LPL Financial Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Reported a record $1.9 trillion in total assets under management and achieved $21 billion of organic net new assets, representing a 5% annualized growth rate.
  • Positive Sentiment: Delivered an adjusted EPS of $4.51 in Q2, up 16% year-over-year, alongside an adjusted pretax margin of approximately 38%.
  • Positive Sentiment: Successfully completed the conversion of Atria Wealth Solutions, retaining about 82% of assets—above the initial 80% target—highlighting strong transition capabilities.
  • Positive Sentiment: On track to close the acquisition of Commonwealth Financial Network, targeting 90% advisor retention and including Commonwealth in Q3 guidance with a $120 million initial EBITDA run rate.
  • Positive Sentiment: Lowered full-year 2025 core G&A outlook to $1.88–$1.92 billion as cost‐efficiency initiatives continue to outpace expectations.
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LPL Financial Q2 2025
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Operator

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining the Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call for LPL Financial Holdings, Inc. Joining the call today are our Chief Executive Officer, Rich Steinmeier and President and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Audit. Rich and Matt will offer introductory remarks, and then the call will be opened for questions. The company would appreciate if analysts would limit themselves to only one question. To ask a follow-up, please reenter the queue.

Operator

The company has posted its earnings press release and supplementary information on the Investor Relations section of the company's website, investor.lpl.com. Today's call will include forward looking statements, including statements about LPL Financial's future financial and operating results, outlook, business strategies and plans as well as other opportunities and potential risks that management foresees. Such forward looking statements reflect management's current estimates or beliefs and are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results or the timing of events to differ materially from those expressed or implied in such forward looking statements. For more information about such risks and uncertainties, the company refers listeners to the disclosures set forth under the caption Forward Looking Statements in the earnings press release as well as the risk factors and other disclosures contained in the company's recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. During the call, the company will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures.

Operator

For a reconciliation of such non GAAP financial measures to the comparable GAAP figures, please refer to the company's earnings release, which can be found at investor.lpl.com. With that, I will now turn the call over to Mr. Steinmeier.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Thanks, operator, and thank you to everyone for joining our call. It's a pleasure to speak with you again. After an outstanding start to the year, we delivered another quarter of strong business performance and excellent financial results, while continuing to advance key initiatives. We entered the second quarter against a backdrop of elevated macroeconomic uncertainty and market weakness. While markets rebounded sharply as the quarter progressed, questions remain regarding the resiliency of the equity markets.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

In this rapidly evolving operating environment, our advisors continued to serve as a steady hand, helping to guide their clients and reinforcing our commitment to support them. Okay. Now let's turn to our Q2 results. In the quarter, total assets increased to a record $1,900,000,000,000 A solid organic growth was complemented by higher equity markets. We attracted organic net new assets of $21,000,000,000 representing a 5% annualized growth rate.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Our second quarter business results led to strong financial performance with the adjusted EPS of 4.51 an increase of 16% from a year ago. Next, let's turn to our strategic plan and progress across our organic and inorganic initiatives. Our vision is clear. We aspire to be the best firm in wealth management. To do that, we are focused on three key priorities.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

One, pursuing novel and differentiated strategies that enable the firm's sustained success. Two, creating an extraordinary employee experience, so employees in turn deliver an unparalleled client experience. And three, leading the firm with operational excellence through increased intentionality and rigor. Effectively executing on these focus areas will help us sustain our industry leading growth while delivering improved operating leverage. With that as context, let's review a few highlights of our business growth.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

In the second quarter, recruited assets were $18,000,000,000 bringing our total for the trailing twelve months to $161,000,000,000 In our traditional independent market, we added approximately $15,000,000,000 in assets during q two, where despite a broader slowdown of industry wide advisor movement, we maintained our industry leading capture rates of advisors in motion while also expanding the breadth and depth of our pipeline. With respect to our expanded affiliation models, strategic wealth, independent employee, and our enhanced RIA offering, we delivered another solid quarter recruiting roughly $3,000,000,000 in assets. And as we look ahead, we expect that the increasing awareness of these models in the marketplace and the ongoing enhancements to our capabilities will drive sustainable growth. Next, we added approximately $1,000,000,000 of assets in the traditional bank and credit union market. We also continued to make progress with large institutions, where we announced that First Horizon would transition its wealth management business to our institutional services platform.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

