Clearfield Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: In Q3, Clearfield segment net sales rose 15% year-over-year, driving total net sales to $49.9 million, near the top of guidance.
  • Positive Sentiment: Gross margin jumped to 30.5% from 21.9% as a result of improved overhead absorption, inventory recoveries, and optimized North American capacity.
  • Positive Sentiment: Management increased the full-year net sales outlook to $180 million–$184 million and expects the Clearfield segment to grow in line with or above the industry.
  • Positive Sentiment: Product innovation remains a focus with the FiberFlex 600 cabinet, Tethr Smart MFT, and new home deployment kits all gaining traction and expected to drive future revenue.
  • Negative Sentiment: The Nestor segment saw weaker sales in Europe as some broadband providers delayed network builds, although margin improvements were modestly positive.
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Clearfield Q3 2025
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Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Clearfield Fiscal Third Quarter twenty twenty five Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please also note, today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor over to Greg McNiff, Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead.

Gregory McNiff
Managing Director at The Blueshirt Group

Thank you. Joining me on today's call are Sherry Baroneck, Clearfield's President and CEO and Dan Herzog, Clearfield's CFO. As a reminder, Clearfield publishes a quarterly shareholder letter, which provides an overview of the company's financial results, operational highlights, and future outlook. You can find both the shareholder letter and the earnings release on Clearfield's Investor Relations website. After brief prepared remarks, we will open the floor for a question and answer session.

Gregory McNiff
Managing Director at The Blueshirt Group

Please note that during this call, management will be making remarks regarding future events and the future financial performance of the company. These remarks constitute forward looking statements for purposes of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward looking statements. It is important to also note that the company undertakes no obligation to update such statements, except as required by law. The company cautions you to consider risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward looking statements contained in today's press release, shareholder letter, and on this conference call.

Gregory McNiff
Managing Director at The Blueshirt Group

The Risk Factors section in Clearfield's most recent Form 10 ks filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission and its subsequent filings on Form 10 Q provide a description of these risks. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Clearfield's President and CEO, Sherri Baronek. Sherri?

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss Clearfield's third quarter results. I will start by briefly reviewing the quarter, discussing Clearfield's long term strategy, the current state of the industry, and then turn it over to Dan for a summary of our performance and outlook. For more detailed information, please refer to our shareholder letter posted on the IR section of our website. Third quarter net sales of $49,900,000 were up 2% over the same period in the prior year and toward the top end of our guidance range, with Clearfield segment net sales up 15% year over year. We are especially pleased with the Clearfield segment's performance as we focus on our objective of growing faster than the industry and driving market share gains.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

Despite macro and Bead related uncertainty, the company is poised for continued long term growth as the industry returns to a normalized cadence. As we've mentioned on previous earnings calls, a trend we have been tracking for some time is the shift of electronics out of the central office to cabinets closer to the end user. As we highlighted last quarter, we designed our FiberFlex cabinet line to address this trend. Our FieldSmart FiberFlex 600 powered cabinet continues to be recognized for its innovative and customer friendly design. We are also expanding our reach deeper into the connected home.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

During the last quarter, we announced Tethr Smart MFT, which enables Clearfield to address new applications within and beyond the broadband ecosystem. As the industry's smallest, fully sealed, 10 port access terminal, the Tethr Smart MFT is purpose built for fiber to the home, fiber to the business, and five gs backhaul applications. Another key highlight in the quarter is the growing success of our home deployment kits, which combine the innovation of Clearfield's fiber deploy reels with the ease of packaging all components of a home install in a single SKU, and which are being broadly recognized for the labor saving opportunity they provide. We expect these products to contribute significantly to our future revenue growth. This product development reflects our continued focus on innovation that empowers service providers to meet evolving customer needs, whether in rural, urban, or suburban environments.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

However, the industry continues to change rapidly, and our ability to respond to these changes is key to our success. I'd like to take a few minutes to go a little deeper into our long term vision, which we view as three pillars upon which to build Clearfield's house. Our first pillar is protecting our core. Clearfield serves the needs of nearly a thousand broadband service providers. Whether they are a 100 year old independent telco or a competitive startup, our broadband service team is living alongside our customers.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

We will strive to protect these core customers by ensuring that their product needs for today and tomorrow are met. Our second pillar is to leverage our market position into further opportunity. Our customers are moving into new applications to leverage their fiber infrastructure, and we are committed to growing alongside them. For example, we have a customer which is a significant broadband provider in the Northwest that is currently using our solutions for wireless backhaul. We have another customer in the Midwest that has deployed our products in its data centers, and we are seeing our cabinets extend non hardened electronics to edge networks.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

