Indivior Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Record SUBLOCADE net revenue rose 9% year-over-year and 19% sequentially in Q2, fueling momentum into the back half of 2025.
  • Positive Sentiment: Raised full-year 2025 net revenue guidance to $1.03 B–$1.08 B, SUBLOCADE revenue guidance to $765 M–$785 M, and adjusted EBITDA guidance to $275 M–$300 M.
  • Positive Sentiment: Unveiled the three-phase Indivior Action Agenda to simplify operations, eliminate non-essential activities, and accelerate SUBLOCADE growth, with key decisions by Q4 2025.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Commercial execution efforts will focus on sharpening field messaging, expanding payer access, improving specialty pharmacy yields, and enhancing digital and direct-to-consumer outreach.
  • Negative Sentiment: Although Q2 pricing held firm, SUBOXONE Film is expected to face pricing pressure in H2 2025, and PERSERIS will continue its wind-down.
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Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Indivia Second Quarter twenty twenty five Results Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please note that today's conference is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to hand the conference over to Jason Thompson, your host for today's call. Please go ahead.

Jason Thompson
Jason Thompson
VP - IR at Indivior

Thank you, and good morning, and welcome to the Indivior's second quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. I'm joined today by Joe Ciafoni, Chief Executive Officer Patrick Barry, Chief Commercial Officer Kristen Heidbreder, Chief Scientific Officer and Ryan Preblett, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I need to remind everyone that on today's call, we may make forward looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties and that actual results may differ materially. We list the factors that may cause our results to be materially different here on slide two of this presentation. We also may refer to non GAAP measures, the reconciliations for which may also be found in the appendix to this presentation that is now posted on our website at indivior.com. I'll now turn the call over to Joe.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Thanks, Jason. Good morning and thank you everyone for joining the call. Today, will start with an overview of our performance in the quarter and then introduce the Indivior action agenda. Pat will discuss the actions we are taking to generate momentum with SUBLOCADE in The U. S.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

And Ryan will review the financial results for the quarter, along with our upwardly revised financial guidance for 2025. And then we will open up the call for questions. Since joining the board in December 2024, being announced as CEO in late February, and officially assuming the role on May 8, I've had the opportunity to listen to and learn the perspectives of the Indivior team, treatment providers, and investors. Indivior's greatest strengths include the committed professionals that make up the organization and its outstanding products, all of which have the potential to make a positive difference in people's lives. Having participated in more than 150 roundtable meetings with over 1,000 members of the Indivior team, I learned that over eighty five percent of our people have been impacted by OUD or addiction in some way and that this fight is personal to them.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

This is Endeavour's special sauce and what has driven the organization's success and resilience over the years, and this is what will fuel our success moving forward. Turning to the quarter, I'm pleased to report we delivered record sublocadenet revenue led by a solid performance in The U. S. U. S.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Suboxone film in The U. S. Outperformed our expectations as pricing remained stable through the second quarter. Our top line performance positions us well for the remainder of the year and enables us to raise our full year 2025 net revenue guidance and our profit expectations is now measured by adjusted EBITDA. I want to congratulate the Indivior team on a solid performance and importantly thank them for their unrelenting commitment to making a positive difference in the lives of people living with opioid use disorder in the communities we serve.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

While we are encouraged by our performance in the quarter, we are not satisfied as U. S. Commercial execution represents an opportunity for improvement. Moving forward, we will be laser focused on improving commercial execution in The US. It will become a hallmark of the organization.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

2025 is a transition year for Indivior. We've strengthened our leadership team and refreshed our board with important additions, including the appointment of Tony Kingsley to the board, who brings deep commercial experience. You've also seen the announcements of Pat Barry as our new Chief Commercial Officer, and most recently Vanessa Proctor as our new Executive Vice President of Corporate Affairs. These key leaders will play critical roles in implementing the Indivior action agenda. Indivior's business is relatively simple with a single product SUBLOCADE driving the majority of growth from a single country.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Yet the operations to support the business are complex with an inordinate amount of non essential activities inflating the cost structure and adversely impacting execution. There is an opportunity to strengthen the company, increase focus, reduce costs, and improve execution through simplification. Over the past couple of months, the management team, in partnership with the Board, have been developing the Indivior Action Agenda. The Indivior Action Agenda is a three phased multi year operational roadmap intended to maximize the potential of our business and make a positive difference in the lives of people living with OUD while creating value for our shareholders. Phase one of the Indivior action agenda, generate momentum, kicked off in May and runs through the 2025.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

