NASDAQ:SMTI Sanara MedTech Q2 2025 Earnings Report $30.45 +2.98 (+10.85%) As of 02:25 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Sanara MedTech EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.23Consensus EPS -$0.33Beat/MissBeat by +$0.10One Year Ago EPSN/ASanara MedTech Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$25.83 millionExpected Revenue$25.15 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$681.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/ASanara MedTech Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date8/13/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, August 13, 2025Conference Call Time8:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Sanara MedTech Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 13, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Our Synera Surgical segment delivered net revenue of $25.8 million in Q2, up 28% year-over-year driven by soft tissue and bone fusion product sales, which fueled improved margins and generated $500 k of net income. Positive Sentiment: On a consolidated basis, we achieved a 43% improvement in net loss, a 350% increase in adjusted EBITDA, and generated $2.7 million of operating cash flow during Q2. Positive Sentiment: We expanded our commercial reach with agreements from over 400 distributors (up from 300), added 300 new healthcare facilities to reach 1,400, and increased surgeon penetration across new specialties like plastics and vascular. Positive Sentiment: Key product development milestones were achieved for AUSTiC, keeping us on track for a planned 2027 U.S. launch to address over 100 000 periarticular fractures annually. Negative Sentiment: Our Tissue Health Plus segment continues to operate at a loss, prompting us to initiate a formal strategic alternatives process and reduce 2H2025 cash investment to preserve capital. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallSanara MedTech Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Sonara MedTech Second Quarter of twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. Please note that this conference call is being recorded and a replay will be available on the Investor Relations page of the company's website shortly. The company issued its earnings release earlier today. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements on today's call include forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. For more information about the risks and uncertainties involving forward looking statements and factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected or implied by forward looking statements, please see the risk factors set forth in the company's most recent annual report on Form 10 ks as supplemented by the risk factors in the company's most recent quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Operator00:00:57This call will also include references to certain non GAAP measures. Reconciliations of those non GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP are available in the earnings release available on the Investor Relations portion of our website. Today's call will be hosted by Ron Nixon, Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and feature additional remarks from Seth Yon, President and Chief Commercial Officer Sam Mappala, President and Chief Executive Officer of Tissue Health Plus and Elizabeth Taylor, Chief Financial Officer. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Nixon. Operator00:01:36Sir, please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:38Thanks, operator, and welcome, everyone, to our 2025 earnings call. Let me outline the agenda for today's call. I'll begin by discussing our financial and operational highlights from the second quarter, followed by a discussion of our strategic priorities and key areas of focus for the balance of twenty twenty five. Seth will update you on the primary drivers of growth in our Synera Surgical segment and the progress made with respect to our commercial strategy. Sam will share an update on the recent progress made in our THP segment. Speaker 100:02:12Lastly, Elizabeth will review our quarterly financial results in further detail before we open the call for questions. With that, let's begin with a review of our second quarter financial highlights. Our surgical team delivered net revenue of $25,800,000 in the second quarter, representing 28% growth year over year. This impressive performance is a testament to our commercial team's pace of execution on our growth strategy as well as the strong demand we're seeing for our products in the market. Our net revenue growth was driven primarily by sales of our soft tissue products, which increased 28% year over year to $22,700,000 Specifically, sales of both our CELERATE Rx Surgical and BioSurg products fueled our performance. Speaker 100:03:00We also saw significant contributions from sales of our Bone Fusion products, which increased 25% year over year to 3,100,000 driven by growth across most of the products in the portfolio. In addition to achieving strong sales growth in our Senera Surgical segment, we enhanced our gross margins and realized significant operating leverage as well. This enabled us to deliver notable improvements in the profitability profile of the Surgical segment on a year over year basis. Specifically, we generated approximately $500,000 of net income in the 2025, an improvement of $2,700,000 We also generated $4,700,000 of segment adjusted EBITDA, an increase of $3,300,000 or 239%. Our Surgical performance helped to offset continued investment in our THP segment and positioned us to drive significant year over year improvements in our profitability profile on a consolidated basis, including a 43% improvement in our net loss and 350% improvement in our adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 100:04:12Lastly, we were pleased to generate $2,700,000 of cash flow from operating activities during the second quarter. Turning to our operational highlights in the second quarter. First and foremost, our surgical team delivered strong performance across all key metrics of the commercial strategy, as Seth will discuss further. In addition to our commercial team's progress, we made strides in our initiative to expand the portfolio of clinical evidence related to our two primary products, CellRate Rx and BioSurg. During the second quarter, four new clinical manuscripts focused on the use of our products were submitted to key academic journals for review. Speaker 100:04:51Expanding our portfolio of clinical evidence is an important component of our strategy to educate the market on the benefits and value that we believe our products bring to the treatment of surgical wounds. We look forward to discussing the results and findings presented in these clinical manuscripts once they are published. We also continue to advance our new product initiatives. As a reminder, in January 2025, we acquired the exclusive US marketing sales and distribution rights to two products for their use in managing periarticular fractures caused by a traumatic incident. These two products are caustic, a structural, mechanically enhanced bioadhesive bone void filler, and adjunctive fixation technology. Speaker 100:05:38When acquiring the rights to these products from their developer, Biomimetic Innovations Limited, or BMI, we structured the agreement with key product development, clinical and regulatory milestones. I'm pleased to report that BMI achieved two of these key development milestones during the second quarter. Based on this progress, we remain on track to launch during the 2027, as we stated previously. Our commercial team is excited by the prospect of commercializing AUSTiC to address the more than one hundred thousand periarticular fractures that occur in The United States each year. Last in our THP segment, we initiated our pilot program with the wound care provider group during the second quarter as anticipated. Speaker 100:06:23We also completed the acquisition of CarePix, which is an important part of our THP technology platform and continue to engage with both payers and potential financial partners. I'd now like to provide some thoughts on our priorities for the balance of the year, beginning with our THP segment. As Sam will discuss in greater detail, we've made significant progress on our THP related initiatives during the 2025. In parallel, we have