Verizon Communications Q2 2025 Earnings Report

Verizon Communications EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $1.22
• Consensus EPS: $1.19
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$0.03
• One Year Ago EPS: $1.15

Verizon Communications Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $34.50 billion
• Expected Revenue: $33.47 billion
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$1.03 billion
• YoY Revenue Growth: +5.20%

Verizon Communications Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q2 2025
• Date: 7/21/2025
• Time: Before Market Opens
• Conference Call Date: Monday, July 21, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 8:30AM ET

Verizon Communications (NYSE:VZ), through its subsidiaries, engages in the provision of communications, technology, information, and entertainment products and services to consumers, businesses, and governmental entities worldwide. It operates in two segments, Verizon Consumer Group (Consumer) and Verizon Business Group (Business). The Consumer segment provides wireless services across the wireless networks in the United States under the Verizon and TracFone brands and through wholesale and other arrangements; and fixed wireless access (FWA) broadband through its wireless networks, as well as related equipment and devices, such as smartphones, tablets, smart watches, and other wireless-enabled connected devices. The segment also offers wireline services in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeastern United States, as well as Washington D.C. through its fiber-optic network, Verizon Fios product portfolio, and a copper-based network. The Business segment provides wireless and wireline communications services and products, including FWA broadband, data, video and conferencing, corporate networking, security and managed network, local and long-distance voice, and network access services to deliver various IoT services and products to businesses, government customers, and wireless and wireline carriers in the United States and internationally. The company was formerly known as Bell Atlantic Corporation and changed its name to Verizon Communications Inc. in June 2000. Verizon Communications Inc. was incorporated in 1983 and is headquartered in New York, New York.

Verizon Communications Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: Verizon delivered robust Q2 results with wireless service revenue up 2.2% to $20.9B, adjusted EBITDA rising 4.1% to $12.8B, and free cash flow of $5.2B, leading to raised full-year guidance.
• Positive Sentiment: Operational momentum continued with 300K net additions across mobility and broadband, core prepaid adding subscribers for a fourth straight quarter, fixed wireless surpassing 5 million users, and C-band and fiber deployments ahead of schedule.
• Negative Sentiment: Postpaid phone churn remained elevated at 0.9% due to recent pricing actions and federal account pressures, prompting AI-powered customer experience initiatives and enhanced value guarantees to improve retention.
• Positive Sentiment: The Frontier acquisition remains on track for an early 2026 close after securing regulatory approvals, expected to accelerate Verizon’s fiber expansion and convergence strategy.
• Positive Sentiment: Recent tax reform is projected to boost 2025 free cash flow by $1.5–2 billion, supporting Verizon’s capital allocation priorities of dividend growth, debt reduction, and future share buybacks.

Presentation

[Operator]

Good morning, and welcome to Verizon's Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen only mode and the call will be opened for questions following the presentation. Today's conference is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Brady Connor, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Thanks, Brad. Good morning, and welcome to our second quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. I'm Brady Connor, and on the call with me this morning are Hans Vetzberg, Vesberg, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Tony Schiadis, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to draw your attention to our Safe Harbor statement, which can be found at the start of the investor presentation posted on our Investor Relations website. Information in this presentation contains statements about expected future events and financial results that are forward looking and subject to risks and uncertainties.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Discussions of factors that may affect future results is contained in Verizon's filings with the SEC, which are available on our Investor Relations website. This presentation contains certain non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in the financial materials posted on our website. Earlier this morning, information on our second quarter results and supplemental materials relating to today's call were posted to our Investor Relations website. With that, I'll turn it over to Hans.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our earnings call of the second quarter twenty twenty five. Our performance in the first half of the year highlighted by a strong second quarter demonstrates that our strategy is working. We remain committed to disciplined execution and customer centric innovation. We're growing profitable connections and the value of our customer relationships. While we always see opportunities to improve, I'm confident in the future of our business.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Our financial performance was strong this quarter with a market leading wireless service revenue of $20,900,000,000 up 2.2 from last year. We delivered adjusted EBITDA of $12,800,000,000 up 4.1% year over year, setting another record for the best reported quarter and the second consecutive quarter with growth exceeding our guided range for the year. Strong profitability drove free cash flow of $5,200,000,000 for the quarter. This brings our year to date free cash flow to $8,800,000,000 an increase of over $300,000,000 compared to the first half of twenty twenty four. Our cash flow from operation underscores the strength of our business and provide us flexibility to execute on our capital allocation priorities, which remain unchanged.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

As a result, we continue to lead the industry with a nation's best network. Our segmented market strategy, which is diverse portfolio of offerings, is resonating with our customers. Our customer first offerings such as My Plan, My Home and the new My Biz Plan, along with our best value guarantee, drove significant sales momentum. We're also deploying AI powered innovations to enhance customer experience on the nation's best network. On the infrastructure front, our execution is outpacing our targets.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

C band deployment is ahead of schedule. Our fixed wireless base has surpassed 5,000,000,000 subscribers, and our fiber build is tracking ahead of its plan. This demonstrates disciplined execution across our entire portfolio. Given our financial performance and the momentum in the first half of the year, we are raising our full year guidance for adjusted EBITA and adjusted EPS. We're also raising our guidance for free cash flow for the year, driven by our strong cash flow from operations and further supported by the positive impact from the tax reform.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Tony will provide you with more details shortly. Now let's turn to our operational performance. In the second quarter, we delivered over 300,000 net additions across our Mobility and Broadband platforms. In mobility, we delivered year over year improvements in the combined postpaid and core prepaid phone net adds, including the fourth consecutive quarter of subscriber growth in core prepaid. The wireless market remains competitive, and we continue to take a strategic and segmented approach, maintaining our financial discipline.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

As expected, postpaid phone churn remained elevated this quarter, reflecting the lingering effects of our pricing actions and ongoing pressure from federal government accounts. We're actively focused on improving retention by strengthening our value propositions and leveraging our AI powered customer experience innovations. On upgrades, after being down year over year for eight out of the last nine quarters, we saw an uptick in the second quarter driven by our best value guarantee. We continue to expect mid single digit growth in upgrade activity for the full year. Our dual fixed wireless access and fiber broadband strategy continues to drive market share gains.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

