GeoVax Labs Q4 2024 Earnings Report $1.07 +0.05 (+4.90%) As of 04/14/2025 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast GeoVax Labs EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.30Consensus EPS -$0.79Beat/MissBeat by +$0.49One Year Ago EPSN/AGeoVax Labs Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$3.00 millionExpected Revenue$2.38 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$620.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AGeoVax Labs Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date3/27/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, March 27, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsGeoVax Labs' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 13, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryGOVX ProfilePowered by GeoVax Labs Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 27, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome everyone to the GeoVax Fourth Quarter Full Year twenty twenty four Corporate Update Call. My name is Michelle, and I'll facilitate today's call. With me are David Dodd, Chairman and CEO Mark Reynolds, Chief Financial Officer Mark Newman, PhD, Chief Scientific Officer Kelly McKee, MD, Miles per hour Chief Medical Officer and John Sharkey, PhD, Vice President, Business Development. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Operator00:00:37As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Max Gatica of Precision AQ. Speaker 100:00:46Thank you. Please note the following. Certain statements in this presentation may constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to uncertainty and changes in certain cases. Actual results may differ materially from those included in these statements due to a variety of factors, including leather. Speaker 100:01:12GeoVax can develop and manufacture its product candidates with the desired characteristics in a timely manner and such products are safe for human use. GeoVax's vaccines will effectively prevent targeted infections in humans. GeoVex's product candidates will receive regulatory authority necessary to be licensed and marketed. GeoVex raises required capital to complete development of its products. There is development of competitive products that may be more effective or easier to use than GeoVex products. Speaker 100:01:43GeoVex will be able to enter into favorable manufacturing and distribution agreements and other factors over what is GeoVex. GeoVex assumes no obligation to update these forward looking statements and does not intend to do so. More information about these factors is contained in GeoVax's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including those set forth at Risk Factors and GeoVax's Form 10 K. It is now my pleasure to introduce the Chairman and CEO of GeoVax, David Dodd. Speaker 200:02:16Welcome to fourth quarter full year twenty twenty four GeoVax corporate update call. Following my comments, Mark Reynolds, our CFO, will provide an update of our financials and then we will address any questions you may have. 2024 includes several major events of the development of GeoVax led by the BARDA Project Next Gen award valued at almost $400,000,000 being announced during mid June in support of GEO CM04S1, our next generation COVID-nineteen vaccine. This program is underway with confirmation of all study sites, manufacturing and support of vaccine product is underway and we continue our ongoing billings to BARDA. Relative to GeoMDA, our vaccine candidate against mpox and smallpox, during Q4, we completed cGMP product and quality release of the clinical batch of GeoMVA. Speaker 200:03:10We anticipate having available vaccine for clinical evaluation in the second half of this year. We're pleased to state that we've produced sufficient amount of products to support the anticipated clinical evaluation as well as additional product and support a potential additional clinical use in conjunction with various stakeholder discussions that we have underway. Relative to our plans for a Phase II GIDEFIN trial, the clinical operations plans are underway as we complete the necessary regulatory aspect and product manufacturing in support of the trial. In addition, we are moving forward with our advanced MVA manufacturing process utilizing our AGE1 master cell bank. This process is implemented and we anticipate the ability to produce significantly more MVA based vaccine material much faster, utilizing a flexible process to support local decentralized vaccine manufacturing, while reducing the manufacturing costs significantly. Speaker 200:04:14Our goal is to successfully develop innovative cancer therapies and infectious disease vaccines, addressing critically important unmet medical needs, pursuing initial indications that support expedited registration pathways. We anticipate establishing business partnerships and collaborations in support of worldwide development, commercialization and distribution. Our priorities and anticipated milestones for 2025 remain focused on advancing GEO CMOS4S1, especially relevant to Project NextGen. We remain in close contact with Florida in support of plans to initiate the trial later this year or in early twenty twenty six. There's a clear need to fill the gap reflected in the first generation COVID-nineteen vaccine and we believe that GEO CM centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters four S1 has the potential as well as expanded value to fill this gap relative to the 40 immunocompromised adults in The U. Speaker 200:05:13S. Currently not served well by the authorized vaccines. Our vaccine uses a proven safe and efficient delivery platform, modified vaccinia Ankara or MVA, which does not replicate in mammalian cells. The safety of MVA has been well established and accepted by regulatory authorities worldwide, especially among patients with weakened immune systems as well as among pregnant women. MVA is well characterized, well known and accepted by regulatory authorities worldwide. Speaker 200:05:46They are essentially no outstanding questions pertaining to potential safety issues and uses within various critically important patient populations, which may not be the case for alternative vaccine technologies. Our vaccine platform, MVA, is also a standalone vaccine authorized for protection against mpox and smallpox. This is a unique feature with critically important clinical benefits providing a significant differentiator for CM04S1, especially when considered as a potential COVID-nineteen vaccine in regions where MPoX is endemic. Finally, in addition to its benefits to immunocompromised individuals, we believe that CM04S1 has the potential for broader use that is a heterologous booster to current mRNA vaccines providing a durable and broad immune response against emerging variants. The intriguing possibility is that CM04S1 could by virtue of this immune profile reduce the need for the continuous vaccine reconfiguration that appears necessary with mRNA vaccines. Speaker 200:06:56In fact, the HHS press release announcing the Project Next Gen award in support of CMOS4S1 specifically highlighted that our vaccine holds the potential for a COVID-nineteen vaccine that provides broader protection, meaning encompassing a wider array of variants and the potential for increased durability. In other words, longer lasting than that evidenced by the current authorized vaccines. Most important, we believe is the value to immunocompromised patient population who are currently not served well by the first generation COVID-nineteen vaccine. Thus far, the clinical data from our Phase two studies is supportive of these potential next generation benefits. Beyond the Next Gen trial, three Phase two clinical trials are underway with CM04S1, two of which address populations of