Oaktree Specialty Lending Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Negative Sentiment: The company reported adjusted net investment income of $0.37 per share in Q3, down from $0.45, driven by nonrecurring and noncash refinancing costs, falling below the $0.40 base dividend.
  • Positive Sentiment: Oaktree amended its senior secured revolver to SOFR+1.75–1.875%, terminated a higher-cost ABL facility, and expects these changes to reduce interest expense and accrete to earnings.
  • Positive Sentiment: With net leverage at a three-year low of 0.93x and approximately $730 million of liquidity, the company has significant dry powder for new investments.
  • Positive Sentiment: Q3 originations were all first-lien loans at a 9.1% weighted average yield, and management highlighted a robust, diversified pipeline spanning middle market, asset-backed, life sciences, Europe and infrastructure.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Nonaccruals declined as Telestream exited restructuring and Mosaic recoveries returned over 50% of the position, though Baymark’s underperformance remains an active workout.
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Oaktree Specialty Lending Q3 2025
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Operator

Welcome, and thank you for joining Oaktree Specialty Lending Corporation's Third Fiscal Quarter twenty twenty five Conference Call. Today's conference call is being recorded. Before we begin, I want to remind you that comments on today's call include forward looking statements reflecting current views with respect to, among other things, future operating results and financial performance. Actual results could differ materially from those implied or expressed in the forward looking statements. Please refer to the relevant SEC filings for a discussion of these factors in further detail.

Operator

Oaktree undertakes no duty to update or revise any forward looking statements. I'd also like to remind you that nothing on this call constitutes an offer to sell or solicitation of an offer to purchase any interest in an Oaktree fund. Investors and others should note that OCSL uses the Investors section of its corporate website to announce material information. The company encourages investors, the media and others to review the information that it shares on its website. I'll now turn the call over to Clark Corey, OCSL's Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Clark Koury
Clark Koury
MD, Credit Product Specialist & Head - Product Specialist Group at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Thank you, operator. Our third quarter earnings release, which we issued this morning, along with the accompanying slide presentation, can be accessed on the Investors section of our website, oaktreespecialtylending.com. Joining me on the call today are Armit Panossian, CEO and Co CIO Raghav Khanna, Co CIO Matt Pendo, President and Chris McCown, CFO and Treasurer. Now I'll turn over the call to Matt to provide an overview of our performance for the quarter. Matt?

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Thanks, Clark, and thank you all for joining our call today. This quarter, NAV was up slightly, and we made progress restructuring or exiting certain challenged names within the portfolio and reducing nonaccruals, which declined as a percentage of both fair value and cost. Adjusted net investment income declined to $0.37 per share, primarily due to the impact of certain nonrecurring and noncash items related to refinancing activities. We also experienced a lower than usual amount of nonrecurring income. Chris will share more details on non recurring income a bit later in the presentation.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Regarding our dividend, our Board approved a base dividend of $0.40 per share for the quarter. Turning to our balance sheet, there were several positive outcomes during the quarter. As mentioned on last quarter's call, we successfully amended and extended the maturity of our senior secured revolving facility, reducing the interest rate from the SOFR plus 2% to a range of SOFR plus 1.75% to 1.875%. This enabled us to terminate a higher cost ABL facility with pricing of SOFR plus 2.35%. Taken together, these will reduce our overall interest expense, which will be accretive to earnings going forward.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

There were some onetime costs as a result of these developments as we wrote up unamortized deferred financing costs that impacted our NII. With a strong balance sheet, ample liquidity and leverage at its lowest level in three years, we have meaningful dry powder to further diversify the portfolio and position OCSL for sustained growth. Now I'll turn the call to Armen to provide an overview of the market environment.