A key highlight is fixed wireless access, which surpassed the 5,000,000 subscribers milestone, keeping us firmly on the track to achieve our goal of 8,000,000 to 9,000,000 subscribers by 2028. We achieved robust broadband growth even as our C band build out expands into less dense markets and despite the softer move environment in our Fios footprint. We continue to scale our private network business, winning a landmark deal to deploy multiple private fiber networks across the Thames Freeport. This network will serve as a technology foundation for one of UK's busiest commercial corridors, fueling a multibillion dollar regeneration project with advanced capabilities like AI and real time logistics. Our AI Connect offerings are also generating strong interest.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Our sales funnel has nearly doubled to $2,000,000,000 since launch earlier this year. While these are often complex deals with longer sales cycles, we're actively engaged in several sizable opportunities. This growth highlights a surging demand for high bandwidth fiber capacity and diverse routes, both lit and dark fiber, to serve different customer needs. As AI transitions from centralized training to widespread real time application, compute power at the network edge becomes essential. Our existing infrastructure is uniquely positioned to support this evolution.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Our network is our key differentiator, consistently delivering top performance. This quarter, JD Power once again recognized Verizon for the best network quality and RootMetrix first half year twenty twenty five awards named as the nation's best, fastest and most reliable five gs network. We're building on this advantage every day. Our C band deployment is ahead of schedule and on track to cover 80% to 90 of planned sites by year end, with nearly all sites now standalone capable. Our fiber build is tracking ahead of plan, and we're positioned to deliver 650,000 incremental passings this year.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Meanwhile, the regulatory approval process for our pending acquisition of Frontier is progressing as planned. We're encouraged by Frontier's performance and look forward to closing the transaction to further accelerate our fiber expansion. As we near the closing of Frontier acquisition, we will provide a comprehensive update on our strategy, broadband expansion and capital allocation considering all stakeholders. We look forward to providing an update in the next few months. With that, I'll turn it over to Tony to go into the financials in more detail.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Thanks, Hans, and good morning. The first half of the year reaffirms the strength of our business, highlighting the effective execution of our disciplined strategy and significant progress towards achieving our financial goals. As a leading provider of essential connectivity across The U. S, we are committed to offering the best value and delivering the best service and customer experience within the industry. We are focused on driving wireless service revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth and robust free cash flow.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

The second quarter demonstrated our ability to deliver strong financial results even in the period of elevated promotional activity and broad economic uncertainty. We remain focused on high quality profitable growth, recognizing that volume growth is only valuable when aligned with our disciplined financial framework. Our goal is to improve volumes year over year, though we will not do this at the expense of delivering on our three key financial priorities. This past quarter, we achieved strong sales focusing on high quality customers without overspending for growth. Even with public sector challenges and ongoing consumer postpaid phone churn pressure, we maintained our financial discipline.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Within Consumer, second quarter postpaid phone gross additions were up sequentially and year over year. Our sales execution remains strong, leveraging our attractive value proposition, including the recent launch of the best value guarantee. As expected, we saw the residual effects of our first quarter pricing actions impact our second quarter consumer postpaid phone churn. Additionally, we continue to see elevated competitor promotional activity. As a result, second quarter consumer postpaid phone churn remained consistent with the first quarter at 0.9%.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

We have taken a series of actions to address our elevated churn. On June 24, we launched initiatives designed to improve the customer experience, including leveraging AI for more personalized support. In addition, we continue to enhance our value proposition and build customer loyalty through the best value guarantee. We provide exclusive access to the best events and experiences and our refresh app helps customers maximize the value of their plans. Mobility phone net adds, which includes both consumer and business retail postpaid as well as core prepaid were $16,000 for the second quarter.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

This represents an improvement of $25,000 from the prior year period. Consumer postpaid phone net losses totaled $51,000 for the second quarter compared to $109,000 net losses in the prior year period as we benefited from strong gross adds. Verizon business delivered 42,000 phone net adds in the second quarter compared with 135,000 net adds in the prior year period. A significant majority of the year over year decline was driven by business. Though we anticipate public sector pressures to persist in the second half of the year, we expect the impact to subside towards the end of the year.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Consistent with our wireline approach, we continue to remain disciplined and not pursue low margin wireless business or overpay for volumes. We remain confident that the team has the tools to execute effectively in the current environment and deliver healthy volumes for the full year 2025. Core prepaid net additions were $50,000 for the quarter, an improvement of 62,000 from the prior year period. This marks four consecutive quarters of positive core prepaid net adds, reflecting the strong execution of the team. The Visible, Total Wireless and Straight Talk brands continue to perform well and are progressively building a high quality business.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Overall, core prepaid ARPU rose above $32 and we have now reached an inflection point where after four quarters of volume growth, we expect prepaid to positively contribute to wireless service revenue growth for the remainder of the year. Turning to total wireless postpaid upgrades, we saw a 14% increase in the first half of the year as compared to the same period of 2024. This result was driven by a healthy initial uptake of our best value guarantee program, which is an investment in our high quality customer base. As Hans said earlier, we continue to expect upgrade activity to increase by a mid single digit percentage in 2025 as compared to 2024. Moving on to broadband, we delivered 293,000 net additions in the quarter.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

We are taking broadband share and see strong demand for both our fiber and fixed wireless access offerings even with seasonal impacts and a softer move environment as compared to prior years. In fixed wireless access, we delivered 278,000 net adds for the quarter, growing the base to more than 5,100,000 subscribers. FWA demand remains strong and we are on track to deliver our goal of 8,000,000 to 9,000,000 FWA subscribers by 2028. Fios Internet net adds for the second quarter were 32,000 versus 28,000 in the prior year period. Fios provides customers with industry leading connectivity and delivers high customer satisfaction reflected in both robust ARPU and consistently low churn rates.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