As a reminder, First Horizon supports approximately 120 financial advisors managing roughly $17,000,000,000 in client assets, which we expect to onboard later in Q3. Turning to overall asset retention, it remains industry leading at 98% for the second quarter and over the last twelve months. This is a testament to our continued efforts to enhance the advisor experience through the delivery of new capabilities and technology and the evolution of our service and operations functions. As a complement to our organic growth, in July, we completed the conversion of Atria Wealth Solutions. This is no small feat when you consider that Atria had seven distinct broker dealers that use multiple custodians.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

This is a testament to our experienced team and the diligent investments we've made in recent years, and it highlights our differentiated transition capabilities relative to the rest of industry. As for retention, we're still finalizing results, but anticipate asset retention landing at approximately 82%, ahead of our initial target of 80%. Now as for our pending acquisition of Commonwealth Financial Network, our leadership team has had the pleasure of spending focused time with Commonwealth advisors and leadership over the last four months. This has been time well spent, helping to foster increasingly constructive conversations. Today, we have a better understanding of what's important to them, preserving and fostering the Commonwealth community and culture.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Plus, we've had the opportunity to showcase the resources and capabilities at LPL. The combination creates a firm with the scale, the experience, and the permanent capital needed to serve and support their growth for decades to come. As a result, we have made steady progress with advisor commitments and remain on track to achieve our retention target. We expect to close the transaction tomorrow morning and are excited to hit the ground running as we prepare to onboard this community of advisers. To summarize, we are pleased with the second quarter results, and we feel great about our position as a critical partner to our advisers and institutions while we continue to create long term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Matt.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Thanks, Rich. I'm glad to speak with everyone on today's call. To Rich's point, it's been an active quarter with the team delivering tremendous results at a rapid pace. To reiterate some of those highlights, we delivered another quarter of industry leading organic growth, launched our first ever national marketing campaign, continued to make progress in the institutional channel as we prepare to onboard First Horizon, successfully onboarded Atria and completed all pre close work for acquisition of CommonReal. Our disciplined execution continues to translate into strong business and financial results with our cost efficiency work pulling through to sustainable improvements in our margins.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Now turning to a few highlights from our Q2 business results. Total Advisory and Brokerage assets were 1,900,000,000,000.0 up 7% from Q1 as continued organic growth was complemented by higher equity. Total organic net new assets were $21,000,000,000 an approximately 5% annualized growth a strong result both on an absolute and relative basis. On the recruiting front, Q2 recruited assets were $18,000,000,000 contributing to $161,000,000,000 over the trailing twelve months. With respect to large onboardings, during the quarter, we successfully completed the conversion of Atria's seven broker deals, continued to prepare for first Horizon, which we expect to onboard in Q3 and we're progressing towards closing Commonwealth as planned.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

As Rich mentioned, we expect to close the transaction tomorrow and convert Commonwealth's assets to our platform in the 2026, which has moved out slightly from our original timeframe as we've begun to scope the tech and operational work required to ensure advisors have an exceptional experience. At close, we continue to expect run rate EBITDA to be roughly 120,000,000 and approximately $415,000,000 once fully integrated, which is underpinned by our 90% retention target. With that as context and given the timing of the close, we'll include Commonwealth in our guidance items today. I would just note, given we have not yet closed the deal, there could be some variability in the line item geography. Looking at Q2 financial results, the combination of organic growth and expense discipline led to an adjusted pretax margin of approximately 38% and adjusted EPS of $4.51 Gross profit was $1,304,000,000 up $32,000,000 sequentially.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

As for the key drivers, commission and advisory fees net of payout were $349,000,000 down $14,000,000 from Q1. Our payout rate was 87.3%, up approximately 60 basis points from Q1, largely due to typical seasonality. Looking ahead to Q3, we anticipate our payout rate will increase to approximately 87.6%, driven by the typical seasonal build in the production business as well as our acquisition commonwealth. With respect to client cash revenue, it was $414,000,000 up $5,000,000 from Q1. Overall client cash balances ended the quarter at $51,000,000,000 down $2,000,000,000 sequentially, primarily driven by continued elevated levels of net buying activity.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Within our ICA portfolio, the mix of fixed rate balances ended the quarter at roughly 65%, slightly above the midpoint of our target range of 50% to 75%. Looking more closer to ICA yields, it was three forty two basis points in Q2, up five basis points from Q1 as higher renewal rates on our fixed rate contracts offset lower average cash balances. As we look ahead to Q3, based on where client cash balances and interest rates are today, as well as the Commonwealth related cash, we expect our ICA yield to be roughly flat sequentially. As for service and fee revenue, it was $152,000,000 in Q2, up $7,000,000 from Q1, primarily driven by strong organic growth. Looking ahead to Q3, we expect service and fee revenue to increase by approximately $20,000,000 sequentially, driven by revenues from our annual focus comps as well as our pending acquisition of common stock.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Moving on to Q2 transaction revenue. It was $61,000,000 down $7,000,000 sequentially due to lower trading volumes. As we look ahead to Q3, we expect transaction revenue to increase by approximately $5,000,000 sequentially, primarily driven by common. Now let's turn to expenses starting with Core G and A. It was $426,000,000 in Q2, below our outlook range for the quarter as we continue to make progress on our renewed focus on driving operating leverage in the business.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