These areas aren't new to Clearfield, but we believe they will be a significantly higher percentage of revenue as our customers adapt their business models. Our third pillar is to target select adjacent markets that we believe will allow us to expand our customer base and drive further growth. The modular nature of our product platforms driven by the ClearVue cassette will allow us to take existing products to new customers as well as design exciting new products for applications in emerging markets. An example of this is our recently announced Tethersmart NFT, which not only serves our existing customer base, but is under review by target customers in the wireless provider markets due to its ultimate configurability. This strategy is how we will expand from enabling a lifestyle of better broadband to our expanded purpose of enabling better broadband and beyond.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

The goal of this three pillar approach is to drive revenue growth as well as operational excellence, thereby enhancing long term shareholder value. Turning to the industry, the fundamentals of the industry remain strong. A leading market research firm projects the fiber industry to grow at a 12% compound annual growth rate over the next five years, with approximately one third of households expected to gain access to multiple providers. Similarly, industry analysts anticipate that the annual number of homes connected will outpace homes passed. Clearly, artificial intelligence, or AI, represents the next industrial revolution.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

As the demand for greater processing power continues to grow, communication infrastructure providers will be critical in connecting this ecosystem. Specifically, the power requirements for running AI are driving cloud providers to build multiple data centers while the need for low latency performance is pushing computing to the edge of that network. Both of these trends will require significant fiber deployments in the coming years. Going forward, we will discuss the investments we are making to ensure our customer base has the equipment and support necessary to meet this growing demand. We believe Clearfield is well positioned to benefit from these industry trends.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

I'd now like to turn the call over to our CFO, Dan Herzog, who will provide an overview of our financial results for the third quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five as well as to share our outlook for the remainder of the fiscal year.

Daniel Herzog
Daniel Herzog
CFO at Clearfield

Thank you, Sherry, and good afternoon, everyone. I will now review our third quarter results, beginning with sales. Third quarter net sales of $49,900,000 were up 2% over the same period in the prior year and toward the top end of our guidance range, with Clearfield segment net sales up 15% year over year. Gross margin for the period improved from 21.9% to 30.5%, driven by continued improvements in overhead absorption, recoveries of previously reserved excess inventory, as well as optimized capacity for current and growing product lines at our North American facilities. Net income per share of $0.11 was above our guidance range and reflects a significant improvement from the year ago period.

Daniel Herzog
Daniel Herzog
CFO at Clearfield

We continue to make progress on improving product costs while also managing the cost structure of our Nest segment. Despite lower revenue, driven by a redirected focus among broadband service providers toward operating rather than building out networks in some targeted countries in Europe, we saw a modest year over year improvement in gross profit margin for the Nester segment in the third quarter. As bookings have continued to outpace shipments through third quarter, lead times decreasing with deployments continuing in a healthy fashion, we are increasing our fiscal twenty twenty five outlook for net sales in the range of $180,000,000 to $184,000,000 As Sherri noted, we anticipate annual revenue growth for the Clearfield segment to be in line or above industry growth, while we expect annual revenue from our Nestor segment for fiscal twenty twenty five to fall slightly year over year as we continue to focus on improving margins. For our 2025, we anticipate net sales in the range of $47,000,000 to $51,000,000 and net income per share in the range of zero three dollars to $0.11 The net income per share range is based on the number of shares outstanding at the end of the third quarter and does not reflect potential share repurchases completed in the fourth quarter.

Daniel Herzog
Daniel Herzog
CFO at Clearfield

Our guidance reflects the evolving tariff situation currently in place, which we do not believe will materially affect our operating results. And with that, we will open the call to your questions.

Operator

To withdraw your questions, you may press star and 2. If you are using a speakerphone, we do ask that you please pick up the handset prior to pressing the keys to ensure the best sound quality. Once again, that is star and then 1 to join the question queue. And our first question today comes from Ryan Kunz from Needham and Company. Please go ahead with your question.

Ryan Koontz
MD - Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Great. Thanks for the question. I wanted to ask about, what I typically do around product mix and for your core Clearfield business. Are you still seeing, abnormally high connected home relative to what you consider norm? Are you seeing that come back and more into balance? Any thoughts on that?

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

We're definitely seeing the product mix for the past home come back to a more normalized cadence. I think that's reflective of the fact that there were a lot of cabinets that were sitting in yards over the course of last year and we're not seeing that as much this year. So we're definitely seeing an increase in cabinet sales. That said, we are seeing also an increase in the connected home as we enhance our share in the connected home revenue. So it's a little bit of both in regard to where we see the product mix for this year over last year.

Ryan Koontz
MD - Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Great. And just, yeah, just reflecting to last year, I know there were some inventory impacts to last year and, the core business is is up a bit. Think, I think you said, teens percentage year over year. Is that still aligned with what you've coming out of this quarter, what you've said before that the core Clearfield business is up double digits over last year on the inventory impacts last year?

