Stardust Power Q4 2024 Earnings Report $0.51 0.00 (-0.84%) As of 04/8/2025 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Stardust Power EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.21Consensus EPS -$0.07Beat/MissMissed by -$0.14One Year Ago EPSN/AStardust Power Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AStardust Power Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date3/27/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, March 27, 2025Conference Call Time5:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsStardust Power's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 13, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 12:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistorySDST ProfilePowered by Stardust Power Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 27, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you Speaker 100:00:00for standing by, and welcome to the Stardust Power's Fourth Quarter twenty twenty four Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. And now I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Joanna Gonzalez, Director of Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:31Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:32Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone. Before management begins their formal remarks, we would like to remind everyone that some statements we're making today may be considered forward looking statements under securities laws and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. As a result, we caution you that there are a number of factors, many of which are beyond our control, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from those described in the forward looking statements. For more detailed risks, uncertainties and assumptions relating to our forward looking statements, please see the disclosures in our earnings release and public filings made with the SEC. Speaker 200:01:11We disclaim any obligation or undertaking to update forward looking statements to reflect circumstances or events that occur after the date the forward looking statements are made, except as required by law. We refer you to our filings with the SEC for detailed disclosures and descriptions of our business as well as uncertainties and other variable circumstances, including, but not limited to risks and uncertainties identified under the caption Risk Factors in our recent filings. You may get Status Power's SEC filings by visiting the SEC website at www.sec.gov. I would like to remind everyone this call is being recorded and will be made available for replay via a link available in the Investor Relations section of Status Power's website. Now, I will turn the call over to Status Power's CEO, Roshan Pejari. Speaker 200:02:04Roshan? Speaker 300:02:07Thank you, Joanna, and thank you all for joining us today. Welcome to the Stardust Power year end twenty twenty four earnings call. I'd like to briefly discuss the macro environment before providing an update on the quarter and subsequent developments of Stardust Power's lithium refinery. The global lithium market has seen a slight improvement in pricing recently with some experts forecasting a significant surge in prices around 2026 to 2027, aligning closely with the timeline for Stardust Power's refinery Phase one to potentially come online. This pricing trajectory presents a promising opportunity for Stardust Power as the current business model remains viable at today's prices indicating profitability. Speaker 300:02:53Even with fluctuations in pricing, we see the long term outlook for lithium remains strong driven by an increasing demand across multiple sectors. The Energy Independence order signed by President Trump in January plays a pivotal role in shaping the current landscape for critical minerals in The United States, including lithium refining. This executive order underscores the need for increased energy independence and the securing of supply chains for critical minerals within North America. This policy is advantageous for U. S. Speaker 300:03:30Manufacturing, lithium refining and in line with Stardust Power's vision of being a North American source, refined and end customer focused business. By bridging the critical refining gap in the lithium supply chain, Stardust Power stands to benefit from this shift towards domestic sourcing and refining capabilities. The emphasis on energy independence is further amplified by the U. S. Government's prioritization of securing its energy resources, which could bolster local companies like Stardust Power. Speaker 300:04:04The company's differentiators, including its speed to market and innovative approach, position it well to meet the demand for domestically refined lithium while supporting The U. S. Energy security goals. Tariffs are currently a major topic in the North American critical minerals market, particularly between The United States and Canada. With ongoing geopolitical tensions and trade negotiations, the tariff landscape is evolving fast. Speaker 300:04:35These tariffs may have significant implication for supply chain cost and profit margins lithium producers in both countries. However, The U. S. Push for energy independence could also lead to policy that favors domestic production and refinement. As a result, companies like Stardust Power focused on North American production may be well positioned to navigate the complexities of these tariffs and leverage them for competitive advantage. Speaker 300:05:05The company may elect to leverage the foreign trade zone at Port Muskogee to offset future impact from relevant tariffs, if any, and may seek to include our site in Muskogee as part of a free trade zone. Despite President Trump's language on EV targets, which could temporarily impact demand for lithium and other critical minerals used in EV, analysts remain optimistic about the long term outlook for lithium and EV adoption. Global demand for lithium is expected to remain strong, driven by applications beyond just the EV market, primarily energy storage systems or ESS. Military applications, handheld devices and fast track data centers, especially for AI technologies, are all emerging as significant consumers of lithium, accelerating and diversifying demand. The multitude of applications provide a strong and expanding market base for lithium, ensuring continued growth in the industry. Speaker 300:06:11The lithium market is currently experiencing a dynamic period of rapid change, driven by shifting geopolitical policies, technological advancements and evolving supply chain needs. As a result, Stardust Power is maintaining close connections with policymakers and industry leaders in Washington DC to stay ahead and influence regulatory changes and cultivate strategic alliances. This proactive approach not only ensures the company's interests are aligned with national policies, but also helps establish valuable relationships that could open doors for government support or public private partnerships. Currently, the lithium and critical minerals market is entering exciting and complex phase with both challenges and opportunities on the horizon. With its unique position, differentiated business model and focus on speed to market, Stardust Power is well positioned to capitalize on these trends as the industry evolves. Speaker 300:07:19Turning to some recent announcement and updates, we have been busy. On December 17, we announced the purchase of our construction ready 66 acre site in Muskogee, Oklahoma, which includes a right of first refusal on an additional 40 acres. We have secured the necessary stormwater discharge permit and are cleared to begin construction. We are in the process of air permitting. The Oklahoma Department of Environmental Policy has approved our stormwater pollution prevention plan. Speaker 300:07:51We have applied for and received the administrative approval for our air permit, obtained a permit number and await the technical approval for the same, putting us on track for final approvals. Our refinery is designed to be only a minor source of air emissions and is such is aligned with our sustainability goals. We do not anticipate substantial regulatory resistance. Our team marked the start of the New Year with our groundbreaking ceremony on January 22 in Muskogee, marking a major milestone in the company's history. We reached this point in less than one year of being a publicly traded company. Speaker 300:08:33It was a well attended event marking the start of a brilliant future. With key local and state officials, including Lieutenant Governor Matt Pinnell, Mayor Patrick Kale and former Mayor Marlin Coleman in attendance, This ceremony represents the beginning of a project that will not only support America's transition to energy independence, but also create hundreds of well paying jobs and boost Oklahoma's economy. For Stardust Power, this marked the start of initial groundwork in preparation for heavy