The key focus areas of phase one are growing SUBLOCADE in The U. S. Through the remainder of the year by improving commercial execution. Pat will discuss this in more detail. Taking actions to simplify the organization by eliminating all non essential activities.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

And determining the actions and investments necessary to accelerate long acting injectable penetration in The U. S. BMAT market and to accelerate SUBLOCADE net revenue growth in 2026 and beyond. The overarching goal of phase one is to generate operational momentum and we already have multiple work streams underway. We are diligently working to simplify the organization with a focus on delisting from the London Stock Exchange, assessing the rest of world business and go forward operating model, determining the path forward for OpFI, consolidating our operating footprint, and restructuring the R and D and medical affairs organizations.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

We anticipate making and implementing decisions in these and other areas in the weeks to come. We will establish our go forward operating model in the fourth quarter with the expectation that we will finish 2025 with momentum and be positioned to accelerate in 2026. We look forward to providing an update on our third quarter results call. Phase two of the Indivior Action Agenda Accelerate kicks off on 01/01/2026. The goal of Phase two is to accelerate U.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

S. SUBLOCADE growth and immediately accelerate profitability and cash flow generation at a rate that exceeds revenue growth. By leveraging our go forward operating model, we expect to see immediate accretion to the bottom line and improved cash generation. Simultaneously, we will invest to accelerate SUBLOCADE growth in The U. S.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

In 2026 and beyond. I am confident that we can make every investment necessary to maximize the potential of SUBLOCADE in The U. S. And drop significant dollars to the bottom line right out of the gate in 2026. Through strong operational execution, we will earn our way to phase three of the Indivior action agenda breakout, where we will leverage a stronger financial profile to acquire the next drivers of growth.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Our focus will be on commercial stage acquisitions. We believe we will be able to enter the breakout phase in the 2026. There is much work to do between now and then, and I want to emphasize that we need to earn our way to phase three through strong execution of phase one and two of the Indivior action agenda. To conclude, we are encouraged by, but not satisfied with our start to 2025. We are pleased to be in position to raise our 2025 guidance and we have a clear path forward.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

For the remainder of 2025, we will be working diligently on phase one of the Indivior action agenda. We are committed to growing SUBLOCADE in The U. S, simplifying the organization, and taking the necessary actions to make sure we are only investing in essential activities. Our go forward operating model will be locked down in the fourth quarter of this year as it is imperative that we are ready for Phase two Accelerate on 01/01/2026. I am confident that we will be able to accelerate SUBLOCADE in The U.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

S. In 2026 and immediately accelerate the bottom line at an even faster rate. I will now hand the call over to Pat to discuss the opportunities we see for generating momentum with SUBLOCADE for the remainder of the year.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

Thank you, Joe. We are encouraged by, but not satisfied with the performance of SUBLOCADE in the quarter. We are focused on generating momentum with SUBLOCADE for the remainder of the year by improving commercial execution. Success here will position us for the acceleration phase of the Indivior action agenda entering 2026. I have been impressed by passion our commercial teammates have for OUD patients and the confidence they possess in SUBLOCADE.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

SUBLOCADE is fundamentally strong and poised for growth. I believe this because SUBLOCADE is the first and number one prescribed LAI treatment that has been taken by over three hundred and fifty thousand people living with OUD. The breadth of the prescriber base is growing and the depth is improving. SUBLOCADE has broad label aligned access among Medicaid and commercial payers and market research indicates that healthcare providers have a high intent to increase prescribing and see efficacy as SUBLOCADE's top attribute. These strong fundamentals translated into solid results in the quarter for SUBLOCADE.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