We are expanding our Fios footprint and remain on track to deliver 650,000 new passings in 2025. As we talk about Fiverr, let me provide a brief update on the pending Frontier transaction. The team is working through the necessary steps to complete the acquisition and we remain on track for an early twenty twenty six close. We have received regulatory approvals from eight states as well as the FCC and DOJ and are productively engaged with the remaining state regulatory agencies. Based on Frontier's publicly reported results, the company continues to perform extremely well and remains on track with their fiber expansion goals.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Our integration planning efforts are well underway and we anticipate a smooth transition upon the deal closing. We are looking forward to having Frontier's assets serve as an important catalyst for our fiber expansion and broadband growth acceleration. Turning to our financial results, we delivered another strong quarter. Second quarter consolidated revenue reached $34,500,000,000 up 5.2% year over year. This result was driven by solid wireless service revenue and a more than 25% increase in wireless equipment revenue.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Service and other revenue rose 1.6%. Total wireless service revenue reached $20,900,000,000 in the second quarter, a 2.2% increase year over year. Growth was driven by consumer ARPA, which rose 2.3% year over year. We realized benefits from recent pricing actions, expansion in fixed wireless access and increased revenue from perks and other adjacent services. Our robust perk offerings continue to grow at a steady pace, keeping us on track to achieve our goal of 15,000,000 parks by year end and providing a healthy contribution to service revenue.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

In addition, prepaid revenue has reached a turning point and was flat in the second quarter compared to the prior year period. We expect prepaid to positively contribute to wireless service revenue growth in the second half of the year. Overall, we are well positioned for continued service revenue growth with healthy underlying customer economics. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA in the quarter was $12,800,000,000 which is the highest we have ever reported and an increase of 4.1% compared to the prior year period. Wireless service revenue growth coupled with the benefits from cost savings initiatives more than offset the impact from the elevated upgrade activity.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Through the first half of twenty twenty five, both wireless service revenue and adjusted EBITDA are up nearly $1,000,000,000 from the prior year, reflecting strong operating leverage. Within that result, the business segment EBITDA has now grown for three consecutive quarters on a year over year basis. From a cost perspective, our voluntary separation program is now complete, generating substantial savings. In addition, we're actively pursuing opportunities within our legacy businesses. These include copper decommissioning and savings from the managed services initiative within our business segment, among other cost efficiency programs.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Adjusted EPS was $1.22 in the quarter, up 6.1 year over year, primarily due to the strength in adjusted EBITDA. Turning to our cash flow summary. Cash flow from operating activities for the first half of the year was $16,800,000,000 up more than 1% compared with the same period a year ago. CapEx for the 2025 came in at $8,000,000,000 compared to $8,100,000,000 in the prior year period. We continue to realize efficiencies in our C band deployment and Fios expansion, enabling us to effectively meet or exceed our network goals well within our capital budget.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

For the first half of the year, the net effect of cash flow from operations and CapEx resulted in free cash flow of $8,800,000,000 an increase of 3.6% compared to the same period a year ago. Net unsecured debt at the end of the quarter was $116,000,000,000 a $6,900,000,000 improvement year over year. In the first half of the year, our debt reduction was offset by non cash mark to market adjustments. Our net unsecured debt to consolidated adjusted EBITDA ratio was 2.3 times at the end of the quarter, a 0.2 times improvement year over year and in line with the prior quarter. We continue to make progress towards our long term leverage target ahead of the closing of the Frontier transaction.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Our balance sheet remains a significant strength of our organization. Notably, we have under $700,000,000 in unsecured debt maturities remaining in 2025. We will continue to focus on reducing debt ahead of completing the Frontier transaction. As Hans mentioned earlier, our capital allocation framework remains unchanged. We will continue to strategically invest in the business, enhancing our mobile and broadband networks, support a healthy and growing dividend and paying down debt towards our long term leverage target.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

As we've mentioned previously, we'll consider buybacks once we reach our leverage target. Our strong operational execution in the first half of the year coupled with favorable tax reform gives us the confidence to increase our guidance for the full year. Given the strong adjusted EBITDA performance in the first half of the year, we are increasing our full year guidance to 2.5% to 3.5 growth, an increase of approximately $125,000,000 at the midpoint. We are increasing our guidance for adjusted EPS growth to a range of 1% to 3% to reflect the new adjusted EBITDA outlook. We are raising our $20.25 free cash flow guidance to a range of $19,500,000,000 to $20,500,000,000 The increase is driven by an estimated benefit of $1,500,000,000 to $2,000,000,000 from the recently enacted tax legislation as well as the disciplined operational execution that drove our strong adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow performance in the first half of the year.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Our Wireless service revenue and CapEx guidance remains unchanged. As we get closer to the closing of the Frontier transaction, we expect to provide an update on our broadband plans as well as our capital allocation strategy. In summary, we have a resilient business model with high quality customer base and continue to execute well in both mobility and broadband. Our second quarter financial performance reflects our disciplined approach to growth and we are well positioned to deliver on our improved outlook in the second half of the year. With that, I will turn the call back over to Hans.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Thank you, Tony. Our strong first half results reaffirm our confidence in Verizon's strategy. Our strategic execution and the ongoing momentum across our business underpin our decision to raise full year guidance. Our focus remains clear. We are committed to growing wireless service revenue, expanding adjusted EBITDA and generating strong free cash flow.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

We will achieve this through three key priorities. First, building on the network leadership to create compelling customer offerings that accelerate growth in our mobility and broadband businesses. Secondly, maintaining operational excellence and financial discipline across the organization. Thirdly, scaling our next generation platforms from capturing new enterprise opportunities with private networks to enabling AI at scale and unlocking new revenue streams from our existing assets. The opportunities ahead are significant, and a pending frontier acquisition will accelerate our fiber strategy.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Verizon's unique market position and the essential nature of our services are fundamental to empowering individuals, businesses and society. Verizon has the assets, the strategy, and most importantly, the team to deliver sustainable long term growth. We're excited about the opportunities ahead. With that, Brady, it's time for Q and A.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Thanks, Hans. Brad, we're ready for questions.

