Fortrea Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Fortria reported Q2 revenue of $710.3M, up 7.2% year-over-year with adjusted EBITDA of $54.9M and positive operating cash flow of $21.8M.
  • Negative Sentiment: A $309.1M goodwill impairment drove a net loss of $374.9M in Q2, despite adjusted net income of $17.6M.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Backlog stood at $7.5B with a book-to-bill ratio of 0.79x for the quarter, while new biotech customer win rates dipped amid leadership transition.
  • Positive Sentiment: The company achieved over $50M of its $150M gross cost savings target for 2025 and reduced permanent headcount by over 8% to support margin expansion.
  • Positive Sentiment: Fortria raised its 2025 revenue guidance to $2.6–2.7B and reaffirmed adjusted EBITDA of $170–200M, with positive cash flow expected in the remaining quarters.
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Earnings Conference Call
Fortrea Q2 2025
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Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Fortria Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. At this time, participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press 11 on your telephone.

Operator

You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Hema Inguva, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead.

Hima Inguva
Hima Inguva
Head - IR, Corporate Development & Competitive Intelligence at Fortrea Holdings

Good morning and thank you for joining Fortria's second quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. I am Himma Inguva, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development in Fortria. Before we begin, I want to share that this has been my last call leading Fortria's earnings call as I've decided to leave the company to pursue other opportunities. I'm incredibly proud of what we've built here and deeply grateful for the support of our investors, the commitment of our teams, and the opportunity to work alongside such a high caliber team. We have a robust transition plan for investor relations.

Hima Inguva
Hima Inguva
Head - IR, Corporate Development & Competitive Intelligence at Fortrea Holdings

It's my pleasure to introduce Tracy Krumi, a new head of IR who will be joining the call. Welcome, Tracy. I'd also like to welcome our new CEO, Anshul Thakral, who joined Fortrio on Monday. Anshul, we're excited to have you here. With all that said, I'm pleased to introduce our chairman, Peter Newberg, who served as our interim CEO in the second quarter, and CFO, Jen McConnell, as our speakers of the call today.

Hima Inguva
Hima Inguva
Head - IR, Corporate Development & Competitive Intelligence at Fortrea Holdings

The call is being webcasted, and the slides accompanying today's presentation have been posted to the Investor Relations page of our website, fortria.com. During this call, we'll make certain forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to significant risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. We strongly encourage you to review the reports we file with the SEC regarding these risks and uncertainties, in particular those that are described in the cautionary statement concerning forward looking statements and risk factors in our press release and presentation that we posted on the website. Please note that any forward looking statements represent our views as of today, 08/06/2025, and that we assume no obligation to update the forward looking statements even if estimates change.

Hima Inguva
Hima Inguva
Head - IR, Corporate Development & Competitive Intelligence at Fortrea Holdings

During this call, we'll also be referring to certain non GAAP financial measures. These non GAAP measures are not superior to or replacement for the comparable GAAP measures, but we believe these measures help investors gain a more complete understanding of results. A reconciliation of such non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in the earnings press release and earnings call presentation slides provided in connection with today's call. With that, I'd like to turn it over to our Chairman, Peter Newport. Peter?

Peter Neupert
Peter Neupert
Chairman at Fortrea Holdings

Thank you, Emma, and good morning, everyone. I'll add my welcome to Anshul and Tracy today. We're very pleased to have you both on board and hitting the ground running. Now let's turn to the second quarter, which showed another solid quarter of delivery. Portria revenue for the second quarter was 710,300,000.0 with adjusted EBITDA of $54,900,000 supported by our continued progress against the company's margin optimization initiative.

Peter Neupert
Peter Neupert
Chairman at Fortrea Holdings

The team continues to make progress with its transformation efforts, including reshaping the organization to align with its evolving pipeline mix and customer needs. Backlog as of 06/30/2025 stood at $7,500,000,000 and the book to bill ratio for the quarter was 0.79x, resulting in a 1.1 times book to bill for the trailing twelve months. While Portria did not achieve the level of net new business wins we would have wanted, there are positive signals in the quarter. The volume of RFP opportunities remains high and cancellations continue to be in line with our historical trends, although the company experienced some customer hesitancy in the quarter, primarily in new to Fortria Biotech customers as the team navigated the CEO leadership transition. Win rates remain consistent for existing large pharma and biotech customers, but declined for new to Fortria biotech customers.

