NYSE:EPAC Enerpac Tool Group Q2 2025 Earnings Report $40.20 +0.07 (+0.17%) Closing price 04/25/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$40.20 -0.01 (-0.01%) As of 04/25/2025 04:43 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Enerpac Tool Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.39Consensus EPS $0.39Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPSN/AEnerpac Tool Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$145.53 millionExpected Revenue$139.80 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$5.73 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AEnerpac Tool Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date3/24/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, March 25, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsEnerpac Tool Group's Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, June 23, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Tuesday, June 24, 2025 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Enerpac Tool Group Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 25, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Enerpac Tool Group's Second Quarter Fiscal twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded 03/25/2025. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Travis Williams, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. Operator00:00:19Williams. Speaker 100:00:21Thank you, operator. Good morning and thank you for joining us for Enerpac Tool Group's second quarter fiscal twenty twenty five earnings call. On the call today to present the company's results are Paul Sternleve, President and Chief Executive Officer and Darren Kozick, Chief Financial Officer. The slides referenced on today's call are available on the Investor Relations section of the company's website, which you can download and follow along. A recording of today's call will also be made available on our website. Speaker 100:00:47Today's call will reference non GAAP measures. You can find a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP measures in the press release issued yesterday. Our comments will also include forward looking statements that are subject to business risks that could cause actual results to be materially different. Those risks include matters noted in our latest SEC filings. With that, I will turn it over to Paul. Speaker 200:01:07Thanks, Travis, and good morning. We were pleased with our performance in the quarter. Organic sales grew 5% year over year. We believe our performance continues to reflect above market growth and strong execution in what remains a very soft industrial sector. EBITDA margins came in at 23.2% for the quarter, down a bit from the prior year due to the impact of mix, but still at top tier levels. Speaker 200:01:37Moreover, we are maintaining our full year fiscal twenty twenty five guidance and are confident our future will reflect Enerpac's global brand leadership, targeted growth strategy, customer driven innovation and continuous improvement through the execution of powering Enerpac performance, or PEP. Let me turn the call over to Darren to provide more detail on the quarter. Speaker 100:02:01Thanks, Paul. As seen on Slide three, Enerpac's revenue increased 5.1% in the second quarter of twenty twenty five on a reported basis. On an organic basis, adjusting for foreign exchange and our recent DTA acquisition, we grew 5%. At our IT and S business, revenue increased 4% organically year over year. Both products and services were ahead this quarter, with growth of 4% in product sales and 3% in services. Speaker 100:02:26The gain in products was driven by strong performance in our heavy lifting technology business. The continued ramp of new products and focused effort by our commercial organization. Cortland Biomedical reported in our other segment posted growth of 33% as anticipated, given comparisons with a year ago period that was impacted by temporary shipment delays related to commercial negotiations. Related to commercial negotiations. Turning to Slide four, which shows our performance by geography, we delivered high single digit growth in The Americas. Speaker 100:02:56This is due to share gains driven by Enerpac Commercial Excellence or ECX a program we introduced a year ago in the region, along with continued execution of our targeted growth strategy and strong growth in our HLT business. With ECX, we are improving overall commercial effectiveness by driving stronger growth in our sales funnel and improving the conversion and win rate. We've expanded the implementation of ECX with the rollout in the EMEA region earlier this year, leveraging the talent and skill set developed in The U. S. In the APAC region, we continue to generate solid performance as it also enjoyed high single digit growth in the second quarter. Speaker 100:03:34Among the highlights, we are seeing industrial construction growth in several countries, notably India and Singapore. While we experienced continued weakness in Australia with cost pressure in the mining sector and the impact of steel and aluminum tariffs on metal producers, we are seeing benefits from continued orders for our second brand, Lars App, as we onboard new distributors in Australia. While we posted a low single digit decline in sales for the EMEA region, breaking a two year pattern of consistent growth, we believe that we continue to outperform in our region beset by significant macro pressures, especially in our largest markets of France and Germany. From a commercial standpoint, the region continues to make progress in the rollout of ECX. Turning to Slide five, gross profit margins of 15.5% decline 110 basis points year over year. Speaker 100:04:28On the product side, we had significantly higher growth in our HLP business, which carries slightly lower gross margins than our standard industrial tools. Additionally, margins were impacted by the mix of service projects in the quarter. As we have previously discussed, service business is complimentary to our product business as we perform work at customer sites and gain strong insights for new product development. Given the recent margin trends in the service business, we have specific initiatives underway to improve the margin profile as we focus on higher quality projects, more differentiated service line offerings and invest in additional field service technicians and equipment to support growth. Adjusted SG and A improved slightly as a percent of revenue to 28.3% versus 28.4% in the year ago period. Speaker 100:05:17We continue to carefully manage costs and are considering additional actions as appropriate to align our cost structure in 2025 and beyond for long term success. Altogether, adjusted EBITDA margins declined 160 basis points in the second quarter due to the aforementioned impact of mix on gross margin and the inclusion of BTA, the acquisition we completed in early September. Effective tax rate returned a more normalized 24.3% compared to 27.3% in the year ago period. Adjusted earnings per share were $0.39 for the quarter compared with $0.36 in the year ago period, an 8% increase. Turning to the balance sheet shown on Slide six, Interpark's position remained extremely strong. Speaker 100:06:03Net debt was $73,000,000 at quarter end, resulting in net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of quite flat. Total liquidity, including availability under our revolver, was $518,000,000 During the first half of fiscal twenty twenty five, cash flow from operations was $16,000,000 compared with $7,000,000 in the year ago period. Free cash flow of $5,000,000 up slightly year over year was impacted by one time CapEx associated with the headquarters move. For