NASDAQ:CMCT Creative Media & Community Trust Co. Q4 2024 Earnings Report $5.28 +0.74 (+16.30%) Closing price 04/25/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$5.24 -0.04 (-0.66%) As of 04/25/2025 07:58 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings History Creative Media & Community Trust Co. EPS ResultsActual EPS-$18.75Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPS-$166.50Creative Media & Community Trust Co. Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$27.46 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACreative Media & Community Trust Co. Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date3/7/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateFriday, March 7, 2025Conference Call Time11:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsCreative Media & Community Trust Co.'s next earnings date is estimated for Tuesday, May 13, 2025, based on past reporting schedules. Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Creative Media & Community Trust Co. Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 7, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Creative Media and Community Trust Fourth Quarter twenty twenty four Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor over to Steve Altobrando, Portfolio Oversight. Operator00:00:40Sir, you may begin. Speaker 100:00:42Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us. My name is Steve Altobrando, the Portfolio Oversight for CMCT. Also on the call today are David Thompson, our Chief Executive Officer and Barry Berlin, our Chief Financial Officer. This call is being webcast and will be temporarily archived on the Investor Relations section of our website, where you can also find our earnings release. Our earnings release includes a reconciliation of non GAAP financial measures discussed during today's call. Speaker 100:01:08During this call, we will make forward looking statements. These forward looking statements are based on the beliefs of, assumptions made by and information currently available to us. Our actual results will be affected by known and unknown risks, trends, uncertainties and other factors that are beyond our control or ability to predict. Although we believe our assumptions are reasonable, they are not guarantees of future performance and some will prove to be incorrect. Therefore, our actual future results can be expected to differ from our expectations and those differences may be material. Speaker 100:01:40For a more detailed description of potential risks, please refer to our SEC filings, which can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to David Thompson. Speaker 200:01:52Thanks, Steve. And thank you to everyone for joining our call today. I'd like to take a moment to give an update on the progress of our strategic initiatives and then I'll go over our quarterly results. As we have discussed on previous calls, we remain focused on improving our balance sheet and liquidity and growing our multifamily portfolio as well as reducing our traditional office assets. In September, we announced actions to address these priorities. Speaker 200:02:17Specifically, we announced our intention to place property level financing on several of our assets and use the proceeds to fully repay and retire our recourse corporate level credit facility. We've made significant progress on this, closing three mortgages since November. And we have used a substantial portion of the proceeds to reduce the balance outstanding on our credit facility, which is now $15,000,000 down from $169,000,000 at the end of the third quarter. We're working to complete one additional financing which we expect to close over the coming months that we expect will provide sufficient proceeds to complete the repayment and full retirement of this recourse credit facility. We are pleased to have made progress on these transactions, particularly in an environment that is very challenging to finance office properties. Speaker 200:03:04After we complete this process, the only corporate debt remaining will be our $27,000,000 junior subordinated notes, which have about ten years of term remaining and no corporate covenants. We also continue to evaluate asset sales with a goal of strengthening our balance sheet, improving our liquidity and growing our portfolio of premier multifamily assets. Turning to our fourth quarter results, our core FFO improved by approximately $4,500,000 from the prior quarter, primarily due to higher NOI, lower interest expense and lower preferred dividends, which was due to the redemption of preferred shares in the third quarter. Our net operating income increased by $1,600,000 from the third quarter, primarily due to our hotel segment, which increased $1,100,000 Our lending and multifamily divisions generated small increases in NOI while our office segment had a small quarter over quarter decline in NOI. With that, I will turn it over to Steve to provide a further update on our development pipeline, the portfolio and our co investment activity. Speaker 100:04:07Thanks, David. I would like to provide some more details on the refinancings that David referenced. In November, we closed a mortgage of up to $92,200,000 on our Chardon Grand Hotel in Sacramento. Proceeds were primarily used to pay down our credit facility and to fund the previously discussed $21,000,000 room renovation of all five zero five rooms at the property that is now complete. We anticipate starting a renovation of the public space later this year. Speaker 100:04:33The next phase of the renovation will be funded using proceeds from operations, future funding from the loan and $8,000,000 of key money we will receive as part of the extension of our management agreement with Marriott. In December, we closed on $105,000,000 mortgage on our three property Wilshire portfolio in Los Angeles, which includes high quality office assets at 622620 And 9460 Wilshire Boulevard in Brentwood and Beverly Hills. We primarily use the proceeds to