For the full year 2025, given our cost initiatives are tracking ahead of schedule, we are lowering our 2025 outlook to a range of $1,720,000,000 to $1,750,000,000 which includes 170,000,000 to $180,000,000 of expense related to Prudential and Atrium. Additionally, given the expected close of Commonwealth tomorrow, we factor these expenses into our overall core G and A outlook and expect an incremental $160,000,000 to 170,000,000 As a result, our new core G and A outlook range is $1,880,000,000 to $1.92 To give you a sense of the near term timing of the spend, in Q3, we expect core G and A to be in a range of $495 to $510,000,000 including common. Moving on to Q2 promotional expense. It was $164,000,000 up $12,000,000 from Q1, primarily driven by conference spend and transition assistance resulting from our strong recruiting. Looking ahead to Q3, we expect promotional expense to increase by approximately $35,000,000 driven by conference spend as we will host our annual Focus Conference next month as well as transition assistance related to common.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Turning to depreciation and amortization, it was $96,000,000 in Q2, up $4,000,000 sequentially. Looking ahead to Q3, we expect depreciation and amortization to increase by roughly $5 As for interest expense, it was $102,000,000 in Q2, up $22,000,000 sequentially, driven by our April debt issuance. Looking ahead to Q3, given the revolver balances following the close of the Commonwealth transaction, we expect interest expense to increase by approximately $5,000,000 from Q2. Moving on to our tax rate. It was approximately 26% in Q2.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Looking ahead, we expect Q3 to be around 27%, as we anticipate recording a reserve on a couple of tax payments. Turning to capital management. As a reminder, we funded Commonwealth through a combination of corporate cash, debt and equity. We ended Q2 with corporate cash of 3,600,000,000.0 up $3,000,000,000 from Q1, which included proceeds from our capital raises. Following the close, we expect corporate cash to come back down closer to our management target range of roughly $200,000,000 And as such, we expect Q3 interest income to be approximately $40,000,000 As for our leverage ratio, it was 1.23 times at the end of Q2.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

In line with the plans we shared previously, we expect our leverage ratio to be approximately 2.25 times following the close, with a path to deleverage to approximately two times by the 2026. Moving on to capital deployment. Our framework remains focused on allocating capital aligned with the returns we generate, investing in organic growth first and foremost, pursuing M and A where appropriate and returning excess capital to shareholders. In Q2, the majority of our capital deployment was focused on supporting organic growth and M and A, where we continue to allocate capital to our liquidity and succession solution. To uphold our commitment to maintaining a strong and flexible capital position, we paused share repurchase, which we will revisit once we onboard common law.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

In closing, we delivered another quarter of strong business and financial results. As we look forward, we remain excited about the opportunities we have to continue to drive growth, deliver operating leverage and create long term shareholder value. With that operator, please open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Alex Blossian from Goldman Sachs.

Alex Blostein
Alex Blostein
Managing Director at Goldman Sachs

Hey guys, good evening, good morning, long day. I was hoping we could start with a question around Commonwealth. Obviously, it's a big focus for investors. Congrats on the deal, I guess, closing here tomorrow. But which maybe to start with how the conversations with the team are evolving?