actively managed our expenses in this segment to deliver against our stated expectations. For example, on our most recent earnings call in early May, we shared that we anticipated cash investment in our THP segment of $7,500,000 to $8,500,000 during the first half of the year, in addition to the $3,650,000 paid in connection with our acquisition of CarePix. Speaker 100:07:17We ultimately came in at the low end of the range with an actual THP related cash investment of $7,500,000 for the 2025, in addition to the $3,650,000 paid in connection with our acquisition of CarePix. Looking ahead, we're mindful of the existing level of cash used to support our THP related initiatives. I want to be clear that actively managing expenses by reducing the level of cash investment in our THP segment in the second half of the year 2025 to preserve capital is absolutely a priority for our organization. Specifically, we expect our level of cash investment in this segment during the 2025 to be between $5,500,000 and $6,500,000 In parallel, we're working to evaluate and pursue the best path forward for THP for the benefit of our company and its shareholders. As we announced in our earnings press release this morning, we have initiated a formal process to evaluate strategic alternatives for THP. Speaker 100:08:22We've also engaged a strategic advisor to assist in conducting this process. The intention of this process is to explore a full range of strategic alternatives with the ultimate objective of maximizing shareholder value, as well as to identify like minded partners to support the future growth of this business. Importantly, the company does not anticipate making material cash investments in THP after year end. While we're limited in our ability to communicate while this process is underway, we look forward to sharing future updates when appropriate. Stepping back, our Surgical segment performance in recent quarters has enabled us to achieve significant commercial scale with net revenues of $97,200,000 and segment adjusted EBITDA of $14,000,000 for the trailing twelve months ended 06/30/2025. Speaker 100:09:16We're off to a strong start in the 2025 with 27% growth in net revenue over the first half of last year, combined with significant improvements in the profitability profile of Synera Surgical. Our Surgical segment reported a net loss of $108,000 during the 2025. And we generated $7,400,000 of segment adjusted EBITDA, an increase of $4,900,000 or 193% year over year. Lastly, on a consolidated basis, we generated approximately $700,000 of cash flow from operations over the 2025 compared to cash used from operations of $3,000,000 over the same period in 2024. In the second half of twenty twenty five, we are focused on executing the strategies outlined for each of our business segments with the goal of delivering value to all of our stakeholders as we work to address significant unmet clinical needs in the health care industry. Speaker 100:10:18We're committed to preserving capital as we position Sonera MedTech to deliver strong, sustainable growth and long term value creation. I'll now turn it over to Seth to discuss the commercial execution in our Sonera Surgical segment. Speaker 200:10:33Thanks, Ron. I'd like to update you on the progress made by our commercial team with respect to three key initiatives that have been central to our recent performance and future growth. As a reminder, these are the three initiatives. One, developing our relationships with independent distributors. Two, selling into new health care facilities. Speaker 200:10:54And three, penetrating the existing health care facilities we serve. Beginning with the first of the three commercial initiatives, our team has made strong progress in expanding our distributor network by identifying, engaging, and contracting with quality distribution partners. At quarter end, we had agreements in place with more than 400 distributors compared to more than 300 this time last year. Given the significant expansion under distribution network, our emphasis has increasingly shifted to onboarding our recently contracted distributors and training their reps, Building relationships selectively with high quality distributors and pursuing a strategic approach to targeting, training, and partnering with their reps is one of the key ways our commercial team is positioning Sonera Surgical for strong, sustainable long term growth. Turning to our second commercial initiative, we continue to add new health care facility customers. Speaker 200:11:54Specifically, we expanded our customer base to include more than 1,400 health care facilities for the trailing twelve months ended 06/30/2025, compared to more than 1,100 facilities in the prior year period. Our traction on this front continues benefit from our strategy to leverage the local relationships of the distributor reps that we partner with, as well as the significant progress we have made in expanding the number of facilities that our products are approved or contracted with to include more than 4,000 across The US. With respect to our third commercial initiative, we increased our penetration of the existing health care facilities we serve by growing the number of surgeons using our products within these facilities. As I mentioned on our last earnings call, this represents one of the largest untapped areas of growth for our organization as the existing hospitals we serve remain vastly underpenetrated. I'm pleased to report that we are experiencing strong growth in our surgeon user base in the second quarter on a year over year basis. Speaker 200:13:00As a part of this effort, we continue to see success in adding new surgeon users outside of our traditional specialties of spine and orthopedics, including adoption of Sonera Surgical products by Plastics, General and Vascular Surgeons. To be clear, our rapid pace of progress in expanding our surgeon user base would not be possible if surgeons did not appreciate the compelling clinical benefits of our key products. Our product's ability to facilitate improved outcomes for high risk patients represents one of the primary contributors to the strong, sustainable revenue growth and significant commercial scale that our Scenario Surgical team has achieved in recent years. Lastly, with respect to BioSurg, our advanced surgical solution used for wound irrigation, we continue to be pleased with the rapid growth we have experienced in this product during the second year of its commercialization. As I've mentioned in the past, virtually all of our surgeons we serve use some form of wash, often a traditional saline solution to cleanse and prepare the surgical wound bed. Speaker 200:14:09With this in mind, we continue to see success in introducing BioSurg to our existing customers and their facilities as a product that is complementary to the procedures in which Celebrate Rx is used. In tandem, our team remains focused on securing more approvals for BioSurg at the existing facilities we serve in order to facilitate its long term growth. In summary, we believe our track record of strong sales performance and commercial execution demonstrates that we are pursuing the appropriate commercial strategy to capitalize on what we consider to be the vast, under penetrated market opportunity that remains ahead of us. I'll now turn it over to Sam to provide an update on Tissue Health Plus. Speaker 300:14:53Thanks, Seth. We are excited to discuss our pace of progress both during this past quarter and in recent weeks. As a reminder, during the initial month of the second quarter, we completed the acquisition of CarePix and its technology stack, which forms the foundation of our THP technology platform. We also announced the availability of our THP technology platform, which included the THP Copilot mobile app designed to standardize wound care and reduce administrative burden for wound care clinicians across all care settings. On the heels of these accomplishments, at the end of the second quarter, we began our pilot program as planned with a provider group that delivers chronic wound care and serves six states. Speaker 300:15:42Our pilot began at one of the provider's locations. There, the provider's clinical and administrative teams are using THP CoPilot integrated with the EMR to perform home based wound care. As a reminder, THB CoPilot consists of a mobile app designed for use by clinicians, which