pay down our credit facility as well as to establish a reserve for lease up costs. In February, we closed a $5,000,000 mortgage on 8944 Lindblade, a creative office building in Culver City that has a new ten year lease in place. Proceeds will be used for tenant improvements on the new lease and general corporate purposes. Speaker 100:05:22As David mentioned, we have made significant progress reducing the balance on our recourse credit facility. In addition, we are in the process of financing 3601 South Congress also called Penfield, our creative office campus in Austin, Texas, which we expect to complete over the coming months. The proceeds are expected to be used to retire our credit facility. Turning to our multifamily results, NOI modestly increased from the prior quarter, while total occupancy declined about two twenty basis points from the prior quarter, it increased two forty basis points year over year. We are making progress on our lease up of 701 South Hudson in Los Angeles. Speaker 100:06:00Residential portion of our partial office to residential top two floor conversion at 4750 Wilshire. The ground floor creative office space is 100% leased and the top two floors were converted to 68 high end residential units. Residential portion of the property is now 40% leased compared to 10% on our last call. The asset is located in Hancock Park, an affluent residential submarket of LA where housing is supply constrained. Currently have one development underway 1915 Park, which is a seven story 36 unit ground up multifamily development in Echo Park, Los Angeles, a thriving walkable submarket with numerous dining and entertainment options. Speaker 100:06:43This project is a joint venture with an international pension fund and is being developed on land adjacent to our office building at 1910 West Sunset. We continue to expect total to deliver the asset midyear. Turning to our office segment, we executed nearly 176,000 square feet of leases in the fourth quarter as we extended our largest tenant to the end of twenty twenty seven. Our office lease percentage was 71% at the end of the fourth quarter. When excluding our one office building in Oakland, our lease percentage is 82% at the end of the fourth quarter. Speaker 100:07:16Our occupancy has been impacted by work from home trends and challenges in the Bay Area. However, we would note that leasing activity has been steadily picking up, particularly at our LA and Austin assets. With that, I'll turn it over to Barry. Speaker 300:07:31Thank you, Steve. Good morning. I'm going to spend a few minutes going over the financial highlights for the fourth quarter twenty twenty four, starting with our segment NOI, which was $9,200,000 for the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four compared to $10,800,000 in the prior year comparable period. Broken down by segment, the decrease of $1,600,000 was driven by decreases of $193,000 for our office properties, $254,000 from our multifamily properties, $828,000 from our hotel business and $331,000 from our lending business. Our office segment NOI for Q4 twenty twenty four was $5,200,000 versus $5,400,000 during Q4 twenty twenty three. Speaker 300:08:21The slate drop was driven by a decrease in rental revenue at our office property in Oakland, California, attributable to a decrease in occupancy resulting from a large tenant exercising a partial lease termination option. This decrease was partially offset by our unconsolidated office entities, which collectively experienced a decrease in the net unrealized loss on their investments in real estate compared to the prior year period. For our Multifamily segment, we reported segment NOI of approximately $855,000 during Q4 twenty twenty four compared to approximately $1,100,000 for the prior year comparable period. The decrease was primarily due to an unrealized loss on investment in real estate and one of our unconsolidated joint ventures during the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four. Due to construction related to hotel renovations that began in the third quarter of twenty twenty four, our hotel operations had decreased occupancy causing a drop in NOI of approximately $828,000 to $2,100,000 for the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four compared to $2,900,000 in the prior year comparable period. Speaker 300:09:34And our lending division NOI decreased to $980,000 from $1,300,000 in the prior year comparable period, primarily due to a decrease in premium income and a decrease in interest income as a result of lower loan originations and loan sale volume. Our below the NOI line activity was relatively flat when comparing the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four to last year. We had an increase in depreciation and amortization of $1,600,000 which was driven by additions to our fixed assets resulting from capital expenditures during twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, as well as a loss on early extinguishment of debt of $1,400,000 related to the pay down of the majority of our revolver during the current quarter in advance of its maturity. These reductions to our NOI were partially offset by a decrease in interest expense not allocated to our operating segments of around $1,100,000 due mostly to a decrease in aggregate fund level and property level debt outstanding, a decrease in transaction related costs of $1,000,000 and a decrease in G and A expenses of $800,000 Our FFO was negative $8,700,000 or negative $0.93 per diluted share compared to negative $9,900,000 or negative $4.07 per diluted share in the prior year comparable period. Speaker 300:11:04And our core FFO was negative $7,000,000 or negative $0.75 per diluted share compared to negative $8,400,000 or negative $3.46 per diluted share in the prior year comparable period. The increase in FFO and core FFO was primarily due to a decrease in redeemable preferred stock dividend of approximately $1,300,000 Finally, we are seeking shareholder approval to do a one for 25 reverse stock split. While our recent preferred common redemptions improved our cash flow, liquidity and balance sheet, it also increased the amount of common shares outstanding contributing to a lower stock price. With that, we can now open the line for questions. Operator00:12:48And ladies and gentlemen, I'm showing no questions at this time. We'll close today's question and answer session as well as today's conference call. We do thank you for attending today's presentation. 