the full year, we are maintaining our cash flow guidance at $85,000,000 to $95,000,000 as cash generation increases with higher revenue in the second half of the year. In the second quarter, the company repurchased approximately 220,000 shares of common stock totaling 10,200,000 As we continue to generate cash, coupled with our current leverage, we have ample capacity to deploy our capital for a disciplined M and A strategy, as well as internal investments and continued opportunistic share repurchases. Speaker 100:06:59With that, let me turn it back to Paul. Speaker 200:07:02Thanks, Darren. Let me start with some color on key end markets. On the power generation front, we've seen a pickup in nuclear business in The U. S, including orders related to maintenance as well as decommissioning. For the refinery and petrochemical industry, our customers and distributors indicate a positive sentiment. Speaker 200:07:23Specifically, some refineries are actually just catching up with the shutdowns that were delayed during COVID. We are also seeing a steady level of new investments and assets coming online. Additionally, we see continued oil and gas investments in The Middle East. In The Americas, we are seeing strong growth in demand from the aerospace industry, and we've expanded our focus globally to target opportunities in the EMEA and APAC regions. On the defense side, we're optimistic about the outlook as European governments look to increase their defense budgets. Speaker 200:07:56For the rail market, we've seen some short term tightening of budgets in The Americas, although we expect that a couple of upcoming rail focused trade shows will generate special projects and orders. In the EMEA region, rail has remained solid, mainly due to activity in Italy and Spain, and we are encouraged by our rail focused new products, some of which have already been approved by Network Rail in The UK and others in the process of approval. General and industrial manufacturing, particularly in The US, remains soft and mining, specifically in Australia, remains under pressure as we share the past few quarters. Regarding the wind market, while there has been some negative sentiment towards the sector in recent months, Enerpac's domestic business has been strong, a trend we expect to continue. As we've said, our product line serves the full lifecycle of wind turbines from manufacturing and installation to operations and maintenance and eventual decommissioning, which has proven to be a real asset. Speaker 200:08:59At the same time, we continue to pursue growth opportunities outside of The U. S. And we remain bullish about the wind sector in Europe and parts of Asia. For the infrastructure vertical, while the benefits of the domestic infrastructure bill are only just starting to materialize, we are seeing very good signs of project activity, including scoping, bidding, and permitting. We are also experiencing good activity in infrastructure outside of The U. Speaker 200:09:28S, particularly in Europe and The Middle East. Additionally, we are encouraged by the German government's recently announced spending package that will include additional infrastructure investments of some €500,000,000,000 We expect that will present a favorable tailwind in the coming years. And speaking of infrastructure investments, as you can see on Slide seven, Enerpac's sync hoist synchronous hoist system is being used to position concrete bridge beams for a new railway bridge over the Bovio River in Central Chile. Enerpac's Synchroix technology was selected for this delicate job as it enabled a bridge contractor to install asymmetric shaped beams over nearby commuter highway and rail track using only a single crane. This is yet another example of how we help our customers make complex, often hazardous jobs possible safely and efficiently. Speaker 200:10:27Let me comment on a couple other ongoing initiatives. Last year, we announced a number of new products, the result of our revamped innovation program. We are pleased to see them ramping well with very positive reception from our customers across the globe. Our team is also looking forward to settling into our expanded innovation lab at Enerpac's new Downtown Milwaukee headquarters, and we expect to announce a number of product line extensions and upgrades in 2025 with even more to come in 2026. Regarding DTA, which we acquired in September 2024, we're progressing well on its integration into our heavy lifting technology or HLT business. Speaker 200:11:11We are actively cross selling DTA technology through the Enerpac commercial team as evidenced by a recent sizable order from a legacy Enerpac customer. We're also leveraging our global sales capabilities to expand DTA's reach beyond its traditional stronghold in Europe. In fact, just last week, DTA exhibited at ProMat, one of the leading trade shows for material handling, logistics and supply chain solutions held in Chicago. At the show, DTA showcased its innovative mobile robotic solutions, strengthening relationships with industry professionals and generating a high level of potential new business opportunities. We believe Enerpac is well positioned to help DTA as we implement more efficient manufacturing processes and tools to increase throughput. Speaker 200:12:00Finally, Enerpac will be exhibiting at the Bauma Trade Show next month. Held in Munich, Germany every three years, Baum is the world's leading fair for construction machinery and equipment. While we will focus on HLT and feature DTA at our booth, we will also exhibit a range of standard industrial tools. And in the past, Enerpac has benefited from orders placed at the show and the opportunity to build relationships with both distributors and end users. As I said at the top of the call, we have maintained our guidance for fiscal twenty twenty five, but we remain cautious in light of the high level of macro uncertainty and the prospect that tariffs could bring higher inflation and lower growth. Speaker 200:12:46What we are certain of is that Enerpac will be relocating to our new Downtown Milwaukee headquarters in a space designed for our specific needs and a building proudly featuring the Enerpac logo as seen on Slide eight. So, next quarter, we will be speaking to you from our new location at the Enerpac Center. With that, we'd be happy to take questions. Operator00:13:11Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from the line of Will Gildea from CJS Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 300:13:30Hi. Can you provide some more color regarding the mix shift toward HLT? And where are you seeing strength from a geographic and end market perspective? And what are your expectations for the back half of the year from a mix and gross margin perspective? Thank you. Speaker 200:13:51Yes, sure. Maybe I'll just start and Darren can add a few comments, especially about the back half. But yes, I mean, we saw good growth as you can see this quarter organically. HLT in particular, had a lot of strength. I would say, particularly in The U. Speaker 200:14:06S, but also, we saw some nice activity in HLT in Europe, in the quarter. And HLT is good margin business, it's just not as strong gross margins as our standard products. And so with that mix shift, along with some of the mix shift in service in the quarter, that was really what impacted gross margins, and and consequently the margins in the quarter. But Darren can talk about the second half in particular. Speaker 100:14:34Yeah. Typically, when you look at our business in the second half, we do north of 50% of our revenue, typically in the 52 range. With that additional revenue, obviously, we get some volume leverage that comes out