integrates both our software as a medical device and clinical decision support systems. These tools aid clinicians' ability to deliver precise and personalized wound care while not replacing their professional judgment. Supported functionality includes aggregating patients and appointment context from the EMR, encounter preview and preparation, patient and wound assessment with imaging, intervention and protocol guidance, follow-up care guidance for orders including DME, reimbursement guardrails and coding optimization, progress notes assistance, integration with the EMR to post encounter details. Speaker 300:16:50The goal of this pilot program is to help us further validate and optimize our THP technology platform while gaining real experience in its use with a provider in a real world clinical setting. The provider has begun conducting the first patient encounters as part of this pilot program, and we have been pleased with the initial performance of our THP technology platform to date. We believe our THP technology platforms, end to end platform architecture, and functionality are performing as designed, delivering a groundbreaking experience and bringing our vision to life. This pilot program is already providing us with information to refine our PHP technology platform and its implementation. As anticipated, we have obtained valuable insights related to the nuances of EMR integration, standard of care customization, user experience enhancements, and reimbursement adjustments. Speaker 300:17:52Concurrently, the client is taking us to hospital systems and home health agencies. This has further clarified our collaboration network functionality. Furthermore, we have enhanced our implementation playbook in response to insights gained from this pilot experience. In general, we are very encouraged by the provider's reception to THP Co Pilot. In addition to this progress related to our wound care pilot program, our team also continues to raise awareness of our THP offering in the provider market. Speaker 300:18:28Most recently, in July, we showcased our THP approach at the American Board of Scientific Medicine's Annual Scientific Meeting. In addition, the THP executive team and the advisory board were highlighted as speakers and panelists at the twenty twenty five Advanced Wound Care Summit in Boston. As a participant on the conference's executive panel, our chief scientific officer, Doctor. Ira Herman, and fellow panelists discussed how innovations like AI, telemedicine, and wearable technologies are reshaping the delivery of care. Through these and other initiatives, we continue to build a strong pipeline of interested providers. Speaker 300:19:11Looking ahead, we are preparing to expand the scope of our provider pilot program to include additional practitioners and locations in September, marking an important milestone for the THP team. In addition to these efforts, we continue to focus on launching a pilot program with a payer during the fourth quarter of this year. To that end, we are in active discussions with a multi state Medicare Advantage payer. We plan to leverage this payer pilot to establish a payer pricing and complete the build of a payer platform. Elizabeth will now review our second quarter financial performance. Speaker 400:19:51Thanks, Sam. Given that Ron covered our revenue results for the quarter, I'll begin with gross profit. Note that all percentage changes referenced throughout my remarks compared to the prior year period. Second quarter gross profit increased $5,700,000 or 32% to $23,900,000 Gross margin increased approximately two fifty basis points to 93 of net revenue, driven primarily by increased sales of soft tissue repair products and lower manufacturing costs related to CelerateRx Surgical. Second quarter operating expenses increased 2,900,000.0 or 14% to $23,900,000 The change in operating expenses was largely driven by a $2,600,000 or 14% increase in selling, general and administrative expenses and to a lesser extent, an approximately $300,000 or 28% increase in research and development expenses. Speaker 400:20:58The $2,600,000 increase in SG and A was driven primarily by $1,500,000 of higher direct sales and marketing spend in our Synera Surgical segment, partially offset by approximately $200,000 of lower costs in this segment and $1,300,000 of additional SG and A in our Tissue Health Plus segment. As a reminder, the Tissue Health Plus segment SG and A expenses are primarily related to the build out of certain aspects of the THP platform and infrastructure, which accelerated beginning in mid-twenty twenty four. The approximately $300,000 increase in R and D was due in part to the development of enhancements to the surgical product portfolio. Operating loss in the second quarter was $31,000 compared to a loss of $2,900,000 last year. Note, our surgical segment generated operating income of $2,500,000 in the 2025, an increase of $4,100,000 year over year. Speaker 400:22:04Other expense for the second quarter was 2,000,000 compared to approximately $600,000 of expense last year. The increase in other expense was primarily due to higher interest expense and fees related to our CRG term loan. Net loss for the second quarter was $2,000,000 or $0.23 per diluted share compared to a net loss of $3,500,000 or $0.42 per diluted share last year. By segment, as Ron mentioned, we were pleased to generate approximately $500,000 of net income in our Surgical segment compared to a net loss of $2,200,000 last year. Our Tissue Health Plus segment generated a net loss of 2,500,000.0 compared to a net loss of $1,300,000 last year. Speaker 400:22:53Adjusted EBITDA for the 2025 was $2,700,000 an increase of $2,100,000 or 350% year over year. Scenario Surgical generated segment adjusted EBITDA of $4,700,000 compared to $1,400,000 last year. And Tissue Health Plus generated segment adjusted EBITDA loss of 2,100,000.0 compared to a segment adjusted EBITDA loss of approximately $800,000 last year. Turning to the balance sheet. As of 06/30/2025, we had $17,000,000 of cash, dollars 44,200,000.0 of long term debt, and $12,250,000 of available borrowing capacity through 12/31/2025. Speaker 400:23:40This compares to $15,900,000 of cash, 30,700,000.0 of long term debt, and $24,500,000 of available borrowing capacity as of 12/31/2024. Lastly, a few considerations to bear in mind for the remainder of the year. Our net revenue performance in the second quarter modestly exceeded our expectations and we're encouraged by our momentum through the first half of the year. Our focus remains on driving strong net revenue growth in 2025, fueled by our Senera Surgical business. We also continue to anticipate strong profitability in our Senera Surgical segment for the full year. Speaker 400:24:23As Ron mentioned, during the second quarter, BMI completed two product development milestones under our exclusive license and distribution agreement. In connection with the terms of this agreement on 07/01/2025, Synera paid BMI €2,000,000 related to the completion of these milestones in exchange for 4,116 additional shares of BMI, bringing Synera's total ownership of BMI's outstanding equity to approximately 9.7% as of 07/01/2025. Between our current cash position, the anticipated cash flow from our Senera Surgical segment this year, and the available borrowing capacity on our existing facility, we're confident that we have sufficient financial resources to support our key growth initiatives. Lastly, as we noted on our last earnings call, we do not anticipate a material impact from tariffs on our results of operations in 2025. On behalf of the leadership team, I'd like to thank our colleagues across Senera MedTech for their contributions to our performance and progress as an organization. Speaker 400:25:37Thank you as well to our shareholders and customers for their support and everyone on today's call for their interest in SyneraMedTech. With that, operator, you may now open the call for questions. Operator00:25:52Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. We do ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask additional questions, we invite you to add yourself to the queue again by pressing star one. Operator00:26:19Our first question will come from Ross Osborne with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is live. Speaker 500:26:29Hey guys, this is Matthew Park on for Ross today. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess first on the distributors, can you walk us through how long it typically takes for a new partner to become productive in the field? And how should we think about the contribution curve from recently signed partners versus more established relationships? Speaker 100:26:48Seth, you wanna take that? Speaker 200:26:50Sure, Matthew. Good morning. Yeah. It really depends on a couple of things. What's the starting point in that market that they're in? Speaker 200:26:57Do we have already approvals in that market? And that's always our goal, certainly, is to enter into an agreement with a talented distributor network or group, that already has some traction, based upon the approvals that already exist. And so, you know, that learning curve is is relatively short. We do that by placing an RSM in that market as well to really being the driver in education alongside of our clinical team to all things that that distributor would need alongside of their surgeon. So it's those two things that really let us ramp and do that quickly. Speaker 200:27:29But that timing can vary depending on market based upon the approvals opportunities that exist there. But that can range in anywhere from days to certainly months, depending on the work that needs to be done to get up to speed. Speaker 500:27:43Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe one for Elizabeth. As you guys evaluate strategic alternatives for THD and continue to emphasize growth in surgical and bone fusion, how should we think about the cadence of OpEx as we move forward into 2026? Specifically, are there any areas within G and A or R and D where you see opportunities for leverage or any one time costs we should be making about? Speaker 400:28:05Sure, thanks for the question, Matt. Know, we have guided that THP for the second half investment will be between 5.5 and 6,500,000.0. And we do have additional off tick milestones. We are not positive when those will hit, but the total amount of the milestones is 2,000,000 Euro that we still will hopefully achieve, unclear as to the exact timing of that. And we have seen in the first half a bit of operating leverage. Speaker 400:28:39So that's been a really positive thing. And we don't comment anymore on future. Speaker 100:28:46Matthew also, this is Ron. We constantly are working on our key products for new innovation around our key products. And so that's an ongoing basis of our daily routine for our R and D. Speaker 500:29:02Got it. Super helpful. Congrats on the strong quarter, guys. Speaker 300:29:05Thank you. Operator00:29:09Thank you. Our next question is coming from Yi Chen with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is live. Speaker 600:29:24Good morning. This is Eduardo on for Yi. Question on the specific surgical segment and the product growth that you're observing. Excited to see that the bone fusion products are getting some increased traction. I'm curious about CELERATE, if you could add some color on specific growth for each of those products, CELERATE, Fortify and specifically BioSurg. Speaker 100:29:48Seth? Speaker 200:29:49Yeah, happy to take that one too. The soft tissue category as a whole has obviously been a great growth driver for us. And the backbone of that space is truly Celerate and BioSurg as kind of our one two punch, Celerate being the largest producer in that category and BioSurg quickly becoming the second largest producer. Really encouraged by how those continue to grow steadily, and we think we've got a lot of green space with both of those two products into the future. Speaker 600:30:17Got it. That's helpful. And regarding the kind of initiatives you guys mentioned you were adding, I don't know if I missed this specific number, adding new surgeons and increasing penetration in existing facilities. Do you have any more details on specific figures there and kind of any feedback you've been getting from clinicians that's making the product stick and grow in utilization in each of your facilities? Speaker 200:30:42Yeah. You know, as we talked about in in the call itself, it's really coming down to three core areas for us, and it's quality distributors under contract and getting them trained and up to speed and confident in our technologies. Then we expand by gaining access into facilities, whether that's contracted or new. And then how do we start to widen there? And I think everybody on this call recognizes over the course of the last few years, what we've built is our core businesses around ortho and spine. Speaker 200:31:09That is still our core business. But what it's done is really given us a great foundation inside of those facilities for us to then start with our RSM and distributors to work in partnership, to start seeking other specialties where there's great need for these technologies as well. And some of those areas that we've penetrated or started to penetrate it are now into that access surgeon space, plastics, general and vascular as well. And they're doing that in partnership at a great place. Speaker 600:31:38Okay. And I guess one final one on strategic thinking about THP. I guess just what's the big driver there looking for strategic alternatives instead of developing internally? What are the main decision points or data points you guys are looking at for that decision making process? Speaker 100:31:59Yes. Eduardo, this is Ron. If you we've made a significant investment into THP and we have taken it to the point that we think it's a good time for us to look at other strategic partners that could take the product from where it is today with their capital to complement what we've already done with our capital. And so just to continue to further expand that. So when we say that we're looking at our strategic alternatives, that is many things. Speaker 100:32:31That is not just a sale of the business or whatever. It's to really find strategic partners because in many of the calls previously, we've talked about kind of the core is you've got to have your patient engagements. You've got to have providers. You've got to have payers. And you've got to have product companies. Speaker 100:32:50So all those are good potential partners for us. Speaker 600:32:57Got it. Okay. Thanks for the clarity on that. Thanks for taking the questions. Mhmm. Speaker 300:33:02Thank you. Operator00:33:04Thank you. Okay. As we are currently seeing no remaining questions at this time, this will conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation and hope you have a wonderful day.Read morePowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Sanara MedTech Earnings HeadlinesSanara MedTech Sales Jump 28 Percent5 hours ago | theglobeandmail.comSanara MedTech Inc. Reports Second Quarter 2025 Financial Results (Unaudited)August 13 at 7:00 AM | globenewswire.comWashington Thinks They Own Your Bank AccountWhat If Washington Declared That: YOUR Money ISN'T Actually Yours? Sounds insane, but that's exactly what the Department of Justice just admitted in court—claiming cash isn't legally your property. What does that mean? It means Washington thinks they can seize, freeze, or drain your accounts—whenever they want.August 13 at 2:00 AM | Priority Gold (Ad)Sanara MedTech Inc (SMTI) Q2 2025: Everything You Need To Know Ahead Of EarningsAugust 12 at 6:54 PM | finance.yahoo.comSanara MedTech (SMTI) Projected to Post Quarterly Earnings on WednesdayAugust 12 at 2:21 AM | americanbankingnews.comSanara MedTech (NASDAQ:SMTI) investors are sitting on a loss of 12% if they invested three years agoAugust 10 at 1:36 PM | finance.yahoo.comSee More Sanara MedTech Headlines Get Earnings Announcements in your inboxWant to stay updated on the latest earnings announcements and upcoming reports for companies like Sanara MedTech? Sign up for Earnings360's daily newsletter to receive timely earnings updates on Sanara MedTech and other key companies, straight to your email. Email Address About Sanara MedTechSanara MedTech (NASDAQ:SMTI), a medical technology company, develops, markets, and distributes surgical, wound, and skincare products and services to physicians, hospitals, clinics, and post-acute care settings in the United States. The company offers CellerateRX Surgical, a medical hydrolysate of Type I bovine collagen indicated for the management of surgical, traumatic, and partial- and full-thickness wounds, as well as first- and second-degree