Armen Panossian
Armen Panossian
CEO, Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Thanks, Matt. Uncertainty surrounding the implementation of increased tariffs and their potential impact on inflation, the economy, and monetary policy deterred M and A activity, which remained muted. Consequently, most lending in the marketplace pivoted to refinancing existing debt rather than de novo buyouts. Robust CLO issuance in recent months has created some competition for deal flow, pulling some deals out of the private market and into the broadly syndicated loan market. These dynamics, coupled with the continued strength of fundraising for private credit, pushed credit spreads tighter.

Armen Panossian
Armen Panossian
CEO, Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Liquid credit markets also tightened, but it's important to note that private credit still offers an attractive premium. However, spreads on newly originated loans have reverted to the levels we saw at the start of the calendar year. Pricing for large cap sponsor loans is in the SOFR plus four twenty five to four seventy five basis points range, and spreads are 25 to 50 basis points higher in the core to upper middle market. OCSL has deep expertise in originating and structuring loans from middle market companies, and we are finding more value in this part of the market in the current environment. Beyond core middle market lending in The US, we are seeing pockets of opportunity in asset backed financing and life sciences, areas where Oaktree has extensive capabilities.

Armen Panossian
Armen Panossian
CEO, Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

We are observing increased opportunities in Europe, supported by a strengthening economic outlook and favorable valuation metrics. Concurrently, we are seeking to expand our capabilities across the Asia Pacific region and within infrastructure debt. Against this backdrop, credit quality has remained stable, and most problems are tied to company specific issues where management teams have not executed in line with expectations, creating financial pressure on their balance sheets and capital structure. We are also keeping a close eye on areas of potential risk within the portfolio, including the use of PIK income. In this regard, we have maintained a conservative stance and continue to rank near the low end of our peer set in PIK as a percentage of total income at 6.7%.

Armen Panossian
Armen Panossian
CEO, Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Even as spreads have tightened, our focus remains on high quality companies with strong credit profiles. We believe the long term outlook for direct lending will remain favorable. Yields are compelling on a gross unlevered basis, including at the top of the capital structure. The absence of mark to market volatility and the historically tight band of returns across different market environments make this asset class appealing to investors seeking income and capital preservation. Now I'll pass the call to Raghav Khanna to give an update on our portfolio.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Thanks, Armen. I'll start with investment activity for the quarter. While our overall investment activity was tempered due to the slower market environment, we leaned into opportunities that squarely met our portfolio objectives and disciplined underwriting standards. The weighted average yield on our new debt investments was 9.1%, comparable to 9.5% in the prior quarter, reflecting continued tight spreads in the marketplace. All our originations in the quarter were first lien loans, consistent with our strategy of investing at the top of the capital structure to provide greater downside protection.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

We are excited about our current pipeline and continue to see compelling investment opportunities even amid persistent inflation, elevated interest rates, and tariff related uncertainty.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

In this environment, we are selectively deploying capital into mature market leading businesses with solid fundamentals and consistent cash flows.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

We are also maintaining a granular diversified approach to portfolio construction, avoiding an industry concentration risk and steering clear of more cyclical businesses. The strength of Oaktree's global platform is a competitive advantage for OCSL. As one of a handful of lenders that has the scale to lead or participate in larger financings, our platform gives us access to high quality transactions that are often unavailable to smaller lenders. In addition, Oaktree's broad sourcing capabilities span both sponsored and non sponsored deals, stress and rescue lending, high yield, public credit, and asset backed transactions. This breadth allows us to evaluate a wide range of attractive opportunities in any market environment and allows us to lean into opportunities with the best risk adjusted returns.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

As of June 30, the median EBITDA of our portfolio companies was approximately a $161,000,000, a $3,000,000 increase from the prior quarter. The weighted average leverage in our portfolio decreased slightly from 5.2 to 5.1 times and the weighted average interest coverage slightly increased from 2.1 to 2.2. Now I'll share the details on two recent investments during the quarter that demonstrate our focus on portfolio diversification and first lien lending. Both were sourced through the broader Oaktree platform and underscore how we are leveraging the firm's extensive sponsor relationships and broaden market access to co invest in compelling opportunities. I'll begin with Jocin International, a provider of operational training solutions to air forces around the world.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

