NASDAQ:LIEN Chicago Atlantic BDC Q4 2024 Earnings Report $10.69 +0.23 (+2.20%) As of 04/16/2025 03:11 PM Eastern Earnings History Chicago Atlantic BDC EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.35Consensus EPS $0.29Beat/MissBeat by +$0.06One Year Ago EPSN/AChicago Atlantic BDC Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$12.65 millionExpected Revenue$11.00 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.65 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AChicago Atlantic BDC Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date3/31/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateMonday, March 31, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsChicago Atlantic BDC's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, May 9, 2025 at 8:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Chicago Atlantic BDC Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 31, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Chicago Atlantic BDC Fourth Quarter twenty twenty four Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tripp Sullivan of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:41Thank you. Good morning. Welcome to the Chicago Atlantic BDC conference call to review the company's results. On the call today will be Peter Sack, Chief Executive Officer Martin Rogers, Chief Financial Officer and Dino Colona, President. Our results were released this morning in our earnings press release, which can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website, along with our supplemental earnings presentation filed with the SEC. Speaker 100:01:08A live audio webcast of this call is being made available today. For those who listen to the replay of this webcast, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today and will not be updated subsequent to this call. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements that are not based on historical facts made during this call, including any statements related to financial guidance, may be deemed forward looking statements under federal securities laws because these forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that are important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by these forward looking statements. We encourage you to refer to our most recent SEC filings for information on some of these risk factors. Chicago Atlantic BDC assumes no obligation or responsibility to update any forward looking statements. Speaker 100:02:06Please note that the information reported on this call speaks only as of today, 03/31/2025. Therefore, you are advised that time sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay or transcript reading. I'll now turn the call over to Peter Sack. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:02:31Thanks, Tripp. Good morning, everyone. We are pleased to announce the company's first full quarter of operations as Chicago Atlantic BDC Inc. When we launched in October, we pledged to create a scaled, diversified portfolio of senior secured investments, generating highly attractive yields and leveraging Chicago Atlantic's industry leading expertise in cannabis and other underserved lending markets. We have delivered to and continue to execute to that plan and we are quite proud of our achievements to date. Speaker 200:03:01I want to take a moment to call out several of these achievements. First, we declared two dividends of $0.34 per share, a 36% increase from the $0.25 per share dividend for the quarter ended 09/30/2024. We closed on a $100,000,000 senior secured credit facility with an attractive rate of 300 basis points over SOFR. We also deployed a total of $45,500,000 in gross fundings by principal value from 10/01/2024, to 03/31/2025. Since establishing the Chicago Atlantic platform in 2019, we have maintained a disciplined underwriting process that reflects the core tenants of successful direct lending and that same thesis is deployed in Chicago Atlantic BDC Inc. Speaker 200:03:50We focus on strong operators, strong markets, diversity of cash flow, low leverage, high amortization and robust collateral coverage to manage downside risk and to ensure protection of principal. We are a differentiated BDC as the only BDC focused on and able to lend to cannabis companies. We also have three sub strategies where we work collaborating with borrowers in other industries, generally non sponsored transactions, where the more traditional BDC lenders don't provide capital, leading to idiosyncratic opportunities that aren't available in other BDCs or private funds. When we compare Chicago Atlantic BDC to other BDCs, our key financial metrics are differentiated as well. Our weighted average yield on debt investments as of December 31 was 16.5 compared with the BDC average of 12.1% according to recent BDC research from Ladenburg Thalmann. Speaker 200:04:45We have almost no exposure to second lien subordinated debt or equity compared to the BDC average of 19%. We had no leverage at year end and no non accruals, which compares favorably to the BDC average of 1.1x and 3.9% respectively. This vehicle provides an attractive yield to shareholders on an unlevered basis. Once we begin deploying the capital from the credit facility and that deployment flows to earnings and distributions, we expect we'll have an even further differentiated risk reward profile compared to other BDCs. A lack of meaningful federal cannabis reforms has created challenges within our industry of focus, but we continue to underwrite assuming that the federal regulatory environment remains unchanged and that operators will continue to need debt capital to grow. Speaker 200:05:35This philosophy and our strong