construction. We have seen tremendous support from the community for our project for which we are extremely grateful, and we look forward to advancing our strategic and operational plan for the year. We were delighted to announce our agreement with Sumitomo Corporation. Speaker 300:09:22The offtake agreement outlines a potential long term supply deal for 20,000 metric tons of lithium carbonate annually with the possibility of increasing that amount to 25,000 metric tons, which represents 80 or up to 100% of our first line of production or a total of 40% or up to 50% of our total projected 50,000 metric tons per annum capacity. The deal spans ten years with an option for Sumitomo to extend to fifteen years. Pricing will be based on market rates published by Fast Markets or another mutually recognized price reporting agency and includes provisions that would allow parties to adjust pricing as necessary to accommodate specific customers. Sumitomo is one of the largest trading houses globally and this agreement struck with Sumitomo creates a strong strategic partnership. They add value in multiple ways and are a great partner for us. Speaker 300:10:24We are proud to be working together. While this agreement was non binding, we are working towards signing a definitive agreement. For the full details, please see our corresponding eight ks filing. We made a preliminary announcement on 10/08/2024 regarding licensing concentration technologies belonging to KMX Technologies. We are happy to say all terms were agreed and the definitive agreement was signed on February 10, which now gives Stardust Power exclusive access to KMX's advanced vacuum membrane distillation or VMD technology across The U. Speaker 300:11:07S, Canada and select international markets for the field of lithium. This technology may help Stardust Power reduce energy consumption, water usage and logistics costs by efficiently concentrating lithium feedstocks, while also enhancing sustainability in our operations. By incorporating VMD, we aim to improve the economic and environmental performance of our lithium production. We are excited to have this technology added to our tech stack as we continue to execute our operational planning. Turning to business updates. Speaker 300:11:47Primera USA continues to progress the FELL Level three study, AKA our definitive feasibility study. We are now eight months into the study and around 98% of the engineering study has been completed. The process design and CapEx draft has been completed and work towards the final report is underway. In December, the Milestone two model review was held and reconciled Milestone one model review comments. Milestone Model three has been completed and the layout is locked for the Fel III effort. Speaker 300:12:23In addition, what if process review and risk workshops were completed, which identified and addressed potential risks to the project. Stardust Power on 11/26/2024 received an executed permit from the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality authorization to discharge under the OPDES Stormwater Construction General Permit OKR10. The OKR10 permit allows owners or operators of construction sites to discharge stormwater runoff, provided they comply with specific requirements to minimize pollution and environmental impact. In addition to permitting activities, the site SWPPP plan, Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan has been finalized and approved. The month of December 2024 included efforts for the Oklahoma Air Permitting. Speaker 300:13:25Third Branch Engineering and Primera Group working with Stardust Power have progressed the application and data to internal review status. Once reviewed, the air permit application will advance to the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality Administrative Review Process. In recent months, Stardust Power has participated in key national, local and state level events such as PDAAP, Port Muskogee Business and Industry Awards, the Oklahoma Business Roundtable, the Environmental Federation of Oklahoma Annual Meeting and Trade Show, and the Federal Reserve Annual Energy and Economy Meeting. Turning to upcoming engineering milestones, we are progressing to the completion of the FELL3 study and into the final FELL report followed by FID efforts. We have been working with our lead financial advisor, MUFG, for the refinery project finance for both debt and equity. Speaker 300:14:29We are working to complete the accompanying reporting materials for institutional investors. We are sharply focused on risk removal through value engineering and taking advantage of the local and state contracting and service providers, along with guidance and action from local and state governments. We are excited to announce three additions to the Stardust Power team. First, Chris Solano joins us as Chief Operating Officer. With over twenty years of experience in executive leadership, particularly in the energy sector, Chris brings a wealth of expertise to our team, having previously served as the President and CEO of IHI E and C International Corporation. Speaker 300:15:18He holds a law degree and is a graduate of the prestigious MIT, which complements his broad experience in the legal, energy and engineering sectors. Chris brings extensive international experience in the oil and gas industry with a strong background in drilling operations management, technology and well site development. In his new role, he will oversee the company's refinery development and the upstream lithium supply initiatives and processing operations, including discussions around sourcing and site development. He is instrumental in advancing operational efficiency and driving the growth of our lithium projects as we continue to scale. Secondly, in the finance team, we are pleased to welcome Nithya Ramesh as an Accounting Manager. Speaker 300:16:10Nithya is a certified public accountant with over eight years of experience in external audits, financial accounting and internal controls, having worked with leading firms like Grant Thornton, Deloitte and AMD. At Stardust Power, Nithya will leverage her extensive background to enhance financial operations and contribute to the company's continued growth and success. Third, we are pleased to welcome Martin Buttonshaw to our Board of Directors. With extensive experience in the metals and mining industry, Martin has held leadership roles at companies like Mackay Precious Metals and Pala Investments. His track record in driving growth, overseeing strategic initiatives and leading transformation in the mining and raw materials supply chain, particularly for electric vehicles and renewable energy sectors, will be valuable as Stardust Power aims to scale and innovate in the lithium market. Speaker 300:17:14During the quarter, we raised a total of $4,100,000 of capital, $3,550,000 in debt and $550,000 in a pipe offering, which were both accompanied by some stock and cash warrants. We were also able to raise $5,750,000 VA public offering with a large institutional holder in January 2025 and an additional $2,900,000 in March 2025 through a warrant inducement with that investor. We have been thoughtful of capital allocation so as to balance shareholder dilution and current cash needs to take us through the FID stage. Uday will cover this in more detail in his remarks shortly. In recent weeks, a select number of Stardust Power insiders sold a limited number of shares to cover the tax liability associated with vested employee stock plan awards. Speaker 300:18:17These shares were sold pursuant to a pre arranged 10b5-one plan. In Q1 twenty twenty five, we made public filings to disclose these sales. These automated sales are designed to avoid conflicts of interest or market timing concerns and were established before recent market changes, so they do not reflect any shift in management outlook or business fundamental. The sales, which are a small amount relative to the total float, were planned to be executed orderly and with minimal impact on liquidity as we remain committed to compliance, good governance and long term shareholder value. Our focus continues to be on executing our strategic initiatives and positioning Stardust Power for future growth. Speaker 300:19:09Management and insiders continue to be significant holders of stock and we will continue to be going forward. Now turning to the share price. We thank all of our shareholders for their continued support and long term belief in Stardust Power. We understand the recent volatility and price depreciation in our stock can be concerning. We believe that this decline is largely due to certain business combination dynamics, the expiry of the lockup for our initial investors, the effect of recent financing and broader market uncertainties, including political factors and weaker sentiment in the larger macro space. Speaker 300:19:53This volatility is in line with trends noted with other business combinations and to be expected as