Record second quarter net revenue performance for SUBLOCADE was driven by year over year dispense growth of 6% versus the prior year and 9% versus the first quarter. Importantly, during the 2025, market share in The U. S. For SUBLOCADE remained stable at approximately 75%. I was also pleased to see in the quarter year over year growth in the number of active SUBLOCADE prescribers and those prescribing for five or more patients.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

The 14% increase in the number of active SUBLOCADE prescribers and the 9% increase in five plus prescribers are important leading indicators for the SUBLOCADE franchise and represent a solid base from which to grow. The number of SUBLOCADE patients over the trailing twelve months also grew, increasing 7% year over year. Our focus in the second half of the year is delivering on phase one of the Indivior action agenda for SUBLOCADE, improving commercial execution to generate momentum. Success will position the commercial team to be able to accelerate SUBLOCADE in 2026. Our first priority with regards to strengthening commercial execution is sharpening the field force's messaging acumen with higher utilization of SUBLOCADE's core promotional materials on every call.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

In conjunction with Sharpen messaging, we are also improving field force productivity to enable better reach and frequency on healthcare providers. We are also working on reinforcing SUBLOCADE's treatment benefits with prescribers. This includes driving broad HCP awareness of the updated SUBLOCADE label. These label updates include alternate sites of injection and rapid patient induction. In particular, we believe the ability to accelerate the second dose of SUBLOCADE provides better outcomes for our patients and is among the drivers of increased HCP utilization.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

Payer response has been positive with coverage of the new dosing approach reaching approximately eighty percent of covered lives. We believe these label updates have great potential to demonstrate SUBLOCADE as a fit for purpose LAI for today's opioid crisis, which continues to be driven by powerful synthetic opioids. We are also focused on pulling through SUBLOCADE's broad access across Medicaid and commercial payers. The commercial channel represents a large opportunity for patient activation, given that SUBLOCADE volume in the commercial channel only represents 25% of the total patient volume. We are confident that this is an area where we can improve.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

Related to the opportunity we see in greater commercial patient penetration is ensuring better performance within the specialty pharmacy channel. At present, dispense yield rates within our commercial channel are notably trailing our national average dispense rates. It is critical to address treatment yield to help our patients obtain the treatment they and their HCPs have chosen by improving the efficiency of our overall distribution model to ensure delivery of their chosen treatment to our commercial patients. We will be working on an account by account basis to improve the performance of our distribution network. Finally, we are augmenting our field efforts by investing in omni channel digital media targeting HCPs.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

This surround sound opportunity will complement our field force's individual selling efforts. We also believe there is a large opportunity to activate patients through direct to consumer efforts. Recall, SUBLOCADE has an 80% plus prescription pull through rate after patient request. I'm confident that these table stakes activities will generate momentum in the 2025 and put us in a position to accelerate in 2026. I look forward to updating you on our progress as we move through the remainder of 2025.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

I will now turn the call over to Ryan, who will take you through the financial results for the quarter and our upwardly revised guidance for 2025.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

Thanks, Pat. Overall, this quarter's financial performance was solid. For the remainder of the year, we are focused on delivering on our financial commitments and implementing Phase one of the Indivior action agenda generate momentum. Looking at the second quarter results in more detail, starting with the top line. Total net revenue of $3.00 $2,000,000 increased 1% versus the prior year as record SUBLOCADE net revenue offset expected pricing pressure on SUBOXONE Film and the continued wind down of PERSERIS.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

Total SUBLOCADE net revenue of $2.00 $9,000,000 increased 9% versus Q2 twenty twenty four. On a sequential basis, total SUBLOCADE net revenue increased 19%, reflecting a 9% increase in dispense volume as well as stocking and favorable gross to net dynamics of 5% each. On a dollarized demand basis, total SUBLOCADE net revenue in the second quarter would have been 194,000,000 Turning to SUBOXONE Film, we outperformed expectations in the second quarter due to price stability in The U. S. Along with a modestly higher than expected market share of 14%.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