Peter Neupert
Peter Neupert
Chairman at Fortrea Holdings

Fortria experienced a similar phenomenon prior to the spin and then saw that in a reasonably brief period of time, it was able to return to solid net new business wins with new customers once they saw that the focus on delivery remained strong and Fortria's leaders and employees were committed to their best interests. Other highlights from the second quarter include positive cash flow as expected. The company's liquidity is sound and its capital structure is balanced. Further, Portria provided updated guidance for the remainder of the year, increasing the revenue range and reaffirming its EBITDA range. Portria's business fundamentals are steadily improving as demonstrated in this quarter's performance.

Peter Neupert
Peter Neupert
Chairman at Fortrea Holdings

This progress reflects its strengthened operational delivery and position. Portrea's leading clinical pharmacology services reporting unit is in high demand with a combination of leading science and robust delivery. For example, the team delivered a bioequivalence trial ahead of schedule from first subject in to database lock for more than 500 participants in exactly one year, earlier than expected. The trial will enable regulatory submission for oral formulations of a life changing therapeutic that is currently only available in injectable form. In later phase clinical projects, second quarter delivery also was strong.

Peter Neupert
Peter Neupert
Chairman at Fortrea Holdings

The team had a flawless track record, and by that I mean early on time in its delivery of site initiation visits, as well as patient enrollment at the halfway mark of the study. Similarly, the metrics for ready to enroll sites and last patient in were all better than our benchmark targets. In an environment of global complex studies, this level of operational performance stands out and is reflected in our strong customer NPS scores. The company continues to invest in innovation and in its people. The second quarter saw the introduction of three new modules in the award winning Accelerate software platform.

Peter Neupert
Peter Neupert
Chairman at Fortrea Holdings

One example, RiskRadar, is an AI powered agent designed to enhance risk based quality management in clinical trials. It uses AI machine learning to automate risk identification and suggest mitigation strategies. RiskRadar reduces manual effort, improves operational efficiency, and strengthens patient safety protection. I'll wrap up my prepared remarks by thanking Fortria employees for their commitment and hard work over the quarter. I've seen this organization evolve over many years now in my role on the board.

Peter Neupert
Peter Neupert
Chairman at Fortrea Holdings

Over the past few months, I've gained a unique perspective serving as its interim CEO. I can tell you that this team is not only dedicated to advancing research, but is also remarkably resilient. They have definitely navigated the challenging journey to independence by staying focused on what matters most, motivated by a shared mission to bring new treatments to patients faster. Supported by a seasoned and collaborative leadership team of industry veterans, they are forward facing and looking to the future with optimism. I'm very pleased to have Anshul joining the team as CEO this week.

Peter Neupert
Peter Neupert
Chairman at Fortrea Holdings

Let me just say a few words about Anshul. He brings deep experience in life sciences, knows the CRO industry from the inside out, not only as an executive, but also as a customer. He also has a proven record of building companies and delivering profitable growth. Anshul is an outstanding and hands on leader, and I know the entire board joins me in welcoming him to Fortria. Anshul, now that you've been here for full forty eight hours, would you like to make any comments before we hand the call over to Jill?

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

Peter, thank you for that introduction. I'm very appreciative of the warm welcome from the board and from the Fortria team. While I've only served as CEO for a couple of days, I've already had some opportunities to speak with executives in the pharma and biotech industries whom I've worked with for many years. In the near term, I will be focusing my time on engaging both our customers and colleagues around the world.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

For the past few years, I have been on the customer side of our industry and a consumer of CRO services. That coupled with my time as an executive at PPD, I hope to bring a fresh perspective and energy to help drive our ambitions at Fortran. The fundamental value proposition for CROs remains solid even as marketing conditions have been a headwind for the industry in the recent past. For me, it's exciting to see how scientific and technological innovation is shaping the future of clinical development. Having delivered growth in this environment in my past career, I know what it takes for us to be successful.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

Having spoken with current Fortraya customers, both large pharma and biotech, I know they are pleased with how we deliver for them. My role will be to add fuel to our growth engine, bringing energy and discipline in a way that will yield value for our customers, our people, our investors, and ultimately, and most importantly for patients. I'm ready for this opportunity. I too want to thank Hema for all her efforts at Fortraya over the past few years. Additionally, I'd like to welcome Traci to the team.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