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

Right, Clearfield, our Clearfield segment is up 15% year over year for the quarter. And so even though the total revenues showed a 2% increase, total revenues were negatively impacted by unfortunately our performance under the nester segment. Clearfield continues to do very strong in our markets, principally driven, this year and this quarter by our large regional and MSO business.

Ryan Koontz
MD - Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Got it. And and your new new new product introduced for connected home?

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

The home deployment kits are doing really well. And we're

Ryan Koontz
MD - Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Same SeaClear, what it was called?

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

They're called the home deployment kits. And so, these provide the opportunity to actually connect the physical home, with our drop cables and with a device that sits on the home itself and that by doing that one installer can do the work that was previously done by two. And so we're seeing some trials that have been underway now turning into ongoing revenue and new trials being started in different places. So we see that as a significant revenue opportunity for us. We see it demonstrated this year and are excited about where it's gonna go.

Ryan Koontz
MD - Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Great. Thanks for that. And then on the Amphenol acquisition of CommScope's connectivity business and and cabling, any any commentary there on what what you what you think that means for the industry?

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

Well, congratulations to CommScope for, figuring out, you know, how to be able to rebalance, you know, their financial situation. I think it's good for the industry that we don't have companies in financial distress. And so Amphenol's acquisition of CommScope I do think is good for the fiber industry. As they pointed out their focus is the hyperscalers, know the Amazons, the Googles and their deployment of fiber for AI. That's not a target of Clearfield's and so we see CommScope's focus there today and under the acquisition of Amphenol as being positive for them and not detrimental to us.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

In fact, our focus on AI is really part of our third pillar. It's the opportunity for not be serving inside of those data centers but to work with our community broadband service providers, our large regionals, and our MSOs to help provide the fiber that's gonna have to connect those data centers together.

Ryan Koontz
MD - Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Right. Great. Just one last one maybe for Dan on the gross margin. You mentioned consumption of E and O reserves on the quarter. Was that material on the Clearfield side?

Ryan Koontz
MD - Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Any idea how many basis points it was to gross margin?

Daniel Herzog
Daniel Herzog
CFO at Clearfield

Yes, it was probably about we last year, we had, I think, a $1,700,000 expense. This year this quarter, we had, a $1,100,000 gain, and I think it was about a 1.7% effect on it. And I do that based on our run rate. Like, if we would have just considered our run rate of recoveries, from we beat that. We had like 1,600,000.0 in recoveries and we've been running about 500 ks.

Daniel Herzog
Daniel Herzog
CFO at Clearfield

So, I figured that would be about 1.7 or eight of a change from our run rate.

Ryan Koontz
MD - Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Got it. Maybe one more for you, Dan, on on supply chain. You you've mentioned maybe some tight supply as you saw extended lead times. Any particular area you can point us to where you see tightness in supply chain?

Daniel Herzog
Daniel Herzog
CFO at Clearfield

Think that Sherri wants that one.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll go over that. No problem. Yeah, I would say that our challenges still go to battery backup and some rectifiers associated with the active cabinet business and so much of that is related to tariffs and is related to managing how that's brought into the country. We've been absorbing those costs rather than passing them along. That's not a, we're managing that aspect of it.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

The challenge just is it creates extra time issues on the border, know, things that have been difficult for us to get around. But like I said, we're our lead times have been better. On most, situations, it's just those electronic, challenges for the active cabinets.

Ryan Koontz
MD - Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Are you seeing any light in the tunnel as far as onshoring or bringing it to North America battery? I know there was, federal Yeah.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

Yeah. Right. I think the challenge there is just the timing and how long, that onshoring could take. So, we're we're considering alternative suppliers at this point.

Ryan Koontz
MD - Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Got it. Great. That's all I've got. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jason Schmidt from Lake Street. Please go ahead with your question.

Jaeson Schmidt
Director of Research - Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital

Yes. Thanks for taking my opportunities. Sherry, just wanna expand on sort of that data center opportunity you highlighted in the script. When you think about that market as a whole, how should we be thinking about that market impacting the P and L in a more sizable way? Is that kind of fiscal twenty twenty six story? Is it beyond? How are you looking at that?

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

I'd say there would be some, we have revenue today in the data center space but not in the big hyperscale space that is causing the big numbers at CommScope and Corning. That's not a space that we've chosen to participate in because it would be detrimental to just the lumpiness that how it affect our factories and our ability to really protect our core. We do believe we can participate in both the data centers that our customers are building as well as the data centers in our customers markets and that are gonna need to be connected. I think that we're gonna start to see some of that revenue slightly in '26, but more importantly in '27, at least that's what we're seeing at this point in time. We do have new products under development and we have made some investments in product marketing resources that to evaluate the right needs that we have there.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

So those are some exciting new additions that we put into the organization to better position us not to bring out like products but to bring out products foundationally using the modularity of the Clearview cassette that are fundamentally different. So there's a long runway yet in data centers and we wanna make sure that we do it the right way.