liquidity have enabled us to grow the portfolio in 2024 and build a pipeline of nearly $644,000,000 comprised of many of the leading operators and brands. We believe our remarkable consistency and the ability to work collaboratively with our borrowers will be an important asset in 2025. Speaker 300:05:57Martin, why Speaker 200:05:57don't you take it from here? Speaker 400:05:59Good morning. Thanks, Peter. Before I start my brief comments, I want to highlight our investor presentation that we filed this morning that serves as our earnings supplemental. Turning to our highlights for the fourth quarter. Gross investment income for this quarter was $12,700,000 compared to $3,700,000 in the fourth quarter last year. Speaker 400:06:22Excluding the costs specifically related to the loan portfolio acquisition, expenses were $4,300,000 compared to $1,200,000 a year ago. Investment income excluding these transaction expenses was $8,300,000 or $0.56 per share compared with $1,700,000 or $0.28 per share a year ago. Consistent with our expectations of a much smaller amount of transaction related expenses this quarter, we had a total of $300,000 related to the loan portfolio acquisition. Reported net investment income was $8,000,000 or $0.35 per share for the quarter. Net assets were $301,200,000 at quarter end and NAV per share was $13.2 As of year end, there were 22,800,000.0 common shares issued and outstanding on a basic and diluted basis. Speaker 400:07:19As we look to the investment portfolio, I'd like to highlight how strong and diversified the portfolio is as of year end. We have 28 portfolio companies, 23.2% of our portfolio is invested outside of cannabis across multiple sectors. Our average deposition size is about 3.3% of our debt portfolio, 79.5 percent of the portfolio is floating rate and 99% of these loans have a rate floor which shields us from declining interest rates. The The gross weighted average yield of company debt investments is approximately 16.5%. The weighted average secured net leverage for our portfolio companies is 1.5 times and none of our loans is on non accrual status. Speaker 400:08:06At the BDC level, we had no debts as of year end as we continued to deploy cash from the balance sheet to fund new investments. Subsequent to year end, we closed on the new $100,000,000 credit facility, Peter mentioned earlier. This facility gives us additional capital to deploy. We should take leverage up slightly as the Speaker 500:08:27year Speaker 400:08:27progresses. We still expect our leverage to remain well below BDC averages even as we grow the investment portfolio during 2025. I will now turn it over to Dino to talk about our origination efforts. Speaker 300:08:43Thanks, Martin. We funded seven investments in the fourth quarter with a par value of approximately $24,800,000 comprised of five investments to existing borrowers for approximately $18,900,000 and two investments to new borrowers of about $5,900,000 We are proud to continue to help fund the growth of our existing portfolio companies and are excited to welcome two new borrowers to the Chicago Atlantic platform. During the quarter, we also had principal repayments and sales of investments totaling approximately $17,100,000 Subsequent to quarter end, we committed approximately $32,300,000 in new debt investments and funded approximately $20,800,000 of that. This included the funding of four investments to four new borrowers to the BDC, all originated directly from our origination platform. The current pipeline across the Chicago Atlantic platform remains robust with approximately $644,000,000 in potential debt transactions across 39 unique companies. Speaker 300:09:45Our pipeline continues to be full of highly attractive opportunities to a diverse group of companies across cannabis and non cannabis. With our $100,000,000 credit facility in place, we are now better positioned to capture more of this pipeline and grow the portfolio over the next several quarters. Recall that in addition to cannabis, we are also now able to invest in other unique opportunities to provide credit to underserved pockets of the lower and middle market. We have segmented these opportunities into three sub strategies, which include growth in technology companies, esoteric and asset based lending opportunities, and companies in need of liquidity driven debt solutions. As of year end, roughly twenty three percent of our portfolio was comprised of non cannabis investments and a roughly similar amount of non cannabis companies made up the active pipeline. Speaker 300:10:39These three sub strategies greatly expand the number of companies and industries that we can work with to tailor customized lending solutions, diversifies the portfolio and enhances our ability to deliver differentiated credit alpha. Similar to how we have approached cannabis investing, we are focused on lending to leading companies, brands and management teams with low debt to enterprise value and ample collateral or cash flow coverage. We have the same methodical and quantitatively driven approach to underwriting. It's just part of the DNA of the Chicago Atlantic platform regardless of industry, company or opportunity. We also have the same approach to crafting lender friendly loan documents with strong covenant packages that protect principle. Speaker 300:11:24We are excited about the current pipeline across both cannabis and non cannabis and are working hard to exceed on these opportunities in a methodical but expeditious manner. We anticipate the opportunities set in front of us to grow the portfolio will remain robust and we are pleased to have a flexible credit facility in place with a great banking partner that gives us the dry powder to execute on. Operator, we're now ready for questions. Operator00:11:50Questions. Our first question comes from Pablo Zuwanich with Zuwanich Associates. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:12:21Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Peter, maybe it's a two part question, but maybe if we can remind the audience of the advantages of the BDC, both from the Chicago Atlantic point of view, but also from the borrower point of view. What's advantage for the borrower of borrowing money from a BDC compared to a mortgage REIT or a sell leaseback, if you can adjust that in general terms. But the second part to the question is in terms of more of the restrictions around what is the assets you can invest in, just a percentage that has to be I understand private or smaller. Speaker 500:12:58Just talk about that where you are. I mean, there seem to be quite a bit of public companies or larger companies in the portfolio. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but just remind us about the restrictions in terms of what you can invest in and what you cannot. Thank you. Speaker 200:13:11Thank you, Pablo. From a borrower perspective, the borrower doesn't want to know about your restrictions. The borrower doesn't want to hear about what a lender's limitations are. A borrower wants availability of capital and a strategic partner that can that understands their business and can support their growth, both through good times and challenging times. And so the BDC is another lever through which Chicago Atlantic can support operators across the industry and provide another toolkit, another source of funding to allow us to provide more flexible capital solutions to our operators. Speaker 200:14:04BDCs are registered by the 1940 Investment Act. BDCs have limitations on concentration and they have limitations on the number of companies that may be invested and that are public with a market cap above $250,000,000 They were established in order to support lending to small and medium sized private companies across The U. S. And that's the purpose to which we deploy this capital today in with particular focus on The U. S. Speaker 200:14:32Cannabis industry and other underserved lending markets. Speaker 500:14:40All right. That's good. Thank you. So just moving on in terms of the pipeline, you've talked about, I don't know how much guidance you can give, but $32,000,000 in new debt, new fundings in new debt in the first quarter. Is that a pace that we can assume can be sustained throughout the year, 30,000,000 each quarter? Speaker 500:14:56And just related to that, the appetite for leverage, I think Martin referred to taking on debt, but leverage less than the average VDC. What does that mean, 20%, fifty %? Thank you. Speaker 200:15:10We're focused on deploying the credit facility that we announced in the first quarter. As far as pacing goes, it's difficult to forecast because deployments can be lumpy and can accelerate quickly. So it's difficult for us to forecast quarter by quarter throughout the end of the year, but we're focused on deploying the existing credit facility today. Speaker 300:15:32And Pablo, just to clarify, that was roughly $30,000,000 of commitments and roughly $20,000,000 of fundings post the end of the year. Speaker 500:15:41Right. Yes. All right. Understood. Okay. Speaker 500:15:43So in terms of leverage target, I mean, we can just assume you make full use of a facility by year end. Speaker 200:15:54That's not an unreasonable assumption. Speaker 500:15:57Okay. Thank you. And then just, obviously, you highlighted the quality of the book. We've seen issues at other companies, right? Dividend cards, some issues with IPR, with their tenants. Speaker 500:16:12From one angle, we would say, well, it's a challenging industry, so that's something that should be expected. But it sounds like you are in a much better situation in terms of your book. I don't know what more color you can give because from outside one could say it's not so much about execution on the lender side, it's more about just the landscape out there, but maybe that's a wrong read. Thank you. Speaker 200:16:37I think that at Chicago Lendlyk, we've created something special. We've been operating in this space for close to six years. We've deployed more than $2,000,000,000 of capital across close to 200 investments and we've done so through various cycles of cannabis equity capital markets through challenging state level dynamics and we've done so with a pretty impressive track record. We do think of it as execution, but it's execution on our side. Our task is to underwrite risk that features characteristics that is our area of focus, which is low leverage to focus on diversified cash flows, strong collateral base with some of the best operators in the industry. Speaker 200:17:31And that discipline has allowed us to maintain our track record of operator success in portfolio construction over the last six years and that's what we're looking to continue to perform to in the BDC. Speaker 500:17:49Thank you. And one last one maybe for Martin. Just talk about your interest rate exposure, floors, flexible fixed rate versus flexible rates, if you can touch on that? Thank you, Florentine. Speaker 200:18:01Yes, I appreciate the question, Pablo. Speaker 400:18:03I think we've mentioned that the vast majority of our loans are fixed rates or have floors usually between sulfur and prime. Approximately 99% of our loans have a floor, so it certainly helps to decrease the downside risk of any interest rates. I'm not sure if there's any more color you want Speaker 300:18:29to add to that you want me to add to