Core Laboratories Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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April 24, 2025

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Core Laboratories First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad.

Operator

To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Note this event is being recorded. I would now like to hand the call to Larry Bruno, Chairman and CEO. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Andrea. Good morning in The Americas, good afternoon in Europe, Africa and The Middle East, good evening in Asia Pacific. We would like to welcome all of our shareholders, analysts and most importantly our employees to Core Laboratories' first quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. This morning I am joined by Chris Hill, Core's Chief Financial Officer and Gwen Gresham, Core's Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations. The call will be divided into six segments.

Speaker 1

Gwen will start by making remarks regarding forward looking statements. We will then have some opening comments, including a high level review of important factors in Core's Q1 performance. In addition, we will review Core's strategies and the three financial tenets the company employs to build long term shareholder value. Chris will then give a detailed financial overview and have additional comments regarding shareholder value. Following Chris, Gwen will provide some comments on the company's outlook and guidance.

Speaker 1

I'll then review Core's two operating segments, detailing our progress and discussing the continued successful introduction and deployment of Core Lab's technologies, as well as highlighting some of Core's operations and major projects worldwide. Then we'll open the phones for a Q and A session. I'll now turn the call over to Gwen for remarks on forward looking statements.

Speaker 2

Before we the conference this morning, I'll mention that some of the statements we make during this call may include projections, estimates and other forward looking information. This would include any discussion of the company's business outlook. These types of forward looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to materially differ from our forward looking statements. These risks and uncertainties are discussed in our most recent annual report on Form 10 ks as well as other reports and registration statements filed by us with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.

Speaker 2

Our comments also include non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included in the press release announcing our first quarter results. Those non GAAP measures can also be found on our website. With that said, I'll pass the discussion back to Larry.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Gwen. Moving now to some high level comments about our first quarter twenty twenty five results. Core continued to execute its strategic plan of technology investments targeted to both solve client problems and capitalize on Core's technical and geographic opportunities. First quarter twenty twenty five revenue was down 4% compared to Q4 of twenty twenty four, with operating income and earnings per share also down sequentially. In addition to the normal seasonality that commonly yields a decline in client activity from Q4 to Q1, there were also headwinds in Q1 due to the ongoing geopolitical conflicts in Russia, Ukraine and The Middle East.

Speaker 1

These were compounded by expanded sanctions that were introduced in early January. These expanded sanctions impacted both reservoir description and production enhancement and created temporary operational inefficiencies. Looking at Reservoir Description in more detail, revenue for the first quarter was down 7% compared to Q4 of twenty twenty four. As mentioned, this reflects both typical seasonal patterns and the impact of the enhanced sanctions that were announced in January. The sanctions created uncertainty and volatility in commodity prices, which in turn impacted demand for the laboratory assay services we provide that are tied to the maritime transportation and trade of crude oil and derived products.

Speaker 1

We did see demand for these services pick up late in the quarter. For the first quarter, ex items, operating margins in Reservoir Description were 10%, down sequentially by six seventy basis points. The loss of revenue tied to the geopolitical events created high decrementals, but Core's operational leadership quickly took steps to realign its cost structure, which helped mitigate the impact on the first quarter and should also help improve margins in future quarters. In Production Enhancement, first quarter revenue was flat compared to Q4 of twenty twenty four. Here again, newly imposed sanctions created headwinds in Q1 as planned product sales and deliveries to certain entities in Eastern Europe were derailed by these political decisions.

Speaker 1

Ex items, first quarter twenty twenty five operating margins in Production Enhancement were 8%, expanding by four fifty basis points sequentially. This sequential improvement in margins was primarily driven by increased demand for high margin diagnostic services in The U. S. Diagnostic services saw greater demand applications as well completions are becoming more complex. The segment also benefited from some catch up work in the Gulf Of Mexico on well completions that were rescheduled following hurricane related delays last summer.

Speaker 1

In addition, operational efficiencies and reduced expenses in product manufacturing are also starting to improve financial performance. In line with our stated financial strategy, after funding our dividend, Core continued to strengthen its balance sheet. During the first quarter, Core's net debt was reduced by approximately $5,000,000 and our leverage ratio remained at its lowest level in eight years. In addition to paying our quarterly dividend, Core Lab returned excess free cash to shareholders by repurchasing nearly 132,000 shares of company stock during the first quarter, a value of $2,000,000 We will continue to focus on reducing debt and strengthening our balance sheet while evaluating other opportunistic uses of free cash to improve shareholder value. As we look ahead, Core will continue to execute on its key strategic objectives by: one, introducing new product and service offerings in key geographic markets two, maintaining a lean and focused organization and three, maintaining our commitments to delevering the company and returning excess free cash to shareholders.