Suboxone film net revenue also benefited from favorable gross to net dynamics of $10,000,000 Overall, while pricing has remained relatively stable throughout the 2025, our 2025 financial guidance continues to forecast pricing pressure in the second half of the year. Total non GAAP operating expenses were 167,000,000 in the second quarter, up 2% versus the same quarter last year. Selling and marketing expenses in the quarter were higher as expected from increased marketing behind U. S. SUBLOCADE.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

Non GAAP G and A expenses were down 7% versus the year ago quarter. R and D expenses were $21,000,000 in the quarter, a decrease of 20% versus the second quarter of last year. The decrease was due to the reprioritization of pipeline activities to focus solely on our two Phase two OUD assets and the related cost savings. As noted in the press release, we have adopted adjusted EBITDA as our primary profitability measure replacing non GAAP operating income. On this basis, adjusted EBITDA was $88,000,000 in the second quarter, which was slightly down versus last year as modestly higher net revenue was more than offset by increased marketing behind U.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

S. SUBLOCADE. Touching on the balance sheet, we ended the second quarter with gross cash and investments of $538,000,000 up from $347,000,000 at year end. The second quarter benefited by approximately 120,000,000 from the timing of Medicaid rebate invoices, which we expect to unwind in the third quarter. At the end of the second quarter, our adjusted leverage ratio was one point zero, excluding legal settlement obligations.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

As we have mentioned, we are committed to maintaining financial flexibility through Phase one generate momentum of the Indivior action agenda. To best reflect our operations, we are introducing adjusted EBITDA into our 2025 financial guidance as our primary profitability measure. This impacts our non GAAP operating expense guidance, which will now exclude full year 2025 stock based compensation expense of approximately 25,000,000 Reconciliation from the non GAAP operating profit guidance we provided on our first call in April to adjusted EBITDA excludes the $25,000,000 in stock based compensation and our full year 2025 depreciation and amortization expense assumptions of approximately $10,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA had it been part of our April financial guidance would have been $220,000,000 to $260,000,000 for 2025. Based on our solid performance in the 2025, we are raising our guidance for the year. Our total net revenue guidance range is increasing to $1,030,000,000 to 1,080,000,000.00 reflecting the solid year to date performance of SUBLOCADE and SUBOXONE Film pricing stability in The U.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

S. For SUBLOCADE, we are raising our full year 2025 net revenue guidance to the range of $765,000,000 to $785,000,000 This represents year over year growth of 3% at the midpoint versus full year 2024. We see improving fundamentals for SUBLOCADE and expect to see growth on a demand basis for the remainder of this year. Our gross margin and operating expense expectations are unchanged. We are raising our adjusted EBITDA guidance to $275,000,000 to $300,000,000 which is an increase of 20% at the midpoint versus our previous expectations.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

Lastly, I did want to mention that we now expect our effective corporate tax rate for full year 2025 to be between 1922%. Before concluding, I want to briefly mention corporate updates that further align with our increased U. S. Focus. First, effective last week, Indivior canceled its secondary listing on the London Stock Exchange.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

This action reduces cost and complexity associated with the dual listing. Second, Indivior was added to the U. S. Russell Indexes on June 30, which are well known benchmarks for U. S.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

Investors. I'll turn the call back over to Joe for closing remarks.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Thanks, Ryan. We are encouraged by our performance in the first half of the year, but we have a lot of work ahead of us to maximize the full potential of Indivior. We are confident we will deliver on our increased financial guidance for this year and be able to update you on the progress against the Indivior action agenda on our third quarter call. We will now open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you, We are now going to proceed with our first question. And the questions come from the line of David Amsellem from Piper Sandler. Please ask your question.

David Amsellem
David Amsellem
Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Thanks. Just got a couple from me. First, Joe, you've talked in the past about prioritizing gaining traction in patients who are commercially covered. Can you talk about that opportunity and how you're thinking about balancing that versus the core Medicaid population that comprises the bulk of the SUBLOCADE business? That's number one.