old investors make way for new investors to buy into the stock envisioned going forward. We believe that certain shareholders elected to sell creating substantial selling pressure on our stock. Despite these challenges, I want to reassure you that the fundamentals of Stardust Power remain strong and unchanged. We continue to be laser focused on executing our business plan and we are confident that as we reach key milestones with our project, we will create significant value for our shareholders. The true test of a great company is not how it performs in good times, but how it navigates through uncertainty and adversity. Speaker 300:20:43We have some exciting upcoming catalysts for the company over the next six months. As mentioned, Primera will complete and finalize our FEL3 engineering study, which was started in July and will outline what the refinery will look like, its full spec and cost breakdown. We continue to work with our financial advisors, MUFG and other financing partners to line up project finance, which will culminate at FID and then enable us to move forward and start building up Phase one of our refinery, which had been previously anticipated to take eighteen to twenty four months to build. We will also have more updates and news on securing our upstream supply, which will enable us to reach 50,000 metric tons per annum refining capacity once at full production. As mentioned earlier, we are not sitting still and have been busy. Speaker 300:21:41Our objective is speed to market and to be achieved with an optimized construction schedule, value engineering and a stable supply chain. With that in mind, we are working day in and day out to build an ecosystem that can help us become source secure, technologically robust and ready for the next stage of growth. All of these upcoming catalysts are important for investors as they are potential inflection points to become shareholders and see additional value creation and to be part of the Stardust Power Store. And with that, I now turn to Uday Devasgar, our Chief Financial Officer for his remarks on financials. Uday? Speaker 400:22:29Thank you, Roshan, and good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining our earnings call for the year end twenty twenty four earnings. Before we begin, I want to clarify that we will not be providing forward looking guidance or estimates during this call. Our focus will be on discussing our past performance and the current state of our business. We encourage you to refer to our filings with the SEC for more detailed information. First, a quick update on some developments from the quarter and subsequent events just after quarter end. Speaker 400:22:58We utilized our synthetic ATM facility during Q4 twenty twenty five and raised approximately $300,000 at the market on high volume trading days. This money has been used for cash reserves and to fund operations and engineering expenses. On 12/31/2024, the company entered into binding agreements to sell up to $550,000 in common stock and warrants to investors with proceeds to be used for capital expenditures, working capital and general corporate purposes. Additionally, the company entered into binding term sheets with lenders to borrow $3,550,000 secured by shares from the company's founders, which have been repaid subsequent to the year end, which puts the company in a debt free position as of date. As mentioned earlier by Roshan, subsequent to the year end, we engaged Alliance Global Partners on a reasonable best efforts basis, who raised a total of $5,750,000 in a follow on public offering, with the investment coming from one large institution investor. Speaker 400:23:57The funding represented 4,792,000.000 shares of common stock at an offering price of $1.2 and $4,972,000 cash warrants with an excise price of $1.3 The transaction closed on 01/27/2025, and the amount raised will be used to fund our operations and general operating costs, including short term debt repayment. Most recently, on 03/17/2025, Stardust Power entered into a warrant inducement agreement with an existing institutional investor for the exercise of certain outstanding common stock purchase warrants of up to 4,792,000.000 shares at a reduced exercise price of $0.62 generating gross cash proceeds of approximately $2,900,000 before fees. In return, the investor will receive new unregistered warrants to purchase up to 9,584,000.000 shares at an exercise price of $0.7 per share exercisable upon stockholder approval. The new warrants will expire five years from the approval date. This arrangement allows us to monetize the warrants now for working capital and general corporate purposes. Speaker 400:25:06The transaction is closed and the funds were received 03/18/2025 and are subject to customary closing conditions. In January, we received new equity research coverage by AGP and more recently in March of twenty twenty five by Maxim Investment Bank. This brings our equity research coverage to five analysts for which we are grateful for their work and interest in following the story and distribution to their retail and institutional audience. In December 2024, the company acquired 10,000,000 ordinary shares of Iris Metals Limited, representing over 5% of the equity in the ASX listed company for $1,600,000 This investment positions the company to explore potential strategic partnerships, including a commercial offtake arrangement for intermediary lithium feedstock financing or other investments in Iris Metals and its affiliates. As of 12/31/2024, no formal offtake agreement has been executed and no significant due diligence expenses have been incurred for the year. Speaker 400:26:08Now turning to the financials for the full year 2024. The company is pre revenue currently. As previously reported in our filings, our ability to meet working capital and capital expenditure requirements for the next twelve months is dependent upon our plan to raise additional capital from issuance of equity or receive additional borrowings to fund the company's operating and investing activities over the next year. As of 12/31/2024, we had cash and cash equivalents of $900,000 on hand compared to $1,300,000 as of 12/31/2023. As of the current year end, we had no long term debt. Speaker 400:26:46For the year ended 12/31/2024, I. E, the current fiscal year, the company incurred a net loss of $23,800,000 compared to the period from 03/16/2023, inception date through 12/31/2023, I. E, the prior period, the company incurred a net loss of $3,800,000 Since the company is yet to start commercial production of battery grade lithium, the operating expenses are expected to increase as the company starts to recruit more personnel to perform general operational tasks and set up the facility. We have devoted substantial efforts and financial resources to raising capital and organizing and staffing the company, and as a result have incurred significant operating losses. As of 12/31/2024 and 12/31/2023, we had an accumulated deficit of $52,600,000 and $3,800,000 respectively. Speaker 400:27:39Loss per share was $0.55 for the current year compared to $0.09 for the prior period, driven primarily by higher general and administrative costs due to personnel related costs and finance charges for short term loans. Net cash used in operating activities totaled $9,700,000 for the current fiscal year compared to $3,000,000 for the prior period, driven by continued investment in operations, hiring of key talent and certain expenses related to the close of the business combination. Net cash used in investing activities was $4,800,000 for the current fiscal year compared to $300,000 for the prior period driven by purchase of land, engineering our initial capital investments made in the anticipated building of the refinery, strategic investments and promise renewals given to our partners. Net cash provided by financing activities was $14,100,000 for the current fiscal year compared to $4,500,000 for the prior period. The increase was driven primarily by $11,600,000 in cash received from subscription agreements entered around the time of closing of the business combination, short term loans and exercise of our warrants. Speaker 400:28:50We use the funds to meet our working capital needs and pay for some of the transaction costs related to the business combination. Our business is moving forward with significant speed and momentum, which our recent announcements demonstrate. We are confident as we continue to bring our facility closer and closer to commissioning that we will add shareholder value. The best path forward is to continue to execute our business plan. And that concludes my remarks. Speaker 400:29:12And I turn it back to Rashaan. Speaker 300:29:14Thanks, Uday. With that, we are now happy to take your questions. Operator? Speaker 100:29:30And our first question comes from the line of Nick Giles from B. Riley Securities. Your question please. Speaker 500:29:39And good afternoon everyone. This is Henry