Speaker 1

Now to review Core Lab's strategies and the financial tenets that the company has used to build shareholder value over our twenty nine year history as a publicly traded company. The interests of our shareholders, clients and employees will always be well served by Core Lab's resilient culture, which relies on innovation, leveraging technology to solve problems and dedicated customer service. I will talk more about some of our latest innovations in the operational review section of this call. While we continue to pursue growth opportunities, the company will remain focused on its three long standing, long term financial tenets, those being to maximize free cash flow, maximize return on invested capital and returning excess free cash to our shareholders. I'll now turn it over to Chris for the detailed financial review.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Larry. Before we review the financial performance for the quarter, the guidance we gave on our last call and past calls specifically excluded the impact of any FX gains or losses and assumed an effective tax rate 25%. So accordingly, our discussion today excludes any foreign exchange gain or loss for current and prior periods. Additionally, the financial results for the first quarter of twenty twenty five includes a charge of $3,500,000 for non cash stock compensation expense associated with future vesting of performance shares for certain employees who have reached eligible retirement age. We also recorded a cost of $3,400,000 associated with employee severance and additional cost to exit certain facilities as we continue to optimize our global footprint.

Speaker 3

These items have also been excluded from the discussion of our financial results. So looking at the income statement, revenue was $123,600,000 in the first quarter, down 4% compared to the prior quarter and down 5% year over year. Core Lab will typically experience a seasonal decline in revenue from the fourth quarter to the first quarter of each year. However, as Larry mentioned, the first quarter of twenty twenty five was also negatively impacted by the expanded sanctions announced in January, which I will discuss further in our overview of service revenue. However, the sequential decline in revenue was somewhat offset by growth in reservoir rock and fluid analytical programs in certain international regions and our completion diagnostic services also had strong growth in both The U.

Speaker 3

S. And international markets. Of this revenue, service revenue, which is more international, $95,100,000 for the quarter, down 1% sequentially and year over year. Our service revenue associated with crude assay services in some international regions continues to be impacted and disrupted due to the ongoing geopolitical conflicts and the associated sanctions that were expanded. Once the expanded sanctions were announced in January, we saw a decrease in demand for crude assay services which continued throughout February, but then improved somewhat as we exited the quarter.

Speaker 3

Strong growth in The U. S. And certain international regions for well completion diagnostic services helped offset some of the seasonal decline we normally see in the first quarter and the negative impact caused by the expanded sanctions. Product sales, which are more equally tied to North America and international activity, were $28,500,000 for the quarter, down 13% sequentially and down 14% year over year. Our international product sales are typically larger bulk orders and can vary from one quarter to another.

Speaker 3

Product sales were also impacted by the expanded sanctions as one large international order for 1,100,000 scheduled for delivery in February had to be suspended. Additionally, we had some large laboratory instrumentation sales that were originally scheduled to be delivered in the first quarter but were delayed into the second quarter. Sequentially, the lower international product sales were partially offset by a higher level of product sales in The U. S. Land market.

Speaker 3

Moving on to cost of services, ex items, for the quarter was approximately 77% of service revenue, up slightly from 76% in the prior quarter and flat compared to last year. Sequential increase is primarily due to absorption of fixed costs on lower revenue in the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to last quarter. For the remainder of 2025, we anticipate service revenue to grow with growth primarily coming from certain international markets. Cost of sales ex items in the first quarter was 91% of revenue, up slightly compared to 90% last quarter and 93% last year. The sequential increase was due to higher absorption of fixed costs on lower revenue in the quarter, partially offset by reductions to our cost structure and improved manufacturing efficiencies.

Speaker 3

We anticipate improvement in the manufacturing absorption rate in future quarters, in line with projected growth in product sales. G and A ex items for the quarter was $10,100,000 a slight increase from $9,900,000 in the prior quarter. For 2025, we expect G and A ex items to be approximately 40,000,000 to $42,000,000 Depreciation and amortization for the quarter was $3,700,000 flat compared to the last quarter. EBIT, ex items for the quarter, was $11,800,000 which decreased compared to $15,700,000 last quarter and yielding an EBIT margin of approximately 10%. Our EBIT for the quarter on a GAAP basis was $4,400,000 Interest expense of $2,600,000 remained relatively flat compared to the prior quarter, but has decreased from $3,400,000 last year due to lower borrowings on the credit facility.