Traci, I look forward to working with you once again. But for now, let's return the call to the second quarter results and hand it over to Jill for a deeper dive. Jill, back over to you.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Thank you, Anshul, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. As a reminder, all my remarks relate to continuing operations of Fortria following the divestiture of our enabling services businesses last year, unless I note otherwise. I will start by saying that I warmly welcome Anshul and Tracy to Fortria and look forward to working with them to demonstrate the excellence I know this organization can achieve. I also want to thank Himma for her many contributions as we launch Fortria as a standalone company. As we put the two year spin transition firmly behind us, we welcome this next period as a time to take the grit and resilience we've built from the separation efforts and apply it fully towards enabling our customers to develop their life changing treatments and make them a reality for patients around the globe.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

It is time. In my prepared remarks, I'll cover the primary factors that influenced our second quarter performance and share an update on the steps we're taking toward achieving our 2025 guidance. I'll highlight our progress against our previously shared cost optimization initiatives. Additionally, I'll spend a few minutes highlighting improvements in our cash flow this quarter and our expectations regarding liquidity going forward. By the end of this call, I want it to be clear that we are continuing to take appropriate actions to improve our financial performance and capital profile.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

As Peter highlighted, we delivered a solid second quarter as demonstrated in our financial results. For the quarter, we delivered revenue growth along with sequentially higher adjusted EBITDA following continued execution of our margin optimization initiatives, including delivering one third of our $150,000,000 in gross savings targets in the first half. As expected, we generated positive operating and free cash flow and we delivered a five day improvement in DSO versus the first quarter as we began to unwind the temporary impact of the invoicing pause related to the implementation of our new ERP system during the first quarter. These results reflect focused execution across the organization and continued momentum toward our financial goals. This quarter marked the two year anniversary of our spin, along with successful exit from our former parent's TSA.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

This milestone is reflected in the year over year decline in one time spin related costs as we move towards a more efficient cost structure for Fortria. Now I'll cover the financial results in more detail. Second quarter revenue was $710,300,000 growing 7.2% versus the prior year quarter, driven primarily by an increase in revenue in our clinical pharmacology reporting unit, along with a small benefit from foreign exchange rates. Clinical development revenue was relatively flat as increases driven by recent net new business awards, including higher pass through costs, were offset by lower FFP revenue. On a GAAP basis, DREC costs in the quarter increased 9.8% year over year, primarily due to increases in pass through and stock compensation costs, along with a reduction in R and D tax credits, partially offset by lower personnel costs from our ongoing restructuring actions.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

The reductions in direct personnel costs in the quarter continued to more than offset the investments in merit and variable compensation that we've highlighted previously. Permanent headcount across all of Fortria is down more than 8% over the last twelve months as we carefully balance the need to reduce our cost base while continuing to deliver high quality services to our customers. SG and A in the quarter was lower year over year by 20.1%, primarily due to lower TSA and IT related costs, partially offset by the yield costs related to the receivable securitization program, along with an increase in personnel costs related to the reinstatement of merit and variable compensation. If you look at SG and A sequentially, excluding the impact of one time costs and the securitization yield costs, SG and A in the second quarter is 4% lower than in the 2025 and fifteen percent lower than our fourth quarter twenty twenty four run rate. This includes the absorption of merit and variable compensation noted above.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

I'll discuss more about our ongoing transformation efforts across the organization later in my remarks. Net interest expense in the quarter was $23,300,000 a decrease of $21,900,000 versus the prior year quarter, primarily due to the $475,000,000 debt pay down across our term loans made in June 2024. Because of that large pay down, our interest expense in Q2 of last year included a $12,200,000 write down of debt issuance costs. To better compare the year on year reduction, taking the combination of cash interest expense plus recurring securitization costs, it provides a spend that is approximately 18% lower in the second quarter of this year. Turning to our tax rate.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

The effective tax rate for continuing operations for the quarter was negative 1.1%. The rate was adversely impacted by an impairment of goodwill that has no tax benefit, an increase in our valuation allowance, the impact of BEAT, nondeductible compensation expenses, and withholding taxes for twenty twenty five non US earnings that are not permanently reinvested. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was relatively flat at $54,900,000 compared to adjusted EBITDA of $55,200,000 in the prior year period. Sequentially, adjusted EBITDA margin in the quarter was positively impacted by higher service fee revenue, along with lower personnel costs and operations as we continue to execute against our margin expansion initiative. Moving to net income and adjusted net income.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