Alex Blostein
Alex Blostein
Managing Director at Goldman Sachs

You guys are clearly sticking with a 90% expectation. So a little bit of color on what gives you confidence in being able to achieve that. And then financially, Matt, I was hoping you maybe could hit on reasons behind keeping EBITDA run rate at 120% to start off despite the fact that the asset levels are decent amount higher from the time you announced the deal? Thanks.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Yeah. Thanks, Alex. It's Rich. I'll start out and then hand that second part over to Matt. So on Commonwealth, I think we've had four months of fever pitched engagement with them where we have gotten to know the advisers, the leadership team, and more broadly, the employees better and better.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

And and what we thought before we got into this partnership has been completely reinforced, which is that the Commonwealth team has built something truly special. They set the mark for what it means to serve independent advisers. Hopefully, you've seen just a few weeks ago, Commonwealth received their twelfth consecutive number one ranking from J. D. Power for independent adviser satisfaction.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

And as we've stated continually, we are committed to preserving that unique culture, the adviser experience, the brand, and in fact, we will only enhance what they already receive with the combination of the LTL capabilities with that Commonwealth experience. Beyond that, we'll actually transfer so much of those learnings of that exceptional delivery of the client experience, reception of adviser feedback, ingestation of that disposition, and and changing capabilities to the broader LPL base. So we feel, you know, really great about that moving over there as well. As we've gotten closer to the close of the transaction, which we announced is tomorrow, we anticipate tomorrow, we've also begun the cross pollination of our cultures. We've connected with advisers, employees, leadership to better understand the secret sauce behind their success.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

You know, just recently, 27 Commonwealth employees attended the LPL summer bash in our Fort Mill campus. We sent emissaries from LPL up to Commonwealth's annual wing eating contest and cornhole tournament. We are in just over a week. We'll have 70 Commonwealth advisers and home office staff are scheduled to join our annual focus conference. And as of tomorrow, I'm really excited to announce that Commonwealth CEO, Wayne Bloom, will join the LTL management committee upon the close of the transaction.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

As for the transaction itself, I feel like we're progressing things according to plan. From an operational standpoint, the teams have been working closely to compete to complete the pre closing work, and we're on track to close that deal tomorrow. With respect to integration planning, we're early in the journey, but we have scoped the work to ensure we're preserving the experience for Commonwealth Advisors on the other side of the conversion. We expect that to take place q '4 of next year. With respect to the advisor retention, Alex, which you asked specifically about, at this stage, I feel good.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

We've engaged with so many advisors. And for those Commonwealth Advisors who are prioritizing the Commonwealth experience, their community, the technology, service, ongoing economics, and really staying at their forever home for their business and their clients, staying with Commonwealth is their only option. But like as with any transaction or competitive recruiting event, some advisers will prioritize differently. That exact dynamic is contemplated in our retention target. To an end, we continue to feel confident about our ability to capture 90%, which does mean we understand that 10% of the advisers will make a different choice and go somewhere else.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

All that being said, there's nothing that's been surprising in terms of competitive response or adviser decisioning. Maybe it's been a little bit noisier in the trades than we had expected, but that's of little consequence. So to summarize, we remain extremely excited about the partnership, and the deal is progressing according to plan. I'll turn it to Matt.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Yep. It's Rich. Yeah, Alex. So on on the on the run rate EBITDA, AUM is definitely up, but cash balances are down a little bit. So, they kind of roughly offset.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

So, the mix of that run rate EBITDA, you could say, has improved a little bit, but that's the reason it hasn't changed.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Steven Chubak from Wolfe Research.

Steven Chubak
Managing Director at Wolfe Research LLC

Hi, good afternoon, Rich and Matt. Thanks for taking my question. Matt, it's a question on the expense optimization and specifically the updated guidance for core G and A growth of 5% ex deals certainly suggest that your efforts to bend the cost curve are clearly bearing fruit. Given you continue to surprise positively versus the original guidance, I I was hoping you could speak to whether you see room to drive further efficiency gains from here as we think about the longer term expense journey? And do you see 5% or better G and A growth as a sustainable long term target given some of those efficiency efforts?

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Yes, Steve. I mean, I think the broad point just to underscore what I said in the prepared remarks here is I think the we've got really good momentum on the efficiency work. And I think the thing that is really exciting and I think the thing that has this team collectively working hard together on it is its efficiencies that not only drive operating margin, but they drive an improvement in client experience. And maybe to state the obvious, it's easy for everyone to get really motivated and really focused around that. So things are moving faster than we expected.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

We're just you know, there's things like just automating manual processes in our operations group. There are things where it's reducing friction with advisors, so it's improving that experience as well as reducing our need to answer calls related to those things. And to get to your specific part of your question, think this is not a one year thing. I think we have got a long runway here to continue to drive efficiencies before we even get to really starting to deploy the newer technologies that are coming out. So I think we'll have to see each year from a guidance standpoint what that looks like.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

But I think from a broad strategic standpoint, I think we have many, many years where we can drive improvements here not only to up leverage, but also to the experience that we're able to deliver which dovetails back to this being just the best place for advisors to be and ultimately can be a catalyst for driving organic growth as well.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Craig Siegenthaler from Bank of America. Craig from Bank of America, your line is now open.