Speaker 3

Income tax expense at an effective tax rate of 25% and ex items was $2,300,000 for the quarter. On a GAAP basis, we recorded a tax expense of $1,700,000 for the quarter. The first quarter tax expense includes approximately $1,400,000 of discrete items primarily associated with changes in estimates as we finalize the return for certain tax jurisdictions. The effective tax rate will continue to be somewhat sensitive to the geographic mix of earnings across the globe and the impact of items discrete to each quarter. We continue to project the company's effective tax rate to be approximately 25%.

Speaker 3

Net income, ex items, for the quarter was $6,700,000 a decrease from $10,400,000 in the prior quarter and from $8,900,000 in the first quarter of last year. On a GAAP basis, we had a net loss of $200,000 for the quarter. Earnings per diluted share, ex items, was $0.14 for the quarter, a decrease from $0.22 in the prior quarter and $0.19 from last year. On a GAAP basis, we had a slight loss, which rounds to zero on a per share basis. Turning to the balance sheet.

Speaker 3

Receivables were $117,000,000 and increased approximately $5,300,000 from prior quarter. Our DSOs for the first quarter were at seventy nine days, up from the seventy six days last quarter. The increase was primarily driven by the timing of billings during the quarter, which started out slow and finished strong. We anticipate that our DSO will improve in future quarters. Inventory at March 3025 was $59,000,000 slightly down from last quarter end and down approximately $11,700,000 year over year.

Speaker 3

Inventory turns for the quarter were at 1.8. And with continued focus, we anticipate inventory turns will gradually improve and inventory levels will continue to decline as we progress through the remainder of 2025. And now to the liability side of the balance sheet. Our long term debt was $126,000,000 at the end of the first quarter. And considering cash of $22,100,000 net debt was $103,900,000 which decreased $4,900,000 from last quarter.

Speaker 3

Our leverage ratio remained at 1.31 unchanged from last quarter end. The company will remain focused on executing its strategic business initiatives while also further reducing its leverage ratio. Our debt is currently comprised of our senior notes at $110,000,000 and $16,000,000 outstanding under our bank credit facility. Our credit facility has a borrowing capacity of $135,000,000 of which approximately $108,000,000 was still available as of 03/31/2025. Looking at cash flow for the first quarter of twenty twenty five, five, cash flow from operating activities was approximately $6,700,000 and after paying $2,800,000 of CapEx, our free cash flow for the quarter was $3,900,000 Cash from operations was impacted by an increase in working capital as accounts receivable grew by $5,300,000 during the quarter.

Speaker 3

The growth in accounts receivable occurred in March, reflecting a higher level of sales as we exited the quarter. In February 2024, fire damaged one building on the campus of the company's Advanced Technology Centre in Aberdeen, Scotland. Losses and damages caused by the fire are covered by Core Lab's insurance programs. The insurance proceeds and the capital expenditures associated with replacing the equipment and restoring the building are disclosed separately in the investing section of the cash flow statement. These items are not included in the calculation of free cash flow.

Speaker 3

As we indicated in our last call, we expect CapEx to modestly expand in 2025 compared to 2024, and we will continue to manage investment in working capital. Additionally, we expect CapEx to remain aligned with activity levels, and for the full year 2025, we expect capital expenditures to be in the range of 14,000,000 to $16,000,000 The forecast for capital expenditures excludes the CapEx associated with rebuilding and replacing of The U. K. Facility and equipment that was mentioned earlier as these will be covered by the company's insurance program. Will continue its strict capital discipline and asset light business model with capital expenditures primarily targeted at growth opportunities.

Speaker 3

Core Lab's operational leverage continues to provide the ability to grow revenue and profitability with minimal capital requirements. Capital expenditures have historically ranged from 2.5% to 4% of revenue even during periods of significant growth. That same level of laboratory infrastructure, intellectual property and leverage exists in the business today. We believe evaluating a company's ability to generate free cash flow and free cash flow yield is an important metric for shareholders when comparing and projecting companies' financial results, particularly for those shareholders who utilize discounted cash flow models to assess valuations. I will now turn it over to Gwen for an update on our guidance and outlook.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Chris. Turning to our outlook. Recent tariffs announced by The U. S. Along with OPEC's decision to increase oil production have resulted decline in crude oil prices.