In the 2025, net loss was $374,900,000 compared to a net loss of $99,300,000 in the prior year period, primarily due to a noncash pretax goodwill impairment charge of $309,100,000 related to our Clinical Development Reporting Unit. The charge was primarily a result of the decline in our share price since 03/31/2025, and to a lesser extent, a market based increase in the discount rate used for the valuation. There is no indicator of impairment in our Clinical Pharmacology Reporting Unit. Excluding the impact of the impairment charge, the quarterly net loss decreased year on year driven by the targeted reductions in our cost base. In the 2025, adjusted net income was $17,600,000 compared to adjusted net loss of $2,300,000 in the prior year period.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

For the current quarter, adjusted basic and diluted earnings per share were 19¢. Turning to customer concentration. Our top 10 customers represented 59% of second quarter twenty twenty five revenues. Our largest customer accounted for 13.2% of revenues during the quarter ending 06/30/2025. As I comment on cash flows, note that all references to prior year cash flows are for the entirety of Fortria as we had not segregated cash flows from discontinued operations for the businesses sold in June 2024.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

To more clearly see year to date and second quarter cash flow metrics, please refer to slide six in the investor presentation we released this morning. For the six months ended 06/30/2025, we reported negative operating cash flow of $102,400,000 compared to positive operating cash flow of $248,100,000 in the prior year period. The $350,500,000 reduction in year over year cash flow can largely be attributed to a few key factors related to our receivables. The year to date figure for 2024 included $298,000,000 in proceeds from our initial sale of receivables under our securitization program in June 2024, while 2025 includes the remaining negative impact of the temporary pause in invoicing in the 2025 to support our ERP transition. For the 2025, we generated positive operating cash flow of $21,800,000 and free cash flow of $14,300,000 in line with our expectations.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Days sales outstanding from continuing operations was forty six days as of 06/30/2025, five days lower than 03/31/2025, and eight days lower than the same period last year. The reduction versus the first quarter demonstrates our progress towards catching up on the delayed invoicing from our ERP transition. Net accounts receivable and unbilled services for continuing operations were $739,000,000 as of 06/30/2025, compared to $660,000,000 as of 12/31/2024, with the increase versus year end primarily driven by the increase in DSO and, to a lesser extent, higher revenue. We ended the quarter with $50,000,000 outstanding on the revolver. This balance improved sequentially compared to the $89,000,000 of borrowing outstanding as of 03/31/2025.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

We are targeting operating cash flow to be positive across the remaining quarters of 2025, driven by lower cash outlays for restructuring and spin related costs, as well as incremental cash generation from working capital. I want to be clear about this point. We believe that Fortria has ample liquidity with $400,000,000 available on our revolver as of 06/30/2025, plus more than $80,000,000 of cash on hand. We generated positive operating cash flow in the quarter and currently project to do so for the remaining quarters of 2025. Everything we have done and are doing, from our operational execution, our progress against our cost savings initiatives, and reaffirmation of our 2025 guidance underscores the continued improvement in our underlying financial performance.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

With our projected EBITDA and significant add backs available under the credit agreement, we expect that we will continue to have ample liquidity for the foreseeable future. As an important reminder, our credit agreement includes add backs well beyond what we include in our definition of adjusted EBITDA, such as pro form a benefits from in flight cost savings initiatives, Fortria's public company costs, and costs necessitated by the spin. The maximum net leverage ratio under the amended credit agreement ranges from 5.5 times to six times over the years 2025 and 2026 and reverts to 5.3 times as of the 2027. While we do not disclose our covenant calculations, we have considerable headroom, and our covenant leverage ratio under our credit agreement is significantly better than our reported leverage ratio, generally at least one turn better than our reported leverage. We are currently, and anticipate that we will remain, fully compliant with the financial maintenance ratios of the credit agreement for the foreseeable future.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

With our TSA exit behind us, we plan to focus our capital allocation priorities on driving organic growth and improving productivity along with debt repayment. Backlog burn this quarter was higher than the first quarter, supported by growth in our faster burning clinical pharmacology reporting unit, along with our progress to move clinical development awards into more intensive phases of their life cycle. We anticipate continuation of these first half trends in the second half. Although we are still seeing some delays in the startup of biotech projects, our analysis shows that once underway, these projects tend to burn more quickly than large pharma studies. As previously noted, FSP revenue is anticipated to be a headwind in 2025, but we are rekindling our efforts in FSP, including the launch of a dedicated sales team at the start of the third quarter, because we believe we can win attractive FSP work that can benefit both our margins and our customer base.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