of that. So we expect to see a higher profitability in the back half of the year. But it's not only volume, we do have our productivity initiatives and PEP ongoing. Speaker 100:14:54So we'll continue to drive that. And should improve profitability in the second half of the year, which is why we're confident about our guidance for the year. Speaker 300:15:04Thank you. Super helpful. And then just one more. How is the DTA integration going relative to your expectations? Any surprises so far either positively or anything more challenging than expected? Speaker 300:15:15Thank you. Speaker 200:15:18Sure. Yeah. No, I'd say, the DTA integration is going well. We continue to be very excited about the strategic fit with Enerpac, particularly with our HLT business. We've been pleased with the progress we're making, pleased with, the customer response we've seen in the order activity. Speaker 200:15:38And we're, I would say we remain bullish about the overall fit with the business as well. So, everything remains on track from that perspective. And as I mentioned on our prepared remarks, we're extremely excited to have DTA represented at our booth, at the upcoming Bauma exhibit, next month in Munich, Germany. Speaker 300:16:02Thank you. Speaker 200:16:04Thank you. Operator00:16:07Your next question comes from the line of Tom Hayes from CL King. Your line is open. Speaker 400:16:13Thanks. Good morning, guys. I appreciate all the color. Speaker 100:16:17Good morning. Speaker 400:16:18Maybe just to Paul on the geographic breakdown, in Q1, the Americas was down mid single digits, now it was up high single digits in second quarter. I think Darren called out the commercial excellence program. I was just wondering maybe provide a little bit more detail on that or in addition to kind of some of your internal initiatives. Was there any maybe end markets that kind of stood out in the second quarter that kind of helped push The Americas forward? Speaker 200:16:48Right. Yeah. Thanks, Tom. Yeah, I mean, we were certainly particularly pleased with the growth in The Americas as well as in Asia Pac. And even in Europe, I think as Darren remarked, I mean, it's, you know, we had really strong number of quarters of solid growth in Europe. Speaker 200:17:07So, I mean, despite the fact we saw a slight decline in the quarter, I think we're still pretty confident that we're outperforming the market and some of the challenges they're seeing in Europe. But I think in particular, the strength in Americas we saw was pretty broad based in terms of end markets and verticals and customers. So that was, that was good news for us. And then, I think, as I mentioned earlier, HLT as well was particularly strong for us in Americas in the quarter. And and finally, to the point that Darren referenced earlier, we do see ECX or Interpack Commercial Excellence really, I think, starting to take hold and we are seeing the benefits of that. Speaker 200:17:44And ECX for us is really around kind of systematizing the process for sales and for managing much more actively our sales funnel. So we have much better visibility into leading indicators as opposed to just orders. Also managing sales people's activity and time and focus on where they're calling on customers. Just kind of basic hygiene, I'll say, around pre call plans and post call visit notes and things like this that, you know, become, extremely useful tools if put in place rigorously. And that's really what we've done is adopted that process and put it in place and really mandated it. Speaker 200:18:27And I think it's it's now starting to become the culture of the business and we're rolling that out as we referenced in the prepared remarks, in the EMEA region as well. So pleased with the progress we're making and I think that's part of why we're seeing the organic growth, performance that that we saw in the quarter. Speaker 400:18:45Okay. Appreciate. That's great. Maybe just lastly, you touched on a little bit in your prepared remarks and I know it tends to change by the hour or by the day or the tweet. Just wondering if you have any thoughts on the talk of the tariffs whether they're coming from Mexico, Canada and kind of how you're positioned, whether from either selling into those regions or buying products from those regions? Speaker 200:19:10Yes. I think as we referenced on last quarter's call, we do think I'd say we're in a relatively favorable position as it comes to potential impact of new tariffs. And obviously, as you mentioned, I mean, it is a bit of a dynamic environment for sure. So we're trying to react and be as responsive as we can to new news, of course. But on a direct basis, we mentioned last quarter, we estimate that both finished products and components imported into The US from China specifically is less than $20,000,000 Imports into The US from Canada and Mexico for us are basically negligible. Speaker 200:19:48So the direct impact I think is, is pretty clear to be able to calculate depending on the changing tariff environment. I think what's more important perhaps though is the indirect impact from our suppliers, which is admittedly a bit harder to measure. You know, that includes really two aspects. One, our domestic U. S. Speaker 200:20:07Suppliers who may themselves source material or components from China or from Canada or Mexico, but also domestic suppliers who maybe haven't increased their capacity, but they're facing higher demand from customers. And in both Speaker 100:20:19of those situations, you know, Speaker 200:20:19we have seen some price from those aspects of kind of indirect impact. And, the good news is that I think we have a fair amount of experience across our team, in terms of adapting to a pretty changing tariff policy. And I think also given the global nature of our business, we have quite a bit of flexibility to secure alternative supply and to be able to ship from different facilities around the world. And finally, you know, in addition, I mean, we certainly will have taken pricing actions as necessary to offset inflation that we can't otherwise mitigate. Speaker 400:20:58I appreciate that. Maybe just lastly, I think it was, you and Darren both mentioned, the expectations for some new product rollouts this year. Is that pace different from the last couple of years? I know you're pretty robust in rolling out products last year. Just wondering any more you know, color you can provide on, on, I don't want to steal your thunder on the new product rollouts, but just kind of the pace of the rollout today? Speaker 400:21:21Yes. Speaker 200:21:23No, I wouldn't say different. You know, I mean, it's a bit episodic on the timing and the kind of complexity of the development efforts, but we have a pretty robust, innovation program. We continue to invest, we believe appropriately in it. I'd say the first half of this fiscal year has been more focused on commercializing the new products that we did launch in fiscal twenty four and we have seen, you know, good customer reception and good commercial ramp from those. And then, you know, I think you can expect to see, more innovation launches in the second half and obviously more into as well the first half of fiscal twenty six. Speaker 200:22:01But we certainly remain committed to bringing innovative products and technology to the market for our customers and we're pretty excited about the pipeline that we've built. Speaker 400:22:11I appreciate it. Looking forward to seeing your new offices, this year. So, best of luck. Appreciate the time. Speaker 200:22:17Or a week. Yes, we'll be there in a week or less. Thanks, Tom. Thanks, Operator00:22:22Tom. Your next question comes from the line of Steve Silver from Argus Research. Your