Speaker 2

The uncertainty of demand for crude oil caused by ongoing trade negotiations, combined with the OPEC plus announcement of increased production quotas, has raised the likelihood of crude oil inventory levels will rise. We maintain our constructive long term outlook on international upstream projects for the remainder of 2025 and beyond. The IEA, EIA, and OPEC plus continue to forecast growth in crude oil demand to be between 700,001,300,000 barrels per day for

Operator

2025.

Speaker 2

This demand is mainly driven by non OECD countries in Asia, India, emerging markets in The Middle East, and Africa. Outside The U. S, large scale international oil and gas projects are expected to be more resilient to the near term volatility of crude oil prices. We see international project activity to be steady with committed long term upstream projects from the South Atlantic margin, North And West Africa, Norway, The Middle East, and certain areas of Asia Pacific. The company believes that activity levels associated with smaller scale short cycle crude oil development projects will be more sensitive to the decrease and or continued volatility of crude oil prices.

Speaker 2

As such, changes in crude oil prices are anticipated to have greater impact on drilling and completion activity levels in The US onshore market. Turning to the recent tariff announcements. We believe the proposed tariffs will not apply to the vast majority of service revenue and product sales provided by the company. Our services account for over 75% of the company's total revenue and are currently not subject to tariffs. Forest product sales have been less than 25% of total revenue and are primarily manufactured in The US.

Speaker 2

Import tariffs would not apply to approximately 50% of these products as they are consumed in The US drilling and completion market. Products manufactured in The US and delivered to international clients may attract tariffs depending on the outcome of international trade negotiations. And last, certain raw materials imported and used in the company's US manufacturing of products may attract import tariffs applied by The US. The company is currently taking steps to mitigate the impact of potential tariffs. Now to our second quarter twenty twenty five segment and company guidance.

Speaker 2

Reservoir Description's second quarter revenue is projected to range from 85,000,000 to 89,000,000, representing a nice improvement of 5% to 10% growth and operating income of 11,000,000 to 13,000,000. Production enhancement second quarter revenue is estimated to range from 43,000,000 to 45,000,000, and this represents low to mid single digit growth with operating income of 2,000,000 to 2,600,000.0. In summary, our second quarter twenty twenty five revenue is projected to range from 128,000,000 to 134,000,000 with operating income of 13,100,000.0 to 15,700,000.0, yielding operating margins of approximately 11%. EPS for the second quarter of twenty twenty five is expected to range from $0.17 to $0.21 The company's second quarter twenty twenty five guidance is based on projections for underlying operations operations and excludes gains and losses in foreign exchange. Although the first quarter of twenty twenty five includes discrete items which decrease the effective tax rate, the company projects the effective tax rate to be approximately 25% for 2025.

Speaker 2

Our second quarter guidance also assumes an effective tax rate of 25%. With that, I'll turn it back over to Larry.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Gwen. First, I'd like to thank our global team of employees for providing innovative solutions, integrity, and superior service to our clients. The team's collective dedication to servicing our clients is the foundation of Core Lab's success. Looking at the macro, even after assessing current and near term economic conditions, IEA, EIA and OPEC all project that there will be growth in global crude oil demand in 2025. The current estimates show growth in demand of between zero point seven and one point three million barrels per day for 2025 with similar additional growth projected for 2026.

Speaker 1

As Gwen mentioned, this growth is driven mainly by strong non OECD demand. In addition to the forecasted growth in demand, new production will need to be brought online to account for the natural decline from existing producing fields. Combined, these factors will require continued investment in the development of onshore and offshore crude oil fields. Furthermore, the EIA forecasts for US oil production remains at 13,500,000 barrels per day for 2025, up slightly from 13,200,000 barrels per day in 2024. Beyond that, very little growth is forecast between 2025 and 2026.

Speaker 1

Excluding the COVID period, these forecasts for nominal year over year production growth would represent the smallest annual adds to U. S. Oil production since 2018. U. S.