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There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Creative Media and Community Trust Fourth Quarter twenty twenty four Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor over to Steve Altobrando, Portfolio Oversight. Operator00:00:40Sir, you may begin. Speaker 100:00:42Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us. My name is Steve Altobrando, the Portfolio Oversight for CMCT. Also on the call today are David Thompson, our Chief Executive Officer and Barry Berlin, our Chief Financial Officer. This call is being webcast and will be temporarily archived on the Investor Relations section of our website, where you can also find our earnings release. Our earnings release includes a reconciliation of non GAAP financial measures discussed during today's call. Speaker 100:01:08During this call, we will make forward looking statements. These forward looking statements are based on the beliefs of, assumptions made by and information currently available to us. Our actual results will be affected by known and unknown risks, trends, uncertainties and other factors that are beyond our control or ability to predict. Although we believe our assumptions are reasonable, they are not guarantees of future performance and some will prove to be incorrect. Therefore, our actual future results can be expected to differ from our expectations and those differences may be material. Speaker 100:01:40For a more detailed description of potential risks, please refer to our SEC filings, which can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to David Thompson. Speaker 200:01:52Thanks, Steve. And thank you to everyone for joining our call today. I'd like to take a moment to give an update on the progress of our strategic initiatives and then I'll go over our quarterly results. As we have discussed on previous calls, we remain focused on improving our balance sheet and liquidity and growing our multifamily portfolio as well as reducing our traditional office assets. In September, we announced actions to address these priorities. Speaker 200:02:17Specifically, we announced our intention to place property level financing on several of our assets and use the proceeds to fully repay and retire our recourse corporate level credit facility. We've made significant progress on this, closing three mortgages since November. And we have used a substantial portion of the proceeds to reduce the balance outstanding on our credit facility, which is now $15,000,000 down from $169,000,000 at the end of the third quarter. We're working to complete one additional financing which we expect to close over the coming months that we expect will provide sufficient proceeds to complete the repayment and full retirement of this recourse credit facility. We are pleased to have made progress on these transactions, particularly in an environment that is very challenging to finance office properties. Speaker 200:03:04After we complete this process, the only corporate debt remaining will be our $27,000,000 junior subordinated notes, which have about ten years of term remaining and no corporate covenants. We also continue to evaluate asset sales with a goal of strengthening our balance sheet, improving our liquidity and growing our portfolio of premier multifamily assets. Turning to our fourth quarter results, our core FFO improved by approximately $4,500,000 from the prior quarter, primarily due to higher NOI, lower interest expense and lower preferred dividends, which was due to the redemption of preferred shares in the third quarter. Our net operating income increased by $1,600,000 from the third quarter, primarily due to our hotel segment, which increased $1,100,000 Our lending and multifamily divisions generated small increases in NOI while our office segment had a small quarter over quarter decline in NOI. With that, I will turn it over to Steve to provide a further update on our development pipeline, the portfolio and our co investment activity. Speaker 100:04:07Thanks, David. I would like to provide some more details on the refinancings that David referenced. In November, we closed a mortgage of up to $92,200,000 on our Chardon Grand Hotel in Sacramento. Proceeds were primarily used to pay down our credit facility and to fund the previously discussed $21,000,000 room renovation of all five zero five rooms at the property that is now complete. We anticipate starting a renovation of the public space later this year. Speaker 100:04:33The next phase of the renovation will be funded using proceeds from operations, future funding from the loan and $8,000,000 of key money we will receive as part of the extension of our management agreement with Marriott. In December, we closed on $105,000,000 mortgage on our three property Wilshire portfolio in Los Angeles, which includes high quality office assets at 622620 And 9460 Wilshire Boulevard in Brentwood and Beverly Hills. We primarily use the proceeds to pay down our credit facility as well as to establish a reserve for lease up costs. In February, we closed a $5,000,000 mortgage on 8944 Lindblade, a creative office building in Culver City that has a new ten year lease in place. Proceeds will be used for tenant improvements on the new lease and general corporate purposes. Speaker 100:05:22As David mentioned, we have made significant progress reducing the balance on our recourse credit facility. In addition, we are in the process of financing 3601 South Congress also called