[Operator]

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your touch tone phone. Please unmute your phone and record your name clearly when prompted. Your name is required to introduce your question. If at any point your question has been answered or you would like to withdraw your request, you may remove yourself by pressing star two.

[Operator]

One moment for the first question. The first question will come from Ben Swinburne of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead, sir.

[Benjamin Swinburne, Head of U.S Media Research at Morgan Stanley]

Thank you. Good morning. I want to ask about free cash flow kind of capital allocation and then also the outlook for Consumer Wireless. Hans and Tony, you guys have meaningfully more cash flow to play with now. I know you said 1,000,000,000 point dollars to 2,000,000,000 this year.

[Benjamin Swinburne, Head of U.S Media Research at Morgan Stanley]

I think these tax benefits continue beyond 25,000,000,000 What's the best use of incremental capital at Verizon from your perspective? I know you laid out your priorities, but can you help us think about your ambition to get to buy back sooner, build more fiber faster, etcetera, etcetera? And then on the consumer wireless front, should we still expect consumer net add improvement postpaid net add improvement in 2025 versus 2024? I don't think that was reiterated on the prepared remarks. And maybe you could talk a little bit about the churn outlook in the second half where you'll be moving beyond the price increases and so whether we should still be expecting kind of churn normalization? Thanks so much.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Thank you. Let me start with the capital allocation. I think your comments and question there is more than valid. As you saw, we raised our guidance for free cash flow partly because of our cash flow from operation is improving, but also the tax reform that we indicated how much it is. As I said before, I mean, capital allocation priorities are unchanged.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

I mean, it's first of all in our business and we have increased the CapEx this year compared to 2024. Dividend, of course, eighteen years of increase. We want to put the Board in a position to continue to grow. We paid down our debt. We paid down our debt again with almost $3,000,000,000 in the first half, and then it will be buybacks.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Now we are in a situation where we are just about or in the couple of months from now in the beginning of next year closing Frontier. So what I said in my prepared remarks is, I want to get a holistic view on all the capital allocation. I mean, how we're going to invest in fiber, what synergies we see, how we're going to do the capital allocation priorities. But clearly, the tax reform is helping us to get faster to the priorities we have. So we feel good about that.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

But let me come back to that, so I think we can give you a holistic view on capital allocation. But clearly, we are very excited about Frontier. The performance is great. The synergies are great. And of course, the convergence and the fiber opportunities are also great.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

So very excited for that. And so far, Frontier has performed really good. On the wireless consumer, I think that our ambition, as was outlined by Samper in the beginning of the year, doing better this year is still valid. I mean, there's no difference on that. However, we're going to continue to be very financially disciplined.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

For us, we will not sacrifice our financials, but you're still getting a net adds if it doesn't make sense, if it's too expensive. You saw us in the fourth quarter last year being aggressive because we saw the opportunities of creating and gaining a lot of high quality customers. You saw our gross adds in the second quarter. So it all depends where the market is and where we go. But ultimately, our goal is to increase our service revenue and then expand our EBITDA and cash flow.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

That's our main KPIs. And then on churn, Tony will probably chime in on all of this. But on churn, expected in the second quarter was elevated coming from the price ups, but also from the competitive environment. I think the whole industry is up. Sampad put in a lot of very important churn measurements, 06/24 that now is twiddling going through our system, all our AI empowered customer service impacting.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

So very encouraged about what the team is doing and how they are working on the loyalty and retention of our customers. So that's all a little bit. Tony will chime in on all three, I guess.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Yes. Thanks Hans. Good morning, Ben. So a couple of things on churn. Obviously, we're focused on reducing churn in a financially disciplined manner.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

And as Hans mentioned, we have a great value proposition with the Verizon value guarantee and also MyBiz on the business side. We have further deployment of C band. We said we're going get to 80% to 90% of C band this year deployed and we see lower churn where C band is deployed. And then the work that Hans mentioned on customer experience, we did a CX launch on June 24 and that work is also augmented by AI and we expect to see improvements there. And then obviously convergence will also reduce mobility churn.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

And the team has the retention tools to get there and they're focused on it. And then one other comment just on tax reform as your question around looking ahead, we're not going to guide on 2026, but the extensions of bonus and R and E are permanent. So while we won't guide on '26, I would expect that the impacts in 2026 would be significant.

[Benjamin Swinburne, Head of U.S Media Research at Morgan Stanley]

Yeah, thanks so much.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Yeah, thanks, Ben. Brad, we're ready for the next question.

[Operator]

The next question comes from John Hodulik of UBS. Your line is open, sir.

[John Hodulik, Telecom & Cable Analyst at UBS Group]

Great, thanks. Good morning, guys. Two if I can. First, looks like you saw further deceleration in postpaid ARPA growth. Can you just talk a little bit about the drivers that are causing that deceleration?

[John Hodulik, Telecom & Cable Analyst at UBS Group]

And then a follow-up on one of the comments, upgrade rates in the teens in the first half and you expect mid single digits for the year. What's the driver of the what would suggest to be pretty rapid deceleration in the upgrades? Thanks.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Thank you. On the postpaid ARPA, I think, again, I mean, we have been growing our ARPA for a long time and we continue to do. We have many levers in there all the way from our broadband, my step ups, only 50% of our customers on my plan. We have the adjacent services. You heard when we had our prepared remarks on our perks basically doubling this year up to 15,000,000 perks.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

So we have a lot of drivers for it. So we still believe that we have a good run rate on that. On the upgrades, as you articulated, we have been down eight quarters of the last nine when it comes to upgrades for many reasons. This quarter, we put in, first of all, a couple of incentives for customers to upgrade. So that was so that's why we saw it a bit higher.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

But remember, when we talk about the mid single digits, that's both business and consumer. That's the total investments we're having in growth in upgrades. Yes.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

And then just a couple of other points on the upgrades. I mean, we absorbed the higher upgrades. The upgrades were up 30% year over year and we still produced strong EBITDA and cash flow in the quarter. So we had good operating leverage across the board there.