Speaker 1

Tight oil production has been by far the largest component of non OPEC production growth since 2010. Continued growth in global oil demand combined with slowing year over year U. S. Oil production growth supports the thesis that future crude oil demand will be largely met from international, conventional, offshore discoveries and developments, all trends that bode well for increasing demand for the reservoir description services that we provide through our global lab network. We project this international cycle will play out for the next several years and perhaps longer as growth in U.

Speaker 1

S. Oil production peaks. Production enhancement, in addition to its exposure to The U. S. Land market, also has expanding opportunities across international markets such as with unconventional plays in The Middle East and emerging onshore and offshore conventional plays in a number of regions.

Speaker 1

Core Lab also continues to expand its portfolio of innovative offerings for perforating applications, plug in abandonment operations and completion diagnostics for our growing global client base. Now let's review the first quarter performance of our two business segments. Turning first to Reservoir Description. For the first quarter of twenty twenty five, revenue came in at $80,900,000 down 7% compared to Q4 of twenty twenty four. For Q1, operating income for Reservoir Description ex items was 7,800,000.0 down from $14,100,000 in Q4, but still yielding operating margins of 10%.

Speaker 1

While continued demand for Reservoir Description Lab services remained strong in several regions across our global network, the ongoing international, geopolitical conflicts and recently expanded sanctions negatively impacted the demand for laboratory services tied to the trade and transportation of crude oil and derived products. These political headwinds were on top of the typical seasonal declines that typically occur as incline activity from Q4 to Q1. Now for some operational highlights from Reservoir Description. Core sees emerging opportunities across Africa for its Reservoir Description Laboratory services. These opportunities include project work on new onshore and offshore exploration targets, as well as workover projects on mature fields.

Speaker 1

In addition, there are growth opportunities for laboratory assay work on crude oil and derived products across a region poised for significant growth in hydrocarbon demand. In Q1, Core Laboratories reinforced its role as a key partner in Libya's upstream sector, demonstrating its commitment through strategic collaboration and innovation. With political and operational stability emerging in Libya, the country is now ready to utilize its vast resources to meet its ambitious hydrocarbon production growth targets. In the first quarter of twenty twenty five, Core Lab specialists from both Reservoir Description and Production Enhancement hosted a technical topical workshop for the Libyan market. This event provided cross disciplinary insights and solutions to the geotechnical challenges faced by Libyan operators.

Speaker 1

Discussions with the Libyan National Oil Company and the Petroleum Research Center, as well as various operators highlighted Core Lab's ability to offer tailored solutions to support Libya's production growth targets. Through the numerous joint industry and proprietary projects that Core Lab has led over the years, the company has developed detailed knowledge of Libya's onshore and offshore sedimentary basins and hydrocarbon bearing formations. Core is well positioned to leverage this knowledge and engage with clients as new opportunities unfold. Reservoir Description will help clients reduce subsurface uncertainty, establish critical parameters for reservoir models, and assess formation damage. Core's production enhancement products and services will address operational challenges from legacy production and mature fields, optimizing future completion strategies and help in the development of enhanced oil recovery and waterflood programs.

Speaker 1

Moving now to production enhancement, where Core Lab's technologies continue to help our clients optimize their well completions and improve production. Revenue for production enhancement for Q1 came in at 42,700,000.0 flat compared to Q4 and down 6% year over year. First quarter operating income for production enhancement ex items was $3,400,000 yielding operating margins of 8%. While product sales were negatively impacted by recently enhanced sanctions that prohibited transactions with certain designated entities in Eastern Europe, there was increased demand for completion diagnostic services as complex U. S.

Speaker 1

Land completion designs like trimal fracs have become more common. Furthermore, Gulf Of Mexico completion diagnostics on offshore projects that were delayed by hurricanes last summer were conducted in Q1. Now for some operational highlights for production enhancement, at the start of Q1, an international operating company approached Core Laboratories production enhancement team with an urgent request for assistance on a unique and very challenging well abandonment program. The program required the use of CORE's proprietary HERO Hard Rock Perforating Charges, the company's industry leading deep penetration technology. On this project due to collapsed tubing, there were no options available to deploy a plug and abandonment strategy into the existing wellbore.