David Amsellem
David Amsellem
Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Number two is, can you talk about the criminal justice system channel? I didn't see it in the slides. Your predecessor talked about it a lot. So where does that fit in, in terms of overall strategy? And then lastly, wanted to ask you about your thoughts on R and D spend going forward.

David Amsellem
David Amsellem
Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

I know there's some strategic decisions to think about, but this is a commercial stage business and there is quite a bit of R and D spend. So how are you thinking about prioritizing or not prioritizing R and D in the context of all the other priorities that you've outlined commercially? Thank you.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

David, thanks for the question. I'm going to do it in reverse order because I'm going to hand the commercial question off to Pat. So first off, with regards to R and D and our medical affairs organization, we're going to be working through what will be a significant reorganization of those functions. Importantly, I'm pleased to be able to report by the end of this year both Indivior 06/2000, we believe will be fully enrolled and we'll have the opportunity, to hopefully read out that data by the end of the 2026. When we think about the R and D organization moving forward, we want to make sure we're maintaining the capabilities from a development perspective, to be able, if successful, to transition those programs into phase three.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

As it pertains to the criminal justice system, what I would say is the criminal justice system is an opportunity in our view of which we'll continue to be focused on. As you know, in the first quarter, as a result of coming off formulary in the Federal Bureau of Prison, we absorbed pressure, all of which manifested in the first quarter. We've seen stability. So we view that as a new start point within the criminal justice system upon which we will focus on growing. I think the important thing when people think about SUBLOCADE is they focus on the overall opportunity that we have, whether it be in commercial, Medicaid, criminal justice system, and it's really abundant and keeping in mind that LAI penetration is just under 8%.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

So we're very excited about the potential growth opportunity for SUBLOCADE and we view it as an enduring growth asset for us. And I'll hand it off to Pat to talk about commercial.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

Yes. Thanks, Joe. We're certainly not deemphasizing the Medicaid channel. I mean, Medicaid patients deserve an OUD treatment. And essentially we have demonstrated success in terms of converting those patients and getting them activated to treatment. However, when we look at the commercial opportunity in our covered lives, there's about 60% of our covered lives are commercial patients. And yet when you look at the SUBLOCADE volume, it only represents twenty five percent. So we want to continue to focus in on Medicaid as a channel, but those commercial patients also deserve SUBLOCADE, those who are suffering from OUD. So our focus is going to be on capitalizing on that as well. That's a sales force focus in terms of messaging, making sure our customers are fully educated on coverage.

Patrick Barry
Patrick Barry
Chief Commercial Officer at Indivior

And it also, is an opportunity for us to make sure that that specialty pharmacy channel is effective and efficient, so those patients, once prescribed, can be activated.

David Amsellem
David Amsellem
Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Okay, helpful. Thank you.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Thanks, David.

Operator

We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Chesney Kabulka from Craig Hallum. Please ask your question.

Chase Knickerbocker
Senior Equity Research Analyst - Healthcare at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC

Good morning. Congrats on the excellent quarter guys and thanks for the questions. Maybe just first on guidance. Have we seen anything so far in July that points to further kind of price compression on Suboxone? Kind of backing into the second half, you'd need to model a pretty decent volume or price decline.

Chase Knickerbocker
Senior Equity Research Analyst - Healthcare at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC

And then just on SUBLOCADE along the same lines, is there any reason kind of with all the strategic programs you put in place that SUBLOCADE would not kind of grow sequentially. Again, second half of the year, it looks like guidance assumes that there's probably a little bit of a sequential decline in Q3. I mean, just some thoughts on kind of product drivers there, as it relates to top line guidance.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Sure. So Chase, I appreciate the question. With regards to our guidance, what I would say to you is we haven't seen any signs of additional price erosion with Suboxone film, although we are factoring that into the guidance right now. To the degree that doesn't manifest, that would be a positive. And when you think about SUBLOCADE, what I would focus you on is on a demand basis, the SUBLOCADE guidance does incorporate growth in the back half of the year.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

We are very encouraged by what we're seeing from a fundamental perspective, inclusive of demand in July. But we have a lot of work to do in front of us to achieve it. But it does assume sequential growth on a demand basis.