line is open. Speaker 500:22:33Thanks, operator, and good morning, and congratulations in advance on the new headquarter opening next week. Operator00:22:39You guys talked about Thanks, Steve. Speaker 200:22:41Good morning. Speaker 500:22:42Good morning. How are you guys? In the prepared remarks, you touched on ECX and the positive impact that it's having in The Americas. I'm curious as to whether there's any color you could provide on the implementation progress in Europe and maybe where you are in the process as compared to in The Americas? Speaker 200:23:00Sure. So we actually started the rollout and implementation of ECX in Europe, I guess about one or two quarters ago now. And so, I'd say we're pretty pleased with the progress we're making there. We've actually leveraged one of our senior leaders who was deeply involved in the rollout of ECX, in in the Americas region, and that person has now been charged with, you know, leading and directing that program as you roll it out in EMEA as well. So, so I think because of that, you know, we've seen really, you know, faster uptake and obviously we've taken the lessons learned from, you know, the rollout in The Americas as as we apply it into EMEA. Speaker 200:23:43So, so overall, you know, I think, I think we're pleased with the progress we're making and we expect that it'll ultimately over time drive similar levels of impact in the European region. I mean, just, yeah, maybe to recount, you know, what it's about again. I mean, it's it's really about aligning our growth focus with our strategic direction. It's around this consistent commercial commercial approach that's driven by very focused sales activity. I would say particularly end user focused calls from our sales team as opposed to kind of managing the channel, if you will. Speaker 200:24:18We have seen a drive, what I would classify as really a winning positive culture that's driven, in the case of ECX, really by data, by discipline, collaboration. And frankly, it's allowing us in the business to deliver more predictable performance because we can now track from actions to results. And so, you so, there's a lot more detail behind what ECX is in the program and how we've implemented it. But I think those are some of the key benefits that we're seeing come to the floor. Speaker 500:24:46That's helpful. Thanks. And one more, if I may. On previous calls, you've discussed the digital transformation in the business and progress in your e commerce initiatives. Curious as to whether there's any update that you could give on the direct business? Speaker 200:25:00Yes, yes. We're actually absolutely quite pleased with the progress. So if you recall, I mean, we essentially rolled out in our e commerce program direct to end users, just about three years ago now, and that has grown, I would say substantially over that period of time, admittedly off of a small base. And we remain, I would say, quite bullish about our e commerce business. In fact, in in Q2 of this fiscal year, our e commerce business was up 43% year over year and through the first half of fiscal twenty five, e commerce revenue was up 36%. Speaker 200:25:37More recently, we've done a lot of work to roll out e commerce in other parts of the world. So last year in multiple markets in Europe and more recently in Australia. And then just in the last quarter, we actually invested behind and turned on digital advertising in both of those markets, UK and Australia, Speaker 100:25:57which, Speaker 200:25:58we saw drive very significant growth in website traffic, which is a pretty good for us leading indicator of what we expect to see in terms of order inflow, you know, in the months to follow. So overall, I think quite positive and we're pleased with the progress we're making there. Speaker 100:26:18Great. Thank you Speaker 500:26:18so much for all the color. Speaker 100:26:21Thank you. Operator00:26:23Your next question comes from the line of Will Gildea from CJS Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 300:26:31Just a follow-up and thank you for your time today. With two quarters left, how should we think about the cadence of revenue margins and profitability from Q3 to Q4 embedded in your FY 2025 guidance? Speaker 100:26:44Yes. So, you think about our second half, that is incremental revenue and it's heavily weighted towards the second half. So, typically, you see about that 52% of revenue in the second half. So, with that comes the volume leverage and we'll see an increase in our EBITDA margins. Typically, if you look at history, when you look at our guide, we'd expect to see our strongest margins in Q4. Speaker 100:27:05So we will ramp as we go through the second half of the year here. Speaker 300:27:11Very helpful. Thank you. And then just one more. Do you have any incremental updates on the M and A pipeline? And what parts of the portfolio are you most focused on enhancing? Speaker 300:27:19Thank you. Speaker 200:27:23Sure. Yes, I would say we continue to spend I would say we continue to spend a fair amount of time on M and A activity, and we have what I would classify as a pretty good kind of quantity and quality of targets in our funnel, with good active conversations. So, I'd say that's fairly robust. The process that we've developed is also quite robust. So, you know, I continue to be pleased with the activity there. Speaker 200:27:53Obviously, by its nature, it's episodic, so, you know, things will come and go depending on asset availability and timing and the like. I don't know that we've really seen anything in terms of material changes and valuation expectations at this point in the market, but we remain focused on the same sort of targets that we've talked about previously. Certainly, very high quality businesses, you know, strong gross margins with ability to drive accretion of those gross margins over time. Obviously, core strategic fit with Enerpac, not necessarily kind of mirroring exact things that we do today, but more complimentary, products or services to what we offer today where we could sell, you know, a broader basket of goods and services to our existing customer base. And I think DTA would be a real prime example of that, you know, very simply, complimentary to HLT and that we offer now a DTA horizontal movement of heavy loads, whereas before it was only vertical lifting and we have customers where that need applications for both. Speaker 200:28:56So, so I think, you know, the funnel remains robust. We're spending a lot of time there. And, you know, obviously when, if and when we can announce things, certainly we will. But, it's a key part of our overall growth strategy and we're excited about that. And finally, I'd say, you know, of course we continue to have a very healthy balance sheet that, is there to be able to support, you know, anything we need to do fundamentally from a capital allocation perspective, including M and A activity. Speaker 300:29:27Thanks again. Operator00:29:30And that concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to CEO, Paul Sternly, for for closing remarks. Speaker 200:29:39Okay. Well, thanks again for joining us this morning. We'll be presenting at the Wolf Research SMIT Conference in New York in early June, and we hope to see you there. Thank you again, and have a good day. Operator00:29:51This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallEnerpac Tool Group Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Enerpac Tool Group Earnings HeadlinesIs Now The Time To Put Enerpac Tool Group (NYSE:EPAC) On Your Watchlist?April 23, 2025 | finance.yahoo.comEnerpac Tool Group: Still Not Cheap EnoughApril 20, 2025 | seekingalpha.com$2 Trillion Disappears Because of Fed's Secretive New Move$2 trillion has disappeared from the US government's books. 