immunocompromised patients at high risk for developing severe COVID-nineteen. Speaker 200:07:54The other Phase two trial evaluates our vaccine as a heterologous booster among healthy adults following the prior receipt of an mRNA vaccine. I won't delve further into these specific trials at this time, but we welcome any questions you may have during our Q and A session. Overall, we hope to demonstrate that our COVID-nineteen vaccine successfully addresses the current unmet needs among the tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions on a global basis of immunocompromised patients while also demonstrating the vaccine as a more robust durable booster vaccine used in conjunction with first generation vaccine. Then 2025, we anticipate multiple presentations of clinical results for CM04S1 at various conferences, including the upcoming World Vaccine Congress, the European Hematology Association, the International Workshop on Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia and the American Association of Immunologists further underscoring the important potential medical value of this unique next generation COVID-nineteen vaccine. These presentations can also serve as important catalyst for strategic partnership discussions. Speaker 200:09:06With the announcement of our Project NEXT GEN award and the progress in our Phase two clinical studies, our activities related to partnering and collaboration with CM04S1 have understandably increased. We believe that CM04S1 represents significant promise as a critically needed and important part of the COVID-nineteen vaccine armamentarium for public health worldwide. Turning now to GeoMVA, our MPOS smallpox vaccine candidate. In August 2024, the WHO declared MPOS as a public health emergency of international concern, highlighting the critical global health threat posed by this highly virulent virus. As a result of the continued spread and contagious nature of the current MPOS variant, WHO has reiterated the Global Health Emergency Declaration in November of twenty twenty four and even more recently on February the twenty seventh of this year. Speaker 200:10:05Such a declaration of a global public health threat three times within six months underscores and emphasizes the significant global health threat posed by NPOG. GeoVax is well positioned actively progressing GeoMDA intended to disrupt the current global monopoly in this important and critical area. Moreover, we believe that our efforts will establish GeoVax as the first U. S. Based supplier of such a vaccine potentially resulting in our initial step to revenue generation. Speaker 200:10:40Increasingly, there appears to be significant government interest in U. S. Based supply chains versus the current overdependence on non U. S. Suppliers. Speaker 200:10:50The strong sentiment in favor of such on shoring initiatives remains a major national legislative focus and interest. We remain in active discussions and briefings with various stakeholders such as the White House, congressional offices, BARDA, WHO, the Africa CDC and others regarding our progress towards having cGMP clinical batch vaccine produced and available for clinical evaluation of potential use. WHO has clearly underscored a critical need for expanded MParks vaccine supply as a priority for WHO and other public health agencies worldwide. Finally, we anticipate providing continued updates related to our advanced MVA manufacturing process targeted to enable GeoVax to efficiently produce and distribute MVA based vaccines in response to real time market needs. Our strategic focus on oncology specifically related to Godeptin remains a major priority for 2025 as well as the future of GeoVax. Speaker 200:11:56We have high expectations for the potential broad utilization of Godefan against various solid tumors, especially in combination with immune checkpoint inhibitors. Last summer, we announced our plans to evaluate Godefan in combination with an immune checkpoint inhibitor among patients with locally recurrent head and neck squamous cell carcinomas following primary therapy and for whom resection with curative intent is planned. Our clinical operations plans for this trial are being finalized along with the regulatory aspects and necessary product manufacturing in support of the Phase two study. We also look forward to the upcoming Gadeptan presentation at the American Association of Cancer Research or AACR. In addition, we're planning various animal validation studies further building a compelling basis of potential value of Adaptin addressing various solid tumors. Speaker 200:12:54We're confident we're on a course that will build significant shareholder and stakeholder value while delivering critically important differentiated products to improve lives worldwide. Now I'd like to turn the presentation over to Mark Reynolds, GFX Chief Financial Officer, for a review of our recent results and financial status. Mark? Speaker 300:13:16Thank you, David. The details of our full year 2024 financial results are summarized in today's press release. I'll start my review with the income statement. Revenues associated with our BARDA contract were approximately $4,000,000 in 2024 versus zero in 2023 as the contract just began in June this past year. This is a cost reimbursement contract, so our revenues directly correlate with billable personnel time and incremental expenses incurred. Speaker 300:13:48The total contract value to Gevacs is $26,000,000 but may increase to as much as $45,000,000 Note that a separate contract of $433,000,000 was awarded to a Lucent to conduct our trial. Those revenues won't be reported in our financial statements, but the funding will go directly to supporting our clinical trial. Research and development expenses were $23,700,000 in 2024 versus $20,700,000 in 2023, representing an increase of roughly $3,000,000 or 14%. The year over year increase is primarily associated with the cost of manufacturing clinical trial materials and other costs associated with the BARDA contract. Spending toward our Godeptin and GEO MVA programs also contributed to the increase. Speaker 300:14:38General and administrative expenses were $5,400,000 in 2024 versus $6,000,000 in 2023, representing a decrease of $600,000 or 11% associated with lower stock based compensation expense, patent costs, franchise tax expense and a mix of other costs. Interest income was $173,000 in 2024 as compared to $776,000 in 2023, primarily reflecting lower interest income due to lower cash balances. We also reported $21,000 of interest expense in 2024 associated with a short term bridge loan that was issued and retired during the year. So overall, net loss for 2024 was approximately $25,000,000 or $4.82 per share versus $26,000,000 in 2023 or $14.29 per share, again with the increase primarily being driven by manufacturing activities and costs associated with the BARDA contract. Turning now to the balance sheet. Speaker 300:15:47Our cash balances at 12/31/2024 were $5,500,000 as compared to $6,500,000 in the prior year, reflective of $24,700,000 used in operating activities, offset by $23,800,000 in financing transactions. Our outstanding common shares currently stand at 13,900,000.0 following recent financing activity. Supporting the BARDA contract, the NextGen award continues to be our top priority in terms of operational focus and a significant use of our internal R and D staff. But it's important to keep in mind that this entire clinical program is fully funded by BARDA through the awards to GeoVax and to Eleusant, our CRO partner. In terms of our funding needs, our current and planned clinical programs for CM4S1, Gedepatin and GEO MVA will be the most significant use of our cash for the foreseeable future. Speaker 300:16:49We continue to explore various