The business has close relationships with both The US and UK air forces. This investment expands our exposure in the countercyclical aerospace and defense industry, where demand for cost effective pilot training continues to rise amid persistent global pilot shortages. With long term government contracts in place, Draken generates recurring revenues by serving a critical market with predictable demand. This investment also aligns with our strategy to partner with institutional sponsors, Blackstone in this instance, to originate senior secured loans for resilient businesses operating in sectors with long term demand visibility. Oaktree was the sole lender in this new transaction, which Drockton used to refinance existing debt.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Oaktree committed to 217,000,000, of which a 177,000,000 was funded upfront. The deal was priced at Sonya plus $5.50 with two points of upfront fees. OCSL was allocated 31 spot 9,000,000, of which 26,000,000 was funded upfront. Turning to Lions Magnus. Founded in 1851, Lions Magnus is a leading food and beverage manufacturer of plant based beverages and flavor ingredients serving the food service, health care, and dairy industries.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Alliance Magnus maintains a top three market share position across its core product categories and has long standing relationships with leading QSRs, food service distributors, and healthcare providers, including the likes of Starbucks, McDonald's, and Cisco, customers that generate stable recurring revenue for the business. This is a great example of our focus on investing in established businesses with long standing customer relationships, diversified product offerings, and strong margin profiles. Alliance Magnus used the proceeds of the transaction to refinance its existing capital structure. This investment was sourced directly by Oaktree through a long standing relationship with the sponsor, Pinshorts Partners. Oaktree acted as joint lead arranger on the deal, providing a $150,000,000 commitment or 34% of the total transaction, and a 133,000,000 was funded upfront.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

OCSL was allocated $12,700,000, of which 11,200,000.0 was funded upfront. Now turning to our existing portfolio where we are seeing encouraging signs of progress in addressing nonaccruals. During the quarter, one company Baymark was added to the non accrual list and one company Telestream Holdings was removed. Baymark is one of the largest substance abuse and recovery treatment providers in North America. It is experiencing operational issues with its revenue cycle management systems and underperformance in certain business segments, resulting in cash flow and liquidity pressures.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

The company is working with turnaround professionals, and we are actively engaged with management to help them achieve the best possible outcome for the company and our loan. These situations take time to resolve, but our team has the experience and the discipline to navigate them effectively and drive favorable resolutions. We're pleased to report that Telestream Holdings, a video software platform that provides on demand digital video tools to broadcasters, media companies, and content creators, was removed from nonaccrual status after completing a comprehensive restructuring that helps reduce the company's debt burden and eased liquidity constraints. Additionally, we're beginning to realize meaningful exits and recoveries from previously challenged positions, which were contributing factors to the decline in non accruals as a percentage of the overall portfolio. One notable example is Mosaic, where we received cash pay downs totaling $25,700,000 or just over 50% of our total position during the quarter.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

We remain focused on working through challenged positions and maximizing recoveries. Moving now to exit and repayment activity during the quarter. Investment exits decreased to 249,000,000, down from $279,000,000 in the prior quarter. One exit worth mentioning is Alto, a digital pharmacy company which was merged into Let's Get Checked to create a comprehensive platform combining pharmacy, diagnostics, and virtual care. The loan for Alto had been marked at 85 and 95 as of 12/31/2024 and 03/31/2025 respectively and was taken out at par in connection with the merger.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Looking to the second half of the year, we are very encouraged by the depth and diversity of the opportunities we are seeing across sectors, structures, and sponsors. We are leaning hard into our strengths, our deep industry relationships, broad market access, and due diligence and underwriting expertise to continue building a well diversified portfolio that can deliver sustained long term performance. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Chris.