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Email Address About Enerpac Tool GroupEnerpac Tool Group (NYSE:EPAC) manufactures and sells a range of industrial products and solutions in the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany, Australia, Canada, China, Saudi Arabia, Brazil, France, and internationally. It operates through Industrial Tools & Services and Other segments. The Industrial Tools & Services segment designs, manufactures, and distributes branded hydraulic and mechanical tools; and provides services and tool rentals to the infrastructure, industrial maintenance, repair and operations, oil and gas, mining, alternative and renewable energy, civil construction, and other markets. It also offers branded tools and engineered heavy lifting technology solutions, and hydraulic torque wrenches; maintenance and manpower services; high-force hydraulic and mechanical tools, including cylinders, pumps, valves, and specialty tools; and bolt tensioners and other miscellaneous products. This segment markets its branded tools and services primarily under the Enerpac, Hydratight, Larzep, and Simplex brands. The Other segment designs and manufactures synthetic ropes and biomedical textiles. The company was formerly known as Actuant Corporation and changed its name to Enerpac Tool Group Corp. in January 2020. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Enerpac Tool Group's Second Quarter Fiscal twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded 03/25/2025. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Travis Williams, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. Operator00:00:19Williams. Speaker 100:00:21Thank you, operator. Good morning and thank you for joining us for Enerpac Tool Group's second quarter fiscal twenty twenty five earnings call. On the call today to present the company's results are Paul Sternleve, President and Chief Executive Officer and Darren Kozick, Chief Financial Officer. The slides referenced on today's call are available on the Investor Relations section of the company's website, which you can download and follow along. A recording of today's call will also be made available on our website. Speaker 100:00:47Today's call will reference non GAAP measures. You can find a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP measures in the press release issued yesterday. Our comments will also include forward looking statements that are subject to business risks that could cause actual results to be materially different. Those risks include matters noted in our latest SEC filings. With that, I will turn it over to Paul. Speaker 200:01:07Thanks, Travis, and good morning. We were pleased with our performance in the quarter. Organic sales grew 5% year over year. We believe our performance continues to reflect above market growth and strong execution in what remains a very soft industrial sector. EBITDA margins came in at 23.2% for the quarter, down a bit from the prior year due to the impact of mix, but still at top tier levels. Speaker 200:01:37Moreover, we are maintaining our full year fiscal twenty twenty five guidance and are confident our future will reflect Enerpac's global brand leadership, targeted growth strategy, customer driven innovation and continuous improvement through the execution of powering Enerpac performance, or PEP. Let me turn the call over to Darren to provide more detail on the quarter. Speaker 100:02:01Thanks, Paul. As seen on Slide three, Enerpac's revenue increased 5.1% in the second quarter of twenty twenty five on a reported basis. On an organic basis, adjusting for foreign exchange and our recent DTA acquisition, we grew 5%. At our IT and S business, revenue increased 4% organically year over year. Both products and services were ahead this quarter, with growth of 4% in product sales and 3% in services. Speaker 100:02:26The gain in products was driven by strong performance in our heavy lifting technology business. The continued ramp of new products and focused effort by our commercial organization. Cortland Biomedical reported in our other segment posted growth of 33% as anticipated, given comparisons with a year ago period that was impacted by temporary shipment delays related to commercial negotiations. Related to commercial negotiations. Turning to Slide four, which shows our performance by geography, we delivered high single digit growth in The Americas. Speaker 100:02:56This is due to share gains driven by Enerpac Commercial Excellence or ECX a program we introduced a year ago in the region, along with continued execution of our targeted growth strategy and strong growth in our HLT business. With ECX, we are improving overall commercial effectiveness by driving stronger growth in our sales funnel and improving the conversion and win rate. We've expanded the implementation of ECX with the rollout in the EMEA region earlier this year, leveraging the talent and skill set developed in The U. S. In the APAC region, we continue to generate solid performance as it also enjoyed high single digit growth in the second quarter. Speaker 100:03:34Among the highlights, we are seeing industrial construction growth in several countries, notably India and Singapore. While we experienced continued weakness in Australia with cost pressure in the mining sector and the impact of steel and aluminum tariffs on metal producers, we are seeing benefits from continued orders for our second brand, Lars App, as we onboard new distributors in Australia. While we posted a low single digit decline in sales for the EMEA region, breaking a two year pattern of consistent growth, we believe that we continue to outperform in our region beset by significant macro pressures, especially in our largest markets of France and Germany. From a commercial standpoint, the region continues to make progress in the rollout of ECX. Turning to Slide five, gross profit margins of 15.5% decline 110 basis points year over year. Speaker 100:04:28On the product side, we had significantly higher growth in our HLP business, which carries slightly lower gross margins than our standard industrial tools. Additionally, margins were impacted by the mix of service projects in the quarter. As we have previously discussed, service business is complimentary to our product business as we perform work at customer sites and gain strong insights for new product development. Given the recent margin trends in the service business, we have specific initiatives underway to improve the margin profile as we focus on higher quality projects, more differentiated service line offerings and invest in additional field service technicians and equipment to support growth. Adjusted SG and A improved slightly as a percent of revenue to 28.3% versus 28.4% in the year ago period. Speaker 100:05:17We continue to carefully manage costs and are considering additional actions as appropriate to align our cost structure in 2025 and beyond for long term success. Altogether, adjusted EBITDA margins declined 160 basis points in the second quarter due to the aforementioned impact of mix on gross margin and the inclusion of BTA, the acquisition we completed in early September. Effective tax rate returned a more normalized 24.3% compared to 27.3% in the year ago period. Adjusted earnings per share were $0.39 for the quarter compared with $0.36 in the year ago period, an 8% increase. Turning to the balance sheet shown on Slide six, Interpark's position remained extremely strong. Speaker 100:06:03Net debt was $73,000,000 at quarter end, resulting in net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of quite flat. Total