strategies to fund these development programs through several valuation reflection points and extend our cash runway. These could include strategic partnerships, additional non dilutive funding and additional offerings of our common stock. I'll be happy to answer any questions during the Q and A period. And I'll now turn the call back to David. Speaker 200:17:11Thank you, Mark. My colleagues and I will now answer your questions. Joining us for the Q and A session are doctors Mark Newman, Kelly McKee and John Sharkey, our Chief Scientific Officer, Chief Medical Officer and Vice President of Business Development, respectively. I'll now turn the call over to the operator for instructions on the question and answer period. Operator00:17:34Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And our first question comes from Jonathan Aschoff with ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open. Speaker 400:18:05Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. I got a few questions. I was wondering, given the urgency of the mPoX threat, could you possibly be part of some sort of relatively near term response by selling product without clinical testing? That testing that you said is now supposed to start around year end twenty twenty five? Speaker 200:18:26Thank you, Jonathan. First of all, I jumped on the phone a little bit early there a minute ago, so I apologize to everyone. The answer is we don't know and usually you cannot, but there is opportunity with the latitude of working with WHO through emergency use licensing and depending on the recognized need. Currently, there is a major need worldwide. In fact, Africa alone has stated repeatedly that they need 20,000,000 to 25,000,000 doses right now. Speaker 200:19:00And it appears that the most they will be able to receive from the current supplier is no more than 5,000,000 by year end of this year. So that just underscores the critical importance of additional supply options. But keep in mind, what we have done is we produced more than enough product to support what we believe will be necessary for our clinical need. And then we have additional to use for additional clinical evaluation, perhaps that could end up being to where we actually were able to deliver some and be able to book revenues, but time will tell on that and we'll know more as we proceed through this year. Speaker 400:19:42Okay. Sort of along that same line, how are you working with international partners, the EU regulatory agencies and low income countries in Africa to maybe ensure in the not too distant future equitable vaccine access manufacturing there? Speaker 200:19:59Thank you. The whole issue of, I would say, equitable vaccine access on a global basis, especially in low income countries, is a major factor on our focus and our discussions. We have been in discussions with representatives of Africa CDC and health ministries in Africa with European colleagues, agents, regulatory agencies, etcetera, for over a year now, for a year and a half plus. And we continue to keep them updated. They're aware of where we are with our status, what we believe we may have, we haven't been specific with at this point in time, but we are keeping them very much updated. Speaker 200:20:46This includes the Africa Vaccine Manufacturing Initiative also. So just a new UNICEF, UNICEF has an active RFP for funding and support and we're in close contact with that organization. So we've been spending quite a bit of time over the last two years building these relationships, getting past the point of just getting to know one another and then becoming much more substance in our discussions with them. Speaker 400:21:15Okay. And then lastly, David, what's actually needed to start the next GIDEPTIN trial? Is that still second quarter twenty five to start enrollment or really no guidance right now? Like are you trying to maybe see if somebody else will fund it before starting it with your own funding? No. Speaker 200:21:35Basically what we're looking at is we want to we're continuing to manufacture the product. We've had some issues with the cell line we had started with. And so we've been working on that. We have everything pretty much outlined, not fully outlined, but from the clinical trial operations. I believe we selected our CRO at this stage, but it really is about advancing to have sufficient product supply investigators are identified. Speaker 200:22:05So we've got that, but we're looking now at probably more into, I would say in the mid to latter part of next year that we would be initiating the clinical trial. Speaker 400:22:19Okay. All right. So that's a substantial pushback. All right. Thank you very much, David. Speaker 200:22:26You're welcome. Thank you. Operator00:22:29Thank you. Our next question comes from Robert LeBoer with Noble Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 500:22:37Well, first, congratulations on the progress you've made. And Dave, also congratulations on leading the company through what must have felt like the valley of death these past two or three years. My question has to do with the clinical trials and testing for MVA. The product is going to be tested in humans, but since this is a preventive vaccine protect, you can't test the protection by giving them the actual virus to see if it works. So could you just elaborate a little bit on how you're going to test efficacy and safety? Speaker 200:23:18Yes. I'm going to call on Doctor. John Sharkey because he's also our Executive Lead for GeoMVA, which is the mpox, smallpox vaccine candidate. John? Speaker 600:23:31So the standard, the typical rule has been previously that one does non human primates and you show efficacy of non human primates. With animal testing, there's always a move to move to lower animals, but not as much in using possibly rabbits or ferrets or other things for different disease states. So we are having those discussions with the regulators. And again, they've not confirmed that we will need a trial in animals. But if we were, what animal will we use? Speaker 600:24:11The important thing here is that these are relatively short term studies. So any animal studies we have to do, we could probably run-in parallel with our clinical trial because it's not a safety issue, it's an efficacy issue. So they would run-in parallel. So even if they're required, they have no significant impact on the course of clinical trial. Speaker 500:24:38Okay. And when you run the clinical trial, any estimates at this point as to numbers of patients or endpoints? Speaker 600:24:50Well, the endpoint is going to be an immunological endpoint. And as far as numbers, we have we are in an additional round of clarification with the regulators, specifically on this question on what numbers we think we're going to need, and we're drafting the protocol as we see. We're estimating it's going to probably be in the range of 400 patients, but our subjects, but that has to be we have to reach agreement with the regulators on that. But based on our statistical, we're estimating in the range of 400 or so subjects would be required. Speaker 500:25:33Okay, that's helpful. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:25:38Let me ask also Robert as a follow-up to ask Doctor. Kelly McKee just to comment on the regions in which we will plan to conduct the clinical program in support of GeoMBA. Speaker 700:25:59Sorry, I forgot to unmute myself. Thanks, Robert. Speaker 600:26:07So the our Speaker 700:26:08current thinking is we'll do this study probably primarily in Europe, Central, Eastern Europe, just because it's a low cost area. But we're also going to have at least one trial site in Sub Saharan Africa, sort of, to address the some of the potential questions that might arise around its immune response in African populations. As you know, there's an approved MVA vaccine already, the Bavarian Nordics, JYNNEOS. And our trial will be a non inferiority study comparing immune response of our vaccine to that vaccine, which we anticipate should be non inferior basically. Operator00:27:22Our next question comes from James Malloy with Alliance Global Partners. Your line is open. Speaker 800:27:29Hello. This is Laura Suriel on for Jim Malloy. Thank you for taking the questions. So as mentioned, data readouts are expected later this year for the Phase two COVID-nineteen booster vaccine trial of CMO4S1. So with this, when should we anticipate data readouts for the remaining two Phase two trials in immunocompromised patients as well as any other timelines for these trials here? Speaker 200:27:56Sure. I'll ask Kelly to provide the update on the plans in that Speaker 700:28:00area. Okay. Sure. So the study that we have ongoing in our blood cancer patients that have received cell transplant therapies, We expect some readouts for that to be disclosing some readouts from that, I should say, sometime during the early part early to mid part of twenty twenty six. We're in discussions about modifying the design of our studies in this population. Speaker 700:28:43And so that would sort of influence the timing of readouts on the currently enrolled trial. As for the CLL study, as you may recall, that's an investigator initiated trial being conducted at the City of Hope Medical Center in California. They have, they're in the process of opening up a an additional City of Hope site beyond the main campus in Duarte. And, just as soon as that site opens, we we expect enrollment to, to proceed. And we're hopeful to have that study fully enrolled by the end of this year. Speaker 700:29:27There will be some presentations of the interim data. The study design was assigned in two stage design. And after the first stage, the DSMB met. And you may remember from our last call, the decision was made to proceed with enrolling only the CM04S1 arm and not the mRNA arm. And so there's gonna be some presentations of that data, at international conferences. Speaker 700:30:01And there's a, there's a publication, being being created for that data as well. So there's going to be information coming out about that trial hopefully before the end of the year. Speaker 800:30:19Thank you. That's very helpful. And also with all the uncertainty that's going on in Washington right now, particularly when it comes to pulling back on COVID-nineteen funding, Speaker 200:30:31how Speaker 800:30:32do you think these changes might affect the company moving forward, especially with the BARDA project, Next Gen Shah that's in place? Speaker 200:30:39Sure. It's an excellent question. We've been receiving that question since probably even before the inauguration, as you might imagine. Pardon me. What we know is the following. Speaker 200:30:53We routinely are in touch with BARDA, including scheduled once a week call between our team and their team. It continues to be a very positive call, supportive call. We continue to provide what we're requested to provide in terms of our development side of for the program and all. And so far every indication we've had is business as usual. We're continuing to perform. Speaker 200:31:25There's been no direction to slow up. There's been no direction to change anything other than to move forward with a repeatedly underscored statement that we're to be able to start the clinical trial before year end, so basically in Q4. So we're working at this time, we're working off that assumption and it would be our certainly desire to continue working on that assumption. And meanwhile, our CRO has confirmed all 80 sites that we need. So that part is will be ready to go. Speaker 200:32:01And what we are charged with doing is all the regulatory filings, which we're doing on time and filed some even I think it was yet this week, if not the end of last week to be prepared to be able to initiate the trial schedule while we're working also with the manufacturing of the product. So I can't be any more specific that, but that literally is where we are. The discussions continue. We are aware that there have been a couple of pauses that have been incurred or been directed to occur. But so far, as again as recently as I guess today, our discussions are to continue with everything we're doing. Speaker 800:32:40Got it. Thank you for taking the Speaker 200:32:41questions. And let me just add this one thing. I have no idea. No one knows because there's been no disclosure of why the vaccine were asked to pause. So and so we're focused on what we're doing. Speaker 200:32:55What we do know is that our vaccine was selected to be in this program specifically and this was I mentioned this in my previous comments, but it was underscored by HHS or ASPR's press release that they issued at the time of the announcement is that the specific reasons we were selected is because thus far our clinical data has demonstrated protective immunity in a much broader across a much broader array of the emerging variants than what we've seen with the first generation vaccine, meaning we don't have to continuously reconfigure them. We showed with our original construct from the Wuhan strain through the Omicron XBB1.5 without any revisions necessary, which wasn't true for mRNA. And then secondly, our durability or how long does it last, Our data has been indicating eight to twelve months, which is about twice what we're seeing with the first generation and the desire stated for a next generation COVID-nineteen vaccine was to identify vaccine candidates that had the potential to give more robust response against variants. So we feel at least so far we've checked that off. And then secondly, to improve upon the basically the disappointing durability of three to six months that's been observed in the real world for the mRNA and I guess also the Novavax vaccine. Speaker 200:34:28And so we continue to stay focused because of that and continue to have our discussions and continue to share information with BARDA. So that's our working model. Operator00:34:45Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to David Dodd for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:34:53Thank you. Thank you everyone for participating in today's update reviewing our 2024 achievements, our progress and our outlook for 2025 as well as beyond. Your interest is greatly appreciated and we look forward to our continued ongoing interactions. I always feel that we want to acknowledge and thank the GFX Board of Directors and Advisors, as well as our staff and the many other parties who continue to support us towards achieving success. We remain committed to providing meaningful career development opportunities for highly competitive quality oriented individuals seeking to disrupt the current paradigm of cancer therapies and infectious disease vaccines. Speaker 200:35:39We're most proud and appreciative of our team, including those external partners who contribute and continue to contribute to the progress success underway at GeoVax. For all of us, it is a great pleasure serving our shareholders and being part of this team. We appreciate their ongoing words of encouragement and support. Our overriding goal is to improve lives worldwide by our development commercialization of novel critically needed cancer therapies and infectious disease vaccines. And with that, I want to wish everyone to have a safe and enjoyable day and evening. Speaker 200:36:11Thank you. Operator00:36:14The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallGeoVax Labs Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xRemove Ads Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) GeoVax Labs Earnings HeadlinesGeoVax Labs' (GOVX) Buy Rating Reiterated at D. 