Chase Knickerbocker
Senior Equity Research Analyst - Healthcare at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC

Got it. And then just two more if I could, Joe. First on the action agenda, any thoughts on kind of the magnitude of what the bottom line kind of cost savings benefit would be from kind of streamlining the business? And then along those same lines, should we expect that kind of any changes from streamlining the business would be in effect by year end 2025? And so there would kind of be a full year benefit from either being able to reshift those costs or drop them to the bottom line in 2026?

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Yes. So Chase, appreciate that question. With regards to the action agenda, I'm not going to give any color at this point in terms of giving a number or a target. That's not how we've approached it. We're focused first and foremost on making sure we're making every investment necessary to maximize the potential of SUBLOCADE in The U.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

S. And then we are focusing diligently on simplifying the organization and removing all non essential spend. I believe when we get to our third quarter, call, we'll be able to give perspective of what that looks like and then it will be fully captured in our guidance. What I do want to address head on in the question you're asking, we are not dabbling around the fringes. We are addressing the core of the cost structure.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

So people should have an expectation that it is a meaningful and significant reduction to the overall cost structure. And we will have everything or near everything implemented where we will have a full year effect. And what people should expect is growth of SUBLOCADE. But right out of the gate, those dollars dropping to the bottom line in January 2026.

Chase Knickerbocker
Senior Equity Research Analyst - Healthcare at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC

Understood. And then just lastly, Joe, your predecessor gave some thoughts around kind of where they think, market share would stabilize out with your competitor, with SUBLOCADE. I mean, do you have any thoughts as you've kind of become familiar with this market as far as kind of how you think kind of long term market share shakes out and kind of over how long a period we kind of get there?

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Yes. So I appreciate that question. From my perspective, the single most important thing when you think of SUBLOCADE on a going forward basis is long acting injectable penetration. The answer to what the peak sales of SUBLOCADE will be will not come down to what the market share of SUBLOCADE is. Now in saying that, what I will emphasize that we're very encouraged by because certainly from a competitiveness perspective, in particular with our commercial team, it's a very important metric.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

We have now seen for multiple quarters, stabilization of market share from a total perspective and we've also seen that from a new patient share, perspective. And we're seeing it at a total in the mid-70s, which we're very encouraged by. And the final comment I would make is we are very confident in the profile of SUBLOCADE along with physicians' knowledge and empirical experience that its market position is going to pan out just fine.

Chase Knickerbocker
Senior Equity Research Analyst - Healthcare at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC

Thanks, Jeff.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Got it.

Operator

We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Dennis Ding from Jefferies. Please ask your question.

Dennis Ding
Dennis Ding
VP - Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies Financial Group

Hi, good morning and congrats on a very solid quarter. Just one question for me on cost cuts. Is it reasonable to assume that you like to align your SG and A spend as a percentage of revenue to be more in line with industry peers, which is, I think, around 30% of revenue. Is that a fair way to think about it and how you're thinking about it, too, which, if so, would imply about $200,000,000 cut in OpEx just from SG and A over time? Thank you.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

So Dennis, I'm going hand that one off to Ryan.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

Hey, Dennis. Thanks for the question. So first, there's no doubt that our number one priority is generating the momentum behind SUBLOCADE, but our organization is too complex and our cost structure is too high for a company of our size. So we are currently assessing the entire organization from top to bottom as we speak with two focus areas. One is to make sure that we are fully resourcing SUBLOCADE to generate that momentum behind it.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

And then second, to only fund programs and activities that are essential. All non essential spend will be dropped to the bottom line. In regards to what exact number we want to get to, listen, let us work through this over the next couple of months. We will be in a better position over the next quarter or so to start sharing some of that. But we do believe that as we get into 2026, we will see the benefit from this work.