liquidity, including availability under our revolver, was $518,000,000 During the first half of fiscal twenty twenty five, cash flow from operations was $16,000,000 compared with $7,000,000 in the year ago period. Free cash flow of $5,000,000 up slightly year over year was impacted by one time CapEx associated with the headquarters move. For the full year, we are maintaining our cash flow guidance at $85,000,000 to $95,000,000 as cash generation increases with higher revenue in the second half of the year. In the second quarter, the company repurchased approximately 220,000 shares of common stock totaling 10,200,000 As we continue to generate cash, coupled with our current leverage, we have ample capacity to deploy our capital for a disciplined M and A strategy, as well as internal investments and continued opportunistic share repurchases. Speaker 100:06:59With that, let me turn it back to Paul. Speaker 200:07:02Thanks, Darren. Let me start with some color on key end markets. On the power generation front, we've seen a pickup in nuclear business in The U. S, including orders related to maintenance as well as decommissioning. For the refinery and petrochemical industry, our customers and distributors indicate a positive sentiment. Speaker 200:07:23Specifically, some refineries are actually just catching up with the shutdowns that were delayed during COVID. We are also seeing a steady level of new investments and assets coming online. Additionally, we see continued oil and gas investments in The Middle East. In The Americas, we are seeing strong growth in demand from the aerospace industry, and we've expanded our focus globally to target opportunities in the EMEA and APAC regions. On the defense side, we're optimistic about the outlook as European governments look to increase their defense budgets. Speaker 200:07:56For the rail market, we've seen some short term tightening of budgets in The Americas, although we expect that a couple of upcoming rail focused trade shows will generate special projects and orders. In the EMEA region, rail has remained solid, mainly due to activity in Italy and Spain, and we are encouraged by our rail focused new products, some of which have already been approved by Network Rail in The UK and others in the process of approval. General and industrial manufacturing, particularly in The US, remains soft and mining, specifically in Australia, remains under pressure as we share the past few quarters. Regarding the wind market, while there has been some negative sentiment towards the sector in recent months, Enerpac's domestic business has been strong, a trend we expect to continue. As we've said, our product line serves the full lifecycle of wind turbines from manufacturing and installation to operations and maintenance and eventual decommissioning, which has proven to be a real asset. Speaker 200:08:59At the same time, we continue to pursue growth opportunities outside of The U. S. And we remain bullish about the wind sector in Europe and parts of Asia. For the infrastructure vertical, while the benefits of the domestic infrastructure bill are only just starting to materialize, we are seeing very good signs of project activity, including scoping, bidding, and permitting. We are also experiencing good activity in infrastructure outside of The U. Speaker 200:09:28S, particularly in Europe and The Middle East. Additionally, we are encouraged by the German government's recently announced spending package that will include additional infrastructure investments of some €500,000,000,000 We expect that will present a favorable tailwind in the coming years. And speaking of infrastructure investments, as you can see on Slide seven, Enerpac's sync hoist synchronous hoist system is being used to position concrete bridge beams for a new railway bridge over the Bovio River in Central Chile. Enerpac's Synchroix technology was selected for this delicate job as it enabled a bridge contractor to install asymmetric shaped beams over nearby commuter highway and rail track using only a single crane. This is yet another example of how we help our customers make complex, often hazardous jobs possible safely and efficiently. Speaker 200:10:27Let me comment on a couple other ongoing initiatives. Last year, we announced a number of new products, the result of our revamped innovation program. We are pleased to see them ramping well with very positive reception from our customers across the globe. Our team is also looking forward to settling into our expanded innovation lab at Enerpac's new Downtown Milwaukee headquarters, and we expect to announce a number of product line extensions and upgrades in 2025 with even more to come in 2026. Regarding DTA, which we acquired in September 2024, we're progressing well on its integration into our heavy lifting technology or HLT business. Speaker 200:11:11We are actively cross selling DTA technology through the Enerpac commercial team as evidenced by a recent sizable order from a legacy Enerpac customer. We're also leveraging our global sales capabilities to expand DTA's reach beyond its traditional stronghold in Europe. In fact, just last week, DTA exhibited at ProMat, one of the leading trade shows for material handling, logistics and supply chain solutions held in Chicago. At the show, DTA showcased its innovative mobile robotic solutions, strengthening relationships with industry professionals and generating a high level of potential new business opportunities. We believe Enerpac is well positioned to help DTA as we implement more efficient manufacturing processes and tools to increase throughput. Speaker 200:12:00Finally, Enerpac will be exhibiting at the Bauma Trade Show next month. Held in Munich, Germany every three years, Baum is the world's leading fair for construction machinery and equipment. While we will focus on HLT and feature DTA at our booth, we will also exhibit a range of standard industrial tools. And in the past, Enerpac has benefited from orders placed at the show and the opportunity to build relationships with both distributors and end users. As I said at the top of the call, we have maintained our guidance for fiscal twenty twenty five, but we remain cautious in light of the high level of macro uncertainty and the prospect that tariffs could bring higher inflation and lower growth. Speaker 200:12:46What we are certain of is that Enerpac will be relocating to our new Downtown Milwaukee headquarters in a space designed for our specific needs and a building proudly featuring the Enerpac logo as seen on Slide eight. So, next quarter, we will be speaking to you from our new location at the Enerpac Center. With that, we'd be happy to take questions. Operator00:13:11Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from the line of Will Gildea from CJS Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 300:13:30Hi. Can you provide some more color regarding the mix shift toward HLT? And where are you seeing strength from a geographic and end market perspective? And what are your expectations for the back half of the year from a mix and gross margin perspective? Thank you. Speaker 200:13:51Yes, sure. Maybe I'll just start and Darren can add a few comments, especially about the back half. But yes, I mean, we saw good growth as you can see this quarter organically. HLT in particular, had a lot of strength. I would say, particularly in The U. Speaker 200:14:06S, but also, we saw some nice activity in HLT in Europe, in the quarter. And HLT is good margin business, it's just not as strong gross margins as our standard products. And so with that mix shift, along with some of the mix shift in service in the quarter, that was really what impacted gross margins, and