Speaker 1

The operator chose a method in which a parallel well had to be drilled in close proximity to the target well, allowing perforations from the new parallel penetrate through the intervening strata and into the problematic target well. This approach needed to ensure that the perforating system could successfully create long reach perf tunnels from the new well into the casing and inner tubing of the target well. Utilizing Core's state of the art ROC Lab test facility, a series of tests were designed to evaluate the selected perforating system under simulated downhole stress conditions. This allowed the customer to determine how closely the two wellbores needed to spaced in order to guarantee that the perforating system would penetrate through all of the pipe, cement and rock barriers with sufficient hole size to allow for cement placement. Under extremely tight time constraints, the production enhancement team was able to design and conduct a testing program, mobilized all of the hardware to the international rig location and successfully carry out the job in the first quarter of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1

Positive feedback from the operator confirmed the abandonment program succeeded and met all of the operational and regulatory requirements. Also in production enhancement, recently, the U. S. Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement officially endorsed CORE SpectraStim tracers to identify top of cement in multiple casing strings as confirmed by logging while drilling technologies. Tracing the top of cement using SpectraStim tracers has significant advantages over other approved methods such as cement bond logging, including a cost savings of approximately $400,000 per casing string.

Speaker 1

In the first quarter of twenty twenty five, top of cement was confirmed by Core's SpectraStim tracers in a record six cemented casing strings on a Gulf Of Mexico well. In the process, the operator saved over $2,000,000 compared with a traditional cement bond log alternative. Core is working to expand the service in other offshore regions. That concludes our operational review. We appreciate your participation and Andrea will now open the call for questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press then 2. To ask a question.

Operator

And our first question will come from Steven Gengaro of Stifel. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Good morning. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Evan. Thanks for all the details.

Speaker 4

Can we start with production enhancement? First quarter margin was pretty strong off the fourth quarter, but despite modest what seems to be modest revenue growth, you're guiding margin down 200 or 300 basis points. Can you just kind of talk about what's going on the margin front with PE?

Speaker 3

Sure, Steven. So this is Chris. We had improvement in both segments in the margins coming off of Q4. But the product sales, are down and the diagnostic services, which have a higher margin, are up in Q1. And so I think you heard Larry and I both mention that some of the projects in the Gulf Of Mexico were impacted by the storms that came through there in Q3 last year.

Speaker 3

Those got postponed to Q1, and those came through. And we're not forecasting that level of, in the Gulf Of Mexico for Q2. So diagnostic services are kind of coming down and product sales are increasing in Q2. So it's a different mix when you look at Q1 versus Q2.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. Thanks. And then the other just question, when you're sort of thinking about the back half of the year, I know that the number of moving pieces is greater than usual, but is there any way to think about sort of your expectations for margin progression in the back half of the year? And if even we thought about like an environment where activity or the business was flattish from the second quarter, are there levers to pull on the margin side or would we be pretty stable from the 2Q levels without much growth?

Speaker 1

Yeah. So I think it's fair to say, Steven, that Q1 looks like it's in the rearview mirror for us with the weight of those sanctions that kind of just dropped on us in January and when that happens, it kind of froze the trading activity and the demand for the assay work just sort of comes to a halt temporarily. Nobody wants to get caught on the wrong side of a trade there while there's so much volatility in the market. As mentioned earlier in the comments, we did see things start to open up and trading get back to normal and the associated demand for those assay services pick up late in the quarter. So, I don't think there's we're going to see any retrenchment back to what we saw in Q1.

Speaker 1

And I think from Q2 forward, I think there's opportunity for growth in margins over what we're projecting for Q2. So I think Q3 and Q4 looking at the moment, better for us than Q2.

Speaker 3

The only thing I would add there too is we have put some cost reduction plans in place, which we've kind of recognized most of the cost for that in Q1. Some of those were implemented in Q1. Some of those will take more effect in Q2. And actually, some additional ones are scheduled for Q3. So I think we'll see some margin improvement from that as well.

Operator

Steven?

Speaker 4

I was muted, I'm sorry. One quick follow-up is maybe not so quick, but the peers in the space are sort of centering around U. S. Activity down 10% to 15% this year and maybe international flat to down modestly. A, do you think that's a reasonable starting point?

Speaker 4

And B, how do you think you perform relative to those expectations?

Speaker 1

So I think as our view on US land is flat or soft compared to last year, but maybe up from what we saw think So, that's things are unfolding there. So, I think maybe we're a little more optimistic about how the back of the year plays out for us in terms of penetration into U. S.

Speaker 1

Land than say pressure pumpers and some of the other folks.

Speaker 3

I think as far as activity goes though, it definitely softened at the end of last year, let's say the second half. And as we're looking at it, we think it's going be more in line with the second half of last year.