burns; and HYCOL, a medical hydrolysate of Type I bovine collagen intended for the management of full and partial thickness wounds, including pressure ulcers, venous and arterial leg ulcers, and diabetic foot ulcers. It also provides BIAKOS Antimicrobial Skin and Wound Cleanser, a patented product that contains synergistic ingredients that have been shown to impact mature biofilm microbes; BIAKOS Antimicrobial Wound Gel, an antimicrobial hydrogel wound dressing that helps against planktonic microbes, as well as immature and mature biofilms; and BIAKOS Antimicrobial Skin and Wound Irrigation Solution. In addition, it develops BIASURGE, a no-rinse surgical solution used for wound irrigation; FORTIFY TRG, a freeze-dried, multi-layer small intestinal submucosa extracellular matrix sheet; FORTIFY FLOWABLE extracellular matrix, an advanced wound care device; TEXAGEN, a multi-layer amniotic membrane allograft used as an anatomical barrier with robust handling that can be sutured for securement; and VIM Amnion Matrix, a homologous wound covering product. Sanara MedTech Inc. was incorporated in 2001 and is based in Fort Worth, Texas.View Sanara MedTech ProfileRead more More Earnings Resources from MarketBeat Earnings Tools Today's Earnings Tomorrow's Earnings Next Week's Earnings Upcoming Earnings Calls Earnings Newsletter Earnings Call Transcripts Earnings Beats & Misses Corporate Guidance Earnings Screener Earnings By Country U.S. Earnings Reports Canadian Earnings Reports U.K. Earnings Reports Latest Articles CrowdStrike Faces Valuation Test Before Key Earnings ReportPost-Earnings, How Does D-Wave Stack Up Against Quantum Rivals?Why SoundHound AI's Earnings Show the Stock Can Move HigherAirbnb Beats Earnings, But the Growth Story Is Losing AltitudeDutch Bros Just Flipped the Script With a Massive Earnings BeatIs Eli Lilly’s 14% Post-Earnings Slide a Buy-the-Dip Opportunity?Constellation Energy’s Earnings Beat Signals a New Era Upcoming Earnings Applied Materials (8/14/2025)NetEase (8/14/2025)Deere & Company (8/14/2025)NU (8/14/2025)Petroleo Brasileiro S.A.- Petrobras (8/14/2025)Palo Alto Networks (8/18/2025)Home Depot (8/19/2025)Medtronic (8/19/2025)Analog Devices (8/20/2025)Synopsys (8/20/2025) Get 30 Days of MarketBeat All Access for Free Sign up for MarketBeat All Access to gain access to MarketBeat's full suite of research tools. Start Your 30-Day Trial MarketBeat All Access Features Best-in-Class Portfolio Monitoring Get personalized stock ideas. Compare portfolio to indices. Check stock news, ratings, SEC filings, and more. Stock Ideas and Recommendations See daily stock ideas from top analysts. Receive short-term trading ideas from MarketBeat. Identify trending stocks on social media. Advanced Stock Screeners and Research Tools Use our seven stock screeners to find suitable stocks. Stay informed with MarketBeat's real-time news. Export data to Excel for personal analysis. Sign in to your free account to enjoy these benefits In-depth profiles and analysis for 20,000 public companies. Real-time analyst ratings, insider transactions, earnings data, and more. Our daily ratings and market update email newsletter. Sign in to your free account to enjoy all that MarketBeat has to offer. Sign In Create Account Your Email Address: Email Address Required Your Password: Password Required Log In or Sign in with Facebook Sign in with Google Forgot your password? Your Email Address: Please enter your email address. Please enter a valid email address Choose a Password: Please enter your password. Your password must be at least 8 characters long and contain at least 1 number, 1 letter, and 1 special character. Create My Account (Free) or Sign in with Facebook Sign in with Google By creating a free account, you agree to our terms of service. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Sonara MedTech Second Quarter of twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. Please note that this conference call is being recorded and a replay will be available on the Investor Relations page of the company's website shortly. The company issued its earnings release earlier today. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements on today's call include forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. For more information about the risks and uncertainties involving forward looking statements and factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected or implied by forward looking statements, please see the risk factors set forth in the company's most recent annual report on Form 10 ks as supplemented by the risk factors in the company's most recent quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Operator00:00:57This call will also include references to certain non GAAP measures. Reconciliations of those non GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP are available in the earnings release available on the Investor Relations portion of our website. Today's call will be hosted by Ron Nixon, Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and feature additional remarks from Seth Yon, President and Chief Commercial Officer Sam Mappala, President and Chief Executive Officer of Tissue Health Plus and Elizabeth Taylor, Chief Financial Officer. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Nixon. Operator00:01:36Sir, please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:38Thanks, operator, and welcome, everyone, to our 2025 earnings call. Let me outline the agenda for today's call. I'll begin by discussing our financial and operational highlights from the second quarter, followed by a discussion of our strategic priorities and key areas of focus for the balance of twenty twenty five. Seth will update you on the primary drivers of growth in our Synera Surgical segment and the progress made with respect to our commercial strategy. Sam will share an update on the recent progress made in our THP segment. Speaker 100:02:12Lastly, Elizabeth will review our quarterly financial results in further detail before we open the call for questions. With that, let's begin with a review of our second quarter financial highlights. Our surgical team delivered net revenue of $25,800,000 in the second quarter, representing 28% growth year over year. This impressive performance is a testament to our commercial team's pace of execution on our growth strategy as well as the strong demand we're seeing for our products in the market. Our net revenue growth was driven primarily by sales of our soft tissue products, which increased 28% year over year to $22,700,000 Specifically, sales of both our CELERATE Rx Surgical and BioSurg products fueled our performance. Speaker 100:03:00We also saw significant contributions from sales of our Bone Fusion products, which increased 25% year over year to 3,100,000 driven by growth across most of the products in the portfolio. In addition to achieving strong sales growth in our Senera Surgical segment, we enhanced our gross margins and realized significant operating leverage as well. This enabled us to deliver notable improvements in the profitability profile of the Surgical segment on a year over year basis. Specifically, we generated approximately $500,000 of net income in the 2025, an improvement of $2,700,000 We also generated $4,700,000 of segment adjusted EBITDA, an increase of $3,300,000 or 239%. Our Surgical performance helped to offset continued investment in our THP segment and positioned us to drive significant year over year improvements in our profitability profile on a consolidated basis, including a 43% improvement in our net loss and 350% improvement in our adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 100:04:12Lastly, we were pleased to generate $2,700,000 of cash flow from operating activities during the second quarter. Turning to our operational highlights in the second quarter. First and foremost, our surgical team delivered strong performance across all key metrics of the commercial strategy, as Seth will discuss further. In addition to our commercial team's progress, we made strides in our initiative to expand the portfolio of clinical evidence related to our two primary products, CellRate Rx and BioSurg. During the second quarter, four new clinical manuscripts focused on the use of our products were submitted to key academic journals for review. Speaker 100:04:51Expanding our portfolio of clinical evidence is an