[John Hodulik, Telecom & Cable Analyst at UBS Group]

Great, thank you.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Okay, yeah, thanks. Thanks, John. Brad, we're ready for the next question.

[Operator]

The next question comes from Sebastiano Petty of JPMorgan. Your line is open, sir.

[Sebastiano Petti, Senior Research Analyst at JP Morgan]

Hi, thanks for the question. Just a follow-up on Ben and John's theme there for a second. As we think about the consumer net add results in the quarter, any way to unpack maybe free line contribution intra quarter? I know that was a below the line offer that was in market as well as anything to quantify or read through from the deceleration in core prepaid down pretty materially sequentially. Is there any migration activity within the quarter there?

[Sebastiano Petti, Senior Research Analyst at JP Morgan]

And then lastly, on the Frontier deal close, you said early twenty twenty six. Is that implying a later than expected close versus 1Q twenty twenty six was the previous guidance given maybe some utility commission reviews that are ongoing out there? Thank you.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

No, we can start with the Frontier. No, nothing has changed. It's on the plan we said actually since we announced the acquisition. So it's the first quarter of twenty twenty six, so nothing has changed on that. And then on any particular things on our net adds.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

First of all, we had a great gross adds. I mean the team did a great job. Our sales channels were working. Our product is resonating with the market. The free lines was insignificant.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

It was part of the 06/24 launch and it just was on for a very short time period and it's off right now. So that had nothing to do with it. It was a really good execution by the team.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

And then on prepaid, as you can see, the segmentation strategy is working and the operation rigor now that we have is paying dividends and we have four straight quarters of growth in our prepaid business. And we're seeing good results across all of our main brands whether it's Straight Talk, Visible or Total Wireless and we continue to scale the distribution there. And the other thing I want to point out on prepaid is now that we have four straight quarters of volume growth, we've reached an inflection point and we now expect prepaid will be a contributor to service revenue growth in the second half of twenty twenty five. So we feel good about the progress and the momentum we have in the prepaid business.

[Sebastiano Petti, Senior Research Analyst at JP Morgan]

Just a quick follow-up there. Within prepaid to postpaid migrations, the 1919% increase in gross additions in the quarter, would that reflect any migrations across the base?

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

No, it's not significant for us. No.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Thank you. Okay, yeah. Thanks Sebastiano. Brad, ready for the next question.

[Operator]

The next question comes from Jim Schneider of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead, sir.

[James Schneider, Analyst at Goldman Sachs]

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I was wondering if you could maybe broadly comment on the broadband market trends that you're seeing right now. I think you talked about a softer move environment. But what are you seeing in terms of the gross add environment more broadly across both fixed wireless and Fios heading into the back half of this year, any change in competitive dynamics that would make you feel more or less confident about your ability to sustain better gross add better net additions in the back half?

[James Schneider, Analyst at Goldman Sachs]

And specifically, can you maybe comment on your expectation for fixed wireless adds and whether they can improve and recover heading into year end? Thank you.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Thank you, Jim. When it comes to broadband in the first half year, I mean, Fios has been fairly consistent. But of course, what we saw here in the third in the second quarter was a way lower mover market. I mean, still the product is the best product out there. The churn is very low, performing really well.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

On the fixed wireless access, it's the same phenomena we talked before. As we go suburban and rural to the 80%, 90% of C band, that's where we create the opportunities for fixed wireless access as is a secondary business case on our build. And that means that we have less passing, so whatever we call it in fixed wireless access world, we have less open for sale. So that's very natural. If I look into the second quarter, I'm pretty certain we will do better on broadband in second half this year than we did in the first.

[James Schneider, Analyst at Goldman Sachs]

And maybe could you just comment on the status of your MDU rollout? I know it's in trial phases right now, but would you expect that to be a significant contributor as we head into 2026?

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

So the MDU solution, which is the world's first, again, Verizon is leading with a solution that nobody else has done. That is more than trials right now, even though it's a smaller scale, where in many states, we start rolling it out. So we want to have a short time period between we have the product and we talk to the landlords. It's going to start scaling even more in the second half. I think it will be a bigger contributor in 2026 than in 2025.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

But it's a great product that can get very, very good broadband services all the way up to one gig, which is something extraordinary that the guys have been doing. But we will scale to see that we have the highest quality that Verizon is known for and is our trademark. Thank you.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Yeah. Thanks, Jim. Brad, we're ready for the next question.

[Operator]

The next question comes from Mike Rollins of Citigroup. Please go ahead.

[Michael Rollins, Analyst at Citi]

Thanks and good morning. Two topics, convergence and then EBITDA. So first on convergence, curious if you could share an update on how Verizon is progressing with the uptake of these converged bundles within the base. And if you can share how Verizon is looking to differentiate your converged offers versus the competition. And then on EBITDA, you referenced that it was up 4% in the second quarter, first half and that's better than the guidance range of 2.5% to 3.5 So can you unpack within the full year guidance, like what you're anticipating for the rest of the year? And what are the factors that would put you at the high end versus the low end of that range?