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The company is developing GEO-CM04S1, a vaccine candidate that is in Phase 2 clinical trial for the treatment of preventive COVID-19; Gedeptin, a novel patented product/technology for the treatment of solid tumors, and Phase 1/2 clinical trial for the treatment of advanced head and neck squamous cell carcinoma; and GEO-CM02, a pan-coronavirus vaccine. In addition, it is developing GEO-ZM02, a vaccine candidate, which is in preclinical trial for the treatment of GEO-ZM02, a vaccine candidate, which is in preclinical trial for the treatment of Zika; GEO-MM02 treatment for malaria; other infectious disease vaccines for the treatment of fever viruses, such as Ebola, Sudan, and Marburg; GEO-LM01 for the treatment of Lassa fever. It has collaboration and partnership agreements with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases of the National Institutes of Health; U.S. Department of Defense; Emory University; and the Burnet Institute. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome everyone to the GeoVax Fourth Quarter Full Year twenty twenty four Corporate Update Call. My name is Michelle, and I'll facilitate today's call. With me are David Dodd, Chairman and CEO Mark Reynolds, Chief Financial Officer Mark Newman, PhD, Chief Scientific Officer Kelly McKee, MD, Miles per hour Chief Medical Officer and John Sharkey, PhD, Vice President, Business Development. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Operator00:00:37As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Max Gatica of Precision AQ. Speaker 100:00:46Thank you. Please note the following. Certain statements in this presentation may constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to uncertainty and changes in certain cases. Actual results may differ materially from those included in these statements due to a variety of factors, including leather. Speaker 100:01:12GeoVax can develop and manufacture its product candidates with the desired characteristics in a timely manner and such products are safe for human use. GeoVax's vaccines will effectively prevent targeted infections in humans. GeoVex's product candidates will receive regulatory authority necessary to be licensed and marketed. GeoVex raises required capital to complete development of its products. There is development of competitive products that may be more effective or easier to use than GeoVex products. Speaker 100:01:43GeoVex will be able to enter into favorable manufacturing and distribution agreements and other factors over what is GeoVex. GeoVex assumes no obligation to update these forward looking statements and does not intend to do so. More information about these factors is contained in GeoVax's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including those set forth at Risk Factors and GeoVax's Form 10 K. It is now my pleasure to introduce the Chairman and CEO of GeoVax, David Dodd. Speaker 200:02:16Welcome to fourth quarter full year twenty twenty four GeoVax corporate update call. Following my comments, Mark Reynolds, our CFO, will provide an update of our financials and then we will address any questions you may have. 2024 includes several major events of the development of GeoVax led by the BARDA Project Next Gen award valued at almost $400,000,000 being announced during mid June in support of GEO CM04S1, our next generation COVID-nineteen vaccine. This program is underway with confirmation of all study sites, manufacturing and support of vaccine product is underway and we continue our ongoing billings to BARDA. Relative to GeoMDA, our vaccine candidate against mpox and smallpox, during Q4, we completed cGMP product and quality release of the clinical batch of GeoMVA. Speaker 200:03:10We anticipate having available vaccine for clinical evaluation in the second half of this year. We're pleased to state that we've produced sufficient amount of products to support the anticipated clinical evaluation as well as additional product and support a potential additional clinical use in conjunction with various stakeholder discussions that we have underway. Relative to our plans for a Phase II GIDEFIN trial, the clinical operations plans are underway as we complete the necessary regulatory aspect and product manufacturing in support of the trial. In addition, we are moving forward with our advanced MVA manufacturing process utilizing our AGE1 master cell bank. This process is implemented and we anticipate the ability to produce significantly more MVA based vaccine material much faster, utilizing a flexible process to support local decentralized vaccine manufacturing, while reducing the manufacturing costs significantly. Speaker 200:04:14Our goal is to successfully develop innovative cancer therapies and infectious disease vaccines, addressing critically important unmet medical needs, pursuing initial indications that support expedited registration pathways. We anticipate establishing business partnerships and collaborations in support of worldwide development, commercialization and distribution. Our priorities and anticipated milestones for 2025 remain focused on advancing GEO CMOS4S1, especially relevant to Project NextGen. We remain in close contact with Florida in support of plans to initiate the trial later this year or in early twenty twenty six. There's a clear need to fill the gap reflected in the first generation COVID-nineteen vaccine and we believe that GEO CM centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters centimeters four S1 has the potential as well as expanded value to fill this gap relative to the 40 immunocompromised adults in The U. Speaker 200:05:13S. Currently not served well by the authorized vaccines. Our vaccine uses a proven safe and efficient delivery platform, modified vaccinia Ankara or MVA, which does not replicate in mammalian cells. The safety of MVA has been well established and accepted by regulatory authorities worldwide, especially among patients with weakened immune systems as well as among pregnant women. MVA is well characterized, well known and accepted by regulatory authorities worldwide. Speaker 200:05:46They are essentially no outstanding questions pertaining to potential safety issues and uses within various critically important patient populations, which may not be the case for alternative vaccine technologies. Our vaccine platform, MVA, is also a standalone vaccine authorized for protection against mpox and smallpox. This is a unique feature with critically important clinical benefits providing a significant differentiator for CM04S1, especially when considered as a potential COVID-nineteen vaccine in regions where MPoX is endemic. Finally, in addition to its benefits to immunocompromised individuals, we believe that CM04S1 has the potential for broader use that is a heterologous booster to current mRNA vaccines providing a durable and broad immune response against emerging variants. The intriguing possibility is that CM04S1 could by virtue of this immune profile reduce the need for the continuous vaccine reconfiguration that appears necessary with mRNA vaccines. Speaker 200:06:56In fact, the HHS press release announcing the Project Next Gen award in support of CMOS4S1 specifically highlighted that our vaccine holds the potential for a COVID-nineteen vaccine that provides broader protection, meaning encompassing a wider array of variants and the potential for increased durability. In other words, longer lasting than that evidenced by the current authorized vaccines. Most important, we believe is the value to immunocompromised patient population who are currently not served well by the first generation COVID-nineteen vaccine. Thus far, the clinical data from our Phase two studies is