Christopher McKown
Christopher McKown
CFO, Treasurer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Thank you, Raghav. Let's review our financial results. In our third fiscal quarter ending 06/30/2025, we delivered adjusted net investment income of $32,500,000 or $0.37 per share, as compared to $38,700,000 or $0.45 per share in the prior quarter. The decrease for the quarter was primarily driven by non recurring and non cash expenses related to refinancing activities, as well as a decline in non recurring income, which we generally define as things like prepayment fees and OID acceleration. To drill into that a bit, our trailing eight quarter median amount of non recurring income has been about $3,800,000 or 4.3¢ per share based on current shares outstanding.

Christopher McKown
Christopher McKown
CFO, Treasurer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Our June non recurring income came in around $2,100,000 less or a little over $02 less than this median level. Adjusted total investment income in the quarter declined $2,900,000 compared to the prior quarter, primarily due to the reasons I just mentioned, as well as a modestly smaller average portfolio, the impact of tightening spreads and lower dividend income from the Kemper JV. Net expenses increased $3,500,000 from the prior quarter, driven by a $2,900,000 increase in interest expense due to $3,900,000 of non recurring and non cash expense related to the acceleration of certain deferred financing costs in connection with the termination of the Citibank SPV facility and the amendment of our revolving credit facility. This was partially offset by lower average borrowings outstanding during the quarter and reduced interest rates for the amended credit facility. Our weighted average interest rate at June 30 was 6.6% compared to 6.7% at the end of the prior quarter.

Christopher McKown
Christopher McKown
CFO, Treasurer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Our net leverage ratio at quarter end was 0.93 times, flat from last quarter, and total debt outstanding was $1,460,000,000 Unsecured debt represented 65% of total debt at quarter end consistent with last quarter. We have ample dry powder to fund investment commitments with liquidity of approximately $730,000,000 including $80,000,000 of cash and $650,000,000 of undrawn capacity on our credit facilities. Unfunded commitments, excluding those related to the joint ventures were $278,000,000 approximately $264,000,000 of which can be drawn immediately, as the remaining amount is subject to portfolio companies meeting certain milestones before the funds can be drawn. The target leverage ratio remains unchanged at 0.9 times to 1.25 times, and we are currently at the low end of that range due to a combination of successful investment exits in recent quarters and our prudent approach to deploying capital. Turning to our two joint ventures, together the JVs currently hold $442,000,000 of investments, primarily in broadly syndicated loans spread across 54 portfolio companies.

Christopher McKown
Christopher McKown
CFO, Treasurer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

During the third fiscal quarter, the JVs generated ROEs of 10.5% in aggregate. Leverage at the JVs was 1.3 times unchanged from 1.3 times last quarter. In addition, we received a $525,000 dividend from the Kemper JV. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator to open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Session.

Operator

And your first question today will come from Finian O'Shea with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Finian O'shea
Finian O'shea
Director, WFS Research at Wells Fargo Securities

Hey, everyone. Good morning.

Finian O'shea
Finian O'shea
Director, WFS Research at Wells Fargo Securities

First question on spreads this quarter, I think you were mid to upper fives, which is tracking better than most peers, obviously a very good thing. But the other side of the coin is we ask sort of how you were able to generate that maybe if it was non sponsor higher leverage or any color you could give us there? Thanks.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Hey, it's Raghup. Thanks for the question. So you're right. Both for the quarter and for the year, we have been able to achieve on first lien spreads, which are, call it, mid-500s, including OID. There's a few factors that are playing into it.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

So one is that does include the lower spread deals that you are seeing in the market currently. So we do have some deals that we've done this year, which are in that $4.50 to $4.75 range, and then OID will take you to just around 500. But we also have some higher yielding deals. There's been a couple of life science deals, which have been higher yielding. That's helped some of the non US deals we've done, such as the Draken deal, which we mentioned, which was Sonya plus 5.5 with two points of OID, that's helping as well.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

European spreads are slightly wider than what we're seeing in The US. And then the third thing I would say is there is a premium for refinancing deals versus brand new de novo LDOs. It's not huge, but it could be 50 to 75 basis points. And on the margin, that's something as well.