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

I can start and then I'm going to hand it over to Tony. But on the convergence, I think that, of course, our main key differentiator is that we have owners economics on mobility and broadband. We have the biggest mobility base and we're now adding our fiber base with Frontier. So we're to have an unparalleled opportunity for convergence that our customers have a chance to work on both. And as I said before, we have a very high degree on our broadband net adds per quarter that are already converged.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

So it's more about when we're going to scale that opportunity, we have even more chances. And if you think about coming into the Frontier footprint when that's approved, we have a huge opportunity as for convergence. So we're excited over that and that's our offering. And on EBITDA, first, before Tony say something, I think you see right now our leverage, the cost takes out we've done, the growth we're doing and it's falling straight down to bottom line. And we will continue to focus on that.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

As I said so many times before, the whole executive management and the whole company had three KPIs. It's the service revenue growth and then it's EBITDA and cash flow generation. So very, very, very good start of the year.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Thanks, Hans. Hey, Mike. So on the EBITDA, we were up over $500,000,000 in the quarter and about $1,000,000,000 of EBITDA growth year to date, and that's also in light of having a pretty significant upgrade activity mostly driven by the launch of our value guarantee. And we stayed very disciplined in the quarter.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

We didn't chase volumes and they gave us the confidence, the resiliency in the business gave us the confidence to raise the guide. And it starts with the top line revenue and service revenue is up 2.4% year to date. So we're seeing great operating leverage as Hans mentioned. And there's a lot of work going on, on the cost side of the house to continue to make the business a lot more efficient and serving customers day in and day out. If you think about the customer care and the work we launched on June 24 that includes having AI enabled customer care, managed services, we're seeing great progress now with the managed services work that Kyle and the team are doing and we're seeing good savings here ramping up in 2025.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

The network team continues to take out cost and legacy network elements and that includes copper decommissioning and that work is ongoing. And then even in business wireline, we continue to deemphasize low margin deals and stay very disciplined there. And then from a headcount standpoint, the voluntary separation program is now behind us and we're seeing a full run rate benefit for the balance of the year. There's really no assumption changes in upgrades as you asked before. We said mid single digits for the full year that still stays intact.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

And what we've said is volumes are important, but we're going to stay disciplined in our approach and in support of the three measures that Hans mentioned service revenue, EBITDA and free cash flow. And we'll pulse in, pulse out where it makes sense, but we're not going to chase some profitable growth for the sake of net adds. So but very pleased with the progress on EBITDA in the first half of the year and very comfortable raising the guidance for the back half.

[Michael Rollins, Analyst at Citi]

Thanks.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Yes. Thanks, Mike. Brad, we're ready for next question.

[Operator]

The next question comes from Cutt Gundamarao of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

[Kutgun Maral, Director at Evercore ISI]

Good morning and thanks for taking the question. I want to ask about your wireless go to market strategy. I know you pulse in and out of the market, Tony, just like you said. But looking through some of your postpaid offers in the second quarter, at times there seemed to have been a bit more promotional activity on the device side targeting the value end. Over the last few years, you've expanded your portfolio into segments that you target with TracFone and fixed wireless, for example.

[Kutgun Maral, Director at Evercore ISI]

But the value end had historically been perhaps less of a focus on the postpaid side. So I was curious if this was more of an opportunistic tilt that was specific to the quarter or if it's part of a more strategic shift in the way that you expect to go to market moving forward? Thank you.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Thank you. First of all, Sampart and the team together with our CMO, Leslie, have been working really hard to segment up our market. And because as we see the market having less and less new customers coming into the market, the segmented approach becomes important. We are running now I think eight or nine different brands. All of them have different brand attributes and appealing to different segmentations.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

So this is sort of a segmented growth strategy we have in wireless for consumer. And that will continue and just refine it and see that we have the right offerings in all the different type of brands we have. I would say some of the brands are doing extraordinary well. I mean total wireless, visible, very good, very targeted. Some of them have some sort of promotions, some of them are just having a service fee.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

So it's very different and you're going to see us continue doing that work because that is part of our growth story that we can actually meet any consumer with different economical background with the service. And as you can see in this quarter and the previous quarters, we're actually excited about those opportunities.

[Kutgun Maral, Director at Evercore ISI]

Great. Thanks, Hans.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Yeah, thanks, Cook. And Brad, we're ready for the next question.

[Operator]

The next question comes from Frank Louthan of Raymond James. Please go ahead, sir.

[Frank Louthan, Managing Director at Raymond James Financial]

Great. Thank you. Can you talk to us about the pace of the fixed wireless deployment? Are you seeing that increase, doing more investment there? Or is that kind of staying the same?

[Frank Louthan, Managing Director at Raymond James Financial]

And then can you characterize the promotion activity in July? Do you think that's going to be similar this quarter with seasonality? How should we think about that? Thanks.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Thank you. On the pace of fixed oil taxes, that's not changing at all. I mean we are gearing up for reaching 80 to 90% of C band this year and that's where we followed through with our fixed wireless access opportunities. And by next year, we're going to have basically built all our C band on top of the grid we defined from the beginning. And after that, we can always debate how we're going to continue allocate capital.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

But right now, we allocate capital for mobility for the simple reason that where we build the C band, we have better step ups, we have better upgrades from our customers. So that's the number one. But let us finish this and then we're going to see. But the pace has not changed, the same C band build out. What you see on the CapEx is actually also an efficiency work.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

We're doing everything that was planned for 2025 right now, but we do it more efficient. The team the network team is doing a great job, actually creating efficiencies on our CapEx. And that's very important for us going forward when we're also going to have Frontier inside.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Got it. Thanks, Frank. Brad, ready for the next question.

[Operator]

The next question comes from Craig Moffett of MoffettNathanson. Please go ahead.

[Craig Moffett, Partner & Senior Analyst at Moffettnathanson LLC]

Hi. I wanna follow-up to Ben's first question where you talked about capital allocation. Under the new budget or the one big beautiful bill, there is an expectation of significant spectrum sales even though the spectrum hasn't been identified. Can you just talk a little bit about that as to how you would prioritize spectrum purchases if there's either a government option or alternatively if private market spectrum comes available from EchoStar as to how that might affect, for example, your discussion about possible share buybacks?