Hurrell asking questions on behalf of Nick Giles. I wanted to start by asking about the lithium markets in general. And so we're obviously in a challenging market environment for lithium pricing. So in your view, what are the necessary factors needed to see recovering in pricing? Speaker 500:29:55And then what are also your expectations for supply and demand dynamics in 2025 and 2026? And then also in 2027, when you expect to start commercial production? Speaker 100:30:13And Roshan has rejoined. We have Nick Giles, B. Riley Securities in the queue. Nick, could you repeat your question? Speaker 500:30:24Sure. Can you hear me? Speaker 300:30:27Yes. Speaker 500:30:29All right. Thank you, operator. This is Henry Hurrell on behalf of Nick Giles today. So I wanted to start by asking about the lithium markets in general. So obviously, we're in a challenging market environment for lithium pricing currently. Speaker 500:30:42So in your view, what are the necessary factors needed to see a recovery in pricing? And then what are your expectations for supply and demand dynamics in 2025 and 2026? And then also in 2027, when you expect to start commercial production? Thank you. Speaker 300:30:57Hi, Henry. Thanks so much for your question and your patience. Well, I had a little bit of technical difficulty and thanks for the question. So there has been a lot of speculation on the current lithium price market. Some would say that there is oversupply in the market as China ramped up production, but that is a hard position to fully understand as there is limited information from the Chinese market on production. Speaker 300:31:24Others might argue that there is some sort of price manipulation on the market as China seeks to fend off future competitions by keeping supply prices low during this period. But what we can say for sure is that there is consensus about demand for battery grade lithium, especially in 2026 and 2027. And that's when we see prices really start to rebound, although there has been slight improvement in 2025. '20 '20 '5 may continue to be a little bit choppy, but we see substantial demand. And as mentioned, that demand is now being diversified from not only EVs, but into ESS systems for data storage, for example. Speaker 300:32:12So the demand for lithium continues to grow and to diversify. So as mentioned, we see prices really rebounding in 2026 and continuing to improve in 2027 closely aligned with the timeline of our refinery. Speaker 500:32:29Great. Thanks for the color there. And then for my second question, it's mostly around EV markets, which have been recently in the headlines with BYD announcing the launch of its fast charging system. So obviously this new development should increase EV adoption rates, but then what does it mean for The U. S. Speaker 500:32:44EV market and then for domestically produced lithium? Thanks. Speaker 300:32:49Yes, thanks for the question again. So the EV adoption rate is in the conversation quite a lot, but month over month, quarter over quarter, year over year, there continues to be more EVs sold and we see this demand only increasing. Further improvements in infrastructure such as, as you mentioned, the charging infrastructure will only help EV demand and continued adoption. So even in 02/1930 to 02/1935, if we see one of new one of every three new cars sold that creates substantial demand, which will most certainly outpace supply. Speaker 500:33:34Got it. Thanks for the commentary and continued best of luck. Thank you, Henry. Speaker 100:33:40Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jake Sikalsky from Alliance Global Partners. Your question please. Operator00:33:49Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question. Speaker 300:33:52Hi Jake. Thanks for being here today. Operator00:33:55Sure. So just looking at the KNX licensing agreement, now that that exclusive license is in hand, are there any plans for additional test work there? Or what are the next steps as far as that partnership goes? Speaker 300:34:10Yes. With the KMX Technologies? Yes. Yeah. That's an agreement that we're really excited about to have exclusive concentration technology for the lithium field of use as a hub and spoke Operator00:35:01Okay. That's helpful. And building on that a little bit, can you touch on your sort of medium and long term feedstock procurement strategy and provide any color that you're able to on that front? Speaker 300:35:16Yes, happy to. As disclosed previously, we control over 38,000 acres of premium brine assets in North America, primarily in the Southwest that we see as a potential sources of our supply. Along with that, which we can develop and co develop with strategic partners. Along with that, we have been very aggressive in upstream investments where we have made investments as mentioned into IGX, IGL, Jackpot from Usha Jackpot Lake as part of Usha Resources. So we have been continuing to source feedstock from multiple sources. Speaker 300:35:57We've also been very diligent about securing from near term producers and I look forward to sharing some more information on that as it becomes publicly available. Operator00:36:09Perfect. Okay. That's all for me. Thanks again. Thanks, Jake. Speaker 100:36:13Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Gregg Mesnier from Kingswood Capital Partners. Your question please. Speaker 600:36:21Yes. Thank you. Question for you, Roshan. Regarding your feedstock situation, I'm wondering how the impact of freight costs, which are rising in different ways in different places, how that would impact your operational outlook? Have you modeled any what kind of price increases on freighting the feedstock have you factored in and also the same pricing on logistics and transportation for the output of lithium as well? Speaker 600:37:11Thanks. Speaker 300:37:12Sure. Thanks, Greg, and thanks for joining our call today and a good question. So I think that should be understood the question of logistics should be understood in the current context of global lithium refinery, where up to 85% of lithium feedstocks are sent back to China for refinement and then to the OEMs, if not in China. So in that context, from creating a North American ecosystem for both raw materials and refining, we see the potential significant savings versus other competitors who have to transport their goods to China. Also, as mentioned earlier, the exclusive VMD technology from KMX technology gives us the opportunity to reduce the freight loads by concentrating the lithium brine stock substantially to reduce how much that we have to move. Speaker 300:38:08As part of our FELL3 engineering studies, we did detailed estimate of logistics, freight and transportations and we look forward to sharing more information on that report as it becomes public as well. Speaker 600:38:21Okay, great. Thanks for the color. That's all I have right now. Speaker 300:38:25Thank you, Greg. Speaker 100:38:26Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tate Sullivan from Maxim Group. Your question please. Speaker 400:38:39Thank you. Good evening. Speaker 700:38:41You had some good background on the KNX vacuum membrane distillation technology. Will that be eventually used exclusively lithium brine production as opposed to at your facility in Oklahoma, please? Speaker 300:38:57Sure. Good question. And thanks for being here today, Tate. While our first use for it would be closer to the wellhead from an upstream perspective, concentrating the lithium feedstock, there are opportunities to use it across the flow sheet that we will continue to explore and look. Other lithium companies have used it in their refining process to recycle water and there can be an opportunity for that as well. Speaker 300:39:24But our focus will really be focused on concentration of feedstock. Speaker 700:39:31Okay. And then was the KMX technology, was this part of Primero's engineering study for you? Did you work on Primero looking at potential technology partnerships or is this your own initiative? Speaker 300:39:46Primero did look at a lot of potential technology partnerships. Our relationship with KMX predates our engagement with Primero. So we have been tracking this technology for a long time now. In 2024, we signed an MOU with KMX technology, giving us the opportunity to perform extensive due diligence and really understand their technology. So our agreement was a culmination of years of work and I believe Primero also took a look at them from a due diligence perspective. Speaker 300:40:23So we are very happy with the way the agreement turned out and the way the technology performs. Speaker 700:40:31And then another question about your land footprint in Oklahoma. Are you I know you have options to purchase additional acres. Is your current footprint where you've spent already on the land enough for the first phase of development or do you need to buy exercise the options to buy more land this year? Yes. Speaker 300:40:54We believe and as we believe will be concurred by our FELL3 engineering study that the first sixty six acres is enough for Phase one, Phase two and beyond if we so choose. It's an excellent piece of lift that can fit our existing business plan. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you Speaker 100:00:00for standing by, and welcome to the Stardust Power's Fourth Quarter twenty twenty four Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. And now I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Joanna Gonzalez, Director of Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:31Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:32Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone. Before management begins their formal remarks, we would like to remind everyone that some statements we're making today may be considered forward looking statements under securities laws and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. As a result, we caution you that there are a number of factors, many of which are beyond our control, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from those described in the forward looking statements. For more detailed risks, uncertainties and assumptions relating to our forward looking statements, please see the disclosures in our earnings release and public filings made with the SEC. Speaker 200:01:11We disclaim any obligation or undertaking to update forward looking statements to reflect circumstances or events that occur after the date the forward looking statements are made, except as required by law. We refer you to our filings with the SEC for detailed disclosures and descriptions of our business as well as uncertainties and other variable circumstances, including, but not limited to risks and uncertainties identified under the caption Risk Factors in our recent filings. You may get Status Power's SEC filings by visiting the SEC website at www.sec.gov. I would like to remind everyone this call is being recorded and will be made available for replay via a link available in the Investor Relations section of Status Power's website. Now, I will turn the call over to Status Power's CEO, Roshan Pejari. Speaker 200:02:04Roshan? Speaker 300:02:07Thank you, Joanna, and thank you all for joining us today. Welcome to the Stardust Power year end twenty twenty four earnings call. I'd like to briefly discuss the macro environment before providing an update on the quarter and subsequent developments of Stardust Power's lithium refinery. The global lithium market has seen a slight improvement in pricing recently with some experts forecasting a significant surge in prices around 2026 to 2027, aligning closely with the timeline for Stardust Power's refinery Phase one to potentially come online. This pricing trajectory presents a promising opportunity for Stardust Power as the current business model remains viable at today's prices indicating profitability. Speaker 300:02:53Even with fluctuations in pricing, we see the long term outlook for lithium remains strong driven by an increasing demand across multiple sectors. The Energy Independence order signed by President Trump in January plays a pivotal role in shaping the current landscape for critical minerals in The United States, including lithium refining. This executive order underscores the need for increased energy independence and the securing of supply chains for critical minerals within North America. This policy is advantageous for U. S. Speaker 300:03:30Manufacturing, lithium refining and in line with Stardust Power's vision of being a North American source, refined and end customer focused business. By bridging the critical refining gap in the lithium supply chain, Stardust Power stands to benefit from this shift towards domestic sourcing and refining capabilities. The emphasis on energy independence is further amplified by the U. S. Government's prioritization of securing its energy resources, which could bolster local companies like Stardust Power. Speaker 300:04:04The company's differentiators, including its speed to market and innovative approach, position it well to meet the demand for domestically refined lithium while supporting The U. S. Energy security goals. Tariffs are currently a major topic in the North American critical minerals market, particularly between The United States and Canada. With ongoing geopolitical tensions and trade negotiations, the tariff landscape is evolving fast. Speaker 300:04:35These tariffs may have significant implication for supply chain cost and profit margins lithium producers in both countries. However, The U. S. Push for energy independence could also lead to policy that favors domestic production and refinement. As a result, companies like Stardust Power focused on North American production may be well positioned to navigate the complexities of these tariffs and leverage them for competitive advantage. Speaker 300:05:05The company may elect to leverage the foreign trade zone at Port Muskogee to offset future impact from relevant tariffs, if any, and may seek to include our site in Muskogee as part of a free trade zone. Despite President Trump's language on EV targets, which could temporarily impact demand for lithium and other critical minerals used in EV, analysts remain optimistic about the long term outlook for lithium and EV adoption. Global demand for lithium is expected to remain strong, driven by applications beyond just the EV market, primarily energy storage systems or ESS. Military applications, handheld devices and fast track data centers, especially for AI technologies, are all emerging as significant consumers of lithium, accelerating and diversifying demand. The multitude of applications provide a strong and expanding market base for lithium, ensuring continued growth in the industry. Speaker 300:06:11The lithium market is currently experiencing a dynamic period of rapid change, driven by shifting geopolitical policies, technological advancements and evolving supply chain needs. As a result, Stardust Power is maintaining close connections with policymakers and industry leaders in Washington DC to stay ahead and influence regulatory changes and cultivate strategic alliances. This proactive approach not only ensures the company's interests are aligned with national policies, but also helps establish valuable relationships that could open doors for government support or public private partnerships. Currently, the lithium and critical minerals market is entering exciting and complex phase with both challenges and opportunities on the horizon. With its unique position, differentiated business model and focus on speed to market, Stardust Power is well positioned to capitalize on these trends as the industry evolves. Speaker 300:07:19Turning to some recent announcement and updates, we have been busy. On December 17, we announced the purchase of our construction ready 66 acre site in Muskogee, Oklahoma, which includes a right of first refusal on an additional 40 acres. We have secured the necessary stormwater discharge permit and are cleared to begin construction. We are in the process of air permitting. The Oklahoma Department of Environmental Policy has approved our stormwater pollution prevention plan. Speaker 300:07:51We have applied for and received the administrative approval for our air permit, obtained a permit number and await the technical approval for the same, putting us on track for final approvals. Our refinery is designed to be only a minor source of air emissions and is such is aligned with our sustainability goals. We do not anticipate substantial regulatory resistance. Our team marked the start of the New Year with our groundbreaking ceremony on January 22 in Muskogee, marking a major milestone in the company's history. We reached this point in less than one year of being a publicly traded company. Speaker 300:08:33It was a well attended event marking the start of a brilliant future. With key local and state officials, including Lieutenant Governor Matt Pinnell, Mayor Patrick Kale and former Mayor Marlin Coleman in attendance, This ceremony represents the beginning of a project that will not only support America's transition to energy independence, but also create hundreds of well paying jobs and boost Oklahoma's economy. For Stardust Power, this marked the start of initial groundwork in preparation for heavy construction. We have seen tremendous support from the community for our project for which we are extremely grateful, and we look forward to advancing our strategic and operational plan for the year. We were delighted to announce our agreement with Sumitomo Corporation. Speaker 300:09:22The offtake agreement outlines a potential long term supply deal for 20,000 metric tons of lithium carbonate annually with the possibility of increasing that amount to 25,000 metric tons, which represents 80 or up to 100% of our first line of production or a total of 40% or up to 50% of our total projected 50,000 metric tons per annum