Craig Siegenthaler
Craig Siegenthaler
Managing Director at Bank of America

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. I had a question on net new assets in the independent RA channel. What drove the modest outflows this quarter? And can you provide us an update on the long term growth trajectory in this channel?

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Hey, Craig. Can you repeat that middle part about the modest? I didn't hear the middle part about yeah.

Craig Siegenthaler
Craig Siegenthaler
Managing Director at Bank of America

The independent RA channel, I think, had modest, negative net new assets this past quarter. So I was just I had a question on what drove that. And then maybe you could just refresh us on the long term growth trajectory of this channel.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Yeah, Craig. There's nothing I would highlight there. I think when you look at those the growth there, I mean, you can see quarter after quarter after quarter, the growth is really in the corporate channel. We do have a little bit of the misaligned OSJs that we talked about the last couple of quarters that would impact. But there's nothing that I would highlight in particular in the quarter.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

You can see on those charts that it's the corporate RIA NNA that really is the key driver of that area. Rich, anything you wanted to add more on the strategy in that area?

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Yeah, I think the thing I would say is that we continue to strengthen our offering, Craig, in supporting RIAs. One of the questions I think that you'll see arise is you've seen less flows to the RIA segment. We see more flowing into our corporate RIA. Mostly that has to do with ambiguity around the current regulatory environment. I think the SEC is currently evaluating whether or not they're going to raise a threshold for SEC level registration of an RIA versus state registration.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

So when you see that potentially moving from a $100,000,000 up to a billion dollar threshold, I think you're going to see more folks that are pausing and actually flowing into our corporate shared ADV model. So I think you gotta look at those things in tandem to take a look at where do you see overall flows moving into the firm. And there will be times when you'll see flows move in to our corporate RIA versus independent RIAs. And I would say this is maybe that moment in time where you're seeing a little slowdown of the movement into independent RIAs because of the ambiguity in the regulatory environment. That probably contributes to some of those outcomes.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Devin Ryan from Citizens.

Devin Ryan
Director of Financial Technology Research at Citizen JMP

Great. Hi, Rich. Hi, Matt. How are you?

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Good. Doing well, Devin. Thank you.

Devin Ryan
Director of Financial Technology Research at Citizen JMP

Good. Great. Another one here on Commonwealth. So first off, great to confirm the retention target there and congrats on closing that here tomorrow. Several industry newswires in recent weeks have talked about how some of these Commonwealth advisors are setting up their own RIAs or looking into doing the same thing.

Devin Ryan
Director of Financial Technology Research at Citizen JMP

Maybe that's actually connected to the last answer you made. But Rich, would love to get some thoughts on what this means for LPL in the context of the deal. Do you lose those advisors? Are they in that 10%? Or is there an opportunity to continue to work with them?

Devin Ryan
Director of Financial Technology Research at Citizen JMP

And so just trying to think about kind of the implications of this more broadly. Thanks.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Yeah. Hey. Thanks, Devin. So I think you have seen a little bit more of conversations about options for the advisers. And look, this is the time of enhanced due diligence for Commonwealth advisers.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

You have to keep in mind, those advisors were likely not doing diligence before the announcement of the sale of Commonwealth. And so as they've gone through their evaluation process, which we've been really supportive of, they've explored all kinds of different options. One of those options would be forming their own RIA. And it shouldn't be too surprising given the makeup of the Commonwealth Advisors where they skew more towards advisory, and many of them were moving down the pathway to already dropping their licenses. Keeping in mind, as you go through that evaluation on your own, you can either drop your own licenses to become an IFA inside of a shared ADV model, or you can go set up your own RIA.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