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Thank you. When it comes to spectrum, mean, I think that what we have we're sitting on a really good position on spectrum with our CE band millimeter wave on our low band, and that's what you see are deploying right now. So we feel good about where we are with spectrum. Then I've said all the time that The U. S.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Over time needs more spectrum, especially as six gs comes up etcetera in order to stay competitive and being the most digitalized country in the world. So we're, of course, thinking it's good, that's part of the bill. But as you rightfully said, it still needs the box now. It has to be free up spectrum and all of that, and that will take some time. When it comes to in general, our capital allocation of spectrum, we always do the build versus buy.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

I mean, we have done it way before I joined. We look into will this buy this spectrum being better than building on our own spectrum today. That's the comparison we're always going to do when we see spectrum in the market. But again, we feel good about the position we have and we are encouraged that the government is planning over time to bring more spectrum to the market for the competitiveness of The United States Of America.

[Craig Moffett, Partner & Senior Analyst at Moffettnathanson LLC]

Thank you.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Thank you. Yes, thanks, Craig. Right for the next question.

[Operator]

The next question comes from Michael Funk of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

[Michael Funk, SVP at Bank of America]

Yes. Hi. Good morning. Thank you for the question. So on postpaid phone subscriber acquisition cost, what what are you seeing for the increase in acquisition cost year over year?

[Michael Funk, SVP at Bank of America]

And then what are you modeling for second half? And what's the right mix of budget for retention versus acquisition?

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

You know this is close to how we work constantly between Sam, Pat, me and Tony, seeing that we have an envelope for the full investment of customers, which is including acquisition, retention and media. To give you an exact number, that wouldn't be appropriate. But I think that what you should be feeling confident about that, that we weekly think about what is the best allocation that we get the best return on investment on the LTV and getting the right customers to over retention or acquisition. So that is a fluid work we're doing constantly and we have improved this dramatically over the years. Before, it was an overall budget.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Now it's a much more dynamic, but we stay within the financial discipline we have, so we're not overshooting on anything.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Yeah. Great. Thanks, Mike. Brad, ready for the next question.

[Operator]

The next question comes from Greg Williams of TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

[Gregory Williams, Director - Satellite Services, TMT - Cable & Communications Infrastructure at TD Cowen]

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. First one is just on the consumer phone gross adds. You guys said you're disciplined in not chasing volumes, but it's up 19%. I think that's a 2Q record.

[Gregory Williams, Director - Satellite Services, TMT - Cable & Communications Infrastructure at TD Cowen]

How sustainable is this level of gross adds going forward in the balance of the year? And the second question just on the customer experience that you guys launched on June 24 because you're talking it up quite a bit here. Wanted to get more color on what it is specifics and you mentioned AI enabling customer care, etcetera. So any color there would be great. Thanks.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Okay. Sure. The Greg, on the gross adds, couple of things here. The strength came from two places. First, we had very strong sales execution in our stores and distribution.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

The team did a great job. And then secondly, the value proposition when you think about we launched the best value guarantee back at the April and that is resonating with customers in the market. And we see a healthy mix of new to Verizon in the quarter and we're also writing good business as well. And what we said many times is volumes are important and we'll pulse in and pulse out, but where it makes financial sense. So and then as we said earlier, the biggest opportunity for us is loyalty and retention and the team is focused on it.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Yes. And if we talk about what was launched 06/24, I think that it was a lot of AI supported customer experience tools we put in. I mean, first of all, when it comes to the process, we now will have a customer care employee following any request or a complaint from our customers all the way. So we actually finish it out with the same person starting and ending and also having updates. That was the concern for our customers that we heard through the year and that we needed to improve.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

The other thing is we're also opening up our customer service 20 fourseven, very important. Again, that was a feedback that people are having different work hours, they want to call different times, we're to fix that. And then of course, we're giving our customer care employees an AI tool, so they can treat our customer better and know their problems better, because this could be stressful. We know that having the connectivity is such an essential service mobility in broadband. And then the last thing, we're going to leverage even more our stores.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

I mean, we 93% of The U. S. Population has less than thirty minutes to a Verizon store. We're to leverage that more, see that that's going to be a place where you can get more support and help as well. So we leverage all the assets and all our employees to see that we're treating our customer better.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

And I think it's an area we can excel in. And that then we basically have worked a lot on our product side, where we have My Plan, My Beast, My Home, all of that with Perks, which is really resonating. We have worked on a brand that we refreshed the brand last year, and that is actually going really good as well. And the network is of course the best network in the market that once again was proven by GD Power and RootMetrics. So we're working on all the cylinders how we compete for any type of customer all the way from enterprise government, small and medium to prepaid, postpaid customers on broadband and mobility.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

So it's a holistic thinking how we're to do this. So thank you for the question.

[Gregory Williams, Director - Satellite Services, TMT - Cable & Communications Infrastructure at TD Cowen]

Thank you.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Yes. Thanks, Greg. Brad, we're ready for the next question.

[Operator]

The next question comes from Peter Sopino of Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

[Peter Supino, MD & Senior Analyst - Media & Entertainment, Cable & Telecom at Wolfe Research, LLC]

Hi, good morning everybody. A question about costs and one about churn. On costs, you mentioned your expectations for continuing cost efficiency. And we see obviously headcount is flat year to date in your reporting compared to 5% improvement or decline in 2024. And so thinking out medium term thinking about 2026, 2027, I wonder if you could describe any opportunities you see for ongoing efficiency gains outside of price increases.

[Peter Supino, MD & Senior Analyst - Media & Entertainment, Cable & Telecom at Wolfe Research, LLC]

And then on churn, now that we're well past the impact of extended installment plans on consumer churn, What do you think is the cause of today's churn levels? Obviously, your initiatives in June indicate some incremental concern. And does that trend require less aggressive, less positive price increases in the future? Thanks.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

First of all, any future commercial plans, will not share. That I cannot do. I'll start with the cost. I think that both Tone and I see more cost opportunities than we have seen in a long time. And that's what you see in our leverage right now.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

And many of the AI solutions we are putting, we talked about them last year, we're putting into our both in the capital planning for our customers, for our employees, that will that's still not into any cost base for us. The headcount, have been very, very good and it's going down all the time. So we have been very efficient on managing our resources that is handling this market. Very happy with that. And I hand it over to Tony to talk a little bit more about cost and churn.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Yes, thanks. So Peter, a couple of things. The headcount down 3.7% year over year. And as I said earlier, we had a lot of EBITDA margin expansion in the first half.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

And we continue to take cost out whether it's AI, whether it's network. The team continues to take copper out of the network and network continues. And whether it's IT or real estate, IT platform consolidation or real estate, we're continuing to push cost out of the business. And even on business wireline, as I said before, we're being really disciplined at the deal desk. And even on wireless, we're being disciplined at the deal desk as well.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

And we're not chasing growth for the sake of growth. So as Hans says, we're operating differently, and we feel good about the cost actions that are driving the EBIT improvements and also the increase in the guide.