Finian O'shea
Finian O'shea
Director, WFS Research at Wells Fargo Securities

Okay. That's helpful. Thanks. And then just sort you know, back of the napkin here with the moving parts that you, you know, helpfully outlined on earnings, the one time, the facility fee and so forth. Those seem to roughly offset if that the impact of the look back and you're still below the dividend.

Finian O'shea
Finian O'shea
Director, WFS Research at Wells Fargo Securities

So I guess is the should we assume the main obvious lever to drive earnings that would be levering up? And then can you give color on how the discussions with rating agencies are in that regard given recent loss rates? Would they be comfortable with you going up to a 125 or so if that is the plan? Thanks.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Thanks, Ken. It's Matt. So, the plan isn't to go to 125, just to kinda hit that number. But the plan is to kinda be at the midpoint of our range. You know, our range is 0.9 to 1.25.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Right now, we're at 0.93. So we're which I think is the lowest we've been for for quite a while. And I think if you and we continue we have active dialogue with the rating agencies. They're aware of our plans. But one of our plan to your point to take leverage up is to take leverage up to create more earnings to support the dividend.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

So that's one. We feel comfortable with where we are with the agencies in doing that. Again, take it up to the midpoint of our range, not the top end of our range. I think as Raghav mentioned, our pipeline is pretty diverse and pretty robust. So we feel good about the ability to deploy.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

We also just kind of given where we are in the quarter, we have some visibility into repayment activity for the September quarter. We also another lever is the JV. The JV is now really focused on broadly syndicated loans. So taking some leverage up slightly there. Our target there is 1.5 times, we're at like 1.2 right now.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

So that's another lever. And then it's it's to take cash from the equity and the non accruals and put those into interest earning assets. So we talked about this quarter about Alto and Mosaic, which are two examples. Another example in July, we've we got the cash for the e e EOS Fitness, And there was a nice gain there, so we can redeploy that. So those are those that's the kind of the strategy.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

We're comfortable with the reading agencies in executing that. You know, it it won't necessarily happen in one quarter, but, that's the plan. And again, given kind of the pipeline visibility on repayments, some of the legacy non earning assets, put that all together, that's kind of how we think about things.

Finian O'shea
Finian O'shea
Director, WFS Research at Wells Fargo Securities

Thanks so much.

Operator

And your next question today will come from Melissa Wedel with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Melissa Wedel
Melissa Wedel
VP - U.S. Equities Research at JP Morgan

Good morning. Appreciate you taking my questions today. I wanted to start with some of the one time items. You've touched on them both in the press release and also on this call. When we back those out from the quarter, it kind of gets to earnings power a bit above the base dividend, but not by a ton.

Melissa Wedel
Melissa Wedel
VP - U.S. Equities Research at JP Morgan

I just wanted to revisit the level at which you reset the base dividend at $0.40 a share and just wanted to gauge your confidence in that level, especially with the forward curve sort of implying 100 bps of rate cuts in the next year or so.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Melissa, it's Matt. Thanks for the question. So I think I don't want to project out the dividend, the dividend subject to the board. So I don't want to do that. Think kind of the color a little bit to kind of last question The the one time items that that we outlined in terms of the

Melissa Wedel
Melissa Wedel
VP - U.S. Equities Research at JP Morgan

Matt, I'm sorry. You've you've cut out a bit. It's hard to hear you.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

And then

Operator

Pardon me, ladies and gentlemen. It appears we have lost connection to our speaker line. Please stand by while we reconnect. Thank you for your patience.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Melissa, can you hear us? Melissa? Melissa?