Dennis Ding
Dennis Ding
VP - Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies Financial Group

Okay, great, thank you.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Thanks, Dennis.

Operator

Thank you. We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Thibaut Bouteret from Morgan Stanley. Please ask your question.

Thibault Boutherin
Thibault Boutherin
Executive Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

Thank you. First question is just a clarification on stocking and the gross net dynamic for SUBLOCADE in the quarter. On stocking, is it a normalization towards normal level after the previous destocking? Or do you expect a reversal of this in the second half of the year? And gross to that, if you can explain to us a bit in more detail the dynamics here, is it a mix effect?

Thibault Boutherin
Thibault Boutherin
Executive Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

Is it sustainable? Is it going to reverse? So that's the first question. And the second one is just if you could sort of elaborate a bit on the previous market headwinds we saw during 2024. CGS budget, I think, is clear, but the Medicaid is on enrollment and any headwind in terms of the Medicaid.

Thibault Boutherin
Thibault Boutherin
Executive Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

Is it something that's over? And you should assume that the environment is now more favorable and now it's just sort of execution and organic growth? Or do you still see any sort of headwind in the Medicare enrollment or total number of patients on Medicaid? You.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Okay. Thank you, Thibaut. I'm going to hand the first question on stocking over to Ryan and then come back and I'll address the Medicaid question.

Ryan Preblick
Ryan Preblick
CFO & Executive Director at Indivior

All right, Thibault. Yeah, so in Q2, the stocking impact was minimal. There's always going to be some ups and downs through the year, but at this point, we project it to remain relatively stable for the balance of the year.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Okay. And then with regards to your question on headwinds, I really can't speak fully to the past. What I can tell you is that we see opportunity and tailwind in front of us. Certainly there are dynamics within Medicaid, in The U. S.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

That are taking place, but from a big picture perspective, we're encouraged that the opioid epidemic, opioid use disorder seems to be a bipartisan topic. We certainly advocate for coverage for everyone who is qualified along with access to treatments and appropriate care, for OUD. I would be mindful that when you think of Medicaid, the changes being proposed don't start to be implemented, until 2027. And there's consideration as it pertains to people who have OUD and substance use disorder, as an example, where they're not going to be held to the work requirement. So the big picture when you think of SUBLOCADE is it's about the abundant opportunity in front of it.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

There's an 8% LAI penetration. Whether you're talking Medicaid, whether you're talking commercial, whether you're talking the opportunity in criminal justice system, we are confident this year through operational execution of our commercial team that we will generate momentum. We will be doing the assessment and making the decisions of where we're going to invest to drive LAI penetration, to accelerate the brand on a going forward basis.

Operator

We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Karl Burns from Northland Capital Markets. Please ask your question.

Carl Byrnes
MD - Senior Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets

Thanks for the question and congratulations on the quarter. I'm wondering going back to the commercial opportunity and considering that you're around 25% and you're 60% in terms of BMAT therapies and 80% patient outreach conversion, with the DTC initiatives that are going to come into place. What do you think is a realistic, expectation long term in terms of getting closer to that 60% number? Where do you think it may ultimately land? Thanks.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Yeah. So, Carl, I appreciate the question. First, to be clear, we have 60% of covered lives within commercial. We do not expect to set expectations commercial ever to be the contributor that Medicaid is, but we do believe that we certainly should be getting more than 25% contribution from the commercial book of business. So we want to see that number moving upwards, but I wouldn't have an expectation that it's ever on par or anywhere near the level of what we're deriving from Medicaid, but it should be meaningfully higher than it is.

Carl Byrnes
MD - Senior Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets

Excellent. Thanks.

Operator

We have no further questions at this time. I will now hand back to you for closing remarks.

Joe Ciaffoni
Joe Ciaffoni
CEO & Director at Indivior

Thank you, operator, and thank you to everyone for joining the call today. We look forward to updating you on our progress as we execute the Indivior action agenda.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you and have a good day.

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