capacity. The deal spans ten years with an option for Sumitomo to extend to fifteen years. Pricing will be based on market rates published by Fast Markets or another mutually recognized price reporting agency and includes provisions that would allow parties to adjust pricing as necessary to accommodate specific customers. Sumitomo is one of the largest trading houses globally and this agreement struck with Sumitomo creates a strong strategic partnership. They add value in multiple ways and are a great partner for us. Speaker 300:10:24We are proud to be working together. While this agreement was non binding, we are working towards signing a definitive agreement. For the full details, please see our corresponding eight ks filing. We made a preliminary announcement on 10/08/2024 regarding licensing concentration technologies belonging to KMX Technologies. We are happy to say all terms were agreed and the definitive agreement was signed on February 10, which now gives Stardust Power exclusive access to KMX's advanced vacuum membrane distillation or VMD technology across The U. Speaker 300:11:07S, Canada and select international markets for the field of lithium. This technology may help Stardust Power reduce energy consumption, water usage and logistics costs by efficiently concentrating lithium feedstocks, while also enhancing sustainability in our operations. By incorporating VMD, we aim to improve the economic and environmental performance of our lithium production. We are excited to have this technology added to our tech stack as we continue to execute our operational planning. Turning to business updates. Speaker 300:11:47Primera USA continues to progress the FELL Level three study, AKA our definitive feasibility study. We are now eight months into the study and around 98% of the engineering study has been completed. The process design and CapEx draft has been completed and work towards the final report is underway. In December, the Milestone two model review was held and reconciled Milestone one model review comments. Milestone Model three has been completed and the layout is locked for the Fel III effort. Speaker 300:12:23In addition, what if process review and risk workshops were completed, which identified and addressed potential risks to the project. Stardust Power on 11/26/2024 received an executed permit from the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality authorization to discharge under the OPDES Stormwater Construction General Permit OKR10. The OKR10 permit allows owners or operators of construction sites to discharge stormwater runoff, provided they comply with specific requirements to minimize pollution and environmental impact. In addition to permitting activities, the site SWPPP plan, Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan has been finalized and approved. The month of December 2024 included efforts for the Oklahoma Air Permitting. Speaker 300:13:25Third Branch Engineering and Primera Group working with Stardust Power have progressed the application and data to internal review status. Once reviewed, the air permit application will advance to the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality Administrative Review Process. In recent months, Stardust Power has participated in key national, local and state level events such as PDAAP, Port Muskogee Business and Industry Awards, the Oklahoma Business Roundtable, the Environmental Federation of Oklahoma Annual Meeting and Trade Show, and the Federal Reserve Annual Energy and Economy Meeting. Turning to upcoming engineering milestones, we are progressing to the completion of the FELL3 study and into the final FELL report followed by FID efforts. We have been working with our lead financial advisor, MUFG, for the refinery project finance for both debt and equity. Speaker 300:14:29We are working to complete the accompanying reporting materials for institutional investors. We are sharply focused on risk removal through value engineering and taking advantage of the local and state contracting and service providers, along with guidance and action from local and state governments. We are excited to announce three additions to the Stardust Power team. First, Chris Solano joins us as Chief Operating Officer. With over twenty years of experience in executive leadership, particularly in the energy sector, Chris brings a wealth of expertise to our team, having previously served as the President and CEO of IHI E and C International Corporation. Speaker 300:15:18He holds a law degree and is a graduate of the prestigious MIT, which complements his broad experience in the legal, energy and engineering sectors. Chris brings extensive international experience in the oil and gas industry with a strong background in drilling operations management, technology and well site development. In his new role, he will oversee the company's refinery development and the upstream lithium supply initiatives and processing operations, including discussions around sourcing and site development. He is instrumental in advancing operational efficiency and driving the growth of our lithium projects as we continue to scale. Secondly, in the finance team, we are pleased to welcome Nithya Ramesh as an Accounting Manager. Speaker 300:16:10Nithya is a certified public accountant with over eight years of experience in external audits, financial accounting and internal controls, having worked with leading firms like Grant Thornton, Deloitte and AMD. At Stardust Power, Nithya will leverage her extensive background to enhance financial operations and contribute to the company's continued growth and success. Third, we are pleased to welcome Martin Buttonshaw to our Board of Directors. With extensive experience in the metals and mining industry, Martin has held leadership roles at companies like Mackay Precious Metals and Pala Investments. His track record in driving growth, overseeing strategic initiatives and leading transformation in the mining and raw materials supply chain, particularly for electric vehicles and renewable energy sectors, will be valuable as Stardust Power aims to scale and innovate in the lithium market. Speaker 300:17:14During the quarter, we raised a total of $4,100,000 of capital, $3,550,000 in debt and $550,000 in a pipe offering, which were both accompanied by some stock and cash warrants. We were also able to raise $5,750,000 VA public offering with a large institutional holder in January 2025 and an additional $2,900,000 in March 2025 through a warrant inducement with that investor. We have been thoughtful of capital allocation so as to balance shareholder dilution and current cash needs to take us through the FID stage. Uday will cover this in more detail in his remarks shortly. In recent weeks, a select number of Stardust Power insiders sold a limited number of shares to cover the tax liability associated with vested employee stock plan awards. Speaker 300:18:17These shares were sold pursuant to a pre arranged 10b5-one plan. In Q1 twenty twenty five, we made public filings to disclose these sales. These automated sales are designed to avoid conflicts of interest or market timing concerns and were established before recent market changes, so they do not reflect any shift in management outlook or business fundamental. The sales, which are a small amount relative to the total float, were planned to be executed orderly and with minimal impact on liquidity as we remain committed to compliance, good governance and long term shareholder value. Our focus continues to be on executing our strategic initiatives and positioning Stardust Power for future growth. Speaker 300:19:09Management and insiders continue to be significant holders of stock and we will continue to be going forward. Now turning to the share price. We thank all of our shareholders for their continued support and long term belief in Stardust Power. We understand the recent volatility and price depreciation in our stock can be concerning. We believe that this decline is largely due to certain business combination dynamics, the expiry of the lockup for our initial investors, the effect of recent financing and broader market uncertainties, including political factors and weaker sentiment in the larger macro space. Speaker 300:19:53This volatility is in line with trends noted with other business combinations and to be expected as old investors make way for new investors to buy into the stock envisioned going forward. We believe that certain shareholders elected to sell creating substantial selling pressure on our stock. Despite these challenges, I want to reassure you that the fundamentals of Stardust Power remain strong and unchanged. We continue to be laser focused on executing our business plan and we are confident that as we reach key milestones with our project, we will create significant value for our shareholders. The true test of a great company is not how it performs in good times, but how it navigates through uncertainty and