that, Pablo? Speaker 500:18:32No, that's fine. That's good. All right. That's all for me. Thank you. Speaker 300:18:36Thank you, Pablo. Appreciate the question. Operator00:18:41This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Peter Sack for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:18:50Thank you to our investors for the support and we look forward to reporting Q1 in the coming weeks. Thank you. Operator00:19:02The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Chicago Atlantic BDC Fourth Quarter twenty twenty four Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tripp Sullivan of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:41Thank you. Good morning. Welcome to the Chicago Atlantic BDC conference call to review the company's results. On the call today will be Peter Sack, Chief Executive Officer Martin Rogers, Chief Financial Officer and Dino Colona, President. Our results were released this morning in our earnings press release, which can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website, along with our supplemental earnings presentation filed with the SEC. Speaker 100:01:08A live audio webcast of this call is being made available today. For those who listen to the replay of this webcast, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today and will not be updated subsequent to this call. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements that are not based on historical facts made during this call, including any statements related to financial guidance, may be deemed forward looking statements under federal securities laws because these forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that are important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by these forward looking statements. We encourage you to refer to our most recent SEC filings for information on some of these risk factors. Chicago Atlantic BDC assumes no obligation or responsibility to update any forward looking statements. Speaker 100:02:06Please note that the information reported on this call speaks only as of today, 03/31/2025. Therefore, you are advised that time sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay or transcript reading. I'll now turn the call over to Peter Sack. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:02:31Thanks, Tripp. Good morning, everyone. We are pleased to announce the company's first full quarter of operations as Chicago Atlantic BDC Inc. When we launched in October, we pledged to create a scaled, diversified portfolio of senior secured investments, generating highly attractive yields and leveraging Chicago Atlantic's industry leading expertise in cannabis and other underserved lending markets. We have delivered to and continue to execute to that plan and we are quite proud of our achievements to date. Speaker 200:03:01I want to take a moment to call out several of these achievements. First, we declared two dividends of $0.34 per share, a 36% increase from the $0.25 per share dividend for the quarter ended 09/30/2024. We closed on a $100,000,000 senior secured credit facility with an attractive rate of 300 basis points over SOFR. We also deployed a total of $45,500,000 in gross fundings by principal value from 10/01/2024, to 03/31/2025. Since establishing the Chicago Atlantic platform in 2019, we have maintained a disciplined underwriting process that reflects the core tenants of successful direct lending and that same thesis is deployed in Chicago Atlantic BDC Inc. Speaker 200:03:50We focus on strong operators, strong markets, diversity of cash flow, low leverage, high amortization and robust collateral coverage to manage downside risk and to ensure protection of principal. We are a differentiated BDC as the only BDC focused on and able to lend to cannabis companies. We also have three sub strategies where we work collaborating with borrowers in other industries, generally non sponsored transactions, where the more traditional BDC lenders don't provide capital, leading to idiosyncratic opportunities that aren't available in other BDCs or private funds. When we compare Chicago Atlantic BDC to other BDCs, our key financial metrics are differentiated as well. Our weighted average yield on debt investments as of December 31 was 16.5 compared with the BDC average of 12.1% according to recent BDC research from Ladenburg Thalmann. Speaker 200:04:45We have almost no exposure to second lien subordinated debt or equity compared to the BDC average of 19%. We had no leverage at year end and no non accruals, which compares favorably to the BDC average of 1.1x and 3.9% respectively. This vehicle provides an attractive yield to shareholders on an unlevered basis. Once we begin deploying the capital from the credit facility and that deployment flows to earnings and distributions, we expect we'll have an even further differentiated risk reward profile compared to other BDCs. A lack of meaningful federal cannabis reforms has created challenges within our industry of focus, but we continue to underwrite assuming that the federal regulatory environment remains unchanged and that operators will continue to need debt capital to grow. Speaker 200:05:35This philosophy and our strong liquidity have enabled us to grow the portfolio in 2024 and build a pipeline of nearly $644,000,000 comprised of many of the leading operators and brands. We believe our remarkable consistency and the ability to work collaboratively with our borrowers will be an important asset in 2025. Speaker 300:05:57Martin, why Speaker 200:05:57don't you take it from here? Speaker 400:05:59Good morning. Thanks, Peter. Before I start my brief comments, I want to highlight our investor presentation