[Peter Supino, MD & Senior Analyst - Media & Entertainment, Cable & Telecom at Wolfe Research, LLC]

Thank you.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

All right. Yes. Thanks, Peter. Brad, we're ready for the next question.

[Operator]

The next question is from Brian Kraft of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open, sir.

[Bryan Kraft, Lead Equity Research Analyst - Media, Telecom, Cable & Video Games at Deutsche Bank]

Hi, good morning. I just had a question on Bead. With the recent changes in the program, I was wondering how you're thinking about the opportunity to participate and maybe make some incremental investments into footprint expansion through that program? Thanks.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Thanks. Yes, there are some slight changes to the bid program rules, which open up some opportunities for us, of course, and then it's a process of rebuilding. I think that's one area. The other area, of course, we have been building since the first Bead Bound Bead opportunity came up. So the combination of this probably that we have the same opportunities as we had when the Bead program started.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

We're going to bid where we see that we have a good return and with some subsidized from the government. So no major change for us. We are in this process right now. So need to come back to you when we see the outcome of that rebidding.

[Bryan Kraft, Lead Equity Research Analyst - Media, Telecom, Cable & Video Games at Deutsche Bank]

Okay. Thank you.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Yeah. Thanks, Brian. Brad, we have time for one more question.

[Operator]

Your last question will come from Tim Horan of Oppenheimer. Your line is open, sir.

[Timothy Horan, MD, Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.]

Because of the business revenues and margins have improved pretty substantially, just any more color on what you're doing there? I know you touched on it a little bit, but can you give us a little bit more examples of what's going on? And I guess the key question is, is it secular and I guess particularly on the margins?

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Thank you. Yes, it's a lot going on there. I mean some of you have been following us for quite a while. You know that somewhere in 2023, our performance was not the best. We took a lot of decisions, including getting basically a total new management team.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

Since then, we have been aligning on what we need to do. And you see so many vectors of growth that we didn't have before, I mean, the way from fiber, fixed wireless access, and of course, the fiber will be added to Frontier over time. You see our AI Connect that we talk about on the business side, suddenly we can leverage our assets on the fixed side. We have the Adjacent Services that for a couple of years ago were very small. Now with the Perks and all of that, we're doubling the growth there.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

So we have the convergence coming up as well. We have prepaid that Tony talked about that was zero or negative for us for quite a while. Now we're basically flattish and of course expecting that the team is going there. And then we have all the step up and the segmented growth that I talked about. So the team is executing really good.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

And in the foundation, we have a great network that we now are sort of capturing all the opportunities with the C band investment we did for a couple of years ago. And that's what you see. And then on top of that, with the discipline from Tony and the team, we are taking out cost. And then you see the leverage. And sometimes we just underestimate what great business this is.

[Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director at Verizon]

I mean, it's an enormous business when it comes to revenue and subscriber based services. And the generation of cash is extraordinary. We will just continue to drive that and see that we have the right offerings for our customer. But that's what's behind it, really well executed and what you should expect from Verizon, which is our trademark.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

Thanks. And then Hans, just a couple of things to add, Tim, on the business segment. The team continues to grow volumes, both Mobility and FWA, and the business continued to skew more wireless, which is great to see. And we said the goal was to improve the EBITDA profile in this segment and we saw really good progress in the first half of the year. We have three straight quarters now of growth.

[Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon]

So if you look between the revenue and the margins on the revenue side, as I said more wireless, and mobility growing even though we're growing through even the public sector pressures as well. And we're also seeing contributions from private five gs networks and AI Connect and that's also offsetting some of the wireline decline that we see. And then on the cost side, Kyle and the team are doing a great job with our managed services transformation, the deal we signed with HCL is providing a lot of benefits this year. And a lot of good discipline in terms of moving customers off of legacy progress products rather and deemphasizing low margin deals and also operating with lower headcount. So we're well positioned to continue to improve the business EBITDA margins this year. Very happy with the progress.

[Timothy Horan, MD, Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.]

Thanks, Austin.

[Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon]

Yeah. Thanks, Tim. Brad, that's all the time we have today.

[Operator]

This concludes the conference call for today. Thank you for participating and for using Verizon conference services. You may now disconnect.

Participants

Executives

• Hans Vestberg, Chairman, CEO & Director

Analysts

• Brady Connor, SVP, IR at Verizon
• Tony Skiadas, EVP & CFO at Verizon
• Benjamin Swinburne, Head of U.S Media Research at Morgan Stanley
• John Hodulik, Telecom & Cable Analyst at UBS Group
• Sebastiano Petti, Senior Research Analyst at JP Morgan
• James Schneider, Analyst at Goldman Sachs
• Michael Rollins, Analyst at Citi
• Kutgun Maral, Director at Evercore ISI
• Frank Louthan, Managing Director at Raymond James Financial
• Craig Moffett, Partner & Senior Analyst at Moffettnathanson LLC
• Michael Funk, SVP at Bank of America
• Gregory Williams, Director - Satellite Services, TMT - Cable & Communications Infrastructure at TD Cowen
• Peter Supino, MD & Senior Analyst - Media & Entertainment, Cable & Telecom at Wolfe Research, LLC
• Bryan Kraft, Lead Equity Research Analyst - Media, Telecom, Cable & Video Games at Deutsche Bank
• Timothy Horan, MD, Senior Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.