Penfield, our creative office campus in Austin, Texas, which we expect to complete over the coming months. The proceeds are expected to be used to retire our credit facility. Turning to our multifamily results, NOI modestly increased from the prior quarter, while total occupancy declined about two twenty basis points from the prior quarter, it increased two forty basis points year over year. We are making progress on our lease up of 701 South Hudson in Los Angeles. Speaker 100:06:00Residential portion of our partial office to residential top two floor conversion at 4750 Wilshire. The ground floor creative office space is 100% leased and the top two floors were converted to 68 high end residential units. Residential portion of the property is now 40% leased compared to 10% on our last call. The asset is located in Hancock Park, an affluent residential submarket of LA where housing is supply constrained. Currently have one development underway 1915 Park, which is a seven story 36 unit ground up multifamily development in Echo Park, Los Angeles, a thriving walkable submarket with numerous dining and entertainment options. Speaker 100:06:43This project is a joint venture with an international pension fund and is being developed on land adjacent to our office building at 1910 West Sunset. We continue to expect total to deliver the asset midyear. Turning to our office segment, we executed nearly 176,000 square feet of leases in the fourth quarter as we extended our largest tenant to the end of twenty twenty seven. Our office lease percentage was 71% at the end of the fourth quarter. When excluding our one office building in Oakland, our lease percentage is 82% at the end of the fourth quarter. Speaker 100:07:16Our occupancy has been impacted by work from home trends and challenges in the Bay Area. However, we would note that leasing activity has been steadily picking up, particularly at our LA and Austin assets. With that, I'll turn it over to Barry. Speaker 300:07:31Thank you, Steve. Good morning. I'm going to spend a few minutes going over the financial highlights for the fourth quarter twenty twenty four, starting with our segment NOI, which was $9,200,000 for the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four compared to $10,800,000 in the prior year comparable period. Broken down by segment, the decrease of $1,600,000 was driven by decreases of $193,000 for our office properties, $254,000 from our multifamily properties, $828,000 from our hotel business and $331,000 from our lending business. Our office segment NOI for Q4 twenty twenty four was $5,200,000 versus $5,400,000 during Q4 twenty twenty three. Speaker 300:08:21The slate drop was driven by a decrease in rental revenue at our office property in Oakland, California, attributable to a decrease in occupancy resulting from a large tenant exercising a partial lease termination option. This decrease was partially offset by our unconsolidated office entities, which collectively experienced a decrease in the net unrealized loss on their investments in real estate compared to the prior year period. For our Multifamily segment, we reported segment NOI of approximately $855,000 during Q4 twenty twenty four compared to approximately $1,100,000 for the prior year comparable period. The decrease was primarily due to an unrealized loss on investment in real estate and one of our unconsolidated joint ventures during the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four. Due to construction related to hotel renovations that began in the third quarter of twenty twenty four, our hotel operations had decreased occupancy causing a drop in NOI of approximately $828,000 to $2,100,000 for the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four compared to $2,900,000 in the prior year comparable period. Speaker 300:09:34And our lending division NOI decreased to $980,000 from $1,300,000 in the prior year comparable period, primarily due to a decrease in premium income and a decrease in interest income as a result of lower loan originations and loan sale volume. Our below the NOI line activity was relatively flat when comparing the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four to last year. We had an increase in depreciation and amortization of $1,600,000 which was driven by additions to our fixed assets resulting from capital expenditures during twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, as well as a loss on early extinguishment of debt of $1,400,000 related to the pay down of the majority of our revolver during the current quarter in advance of its maturity. These reductions to our NOI were partially offset by a decrease in interest expense not allocated to our operating segments of around $1,100,000 due mostly to a decrease in aggregate fund level and property level debt outstanding, a decrease in transaction related costs of $1,000,000 and a decrease in G and A expenses of $800,000 Our FFO was negative $8,700,000 or negative $0.93 per diluted share compared to negative $9,900,000 or negative $4.07 per diluted share in the prior year comparable period. Speaker 300:11:04And our core FFO was negative $7,000,000 or negative $0.75 per diluted share compared to negative $8,400,000 or negative $3.46 per diluted share in the prior year comparable period. The increase in FFO and core FFO was primarily due to a decrease in redeemable preferred stock dividend of approximately $1,300,000 Finally, we are seeking shareholder approval to do a one for 25 reverse stock split. While our recent preferred common redemptions improved our cash flow, liquidity and balance sheet, it also increased the amount of common shares outstanding contributing to a lower stock price. With that, we can now open the line for questions. Operator00:12:48And ladies and gentlemen, I'm showing no questions at this time. We'll close today's question and answer session as well as today's conference call. We do thank you for attending today's presentation. You mayRead morePowered by