that we filed this morning that serves as our earnings supplemental. Turning to our highlights for the fourth quarter. Gross investment income for this quarter was $12,700,000 compared to $3,700,000 in the fourth quarter last year. Speaker 400:06:22Excluding the costs specifically related to the loan portfolio acquisition, expenses were $4,300,000 compared to $1,200,000 a year ago. Investment income excluding these transaction expenses was $8,300,000 or $0.56 per share compared with $1,700,000 or $0.28 per share a year ago. Consistent with our expectations of a much smaller amount of transaction related expenses this quarter, we had a total of $300,000 related to the loan portfolio acquisition. Reported net investment income was $8,000,000 or $0.35 per share for the quarter. Net assets were $301,200,000 at quarter end and NAV per share was $13.2 As of year end, there were 22,800,000.0 common shares issued and outstanding on a basic and diluted basis. Speaker 400:07:19As we look to the investment portfolio, I'd like to highlight how strong and diversified the portfolio is as of year end. We have 28 portfolio companies, 23.2% of our portfolio is invested outside of cannabis across multiple sectors. Our average deposition size is about 3.3% of our debt portfolio, 79.5 percent of the portfolio is floating rate and 99% of these loans have a rate floor which shields us from declining interest rates. The The gross weighted average yield of company debt investments is approximately 16.5%. The weighted average secured net leverage for our portfolio companies is 1.5 times and none of our loans is on non accrual status. Speaker 400:08:06At the BDC level, we had no debts as of year end as we continued to deploy cash from the balance sheet to fund new investments. Subsequent to year end, we closed on the new $100,000,000 credit facility, Peter mentioned earlier. This facility gives us additional capital to deploy. We should take leverage up slightly as the Speaker 500:08:27year Speaker 400:08:27progresses. We still expect our leverage to remain well below BDC averages even as we grow the investment portfolio during 2025. I will now turn it over to Dino to talk about our origination efforts. Speaker 300:08:43Thanks, Martin. We funded seven investments in the fourth quarter with a par value of approximately $24,800,000 comprised of five investments to existing borrowers for approximately $18,900,000 and two investments to new borrowers of about $5,900,000 We are proud to continue to help fund the growth of our existing portfolio companies and are excited to welcome two new borrowers to the Chicago Atlantic platform. During the quarter, we also had principal repayments and sales of investments totaling approximately $17,100,000 Subsequent to quarter end, we committed approximately $32,300,000 in new debt investments and funded approximately $20,800,000 of that. This included the funding of four investments to four new borrowers to the BDC, all originated directly from our origination platform. The current pipeline across the Chicago Atlantic platform remains robust with approximately $644,000,000 in potential debt transactions across 39 unique companies. Speaker 300:09:45Our pipeline continues to be full of highly attractive opportunities to a diverse group of companies across cannabis and non cannabis. With our $100,000,000 credit facility in place, we are now better positioned to capture more of this pipeline and grow the portfolio over the next several quarters. Recall that in addition to cannabis, we are also now able to invest in other unique opportunities to provide credit to underserved pockets of the lower and middle market. We have segmented these opportunities into three sub strategies, which include growth in technology companies, esoteric and asset based lending opportunities, and companies in need of liquidity driven debt solutions. As of year end, roughly twenty three percent of our portfolio was comprised of non cannabis investments and a roughly similar amount of non cannabis companies made up the active pipeline. Speaker 300:10:39These three sub strategies greatly expand the number of companies and industries that we can work with to tailor customized lending solutions, diversifies the portfolio and enhances our ability to deliver differentiated credit alpha. Similar to how we have approached cannabis investing, we are focused on lending to leading companies, brands and management teams with low debt to enterprise value and ample collateral or cash flow coverage. We have the same methodical and quantitatively driven approach to underwriting. It's just part of the DNA of the Chicago Atlantic platform regardless of industry, company or opportunity. We also have the same approach to crafting lender friendly loan documents with strong covenant packages that protect principle. Speaker 300:11:24We are excited about the current pipeline across both cannabis and non cannabis and are working hard to exceed on these opportunities in a methodical but expeditious manner. We anticipate the opportunities set in front of us to grow the portfolio will remain robust and we are pleased to have a flexible credit facility in place with a great banking partner that gives us the dry powder to execute on. Operator, we're now ready for questions. Operator00:11:50Questions. Our first question comes from Pablo Zuwanich with Zuwanich Associates. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:12:21Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Peter, maybe it's a two part question, but maybe if we can remind the audience of the advantages of the BDC, both from the Chicago Atlantic point of view, but also from the borrower point of view. What's advantage for the borrower of borrowing money from a BDC compared to a mortgage REIT or a sell leaseback, if you can adjust that in general terms. But the second part to the question is in terms of more of the restrictions around what is the assets you can invest in, just a percentage that has to be I understand private or smaller. Speaker 500:12:58Just talk about that where you are. I mean, there seem to be quite a bit of public companies or larger companies in the portfolio. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but just remind us about the restrictions in terms of what you can invest in and what you cannot. Thank you. Speaker 200:13:11Thank you, Pablo. From a borrower perspective, the borrower doesn't want to know about your restrictions. The borrower doesn't want to hear about what a lender's limitations are. A borrower wants availability of capital and a strategic partner that can that understands their business and can support their growth, both through good times and challenging times. And so the BDC is another lever through which Chicago Atlantic can support operators across the industry and provide another toolkit, another source of funding to allow us to provide more flexible capital solutions to our operators. Speaker 200:14:04BDCs are registered by the 1940 Investment Act. BDCs have limitations on concentration and they have limitations on the number of companies that may be invested and that are public with a market cap above $250,000,000 They were established in order to support lending to small and medium sized private companies across The U. S. And that's the purpose to which we deploy this capital today in with particular focus on The U. S. Speaker 200:14:32Cannabis industry and other underserved lending markets. Speaker 500:14:40All right. That's good. Thank you. So just moving on in terms of the pipeline, you've talked about, I don't know how much guidance you can give, but $32,000,000 in new debt, new fundings in new debt in the first quarter. Is that a pace that we can assume can be sustained throughout the year, 30,000,000 each quarter? Speaker 500:14:56And just related to that, the appetite for leverage, I think Martin referred to taking on debt, but leverage less than the average VDC. What does that mean, 20%, fifty %? Thank you. Speaker 200:15:10We're focused on deploying the credit facility that we announced in the first quarter. As far as pacing goes, it's difficult to forecast because deployments can be lumpy and can accelerate quickly. So it's difficult for us to forecast quarter by quarter throughout the end of the year, but we're focused on deploying the existing credit facility today. Speaker 300:15:32And Pablo, just to clarify, that was roughly $30,000,000 of commitments and roughly $20,000,000 of fundings post the end of the year. Speaker 500:15:41Right. Yes. All right. Understood. Okay. Speaker 500:15:43So in terms of leverage target, I mean, we can just assume you make full use of a facility by year end. Speaker 200:15:54That's not an unreasonable assumption. Speaker 500:15:57Okay. Thank you. And then just, obviously, you highlighted the quality of the book. We've seen issues at other companies, right? Dividend cards, some issues with IPR, with their tenants. Speaker 500:16:12From one angle, we would say, well, it's a challenging industry, so that's something that should be expected. But it sounds like you are in a much better situation in terms of your book. I don't know what more color you can give because from outside one could say it's not so much about execution on the lender side, it's more about just the landscape out there, but maybe that's a wrong read. Thank you. Speaker 200:16:37I think that at Chicago Lendlyk, we've created something special. We've been operating in this space for close to six years. We've deployed more than $2,000,000,000 of capital across close to 200 investments and we've done so through various cycles of cannabis equity capital markets through challenging state level dynamics and we've done so with a pretty impressive track record. We do think of it as execution, but it's execution on our side. Our task is to underwrite risk that features characteristics that is our area of focus, which is low leverage to focus on diversified cash flows, strong collateral base with some of the best operators in the industry. Speaker 200:17:31And that discipline has allowed us to maintain our track record of operator success in portfolio construction over the last six years and that's what we're looking to continue to perform to in the BDC. Speaker 500:17:49Thank you. And one last one maybe for Martin. Just talk about your interest rate exposure, floors, flexible fixed rate versus flexible rates, if you can touch on that? Thank you, Florentine. Speaker 200:18:01Yes, I appreciate the question, Pablo. Speaker 400:18:03I think we've mentioned that the vast majority of our loans are fixed rates or have floors usually between sulfur and prime. Approximately 99% of our loans have a floor, so it certainly helps to decrease the downside risk of any interest rates. I'm not sure if there's any more color you want Speaker 300:18:29to add to that you want me to add to that, Pablo? Speaker 500:18:32No, that's fine. That's good. All right. That's all for me. Thank you. Speaker 300:18:36Thank you, Pablo. Appreciate the question. Operator00:18:41This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Peter Sack for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:18:50Thank you to our investors for the support and we look forward to reporting Q1 in the coming weeks. Thank you. Operator00:19:02The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by