adversity. Speaker 300:20:43We have some exciting upcoming catalysts for the company over the next six months. As mentioned, Primera will complete and finalize our FEL3 engineering study, which was started in July and will outline what the refinery will look like, its full spec and cost breakdown. We continue to work with our financial advisors, MUFG and other financing partners to line up project finance, which will culminate at FID and then enable us to move forward and start building up Phase one of our refinery, which had been previously anticipated to take eighteen to twenty four months to build. We will also have more updates and news on securing our upstream supply, which will enable us to reach 50,000 metric tons per annum refining capacity once at full production. As mentioned earlier, we are not sitting still and have been busy. Speaker 300:21:41Our objective is speed to market and to be achieved with an optimized construction schedule, value engineering and a stable supply chain. With that in mind, we are working day in and day out to build an ecosystem that can help us become source secure, technologically robust and ready for the next stage of growth. All of these upcoming catalysts are important for investors as they are potential inflection points to become shareholders and see additional value creation and to be part of the Stardust Power Store. And with that, I now turn to Uday Devasgar, our Chief Financial Officer for his remarks on financials. Uday? Speaker 400:22:29Thank you, Roshan, and good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining our earnings call for the year end twenty twenty four earnings. Before we begin, I want to clarify that we will not be providing forward looking guidance or estimates during this call. Our focus will be on discussing our past performance and the current state of our business. We encourage you to refer to our filings with the SEC for more detailed information. First, a quick update on some developments from the quarter and subsequent events just after quarter end. Speaker 400:22:58We utilized our synthetic ATM facility during Q4 twenty twenty five and raised approximately $300,000 at the market on high volume trading days. This money has been used for cash reserves and to fund operations and engineering expenses. On 12/31/2024, the company entered into binding agreements to sell up to $550,000 in common stock and warrants to investors with proceeds to be used for capital expenditures, working capital and general corporate purposes. Additionally, the company entered into binding term sheets with lenders to borrow $3,550,000 secured by shares from the company's founders, which have been repaid subsequent to the year end, which puts the company in a debt free position as of date. As mentioned earlier by Roshan, subsequent to the year end, we engaged Alliance Global Partners on a reasonable best efforts basis, who raised a total of $5,750,000 in a follow on public offering, with the investment coming from one large institution investor. Speaker 400:23:57The funding represented 4,792,000.000 shares of common stock at an offering price of $1.2 and $4,972,000 cash warrants with an excise price of $1.3 The transaction closed on 01/27/2025, and the amount raised will be used to fund our operations and general operating costs, including short term debt repayment. Most recently, on 03/17/2025, Stardust Power entered into a warrant inducement agreement with an existing institutional investor for the exercise of certain outstanding common stock purchase warrants of up to 4,792,000.000 shares at a reduced exercise price of $0.62 generating gross cash proceeds of approximately $2,900,000 before fees. In return, the investor will receive new unregistered warrants to purchase up to 9,584,000.000 shares at an exercise price of $0.7 per share exercisable upon stockholder approval. The new warrants will expire five years from the approval date. This arrangement allows us to monetize the warrants now for working capital and general corporate purposes. Speaker 400:25:06The transaction is closed and the funds were received 03/18/2025 and are subject to customary closing conditions. In January, we received new equity research coverage by AGP and more recently in March of twenty twenty five by Maxim Investment Bank. This brings our equity research coverage to five analysts for which we are grateful for their work and interest in following the story and distribution to their retail and institutional audience. In December 2024, the company acquired 10,000,000 ordinary shares of Iris Metals Limited, representing over 5% of the equity in the ASX listed company for $1,600,000 This investment positions the company to explore potential strategic partnerships, including a commercial offtake arrangement for intermediary lithium feedstock financing or other investments in Iris Metals and its affiliates. As of 12/31/2024, no formal offtake agreement has been executed and no significant due diligence expenses have been incurred for the year. Speaker 400:26:08Now turning to the financials for the full year 2024. The company is pre revenue currently. As previously reported in our filings, our ability to meet working capital and capital expenditure requirements for the next twelve months is dependent upon our plan to raise additional capital from issuance of equity or receive additional borrowings to fund the company's operating and investing activities over the next year. As of 12/31/2024, we had cash and cash equivalents of $900,000 on hand compared to $1,300,000 as of 12/31/2023. As of the current year end, we had no long term debt. Speaker 400:26:46For the year ended 12/31/2024, I. E, the current fiscal year, the company incurred a net loss of $23,800,000 compared to the period from 03/16/2023, inception date through 12/31/2023, I. E, the prior period, the company incurred a net loss of $3,800,000 Since the company is yet to start commercial production of battery grade lithium, the operating expenses are expected to increase as the company starts to recruit more personnel to perform general operational tasks and set up the facility. We have devoted substantial efforts and financial resources to raising capital and organizing and staffing the company, and as a result have incurred significant operating losses. As of 12/31/2024 and 12/31/2023, we had an accumulated deficit of $52,600,000 and $3,800,000 respectively. Speaker 400:27:39Loss per share was $0.55 for the current year compared to $0.09 for the prior period, driven primarily by higher general and administrative costs due to personnel related costs and finance charges for short term loans. Net cash used in operating activities totaled $9,700,000 for the current fiscal year compared to $3,000,000 for the prior period, driven by continued investment in operations, hiring of key talent and certain expenses related to the close of the business combination. Net cash used in investing activities was $4,800,000 for the current fiscal year compared to $300,000 for the prior period driven by purchase of land, engineering our initial capital investments made in the anticipated building of the refinery, strategic investments and promise renewals given to our partners. Net cash provided by financing activities was $14,100,000 for the current fiscal year compared to $4,500,000 for the prior period. The increase was driven primarily by $11,600,000 in cash received from subscription agreements entered around the time of closing of the business combination, short term loans and exercise of our warrants. Speaker 400:28:50We use the funds to meet our working capital needs and pay for some of the transaction costs related to the business combination. Our business is moving forward with significant speed and momentum, which our recent announcements demonstrate. We are confident as we continue to bring our facility closer and closer to commissioning that we will add shareholder value. The best path forward is to continue to execute our business plan. And that concludes my remarks. Speaker 400:29:12And I turn it back to Rashaan. Speaker 300:29:14Thanks, Uday. With that, we are now happy to take your questions. Operator? Speaker 100:29:30And our first question comes from the line of Nick Giles from B. Riley Securities. Your question please. Speaker 500:29:39And good afternoon everyone. This is Henry Hurrell asking questions on behalf of Nick Giles. I wanted to start by asking about the lithium markets in general. And so we're obviously in a challenging market environment for lithium pricing. So in your view, what are the necessary factors needed to see recovering in pricing? Speaker 500:29:55And then what are also your expectations for supply and demand dynamics in 2025 and 2026? And then also in 2027, when you expect to start commercial production? Speaker 100:30:13And Roshan has rejoined. We have Nick Giles, B. Riley Securities in the queue. Nick, could you repeat your question? Speaker 500:30:24Sure. Can you