supportive of these potential next generation benefits. Beyond the Next Gen trial, three Phase two clinical trials are underway with CM04S1, two of which address populations of immunocompromised patients at high risk for developing severe COVID-nineteen. Speaker 200:07:54The other Phase two trial evaluates our vaccine as a heterologous booster among healthy adults following the prior receipt of an mRNA vaccine. I won't delve further into these specific trials at this time, but we welcome any questions you may have during our Q and A session. Overall, we hope to demonstrate that our COVID-nineteen vaccine successfully addresses the current unmet needs among the tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions on a global basis of immunocompromised patients while also demonstrating the vaccine as a more robust durable booster vaccine used in conjunction with first generation vaccine. Then 2025, we anticipate multiple presentations of clinical results for CM04S1 at various conferences, including the upcoming World Vaccine Congress, the European Hematology Association, the International Workshop on Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia and the American Association of Immunologists further underscoring the important potential medical value of this unique next generation COVID-nineteen vaccine. These presentations can also serve as important catalyst for strategic partnership discussions. Speaker 200:09:06With the announcement of our Project NEXT GEN award and the progress in our Phase two clinical studies, our activities related to partnering and collaboration with CM04S1 have understandably increased. We believe that CM04S1 represents significant promise as a critically needed and important part of the COVID-nineteen vaccine armamentarium for public health worldwide. Turning now to GeoMVA, our MPOS smallpox vaccine candidate. In August 2024, the WHO declared MPOS as a public health emergency of international concern, highlighting the critical global health threat posed by this highly virulent virus. As a result of the continued spread and contagious nature of the current MPOS variant, WHO has reiterated the Global Health Emergency Declaration in November of twenty twenty four and even more recently on February the twenty seventh of this year. Speaker 200:10:05Such a declaration of a global public health threat three times within six months underscores and emphasizes the significant global health threat posed by NPOG. GeoVax is well positioned actively progressing GeoMDA intended to disrupt the current global monopoly in this important and critical area. Moreover, we believe that our efforts will establish GeoVax as the first U. S. Based supplier of such a vaccine potentially resulting in our initial step to revenue generation. Speaker 200:10:40Increasingly, there appears to be significant government interest in U. S. Based supply chains versus the current overdependence on non U. S. Suppliers. Speaker 200:10:50The strong sentiment in favor of such on shoring initiatives remains a major national legislative focus and interest. We remain in active discussions and briefings with various stakeholders such as the White House, congressional offices, BARDA, WHO, the Africa CDC and others regarding our progress towards having cGMP clinical batch vaccine produced and available for clinical evaluation of potential use. WHO has clearly underscored a critical need for expanded MParks vaccine supply as a priority for WHO and other public health agencies worldwide. Finally, we anticipate providing continued updates related to our advanced MVA manufacturing process targeted to enable GeoVax to efficiently produce and distribute MVA based vaccines in response to real time market needs. Our strategic focus on oncology specifically related to Godeptin remains a major priority for 2025 as well as the future of GeoVax. Speaker 200:11:56We have high expectations for the potential broad utilization of Godefan against various solid tumors, especially in combination with immune checkpoint inhibitors. Last summer, we announced our plans to evaluate Godefan in combination with an immune checkpoint inhibitor among patients with locally recurrent head and neck squamous cell carcinomas following primary therapy and for whom resection with curative intent is planned. Our clinical operations plans for this trial are being finalized along with the regulatory aspects and necessary product manufacturing in support of the Phase two study. We also look forward to the upcoming Gadeptan presentation at the American Association of Cancer Research or AACR. In addition, we're planning various animal validation studies further building a compelling basis of potential value of Adaptin addressing various solid tumors. Speaker 200:12:54We're confident we're on a course that will build significant shareholder and stakeholder value while delivering critically important differentiated products to improve lives worldwide. Now I'd like to turn the presentation over to Mark Reynolds, GFX Chief Financial Officer, for a review of our recent results and financial status. Mark? Speaker 300:13:16Thank you, David. The details of our full year 2024 financial results are summarized in today's press release. I'll start my review with the income statement. Revenues associated with our BARDA contract were approximately $4,000,000 in 2024 versus zero in 2023 as the contract just began in June this past year. This is a cost reimbursement contract, so our revenues directly correlate with billable personnel time and incremental expenses incurred. Speaker 300:13:48The total contract value to Gevacs is $26,000,000 but may increase to as much as $45,000,000 Note that a separate contract of $433,000,000 was awarded to a Lucent to conduct our trial. Those revenues won't be reported in our financial statements, but the funding will go directly to supporting our clinical trial. Research and development expenses were $23,700,000 in 2024 versus $20,700,000 in 2023, representing an increase of roughly $3,000,000 or 14%. The year over year increase is primarily associated with the cost of manufacturing clinical trial materials and other costs associated with the BARDA contract. Spending toward our Godeptin and GEO MVA programs also contributed to the increase. Speaker 300:14:38General and administrative expenses were $5,400,000 in 2024 versus $6,000,000 in 2023, representing a decrease of $600,000 or 11% associated with lower stock based compensation expense, patent costs, franchise tax expense and a mix of other costs. Interest income was $173,000 in 2024 as compared to $776,000 in 2023, primarily reflecting lower interest income due to lower cash balances. We also reported $21,000 of interest expense in 2024 associated with a short term bridge loan that was issued and retired during the year. So overall, net loss for 2024 was approximately $25,000,000 or $4.82 per share versus $26,000,000 in 2023 or $14.29 per share, again with the increase primarily being driven by manufacturing activities and costs associated with the BARDA contract. Turning now to the balance sheet. Speaker 300:15:47Our cash balances at 12/31/2024 were $5,500,000 as compared to $6,500,000 in the prior year, reflective of $24,700,000 used in operating activities, offset by $23,800,000 in financing transactions. Our outstanding common shares currently stand at 13,900,000.0 following recent financing activity. Supporting the BARDA contract, the NextGen award continues to be our top priority in terms of operational focus and a significant use of our internal R and D staff. But it's important to keep in mind that this entire clinical program is fully funded by BARDA through the awards to GeoVax and to Eleusant, our CRO partner. In terms of our funding needs, our current and planned