Speaker 1

And then I think on our international, we've got some opportunities on the international side. And if you've got any sway with the people that are dropping sanctions and tariffs, make those calls for us, Stephen. And hopefully, have some hardware made in the boxes ready to ship and all of a sudden told, no, can't go.

Speaker 4

Yep. It's a tough environment. Yeah. Okay. No, that's helpful color.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thanks, David. Thanks. Appreciate it. Thanks.

Operator

Next question comes from Sean Mitchell of Daniel Energy Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the I'm going to kind of stay on the same theme that Steven was kind of digging into your crystal ball a little bit. Last quarter, you talked about Mexico being a place that may not look so great on a go forward basis. And now we're actually seeing that from a lot of your peers in the oilfield service market. Mexico, everyone's taking guidance down there pretty hard.

Speaker 5

Is there any area out in the international market? I mean, we've already talked to U. S. Is there any other areas in the international market you guys see maybe trouble in the future? I mean, you talked a little bit about new client engagements in The Middle East and Africa, and maybe expand on that a little bit.

Speaker 5

Is that kind of back half of 'twenty five stuff with those new clients? Or is that kind of later, 'twenty six, 'twenty seven?

Speaker 1

Yeah, so first thing on Mexico, just to be clear, we got out. I'm not saying we had any special omnipotence there, but it just was a challenging market for us. And I think maybe it turns out we were the patterns that we saw maybe are starting to hit on some other folks and they're having to deal with some of that. So, Mexico doesn't necessarily apply to us. We'll sell products and services into there, but we're gonna have to do that if they come to us out of The US.

Speaker 1

I think internationally, it looks pretty good for us in The Middle East. I think Africa is a long term play for us. I do think we'll see some progress there in the back half of twenty twenty five, but I think it's a multi year growth cycle for us on reservoir description in particular and then I think the production enhancement opportunities there will probably grow a little bit later. I think one of the things we're hearing from our operational guys, and so I went through the Asia Pac region early in the quarter, earlier in the quarter, mid quarter, and got a lot of confirmation about project work that we're seeing. I think that was mentioned in the release there.

Speaker 1

So, looks real good. Indonesia looks good for us. Malaysia looks a little bit soft. One other area that I'd say we're kinda keeping an eye on here is it seems a pretty inhospitable environment in Colombia right now. The, again, political decisions there are affecting our clients' plans and behaviors and we're not going be immune to the slowdown in activity.

Speaker 1

It looks like Ecuador may be moving in the right direction with the political decisions that the people down there have made and so I think maybe there's a chance for some rebound there. And in The Middle East, we see it as strong for us still this year. I'm actually headed over next week. I'll go through Middle East round and meet with operators and NOCs in a handful of countries. All conversations so far are full steam ahead and steady as we go on the projects that they've committed to us.

Speaker 5

Then lastly Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yep. Just one other one. We're still optimistic about Brazil. I know there's going to be challenges there. I always view Brazil as sort of not a straight line linear opportunity, but I think it's going to be a place where we're gonna see, I'll call it gradual improvement in our penetration of that market over time.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's great. Thanks for the additional color. I'll turn it back.

Speaker 4

Sure.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Sean.

Speaker 1

Okay. I think it's a pretty busy day for earnings call. So if there are no other questions, we'll wrap up here. In summary, Core's operational leadership continues to position the company for improving client activity levels in the coming quarters. We have never been better operationally or technologically positioned to help our global client base optimize their reservoirs and to address their evolving needs.

Speaker 1

We remain uniquely focused and are the most technologically advanced client focused reservoir optimization company in the oilfield service sector. The company will remain focused on maximizing free cash and returns on invested capital. In addition to our quarterly dividends, we'll bring value to our shareholders via growth opportunities driven by both the introduction of problem solving technologies and new market penetration. In the near term, Core will continue to use free cash to strengthen its balance sheet while always investing in growth opportunities and evaluating various methods to increase shareholder value, including returning excess free cash to our shareholders. So in closing, we thank and appreciate all of our shareholders and the analysts that cover Core Lab, the executive management team and the Board of Core Laboratories give a special thanks to our worldwide employees that have made these results possible.

Speaker 1

We're proud to be associated with their continuing achievements. So thanks for spending time with us and we look forward to the next update. Goodbye for now.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect.

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Earnings Conference Call
Core Laboratories Q1 2025
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