important component of our strategy to educate the market on the benefits and value that we believe our products bring to the treatment of surgical wounds. We look forward to discussing the results and findings presented in these clinical manuscripts once they are published. We also continue to advance our new product initiatives. As a reminder, in January 2025, we acquired the exclusive US marketing sales and distribution rights to two products for their use in managing periarticular fractures caused by a traumatic incident. These two products are caustic, a structural, mechanically enhanced bioadhesive bone void filler, and adjunctive fixation technology. Speaker 100:05:38When acquiring the rights to these products from their developer, Biomimetic Innovations Limited, or BMI, we structured the agreement with key product development, clinical and regulatory milestones. I'm pleased to report that BMI achieved two of these key development milestones during the second quarter. Based on this progress, we remain on track to launch during the 2027, as we stated previously. Our commercial team is excited by the prospect of commercializing AUSTiC to address the more than one hundred thousand periarticular fractures that occur in The United States each year. Last in our THP segment, we initiated our pilot program with the wound care provider group during the second quarter as anticipated. Speaker 100:06:23We also completed the acquisition of CarePix, which is an important part of our THP technology platform and continue to engage with both payers and potential financial partners. I'd now like to provide some thoughts on our priorities for the balance of the year, beginning with our THP segment. As Sam will discuss in greater detail, we've made significant progress on our THP related initiatives during the 2025. In parallel, we have actively managed our expenses in this segment to deliver against our stated expectations. For example, on our most recent earnings call in early May, we shared that we anticipated cash investment in our THP segment of $7,500,000 to $8,500,000 during the first half of the year, in addition to the $3,650,000 paid in connection with our acquisition of CarePix. Speaker 100:07:17We ultimately came in at the low end of the range with an actual THP related cash investment of $7,500,000 for the 2025, in addition to the $3,650,000 paid in connection with our acquisition of CarePix. Looking ahead, we're mindful of the existing level of cash used to support our THP related initiatives. I want to be clear that actively managing expenses by reducing the level of cash investment in our THP segment in the second half of the year 2025 to preserve capital is absolutely a priority for our organization. Specifically, we expect our level of cash investment in this segment during the 2025 to be between $5,500,000 and $6,500,000 In parallel, we're working to evaluate and pursue the best path forward for THP for the benefit of our company and its shareholders. As we announced in our earnings press release this morning, we have initiated a formal process to evaluate strategic alternatives for THP. Speaker 100:08:22We've also engaged a strategic advisor to assist in conducting this process. The intention of this process is to explore a full range of strategic alternatives with the ultimate objective of maximizing shareholder value, as well as to identify like minded partners to support the future growth of this business. Importantly, the company does not anticipate making material cash investments in THP after year end. While we're limited in our ability to communicate while this process is underway, we look forward to sharing future updates when appropriate. Stepping back, our Surgical segment performance in recent quarters has enabled us to achieve significant commercial scale with net revenues of $97,200,000 and segment adjusted EBITDA of $14,000,000 for the trailing twelve months ended 06/30/2025. Speaker 100:09:16We're off to a strong start in the 2025 with 27% growth in net revenue over the first half of last year, combined with significant improvements in the profitability profile of Synera Surgical. Our Surgical segment reported a net loss of $108,000 during the 2025. And we generated $7,400,000 of segment adjusted EBITDA, an increase of $4,900,000 or 193% year over year. Lastly, on a consolidated basis, we generated approximately $700,000 of cash flow from operations over the 2025 compared to cash used from operations of $3,000,000 over the same period in 2024. In the second half of twenty twenty five, we are focused on executing the strategies outlined for each of our business segments with the goal of delivering value to all of our stakeholders as we work to address significant unmet clinical needs in the health care industry. Speaker 100:10:18We're committed to preserving capital as we position Sonera MedTech to deliver strong, sustainable growth and long term value creation. I'll now turn it over to Seth to discuss the commercial execution in our Sonera Surgical segment. Speaker 200:10:33Thanks, Ron. I'd like to update you on the progress made by our commercial team with respect to three key initiatives that have been central to our recent performance and future growth. As a reminder, these are the three initiatives. One, developing our relationships with independent distributors. Two, selling into new health care facilities. Speaker 200:10:54And three, penetrating the existing health care facilities we serve. Beginning with the first of the three commercial initiatives, our team has made strong progress in expanding our distributor network by identifying, engaging, and contracting with quality distribution partners. At quarter end, we had agreements in place with more than 400 distributors compared to more than 300 this time last year. Given the significant expansion under distribution network, our emphasis has increasingly shifted to onboarding our recently contracted distributors and training their reps, Building relationships selectively with high quality distributors and pursuing a strategic approach to targeting, training, and partnering with their reps is one of the key ways our commercial team is positioning Sonera Surgical for strong, sustainable long term growth. Turning to our second commercial initiative, we continue to add new health care facility customers. Speaker 200:11:54Specifically, we expanded our customer base to include more than 1,400 health care facilities for the trailing twelve months ended 06/30/2025, compared to more than 1,100 facilities in the prior year period. Our traction on this front continues benefit from our strategy to leverage the local relationships of the distributor reps that we partner with, as well as the significant progress we have made in expanding the number of facilities that our products are approved or contracted with to include more than 4,000 across The US. With respect to our third commercial initiative, we increased our penetration of the existing health care facilities we serve by growing the number of surgeons using our products within these facilities. As I mentioned on our last earnings call, this represents one of the largest untapped areas of growth for our organization as the existing hospitals we serve remain vastly underpenetrated. I'm pleased to report that we are experiencing strong growth in our surgeon user base in the second quarter on a year over year basis. Speaker 200:13:00As a part of this effort, we continue to see success in adding new surgeon users outside of our traditional specialties of spine and orthopedics, including adoption of Sonera Surgical products by Plastics, General and Vascular Surgeons. To be clear, our rapid pace of progress in expanding our surgeon user base would not be possible if surgeons did not appreciate the compelling clinical benefits of our key products. Our product's ability to facilitate improved outcomes for high risk patients represents one of the primary contributors to the strong, sustainable revenue growth and significant commercial scale that our Scenario Surgical team has achieved in recent years. Lastly, with respect to BioSurg, our advanced surgical solution used for wound irrigation, we continue to be pleased with the rapid growth we have experienced in this product during the second year of its commercialization. As I've mentioned in the past, virtually all of our surgeons we serve