Jaeson Schmidt
Director of Research - Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital

Okay, that's really helpful. And then just as a follow-up, how should we think about OpEx trending the remainder of this calendar year?

Daniel Herzog
Daniel Herzog
CFO at Clearfield

Yes, we see our

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

Yes, go ahead, Dan. Sorry.

Daniel Herzog
Daniel Herzog
CFO at Clearfield

No, I was going to say OpEx probably trending slightly up here for our fourth quarter. We've got some trade show and some travel things going on, a little bit higher variable costs at the end of the quarter with as we ramp up our year end audits and a lot of consulting things regarding administration things.

Jaeson Schmidt
Director of Research - Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital

Got you. Thanks a lot, guys.

Operator

Our next question comes from Tim Savageaux from Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead with your question.

Tim Savageaux
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets

Hey, good afternoon. Have a question on the smaller carrier markets or really kind of The U. S. Markets in general. So you saw a small increase, I think amongst your smaller community broadband customers and but short of what you might typically see seasonally.

Tim Savageaux
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets

And I know you referenced pull ins in large regional. I mean, was there some of that dynamic at work amongst the smaller carriers as well? Or how would you characterize kind of what you're seeing here for both June and September is kind of a maybe less than normal seasonal build.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

Right, yeah the small carriers are the ones who have been the most impacted by the level of uncertainty associated with Bead. So you've got small carriers who are not in a position to jockey, lots of different builds, I mean they're gonna put their engineering and development resources into the area that they think is gonna be the most likely or most prominent. And so we're definitely seeing some carriers who would have been building expecting to have received Bead funding for fiscal year twenty five, not building at all because they didn't have their engine, not because they're not dedicated or committed to fiber but because they didn't have those other areas engineered and designed for deployment. So that's really frustrating on our part to see but it doesn't mean that we're gonna lose that revenue. It just means that that revenue has been delayed because of the uncertainty associated with the mess that has been created in the beef program.

Tim Savageaux
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets

Got it. And maybe along those lines, you mentioned kind of industry forecasts for this low double digit type growth rate. I know historically Clearfield has been targeting growth normalized post these big ups and downs in the same range. I mean, that a reasonable place to start as we look out to fiscal twenty six in terms of growth expectations and might this revenue pushing out a bit add to that or have a positive impact on that level of growth out in '20 Yeah,

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

I think for at this point in time with the uncertainty with Beads still out there, I'm comfortable with an outlook that's around the industry norms. We have been very clear that our goal is to grow as fast as the industry or faster in order to be able to take share. And we're in a position I think where we see that happening in all of our territory or within the large regions within the MSOs with really significant growth year over year. And then in community broadband, I think we're gonna see community broadband providers not putting all of their eggs in one basket and not being entirely dependent upon these financing. So next year we'll be more balanced than that.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

I would encourage you though to separate the growth initiatives on the numbers between the Nester segment and the Clearfield segment. And so that's why we brought out in this quarter some clarity around the last two quarters really, some clarity around what is Clearfield's organic revenue and what has been the incremental revenue associated with the Nestor acquisition in Europe. So industry growth rates are a little higher for the Clearfield segment and then flat for, it will be a little incrementally down in fourth quarter for Nestor but for next year flat as we focus that organization on improving cost structures through a changing product mix so that that organization can reestablish profitability.

Tim Savageaux
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets

Got it. And last one for me, you know, you're guiding kind of flat here for September. Notable moves among your end markets below that, that are worth calling out up or down?

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

We've seen, I'd say while we had traditionally we saw third and fourth quarters being where we saw the most of our revenues or most of our ordering patterns. Things came in a little bit earlier this year as people reestablished their buying trends. I think fourth quarter, we're going to see strong kind of continual demand from the clear fill segment with the European unfortunately continuing to be weak. And so you would see a similar mix between Clearfield and Nestor segment revenue in the upcoming quarter. In fact, perhaps a little bit higher Clearfield revenue than what we saw in third quarter.

Tim Savageaux
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Northland Capital Markets

Okay, thanks very much.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

Thank you.

Operator

And at this time I'm showing no additional questions. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any closing remarks.

Cheri Beranek
Cheri Beranek
President, CEO & Director at Clearfield

Thanks, Amy. And thank you all of you who are listening to the call today, either live or recorded. We do not take your trust in our management team lightly. We are very bullish on what we're doing and confident in our strategic plan. I look forward to outlining that further for you in the months and quarters ahead. And again, thank you for your support.

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, with that we'll conclude today's conference call and presentation. We do thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.

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      Cheri Beranek
      President, CEO & Director
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      Daniel Herzog
      CFO
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