What you're referring to, Devin, is that kind of conversations and thought about setting up their own RIAs. Usually, it's under this premise of there'll be better economics, enhanced autonomy by setting up your own RIA. And I would say as we've begun, you know, doing one one on one conversations, webinars, etcetera, what we've begun to help them realize and and many have realized is they may have underestimated the operational lift and the regulatory complexity that comes with running your own RIA. You know, as an RIA, they're responsible for their own regulatory compliance and risk management in addition to running the responsibilities of small business like tech and HR. And I just alluded to in the previous answer, one of the things that I think is adding ambiguity into whether you set up your own RIA or move under a shared ADV model is that ambiguity in the regulatory environment relative to the threshold for SEC regulation, which is quite a bit easier to work with one regulatory body than working with multiple states.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

If you even serve a de minimis number of advisers inside sorry, of clients inside the state. You have to register with that state itself. And so that's a lot of what you see as advisors weighing those options about, does it make sense to do that on my own? Now specifically to your question, we support independent RIAs. We also support advisers who drop their licenses, their FINRA licenses on our shared ADV corporate RIA.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

And as we've gotten deeper and deeper into these conversations, what the advisers have realized is to keep the Commonwealth experience, community culture, service environment, brand, etcetera, that they've come to love, they can still do that either inside of an RIA construct with LPL or if they want to be an IFA inside of that shared ADV model with LPL as well. So when you hear the evaluation of setting up your own RIA, it doesn't mean that they're going to move. Now one of the things I think they've also considered is if they choose to set up their own RIA with another custodian, they're going to have to go through a repapering event. It means they're gonna have to engage their clients. They're going to have to repaper all of their accounts, and they're going to find some lost efficiency, and spending some time actually working through that transition.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Whereas with us, they're not going to have to go through that event as well. So, yeah, there's a lot for them to consider and weigh, but what on balance we've seen, Devin, is that advisers are seeing that we can support them. They keep their community. They keep their support model. They keep that leadership team that they love.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

They can do that inside of an RIA or on our shared ADV at LPL. And I think on balance, what we're seeing is we're having very productive conversations there. Again, I would tell you, even at 90%, what you are going to see is announcements of folks that are going to leave. But on balance, we think that center of gravity sits around 10% in spite of the fact that really it seems like each and every one of those stories is being amplified by the traits.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Dan Fannon from Jefferies.

Dan Fannon
MD - Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc

Thanks. Good evening. Wanted to just talk about the recruiting backdrop and your outlook for NNA here as you think about the second half of the year. And maybe also just throw in advisor movement more broadly for the industry and how that compares maybe what you thought earlier in the year to where we sit today.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Yeah. Hey, thanks, Dan. Look, I think you probably keyed into one of the things that we're seeing as well is that with the macroeconomic uncertainty that that exhibited itself in the second quarter, we saw a truncation of some of the adviser movement. And so historically, we think of that advisor churn movement sitting around five and a half to 6%. It has been truncated over the first half of this year.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

We see the center of gravity sitting around 5%. And so you see a reduction in the overall movement. A lot of times when advisors are faced with enhanced volatility in the markets, they're going to usually defer a move. Reason they don't wanna be out of the market for their clients. And so that doesn't mean you're going to see overall movement down over the long term.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

You'll just see a pushing out until we get to a more stable environment. And I think we still sit with slightly elevated ambiguity as to what the macro looks like as we still sit on the tailwinds on on the back end of some of that uncertainty around tariffs, etcetera. And so we still see into the beginnings of this quarter a more truncated movement environment, but I would highlight that inside of that, we still have industry leading win rates of the advisers in motion. And for us, I'm really proud of the results we had in the quarter because we recruited $18,000,000,000 in q two worth of advisers assets. But in addition to that, we have deployed a subset of our recruiting team against retaining the 3,000 Commonwealth advisers.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

And as I mentioned, that's progressing pretty well. So you take that together, and we feel really good about the results that we've had when you put both of those together, which says that the effectiveness of our certainly of our business development team has been really high. We have heard the commentary from some of the competitors talking about changes in the transition assistance and more competitive TA environments, and we're really attuned to that. We recruit more advisers any other firm in the marketplace, and so we're in more conversations than anyone else. We're aware of the movement in TA, and I would reiterate that TA for us is not the driver of the selection of advisors as to what firm they choose to join.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

The number one thing that they look for are capabilities, technology, service, the value exchange that comes with the firm. And then second to that are the ongoing economics. On both of those, we feel we're without peer in the industry. And third in that evaluation of changing firms is the TA rate, which we have seen become more competitive during the course of the first half of the year. So we remain confident that the ongoing appeal of our model positions us well to maintain our industry leading capture of advisors in motion.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Benjamin Buttigieg from Barclays.