and consequently the margins in the quarter. But Darren can talk about the second half in particular. Speaker 100:14:34Yeah. Typically, when you look at our business in the second half, we do north of 50% of our revenue, typically in the 52 range. With that additional revenue, obviously, we get some volume leverage that comes out of that. So we expect to see a higher profitability in the back half of the year. But it's not only volume, we do have our productivity initiatives and PEP ongoing. Speaker 100:14:54So we'll continue to drive that. And should improve profitability in the second half of the year, which is why we're confident about our guidance for the year. Speaker 300:15:04Thank you. Super helpful. And then just one more. How is the DTA integration going relative to your expectations? Any surprises so far either positively or anything more challenging than expected? Speaker 300:15:15Thank you. Speaker 200:15:18Sure. Yeah. No, I'd say, the DTA integration is going well. We continue to be very excited about the strategic fit with Enerpac, particularly with our HLT business. We've been pleased with the progress we're making, pleased with, the customer response we've seen in the order activity. Speaker 200:15:38And we're, I would say we remain bullish about the overall fit with the business as well. So, everything remains on track from that perspective. And as I mentioned on our prepared remarks, we're extremely excited to have DTA represented at our booth, at the upcoming Bauma exhibit, next month in Munich, Germany. Speaker 300:16:02Thank you. Speaker 200:16:04Thank you. Operator00:16:07Your next question comes from the line of Tom Hayes from CL King. Your line is open. Speaker 400:16:13Thanks. Good morning, guys. I appreciate all the color. Speaker 100:16:17Good morning. Speaker 400:16:18Maybe just to Paul on the geographic breakdown, in Q1, the Americas was down mid single digits, now it was up high single digits in second quarter. I think Darren called out the commercial excellence program. I was just wondering maybe provide a little bit more detail on that or in addition to kind of some of your internal initiatives. Was there any maybe end markets that kind of stood out in the second quarter that kind of helped push The Americas forward? Speaker 200:16:48Right. Yeah. Thanks, Tom. Yeah, I mean, we were certainly particularly pleased with the growth in The Americas as well as in Asia Pac. And even in Europe, I think as Darren remarked, I mean, it's, you know, we had really strong number of quarters of solid growth in Europe. Speaker 200:17:07So, I mean, despite the fact we saw a slight decline in the quarter, I think we're still pretty confident that we're outperforming the market and some of the challenges they're seeing in Europe. But I think in particular, the strength in Americas we saw was pretty broad based in terms of end markets and verticals and customers. So that was, that was good news for us. And then, I think, as I mentioned earlier, HLT as well was particularly strong for us in Americas in the quarter. And and finally, to the point that Darren referenced earlier, we do see ECX or Interpack Commercial Excellence really, I think, starting to take hold and we are seeing the benefits of that. Speaker 200:17:44And ECX for us is really around kind of systematizing the process for sales and for managing much more actively our sales funnel. So we have much better visibility into leading indicators as opposed to just orders. Also managing sales people's activity and time and focus on where they're calling on customers. Just kind of basic hygiene, I'll say, around pre call plans and post call visit notes and things like this that, you know, become, extremely useful tools if put in place rigorously. And that's really what we've done is adopted that process and put it in place and really mandated it. Speaker 200:18:27And I think it's it's now starting to become the culture of the business and we're rolling that out as we referenced in the prepared remarks, in the EMEA region as well. So pleased with the progress we're making and I think that's part of why we're seeing the organic growth, performance that that we saw in the quarter. Speaker 400:18:45Okay. Appreciate. That's great. Maybe just lastly, you touched on a little bit in your prepared remarks and I know it tends to change by the hour or by the day or the tweet. Just wondering if you have any thoughts on the talk of the tariffs whether they're coming from Mexico, Canada and kind of how you're positioned, whether from either selling into those regions or buying products from those regions? Speaker 200:19:10Yes. I think as we referenced on last quarter's call, we do think I'd say we're in a relatively favorable position as it comes to potential impact of new tariffs. And obviously, as you mentioned, I mean, it is a bit of a dynamic environment for sure. So we're trying to react and be as responsive as we can to new news, of course. But on a direct basis, we mentioned last quarter, we estimate that both finished products and components imported into The US from China specifically is less than $20,000,000 Imports into The US from Canada and Mexico for us are basically negligible. Speaker 200:19:48So the direct impact I think is, is pretty clear to be able to calculate depending on the changing tariff environment. I think what's more important perhaps though is the indirect impact from our suppliers, which is admittedly a bit harder to measure. You know, that includes really two aspects. One, our domestic U. S. Speaker 200:20:07Suppliers who may themselves source material or components from China or from Canada or Mexico, but also domestic suppliers who maybe haven't increased their capacity, but they're facing higher demand from customers. And in both Speaker 100:20:19of those situations, you know, Speaker 200:20:19we have seen some price from those aspects of kind of indirect impact. And, the good news is that I think we have a fair amount of experience across our team, in terms of adapting to a pretty changing tariff policy. And I think also given the global nature of our business, we have quite a bit of flexibility to secure alternative supply and to be able to ship from different facilities around the world. And finally, you know, in addition, I mean, we certainly will have taken pricing actions as necessary to offset inflation that we can't otherwise mitigate. Speaker 400:20:58I appreciate that. Maybe just lastly, I think it was, you and Darren both mentioned, the expectations for some new product rollouts this year. Is that pace different from the last couple of years? I know you're pretty robust in rolling out products last year. Just wondering any more you know, color you can provide on, on, I don't want to steal your thunder on the new product rollouts, but just kind of the pace of the rollout today? Speaker 400:21:21Yes. Speaker 200:21:23No, I wouldn't say different. You know, I mean, it's a bit episodic on the timing and the kind of complexity of the development efforts, but we have a pretty robust, innovation program. We continue to invest, we believe appropriately in it. I'd say the first half of this fiscal year has been more focused on commercializing the new products that we did launch in fiscal twenty four and we have seen, you know, good customer reception and good commercial ramp from those. And then, you know, I think you can expect to see, more innovation launches in the second half and obviously more into as well the first half of fiscal twenty six. Speaker 200:22:01But we certainly remain committed to bringing innovative products and technology to the market for our customers and we're pretty excited about the pipeline