use some form of wash, often a traditional saline solution to cleanse and prepare the surgical wound bed. Speaker 200:14:09With this in mind, we continue to see success in introducing BioSurg to our existing customers and their facilities as a product that is complementary to the procedures in which Celebrate Rx is used. In tandem, our team remains focused on securing more approvals for BioSurg at the existing facilities we serve in order to facilitate its long term growth. In summary, we believe our track record of strong sales performance and commercial execution demonstrates that we are pursuing the appropriate commercial strategy to capitalize on what we consider to be the vast, under penetrated market opportunity that remains ahead of us. I'll now turn it over to Sam to provide an update on Tissue Health Plus. Speaker 300:14:53Thanks, Seth. We are excited to discuss our pace of progress both during this past quarter and in recent weeks. As a reminder, during the initial month of the second quarter, we completed the acquisition of CarePix and its technology stack, which forms the foundation of our THP technology platform. We also announced the availability of our THP technology platform, which included the THP Copilot mobile app designed to standardize wound care and reduce administrative burden for wound care clinicians across all care settings. On the heels of these accomplishments, at the end of the second quarter, we began our pilot program as planned with a provider group that delivers chronic wound care and serves six states. Speaker 300:15:42Our pilot began at one of the provider's locations. There, the provider's clinical and administrative teams are using THP CoPilot integrated with the EMR to perform home based wound care. As a reminder, THB CoPilot consists of a mobile app designed for use by clinicians, which integrates both our software as a medical device and clinical decision support systems. These tools aid clinicians' ability to deliver precise and personalized wound care while not replacing their professional judgment. Supported functionality includes aggregating patients and appointment context from the EMR, encounter preview and preparation, patient and wound assessment with imaging, intervention and protocol guidance, follow-up care guidance for orders including DME, reimbursement guardrails and coding optimization, progress notes assistance, integration with the EMR to post encounter details. Speaker 300:16:50The goal of this pilot program is to help us further validate and optimize our THP technology platform while gaining real experience in its use with a provider in a real world clinical setting. The provider has begun conducting the first patient encounters as part of this pilot program, and we have been pleased with the initial performance of our THP technology platform to date. We believe our THP technology platforms, end to end platform architecture, and functionality are performing as designed, delivering a groundbreaking experience and bringing our vision to life. This pilot program is already providing us with information to refine our PHP technology platform and its implementation. As anticipated, we have obtained valuable insights related to the nuances of EMR integration, standard of care customization, user experience enhancements, and reimbursement adjustments. Speaker 300:17:52Concurrently, the client is taking us to hospital systems and home health agencies. This has further clarified our collaboration network functionality. Furthermore, we have enhanced our implementation playbook in response to insights gained from this pilot experience. In general, we are very encouraged by the provider's reception to THP Co Pilot. In addition to this progress related to our wound care pilot program, our team also continues to raise awareness of our THP offering in the provider market. Speaker 300:18:28Most recently, in July, we showcased our THP approach at the American Board of Scientific Medicine's Annual Scientific Meeting. In addition, the THP executive team and the advisory board were highlighted as speakers and panelists at the twenty twenty five Advanced Wound Care Summit in Boston. As a participant on the conference's executive panel, our chief scientific officer, Doctor. Ira Herman, and fellow panelists discussed how innovations like AI, telemedicine, and wearable technologies are reshaping the delivery of care. Through these and other initiatives, we continue to build a strong pipeline of interested providers. Speaker 300:19:11Looking ahead, we are preparing to expand the scope of our provider pilot program to include additional practitioners and locations in September, marking an important milestone for the THP team. In addition to these efforts, we continue to focus on launching a pilot program with a payer during the fourth quarter of this year. To that end, we are in active discussions with a multi state Medicare Advantage payer. We plan to leverage this payer pilot to establish a payer pricing and complete the build of a payer platform. Elizabeth will now review our second quarter financial performance. Speaker 400:19:51Thanks, Sam. Given that Ron covered our revenue results for the quarter, I'll begin with gross profit. Note that all percentage changes referenced throughout my remarks compared to the prior year period. Second quarter gross profit increased $5,700,000 or 32% to $23,900,000 Gross margin increased approximately two fifty basis points to 93 of net revenue, driven primarily by increased sales of soft tissue repair products and lower manufacturing costs related to CelerateRx Surgical. Second quarter operating expenses increased 2,900,000.0 or 14% to $23,900,000 The change in operating expenses was largely driven by a $2,600,000 or 14% increase in selling, general and administrative expenses and to a lesser extent, an approximately $300,000 or 28% increase in research and development expenses. Speaker 400:20:58The $2,600,000 increase in SG and A was driven primarily by $1,500,000 of higher direct sales and marketing spend in our Synera Surgical segment, partially offset by approximately $200,000 of lower costs in this segment and $1,300,000 of additional SG and A in our Tissue Health Plus segment. As a reminder, the Tissue Health Plus segment SG and A expenses are primarily related to the build out of certain aspects of the THP platform and infrastructure, which accelerated beginning in mid-twenty twenty four. The approximately $300,000 increase in R and D was due in part to the development of enhancements to the surgical product portfolio. Operating loss in the second quarter was $31,000 compared to a loss of $2,900,000 last year. Note, our surgical segment generated operating income of $2,500,000 in the 2025, an increase of $4,100,000 year over year. Speaker 400:22:04Other expense for the second quarter was 2,000,000 compared to approximately $600,000 of expense last year. The increase in other expense was primarily due to higher interest expense and fees related to our CRG term loan. Net loss for the second quarter was $2,000,000 or $0.23 per diluted share compared to a net loss of $3,500,000 or $0.42 per diluted share last year. By segment, as Ron mentioned, we were pleased to generate approximately $500,000 of net income in our Surgical segment compared to a net loss of $2,200,000 last year. Our Tissue Health Plus segment generated a net loss of 2,500,000.0 compared to a net loss of $1,300,000 last year. Speaker 400:22:53Adjusted EBITDA for the 2025 was $2,700,000 an increase of $2,100,000 or 350% year over year. Scenario Surgical generated segment adjusted EBITDA of $4,700,000 compared to $1,400,000 last year. And Tissue Health Plus generated segment adjusted EBITDA loss of 2,100,000.0 compared to a segment adjusted EBITDA loss of approximately $800,000 last year. Turning to the balance sheet. As of 06/30/2025, we had $17,000,000 of cash, dollars 44,200,000.0 of long term debt, and $12,250,000 of available borrowing capacity through 12/31/2025. Speaker 400:23:40This compares to $15,900,000 of cash, 30,700,000.0 of long term debt, and $24,500,000 of available borrowing capacity as of 12/31/2024. Lastly, a few considerations to bear in mind for the remainder of the year. Our net revenue performance in the second quarter modestly exceeded our expectations and we're encouraged by our momentum through the first half of the year. Our focus remains