Benjamin Budish
Benjamin Budish
Director at Barclays

Hi, good evening and thank you for taking my question. I was wondering if you could kind of comment at a high level about your overall gross profit ROA. It's been declining for a few years now and I'm sure some of that is mix, some of that is as you onboard larger enterprises, kind of move up market with larger financial institutions. Just curious, how do you think about how the next couple of years should look, especially ex cash? How much of this is sort of due to that kind of rapid growth M and A?

Benjamin Budish
Benjamin Budish
Director at Barclays

How much of this trend can be bucked? How should we think about that sort of medium term outlook for that KPI? Thank you.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Yes, you bet. I mean, think broadly as we've grown and as our revenue is diversified, that's not necessarily the best metric to look at, especially in a market where AUM is rising at a rapid pace. And not all of our gross profit is AUM driven. So I think that's a little bit to your point on seeing gross profit ROA decline. You see that being driven by cash balances.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

You see that happening in line items like service and fees where those are fees that are primarily driven by advisor levels and account levels, not AUM levels. When you start to look at the line items that are AUM driven like advisory fees, commissions is a little bit more transactional. I think you see a lot more stability there. So a long way of saying, I think the decline there I think is more driven by not every metric or item in that metric is driven by basis points on AUM. When we take a step back and look at where and how we're driving revenue, I think we feel very good about our gross profit growth overall, especially when you couple that with the efficiency measures and you start to look at EBITDA ROA and how that's grew for the first time this quarter and in quite some time when you couple those two things together.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

So, overall, think we feel really good. I think you just get a little bit of noise in that metric because not everything is really AUM driven.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Cyprys from Morgan Stanley.

Michael Cyprys
Michael Cyprys
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for the question. Just wanted to ask about capital allocation with the deal closing tomorrow. Just how are you thinking about that in the quarters ahead? And then related to that, on liquidity succession, I was hoping you could update us on the progress contributing to results and how you anticipate the pace of deals and capital allocation to that going forward from here? Thank you.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Yeah, Michael. I mean, I think when you look at capital allocation, I think we'd just reiterate, we've talked about a bit on the once we file the Closed common law, keeping our plans and intentions about our leverage ratio are key for us, right? So we expect to be at a leverage ratio of 2.25 times post close. We have a plan to deleverage down to the midpoint of our range at two times by the 2026 as we integrate. So I think that is going to really guide our capital allocation perhaps specific or not overtly asking your question, but specific to share repurchases.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

I think we'll reassess those once we've gotten back down to that leverage ratio. Within that though, I think we can continue to drive and allocate capital to organic growth, which typically is our capability development and technology as well as the TA behind recruiting. And on the M and A front, which is the second part of your question in L and S, I think that continues to go quite well. We've ended up putting about 10 deals the last couple of quarters in a row. Those are relative small from a capital standpoint in the 10,000,000 to $20,000,000 range each.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

But they drive a lot of good earnings generation for us. But I think more importantly, there's just a great capability to help advisors transition their practices to the next generation. So overall, it continues to go well. The pace has picked up to about 10 per quarter and it's a good use of our capital that continues to be in our plans while still landing our leverage ratio or deleveraging down to two times.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Schmitt from William Blair.

Jeff Schmitt
Research Analyst - Financial Services and Technology at William Blair & Company, L.L.C

Hi, good evening. So for Commonwealth, you're adding 160,000,000 or $170,000,000 of core G and A for the deal and that's around five or six basis points of AUM versus I think LPL is running at nine basis points. I guess, one, is that the right way to look at it? And two, what would be driving that efficiency difference, if so?

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Yes, Jeff. I mean, I think that I wouldn't get too focused on the initial EBITDA and the initial expense guidance, because remember that is the existing Commonwealth business. We haven't integrated that, which we will through in the 2026. So I think really as we start to do that work and as we start to get to the run rate EBITDA of $415,000,000 I think broadly you're going to see a business that from a gross profit standpoint is similar to our business and from a margin standpoint is going to be in the same zone. So, I wouldn't get too hung up on the initial run rate numbers.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Kyle Voigt from KBW.

Kyle Voigt
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

Hi. Good evening, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. So it's been a volatile quarter for sweep cash. Obviously, there was a focus on the level of decline in May cash number.

