, execution is our key focus in the next two or three quarters. Speaker 700:34:52I appreciate the added color there. I think that does it for me. Again, congrats on the strong results and outlook. Thanks guys. Speaker 300:34:59Thank you. Operator00:35:01And that will conclude our question and answer session. I'll hand the call back over to management for any closing comments. Speaker 300:35:12Thank you, everyone. I look forward to speaking with you in the near future and talking about our Q1 results in mid May. Thank you very much. Operator00:35:24This concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by