on driving strong net revenue growth in 2025, fueled by our Senera Surgical business. We also continue to anticipate strong profitability in our Senera Surgical segment for the full year. Speaker 400:24:23As Ron mentioned, during the second quarter, BMI completed two product development milestones under our exclusive license and distribution agreement. In connection with the terms of this agreement on 07/01/2025, Synera paid BMI €2,000,000 related to the completion of these milestones in exchange for 4,116 additional shares of BMI, bringing Synera's total ownership of BMI's outstanding equity to approximately 9.7% as of 07/01/2025. Between our current cash position, the anticipated cash flow from our Senera Surgical segment this year, and the available borrowing capacity on our existing facility, we're confident that we have sufficient financial resources to support our key growth initiatives. Lastly, as we noted on our last earnings call, we do not anticipate a material impact from tariffs on our results of operations in 2025. On behalf of the leadership team, I'd like to thank our colleagues across Senera MedTech for their contributions to our performance and progress as an organization. Speaker 400:25:37Thank you as well to our shareholders and customers for their support and everyone on today's call for their interest in SyneraMedTech. With that, operator, you may now open the call for questions. Operator00:25:52Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. We do ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask additional questions, we invite you to add yourself to the queue again by pressing star one. Operator00:26:19Our first question will come from Ross Osborne with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is live. Speaker 500:26:29Hey guys, this is Matthew Park on for Ross today. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess first on the distributors, can you walk us through how long it typically takes for a new partner to become productive in the field? And how should we think about the contribution curve from recently signed partners versus more established relationships? Speaker 100:26:48Seth, you wanna take that? Speaker 200:26:50Sure, Matthew. Good morning. Yeah. It really depends on a couple of things. What's the starting point in that market that they're in? Speaker 200:26:57Do we have already approvals in that market? And that's always our goal, certainly, is to enter into an agreement with a talented distributor network or group, that already has some traction, based upon the approvals that already exist. And so, you know, that learning curve is is relatively short. We do that by placing an RSM in that market as well to really being the driver in education alongside of our clinical team to all things that that distributor would need alongside of their surgeon. So it's those two things that really let us ramp and do that quickly. Speaker 200:27:29But that timing can vary depending on market based upon the approvals opportunities that exist there. But that can range in anywhere from days to certainly months, depending on the work that needs to be done to get up to speed. Speaker 500:27:43Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe one for Elizabeth. As you guys evaluate strategic alternatives for THD and continue to emphasize growth in surgical and bone fusion, how should we think about the cadence of OpEx as we move forward into 2026? Specifically, are there any areas within G and A or R and D where you see opportunities for leverage or any one time costs we should be making about? Speaker 400:28:05Sure, thanks for the question, Matt. Know, we have guided that THP for the second half investment will be between 5.5 and 6,500,000.0. And we do have additional off tick milestones. We are not positive when those will hit, but the total amount of the milestones is 2,000,000 Euro that we still will hopefully achieve, unclear as to the exact timing of that. And we have seen in the first half a bit of operating leverage. Speaker 400:28:39So that's been a really positive thing. And we don't comment anymore on future. Speaker 100:28:46Matthew also, this is Ron. We constantly are working on our key products for new innovation around our key products. And so that's an ongoing basis of our daily routine for our R and D. Speaker 500:29:02Got it. Super helpful. Congrats on the strong quarter, guys. Speaker 300:29:05Thank you. Operator00:29:09Thank you. Our next question is coming from Yi Chen with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is live. Speaker 600:29:24Good morning. This is Eduardo on for Yi. Question on the specific surgical segment and the product growth that you're observing. Excited to see that the bone fusion products are getting some increased traction. I'm curious about CELERATE, if you could add some color on specific growth for each of those products, CELERATE, Fortify and specifically BioSurg. Speaker 100:29:48Seth? Speaker 200:29:49Yeah, happy to take that one too. The soft tissue category as a whole has obviously been a great growth driver for us. And the backbone of that space is truly Celerate and BioSurg as kind of our one two punch, Celerate being the largest producer in that category and BioSurg quickly becoming the second largest producer. Really encouraged by how those continue to grow steadily, and we think we've got a lot of green space with both of those two products into the future. Speaker 600:30:17Got it. That's helpful. And regarding the kind of initiatives you guys mentioned you were adding, I don't know if I missed this specific number, adding new surgeons and increasing penetration in existing facilities. Do you have any more details on specific figures there and kind of any feedback you've been getting from clinicians that's making the product stick and grow in utilization in each of your facilities? Speaker 200:30:42Yeah. You know, as we talked about in in the call itself, it's really coming down to three core areas for us, and it's quality distributors under contract and getting them trained and up to speed and confident in our technologies. Then we expand by gaining access into facilities, whether that's contracted or new. And then how do we start to widen there? And I think everybody on this call recognizes over the course of the last few years, what we've built is our core businesses around ortho and spine. Speaker 200:31:09That is still our core business. But what it's done is really given us a great foundation inside of those facilities for us to then start with our RSM and distributors to work in partnership, to start seeking other specialties where there's great need for these technologies as well. And some of those areas that we've penetrated or started to penetrate it are now into that access surgeon space, plastics, general and vascular as well. And they're doing that in partnership at a great place. Speaker 600:31:38Okay. And I guess one final one on strategic thinking about THP. I guess just what's the big driver there looking for strategic alternatives instead of developing internally? What are the main decision points or data points you guys are looking at for that decision making process? Speaker 100:31:59Yes. Eduardo, this is Ron. If you we've made a significant investment into THP and we have taken it to the point that we think it's a good time for us to look at other strategic partners that could take the product from where it is today with their capital to complement what we've already done with our capital. And so just to continue to further expand that. So when we say that we're looking at our strategic alternatives, that is many things. Speaker 100:32:31That is not just a sale of the business or whatever. It's to really find strategic partners because in many of the calls previously, we've talked about kind of the core is you've got to have your patient engagements. You've got to have providers. You've got to have payers. And you've got to have product companies. Speaker 100:32:50So all those are good potential partners for us. Speaker 600:32:57Got it. Okay. Thanks for the clarity on that. Thanks for taking the questions. Mhmm. Speaker 300:33:02Thank you. Operator00:33:04Thank you. Okay. As we are currently seeing no remaining questions at this time, this will conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation and hope you have a wonderful day.Read morePowered by