Kyle Voigt
Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)

So it's good to see the rebound in June. Just wondering if you could hit on some of the bigger factors that drove the volatility in cash in the quarter, particularly over the past two months. And would be great to hear if there's been any change in yield seeking behavior or whether it's been driven by different factors. And then Matt, maybe you could also update us on July sweep cash as well.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Yeah, you bet. I mean, I think when you look at the quarter, it really is just driven by two factors. One, in April, which is the primary driver of the decline, is your typical seasonal items, the advisory fees coming out and tax payments. And as you noted, as you got deeper into the quarter, we saw some growth in June growing by 1,400,000,000 So I think overall, it's kind of an expected trend that you would see on the balances. But the primary driver, about two thirds of that, if you look at the cash percent of AUM coming down, is just the denominator growing.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

We've got a strong equity market. If you look at our AUM overall, it's growing almost $100,000,000,000 on average for the last several quarters in a row. So you just have the denominator growing. Cash balances themselves have been pretty stable around $5,000 per account for quite some time, several quarters in a row. So I think it's maybe to hit home the point, that percent decline is really just driven by tax payments as well as the denominator growing.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Now bridging into what we've seen so far in July, sitting here almost at the end of the month. Again, first month of the quarter, it's as expected with that seasonality and specifically advisory fees hitting in that first month of the quarter. For July, that's around $1,800,000,000 of a decline. Outside of that, cash balances were flat other than that, then fees hit. And then just to add on to that from an organic growth standpoint, very similar driver there, advisory fees reducing that in the first month of the quarter.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

And then to Rich's point earlier, that slowdown in industry wide advisory movement on the recruiting side, you'll see that carry over into NNA into the third quarter. We're seeing that in July. If you put that together, we'd expect organic growth in July to be in the 4% zone, which for month one of a quarter, I think is what you would expect. And I just highlight that is prior to any additional attrition that we'll have from the misaligned OSJs that are leaving. And just a reminder there, that was an overall $20,000,000,000 that we expected to depart.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

13,000,000,000 has already departed through Q2. So there's $7,000,000,000 more to go. And that's primarily direct business at this point, which is a little harder to see and predict when that's going leave, is why I didn't include it in the estimate. But again, no changes in the expected total there of $20,000,000,000 So, that helps.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Bill Katz from TD Cowen.

William Katz
Senior Equity Analyst at TD Cowen

Great. Thank you very much. Just maybe a couple of embedded questions. Inside of the AUM for Commonwealth, I was wondering if you could update us on the split between cash and rest of the business. And then secondly, the broader question just on liquidity and succession.

William Katz
Senior Equity Analyst at TD Cowen

What we continue to hear is that private equity firms continue to be quite aggressive in terms of scaling wealth management platforms. I'm wondering is that having any impact on the deal multiple in terms as you deploy that capital whether it be internally or externally? Thank you.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

Yeah, Bill, I can take both of those. Cash as a percent of AUM at Commonwealth is a little bit below ours, call it 1.5%, 2% zone. It's a little bit smaller balances there than we have. On the L and S side, the short answer is no. I think when you look at the multiples that we're paying, they've been consistent.

Matt Audette
Matt Audette
President & CFO at LPL Financial

I think the value prop that we have for a host of reasons including staying in LPL, staying in our system, the overall support that the team brings when they go into that model. I mean, I could go on and on and on. I think the price has not changed. The value prop is really what's driving that. And anything that from a private equity standpoint or the things that you had referenced has really not changed multiples that we're paying at all.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I would now like to turn the conference back over to Rich Steinmeier for closing remarks.

Rich Steinmeier
Rich Steinmeier
CEO & Director at LPL Financial

Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to speaking with you all again in October. Have a good night and go chase down the rest of those MLB trade deadline rumors. So long.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

Executives
    • Rich Steinmeier
      Rich Steinmeier
      CEO & Director
    • Matt Audette
      Matt Audette
      President & CFO
Analysts
    • Alex Blostein
      Managing Director at Goldman Sachs
    • Steven Chubak
      Managing Director at Wolfe Research LLC
    • Craig Siegenthaler
      Managing Director at Bank of America
    • Devin Ryan
      Director of Financial Technology Research at Citizen JMP
    • Dan Fannon
      MD - Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc
    • Benjamin Budish
      Director at Barclays
    • Michael Cyprys
      Managing Director at Morgan Stanley
    • Jeff Schmitt
      Research Analyst - Financial Services and Technology at William Blair & Company, L.L.C
    • Kyle Voigt
      Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)
    • William Katz
      Senior Equity Analyst at TD Cowen
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