Melissa Wedel
Melissa Wedel
VP - U.S. Equities Research at JP Morgan

I can hear you. Okay,

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

okay. Sorry, we had some technical difficulties, so I'm gonna did I answer you? We're unclear when we cut out. Did I answer any part of your question? You

Melissa Wedel
Melissa Wedel
VP - U.S. Equities Research at JP Morgan

cut out pretty early actually. Sorry to be able to recap it.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Sure, sure. So I don't want to get into kind of the habit of projecting the dividend. The dividend is up to the board and they approve it every quarter. So I want to just focus kind of on where we work for this quarter in the $0.40 which is our base dividend. If you look at the add backs that Chris covered earlier, so you kind of adjust for that.

Matt Pendo
Matt Pendo
President & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

If you walk through kind of the what I just did with Fin regarding deployments and our pipeline there, our visibility into the prepayment activity for the quarter, so the progress we've made in turning non interest earning assets into interest earning assets. So you add all that together, that kind of got us comfortable with the base dividend of $0.40 As you look forward and there's obviously things outside of our control such as base rates and spreads, we're obviously we'll tackle those kind of quarter by quarter as they present themselves. But that's a little bit how we were kind of thinking about the $0.40 for this quarter.

Melissa Wedel
Melissa Wedel
VP - U.S. Equities Research at JP Morgan

Okay, appreciate that. When you you mentioned seeing some attractive opportunities, particularly in asset backed and also maybe infrastructure and even outside The U. S. I was hoping you could give a little bit more color on what particular flavor of asset backed opportunities you're looking at and infrastructure? Is there a certain kind of collateral that you're looking more carefully at and then others that you wouldn't consider? Anything you can share would be helpful. Thanks.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Yes. So Melissa, it's Margo. It's actually a very diversified pipeline of asset backed deals that we're looking at. It ranges really from everything from the rental car leases to small loans that are used to by homeowners to finance HVAC systems. So there's really no one particular threat.

Raghav Khanna
Raghav Khanna
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

The only kind of overarching threat here really is that the assets, unlike in the corporate loans that we make, the assets in these asset backed deals are a pool of contractual assets such as loans or leases. The other area that we have spent time on, but this is a market that has tightened is the SRT market. That is an area we have been spending some time on, but most of the SRT trades are either at levels which are inside three fifty spread, so not particularly interesting or are higher up on the risk spectrum and not interesting from a risk perspective. But away from SRT, we're still finding a pretty decent portfolio of pipeline of assets in asset backed deals.

Armen Panossian
Armen Panossian
CEO, Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director at Oaktree Specialty Lending

And Melissa, this is Armen. The only other thing I would add is what we're not doing much or any of in asset backed is really consumer unsecured debt. That's not something that we feel like we have an edge on. But where there is a corporate underlying borrower assets that are used in the corporate context, for example, equipment receivables or even in industries that we know very well like telecom and fiber optics, there are asset backed deals that we are seeing across Oaktree's platform and evaluating them for the BDC. Obviously, all of them will fit, but generally it's in categories and industries that we know well and it's just asset backed as a different wrapper, different structure for deployment into that same industry.

Melissa Wedel
Melissa Wedel
VP - U.S. Equities Research at JP Morgan

Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Clarke Cory for any closing remarks.

Clark Koury
Clark Koury
MD, Credit Product Specialist & Head - Product Specialist Group at Oaktree Specialty Lending

Thank you for everybody joining the call today. Please feel free to reach out directly to us to the extent you have any questions. We appreciate all of your support. Have a great day.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

Executives
    • Clark Koury
      Clark Koury
      MD, Credit Product Specialist & Head - Product Specialist Group
    • Matt Pendo
      Matt Pendo
      President & Director
    • Armen Panossian
      Armen Panossian
      CEO, Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director
    • Raghav Khanna
      Raghav Khanna
      Co-Chief Investment Officer & Director
    • Christopher McKown
      Christopher McKown
      CFO, Treasurer & Director
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