that we've built. Speaker 400:22:11I appreciate it. Looking forward to seeing your new offices, this year. So, best of luck. Appreciate the time. Speaker 200:22:17Or a week. Yes, we'll be there in a week or less. Thanks, Tom. Thanks, Operator00:22:22Tom. Your next question comes from the line of Steve Silver from Argus Research. Your line is open. Speaker 500:22:33Thanks, operator, and good morning, and congratulations in advance on the new headquarter opening next week. Operator00:22:39You guys talked about Thanks, Steve. Speaker 200:22:41Good morning. Speaker 500:22:42Good morning. How are you guys? In the prepared remarks, you touched on ECX and the positive impact that it's having in The Americas. I'm curious as to whether there's any color you could provide on the implementation progress in Europe and maybe where you are in the process as compared to in The Americas? Speaker 200:23:00Sure. So we actually started the rollout and implementation of ECX in Europe, I guess about one or two quarters ago now. And so, I'd say we're pretty pleased with the progress we're making there. We've actually leveraged one of our senior leaders who was deeply involved in the rollout of ECX, in in the Americas region, and that person has now been charged with, you know, leading and directing that program as you roll it out in EMEA as well. So, so I think because of that, you know, we've seen really, you know, faster uptake and obviously we've taken the lessons learned from, you know, the rollout in The Americas as as we apply it into EMEA. Speaker 200:23:43So, so overall, you know, I think, I think we're pleased with the progress we're making and we expect that it'll ultimately over time drive similar levels of impact in the European region. I mean, just, yeah, maybe to recount, you know, what it's about again. I mean, it's it's really about aligning our growth focus with our strategic direction. It's around this consistent commercial commercial approach that's driven by very focused sales activity. I would say particularly end user focused calls from our sales team as opposed to kind of managing the channel, if you will. Speaker 200:24:18We have seen a drive, what I would classify as really a winning positive culture that's driven, in the case of ECX, really by data, by discipline, collaboration. And frankly, it's allowing us in the business to deliver more predictable performance because we can now track from actions to results. And so, you so, there's a lot more detail behind what ECX is in the program and how we've implemented it. But I think those are some of the key benefits that we're seeing come to the floor. Speaker 500:24:46That's helpful. Thanks. And one more, if I may. On previous calls, you've discussed the digital transformation in the business and progress in your e commerce initiatives. Curious as to whether there's any update that you could give on the direct business? Speaker 200:25:00Yes, yes. We're actually absolutely quite pleased with the progress. So if you recall, I mean, we essentially rolled out in our e commerce program direct to end users, just about three years ago now, and that has grown, I would say substantially over that period of time, admittedly off of a small base. And we remain, I would say, quite bullish about our e commerce business. In fact, in in Q2 of this fiscal year, our e commerce business was up 43% year over year and through the first half of fiscal twenty five, e commerce revenue was up 36%. Speaker 200:25:37More recently, we've done a lot of work to roll out e commerce in other parts of the world. So last year in multiple markets in Europe and more recently in Australia. And then just in the last quarter, we actually invested behind and turned on digital advertising in both of those markets, UK and Australia, Speaker 100:25:57which, Speaker 200:25:58we saw drive very significant growth in website traffic, which is a pretty good for us leading indicator of what we expect to see in terms of order inflow, you know, in the months to follow. So overall, I think quite positive and we're pleased with the progress we're making there. Speaker 100:26:18Great. Thank you Speaker 500:26:18so much for all the color. Speaker 100:26:21Thank you. Operator00:26:23Your next question comes from the line of Will Gildea from CJS Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 300:26:31Just a follow-up and thank you for your time today. With two quarters left, how should we think about the cadence of revenue margins and profitability from Q3 to Q4 embedded in your FY 2025 guidance? Speaker 100:26:44Yes. So, you think about our second half, that is incremental revenue and it's heavily weighted towards the second half. So, typically, you see about that 52% of revenue in the second half. So, with that comes the volume leverage and we'll see an increase in our EBITDA margins. Typically, if you look at history, when you look at our guide, we'd expect to see our strongest margins in Q4. Speaker 100:27:05So we will ramp as we go through the second half of the year here. Speaker 300:27:11Very helpful. Thank you. And then just one more. Do you have any incremental updates on the M and A pipeline? And what parts of the portfolio are you most focused on enhancing? Speaker 300:27:19Thank you. Speaker 200:27:23Sure. Yes, I would say we continue to spend I would say we continue to spend a fair amount of time on M and A activity, and we have what I would classify as a pretty good kind of quantity and quality of targets in our funnel, with good active conversations. So, I'd say that's fairly robust. The process that we've developed is also quite robust. So, you know, I continue to be pleased with the activity there. Speaker 200:27:53Obviously, by its nature, it's episodic, so, you know, things will come and go depending on asset availability and timing and the like. I don't know that we've really seen anything in terms of material changes and valuation expectations at this point in the market, but we remain focused on the same sort of targets that we've talked about previously. Certainly, very high quality businesses, you know, strong gross margins with ability to drive accretion of those gross margins over time. Obviously, core strategic fit with Enerpac, not necessarily kind of mirroring exact things that we do today, but more complimentary, products or services to what we offer today where we could sell, you know, a broader basket of goods and services to our existing customer base. And I think DTA would be a real prime example of that, you know, very simply, complimentary to HLT and that we offer now a DTA horizontal movement of heavy loads, whereas before it was only vertical lifting and we have customers where that need applications for both. Speaker 200:28:56So, so I think, you know, the funnel remains robust. We're spending a lot of time there. And, you know, obviously when, if and when we can announce things, certainly we will. But, it's a key part of our overall growth strategy and we're excited about that. And finally, I'd say, you know, of course we continue to have a very healthy balance sheet that, is there to be able to support, you know, anything we need to do fundamentally from a capital allocation perspective, including M and A activity. Speaker 300:29:27Thanks again. Operator00:29:30And that concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to CEO, Paul Sternly, for for closing remarks. Speaker 200:29:39Okay. Well, thanks again for joining us this morning. We'll be presenting at the Wolf Research SMIT Conference in New York in early June, and we hope to see you there. Thank you again, and have a good day. Operator00:29:51This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by