clinical programs for CM4S1, Gedepatin and GEO MVA will be the most significant use of our cash for the foreseeable future. Speaker 300:16:49We continue to explore various strategies to fund these development programs through several valuation reflection points and extend our cash runway. These could include strategic partnerships, additional non dilutive funding and additional offerings of our common stock. I'll be happy to answer any questions during the Q and A period. And I'll now turn the call back to David. Speaker 200:17:11Thank you, Mark. My colleagues and I will now answer your questions. Joining us for the Q and A session are doctors Mark Newman, Kelly McKee and John Sharkey, our Chief Scientific Officer, Chief Medical Officer and Vice President of Business Development, respectively. I'll now turn the call over to the operator for instructions on the question and answer period. Operator00:17:34Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And our first question comes from Jonathan Aschoff with ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open. Speaker 400:18:05Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. I got a few questions. I was wondering, given the urgency of the mPoX threat, could you possibly be part of some sort of relatively near term response by selling product without clinical testing? That testing that you said is now supposed to start around year end twenty twenty five? Speaker 200:18:26Thank you, Jonathan. First of all, I jumped on the phone a little bit early there a minute ago, so I apologize to everyone. The answer is we don't know and usually you cannot, but there is opportunity with the latitude of working with WHO through emergency use licensing and depending on the recognized need. Currently, there is a major need worldwide. In fact, Africa alone has stated repeatedly that they need 20,000,000 to 25,000,000 doses right now. Speaker 200:19:00And it appears that the most they will be able to receive from the current supplier is no more than 5,000,000 by year end of this year. So that just underscores the critical importance of additional supply options. But keep in mind, what we have done is we produced more than enough product to support what we believe will be necessary for our clinical need. And then we have additional to use for additional clinical evaluation, perhaps that could end up being to where we actually were able to deliver some and be able to book revenues, but time will tell on that and we'll know more as we proceed through this year. Speaker 400:19:42Okay. Sort of along that same line, how are you working with international partners, the EU regulatory agencies and low income countries in Africa to maybe ensure in the not too distant future equitable vaccine access manufacturing there? Speaker 200:19:59Thank you. The whole issue of, I would say, equitable vaccine access on a global basis, especially in low income countries, is a major factor on our focus and our discussions. We have been in discussions with representatives of Africa CDC and health ministries in Africa with European colleagues, agents, regulatory agencies, etcetera, for over a year now, for a year and a half plus. And we continue to keep them updated. They're aware of where we are with our status, what we believe we may have, we haven't been specific with at this point in time, but we are keeping them very much updated. Speaker 200:20:46This includes the Africa Vaccine Manufacturing Initiative also. So just a new UNICEF, UNICEF has an active RFP for funding and support and we're in close contact with that organization. So we've been spending quite a bit of time over the last two years building these relationships, getting past the point of just getting to know one another and then becoming much more substance in our discussions with them. Speaker 400:21:15Okay. And then lastly, David, what's actually needed to start the next GIDEPTIN trial? Is that still second quarter twenty five to start enrollment or really no guidance right now? Like are you trying to maybe see if somebody else will fund it before starting it with your own funding? No. Speaker 200:21:35Basically what we're looking at is we want to we're continuing to manufacture the product. We've had some issues with the cell line we had started with. And so we've been working on that. We have everything pretty much outlined, not fully outlined, but from the clinical trial operations. I believe we selected our CRO at this stage, but it really is about advancing to have sufficient product supply investigators are identified. Speaker 200:22:05So we've got that, but we're looking now at probably more into, I would say in the mid to latter part of next year that we would be initiating the clinical trial. Speaker 400:22:19Okay. All right. So that's a substantial pushback. All right. Thank you very much, David. Speaker 200:22:26You're welcome. Thank you. Operator00:22:29Thank you. Our next question comes from Robert LeBoer with Noble Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 500:22:37Well, first, congratulations on the progress you've made. And Dave, also congratulations on leading the company through what must have felt like the valley of death these past two or three years. My question has to do with the clinical trials and testing for MVA. The product is going to be tested in humans, but since this is a preventive vaccine protect, you can't test the protection by giving them the actual virus to see if it works. So could you just elaborate a little bit on how you're going to test efficacy and safety? Speaker 200:23:18Yes. I'm going to call on Doctor. John Sharkey because he's also our Executive Lead for GeoMVA, which is the mpox, smallpox vaccine candidate. John? Speaker 600:23:31So the standard, the typical rule has been previously that one does non human primates and you show efficacy of non human primates. With animal testing, there's always a move to move to lower animals, but not as much in using possibly rabbits or ferrets or other things for different disease states. So we are having those discussions with the regulators. And again, they've not confirmed that we will need a trial in animals. But if we were, what animal will we use? Speaker 600:24:11The important thing here is that these are relatively short term studies. So any animal studies we have to do, we could probably run-in parallel with our clinical trial because it's not a safety issue, it's an efficacy issue. So they would run-in parallel. So even if they're required, they have no significant impact on the course of clinical trial. Speaker 500:24:38Okay. And when you run the clinical trial, any estimates at this point as to numbers of patients or endpoints? Speaker 600:24:50Well, the endpoint is going to be an immunological endpoint. And as far as numbers, we have we are in an additional round of clarification with the regulators, specifically on this question on what numbers we think we're going to need, and we're drafting the protocol as we see. We're estimating it's going to probably be in the range of 400 patients, but our subjects, but that has to be we have to reach agreement with the regulators on that. But based on our statistical, we're estimating in the range of 400 or so subjects would be required. Speaker 500:25:33Okay, that's helpful. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:25:38Let me ask also Robert as a follow-up to ask Doctor. Kelly McKee just to comment on the regions in which we will plan to conduct the clinical program in support of GeoMBA. Speaker 700:25:59Sorry, I forgot to unmute myself. Thanks, Robert. Speaker 600:26:07So the our Speaker 700:26:08current thinking is we'll do this study probably primarily in Europe, Central, Eastern Europe, just because it's a low cost area. But we're also going to have at least one trial site in Sub Saharan Africa, sort of, to address the some of the potential questions that might arise around its immune response in African populations. As you know, there's an approved MVA vaccine already, the Bavarian Nordics, JYNNEOS. And our trial will be a non inferiority study comparing immune response of our vaccine to that vaccine, which we anticipate should be non inferior basically. Operator00:27:22Our next question comes from James Malloy with Alliance Global Partners. Your line is open. Speaker 800:27:29Hello. This is Laura Suriel on for Jim Malloy. Thank you for taking the questions. So as mentioned, data readouts are expected later this year for the Phase two COVID-nineteen booster vaccine trial of CMO4S1. So with this, when should we anticipate data readouts for the remaining two Phase two trials in immunocompromised patients as well as any other timelines for these trials here? Speaker 200:27:56Sure. I'll ask Kelly to provide the update on the plans in that Speaker 700:28:00area. Okay. Sure. So the study that we have ongoing in our blood cancer patients that have received cell transplant therapies, We expect some readouts for that to be disclosing some readouts from that, I should say, sometime during the early part early to mid part of twenty twenty six. We're in discussions about modifying the design of our studies in this population. Speaker 700:28:43And so that would sort of influence the timing of readouts on the currently enrolled trial. As for the CLL study, as you may recall, that's an investigator initiated trial being conducted at the City of Hope Medical Center in California. They have, they're in the process of opening up a an additional City of Hope site beyond the main campus in Duarte. And, just as soon as that site opens, we we expect enrollment to, to proceed. And we're hopeful to have that study fully enrolled by the end of this year. Speaker 700:29:27There will be some presentations of the interim data. The study design was assigned in two stage design. And after the first stage, the DSMB met. And you may remember from our last call, the decision was made to proceed with enrolling only the CM04S1 arm and not the mRNA arm. And so there's gonna be some presentations of that data, at international conferences. Speaker 700:30:01And there's a, there's a publication, being being created for that data as well. So there's going to be information coming out about that trial hopefully before the end of the year. Speaker 800:30:19Thank you. That's very helpful. And also with all the uncertainty that's going on in Washington right now, particularly when it comes to pulling back on COVID-nineteen funding, Speaker 200:30:31how Speaker 800:30:32do you think these changes might affect the company moving forward, especially with the BARDA project, Next Gen Shah that's in place? Speaker 200:30:39Sure. It's an excellent question. We've been receiving that question since probably even before the inauguration, as you might imagine. Pardon me. What we know is the following. Speaker 200:30:53We routinely are in touch with BARDA, including scheduled once a week call between our team and their team. It continues to be a very positive call, supportive call. We continue to provide what we're requested to provide in terms of our development side of for the program and all. And so far every indication we've had is business as usual. We're continuing to perform. Speaker 200:31:25There's been no direction to slow up. There's been no direction to change anything other than to move forward with a repeatedly underscored statement that we're to be able to start the clinical trial before year end, so basically in Q4. So we're working at this time, we're working off that assumption and it would be our certainly desire to continue working on that assumption. And meanwhile, our CRO has confirmed all 80 sites that we need. So that part is will be ready to go. Speaker 200:32:01And what we are charged with doing is all the regulatory filings, which we're doing on time and filed some even I think it was yet this week, if not the end of last week to be prepared to be able to initiate the trial schedule while we're working also with the manufacturing of the product. So I can't be any more specific that, but that literally is where we are. The discussions continue. We are aware that there have been a couple of pauses that have been incurred or been directed to occur. But so far, as again as recently as I guess today, our discussions are to continue with everything we're doing. Speaker 800:32:40Got it. Thank you for taking the Speaker 200:32:41questions. And let me just add this one thing. I have no idea. No one knows because there's been no disclosure of why the vaccine were asked to pause. So and so we're focused on what we're doing. Speaker 200:32:55What we do know is that our vaccine was selected to be in this program specifically and this was I mentioned this in my previous comments, but it was underscored by HHS or ASPR's press release that they issued at the time of the announcement is that the specific reasons we were selected is because thus far our clinical data has demonstrated protective immunity in a much broader across a much broader array of the emerging variants than what we've seen with the first generation vaccine, meaning we don't have to continuously reconfigure them. We showed with our original construct from the Wuhan strain through the Omicron XBB1.5 without any revisions necessary, which wasn't true for mRNA. And then secondly, our durability or how long does it last, Our data has been indicating eight to twelve months, which is about twice what we're seeing with the first generation and the desire stated for a next generation COVID-nineteen vaccine was to identify vaccine candidates that had the potential to give more robust response against variants. So we feel at least so far we've checked that off. And then secondly, to improve upon the basically the disappointing durability of three to six months that's been observed in the real world for the mRNA and I guess also the Novavax vaccine. Speaker 200:34:28And so we continue to stay focused because of that and continue to have our discussions and continue to share information with BARDA. So that's our working model. Operator00:34:45Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to David Dodd for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:34:53Thank you. Thank you everyone for participating in today's update reviewing our 2024 achievements, our progress and our outlook for 2025 as well as beyond. Your interest is greatly appreciated and we look forward to our continued ongoing interactions. I always feel that we want to acknowledge and thank the GFX Board of Directors and Advisors, as well as our staff and the many other parties who continue to support us towards achieving success. We remain committed to providing meaningful career development opportunities for highly competitive quality oriented individuals seeking to disrupt the current paradigm of cancer therapies and infectious disease vaccines. Speaker 200:35:39We're most proud and appreciative of our team, including those external partners who contribute and continue to contribute to the progress success underway at GeoVax. For all of us, it is a great pleasure serving our shareholders and being part of this team. We appreciate their ongoing words of encouragement and support. Our overriding goal is to improve lives worldwide by our development commercialization of novel critically needed cancer therapies and infectious disease vaccines. And with that, I want to wish everyone to have a safe and enjoyable day and evening. Speaker 200:36:11Thank you. Operator00:36:14The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by