hear me? Speaker 300:30:27Yes. Speaker 500:30:29All right. Thank you, operator. This is Henry Hurrell on behalf of Nick Giles today. So I wanted to start by asking about the lithium markets in general. So obviously, we're in a challenging market environment for lithium pricing currently. Speaker 500:30:42So in your view, what are the necessary factors needed to see a recovery in pricing? And then what are your expectations for supply and demand dynamics in 2025 and 2026? And then also in 2027, when you expect to start commercial production? Thank you. Speaker 300:30:57Hi, Henry. Thanks so much for your question and your patience. Well, I had a little bit of technical difficulty and thanks for the question. So there has been a lot of speculation on the current lithium price market. Some would say that there is oversupply in the market as China ramped up production, but that is a hard position to fully understand as there is limited information from the Chinese market on production. Speaker 300:31:24Others might argue that there is some sort of price manipulation on the market as China seeks to fend off future competitions by keeping supply prices low during this period. But what we can say for sure is that there is consensus about demand for battery grade lithium, especially in 2026 and 2027. And that's when we see prices really start to rebound, although there has been slight improvement in 2025. '20 '20 '5 may continue to be a little bit choppy, but we see substantial demand. And as mentioned, that demand is now being diversified from not only EVs, but into ESS systems for data storage, for example. Speaker 300:32:12So the demand for lithium continues to grow and to diversify. So as mentioned, we see prices really rebounding in 2026 and continuing to improve in 2027 closely aligned with the timeline of our refinery. Speaker 500:32:29Great. Thanks for the color there. And then for my second question, it's mostly around EV markets, which have been recently in the headlines with BYD announcing the launch of its fast charging system. So obviously this new development should increase EV adoption rates, but then what does it mean for The U. S. Speaker 500:32:44EV market and then for domestically produced lithium? Thanks. Speaker 300:32:49Yes, thanks for the question again. So the EV adoption rate is in the conversation quite a lot, but month over month, quarter over quarter, year over year, there continues to be more EVs sold and we see this demand only increasing. Further improvements in infrastructure such as, as you mentioned, the charging infrastructure will only help EV demand and continued adoption. So even in 02/1930 to 02/1935, if we see one of new one of every three new cars sold that creates substantial demand, which will most certainly outpace supply. Speaker 500:33:34Got it. Thanks for the commentary and continued best of luck. Thank you, Henry. Speaker 100:33:40Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jake Sikalsky from Alliance Global Partners. Your question please. Operator00:33:49Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question. Speaker 300:33:52Hi Jake. Thanks for being here today. Operator00:33:55Sure. So just looking at the KNX licensing agreement, now that that exclusive license is in hand, are there any plans for additional test work there? Or what are the next steps as far as that partnership goes? Speaker 300:34:10Yes. With the KMX Technologies? Yes. Yeah. That's an agreement that we're really excited about to have exclusive concentration technology for the lithium field of use as a hub and spoke Operator00:35:01Okay. That's helpful. And building on that a little bit, can you touch on your sort of medium and long term feedstock procurement strategy and provide any color that you're able to on that front? Speaker 300:35:16Yes, happy to. As disclosed previously, we control over 38,000 acres of premium brine assets in North America, primarily in the Southwest that we see as a potential sources of our supply. Along with that, which we can develop and co develop with strategic partners. Along with that, we have been very aggressive in upstream investments where we have made investments as mentioned into IGX, IGL, Jackpot from Usha Jackpot Lake as part of Usha Resources. So we have been continuing to source feedstock from multiple sources. Speaker 300:35:57We've also been very diligent about securing from near term producers and I look forward to sharing some more information on that as it becomes publicly available. Operator00:36:09Perfect. Okay. That's all for me. Thanks again. Thanks, Jake. Speaker 100:36:13Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Gregg Mesnier from Kingswood Capital Partners. Your question please. Speaker 600:36:21Yes. Thank you. Question for you, Roshan. Regarding your feedstock situation, I'm wondering how the impact of freight costs, which are rising in different ways in different places, how that would impact your operational outlook? Have you modeled any what kind of price increases on freighting the feedstock have you factored in and also the same pricing on logistics and transportation for the output of lithium as well? Speaker 600:37:11Thanks. Speaker 300:37:12Sure. Thanks, Greg, and thanks for joining our call today and a good question. So I think that should be understood the question of logistics should be understood in the current context of global lithium refinery, where up to 85% of lithium feedstocks are sent back to China for refinement and then to the OEMs, if not in China. So in that context, from creating a North American ecosystem for both raw materials and refining, we see the potential significant savings versus other competitors who have to transport their goods to China. Also, as mentioned earlier, the exclusive VMD technology from KMX technology gives us the opportunity to reduce the freight loads by concentrating the lithium brine stock substantially to reduce how much that we have to move. Speaker 300:38:08As part of our FELL3 engineering studies, we did detailed estimate of logistics, freight and transportations and we look forward to sharing more information on that report as it becomes public as well. Speaker 600:38:21Okay, great. Thanks for the color. That's all I have right now. Speaker 300:38:25Thank you, Greg. Speaker 100:38:26Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tate Sullivan from Maxim Group. Your question please. Speaker 400:38:39Thank you. Good evening. Speaker 700:38:41You had some good background on the KNX vacuum membrane distillation technology. Will that be eventually used exclusively lithium brine production as opposed to at your facility in Oklahoma, please? Speaker 300:38:57Sure. Good question. And thanks for being here today, Tate. While our first use for it would be closer to the wellhead from an upstream perspective, concentrating the lithium feedstock, there are opportunities to use it across the flow sheet that we will continue to explore and look. Other lithium companies have used it in their refining process to recycle water and there can be an opportunity for that as well. Speaker 300:39:24But our focus will really be focused on concentration of feedstock. Speaker 700:39:31Okay. And then was the KMX technology, was this part of Primero's engineering study for you? Did you work on Primero looking at potential technology partnerships or is this your own initiative? Speaker 300:39:46Primero did look at a lot of potential technology partnerships. Our relationship with KMX predates our engagement with Primero. So we have been tracking this technology for a long time now. In 2024, we signed an MOU with KMX technology, giving us the opportunity to perform extensive due diligence and really understand their technology. So our agreement was a culmination of years of work and I believe Primero also took a look at them from a due diligence perspective. Speaker 300:40:23So we are very happy with the way the agreement turned out and the way the technology performs. Speaker 700:40:31And then another question about your land footprint in Oklahoma. Are you I know you have options to purchase additional acres. Is your current footprint where you've spent already on the land enough for the first phase of development or do you need to buy exercise the options to buy more land this year? Yes. Speaker 300:40:54We believe and as we believe will be concurred by our FELL3 engineering study that the first sixty six acres is enough for Phase one, Phase two and beyond if we so choose. It's an excellent piece of lift that can fit our existing business plan. And we always keep options optionality open for future growth opportunities. Speaker 700:41:21Okay. Thank you, Roshan. Thank you, Tate. Speaker 100:41:24Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session as well as today's program. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for your participation. You may now disconnect. Good day.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by