We continue to target driving our commercial team towards achieving book to bill ratios in line with our peer set, but given the ongoing uncertainty in the macroeconomic environment and the recent leadership transition, it is not prudent to give guidance on book to bill. The pricing environment remains competitive and we are monitoring pricing feedback closely as we attempt to balance winning new business with achieving attractive margins. As previously shared, we are making targeted investments this year to expand our commercial coverage of biotech, recognizing that over time biotech organizations are expected to remain a compelling source of innovation and growth. Now I'll give an update on how we're executing against our transformation plans for 2025. As previously shared, we continue to execute against our target of gross cost reduction of $150,000,000 in 2025, with the expected net benefit of 90,000,000 to $100,000,000 this year, as some of the cost reductions are being offset by the reintroduction of merit and variable compensation.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

This 90,000,000 to $100,000,000 will be split, with roughly $50,000,000 improving gross margin and 40,000,000 to $50,000,000 leading to lower SG and A. Year to date, we have captured more than $50,000,000 in gross savings, with roughly $30,000,000 in net savings contributing to improvements in EBITDA. These savings have largely benefited gross margin, as we are targeting the SG and A savings to be more heavily weighted to the second half. Building on what we discussed back in May, through the second quarter we have increased our reduction in office square footage by a further 10% and rationalized a further 5% of the applications we inherited with the spin. We expect these optimization programs will extend into 2026 as we continue our efforts to bring our SG and A spend more in line with peers.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

For full year 2025, we are raising our revenue guidance and reaffirming our adjusted EBITDA outlook. Based on exchange rates as of 12/31/2024, we are increasing our revenue target to a range of $2,600,000,000 to $2,700,000,000 At the same time, we are reaffirming our adjusted EBITDA target in the range of $170,000,000 to $200,000,000 reflecting continued operational discipline. In terms of cash flow, for full year 2025, we are targeting operating cash flow to be marginally negative, with positive cash flow generated in the remaining quarters of 2025. In terms of modeling the 2025, we are targeting revenues in the third and fourth quarter to be more in line with the first quarter. The team at Fortria has shown phenomenal resilience.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

We've come through a complex spin, exited the TSA on time, and laid the operational and financial groundwork for the future. The level of commitment and focus I've seen from our employees is extraordinary. We've endured uncertainty, worked through significant change, and emerged with clarity and stability. And now we are exclusively focused on what is most important, delighting our customers and executing against our plans to improve our overall financial results. As we enter the next phase of our journey as a global leader in clinical development, we are closing the door to our transition phase and embracing our transformation phase.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Through it all, we have maintained strong engagement scores from our employees, delivered improved Net Promoter Scores, and built the discipline we need to steadily improve. We are excited about the future of Fortria. Operator, please open the line for Q and A.

Operator

Thank you. And our first question comes from Eric Coldwell of Baird. Your line is open.

Eric Coldwell
Managing Director at Baird

Thanks very much. Good morning. I have a two parter, both related. First, I'm just curious on these smaller newer to Fortria, hesitant biotech clients. Did they go a different direction or did they simply delay decisions?

Eric Coldwell
Managing Director at Baird

Is there some kind of commentary around, what was lost versus what was delayed coming out of 2Q as there was some hesitancy? And then more importantly, welcome to Anshul and Tracy. Anshul, I'm hoping you can make some additional comments on your commercial style, the skills you bring, relationships you bring to the company, how you approach building a successful commercial operation, and whether you've any, you know, forty eight hours in, whether you have any initial views on how your approach to building and developing the sales force and commercial marketing team, how that might differ from where Fortria is today? Thanks very much.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Thanks, Eric. I'll take the first part of that question, then I'll turn it over to Anshul for the second part. So with regard to the new for Tria biotechs, I think candidly those biotechs that made a decision to go in a different direction. It's not uncommon as we had mentioned and Peter mentioned remarks, we saw the same thing if you recall prior to the spin when there was some uncertainty about leadership. And we saw that very quickly dissipate once the leadership was in place and we removed.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

So while unfortunate, we're not expecting to have those same uncertainty concerns with customers going forward. So, we're hopeful that that is a relatively short period in transition. Anshul, I'll turn it over to you.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

Sure. Eric, thanks for the question. It's day three, so I'll answer what I can. In terms of commercial style, a couple of important things to point out. To me, this is a professional services business and I approach the CRO industry like a professional services business.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

It's to figure out what our customers' needs are, figure out what tools and capabilities we have to meet those needs. And more often than not, it's about delivering high quality results and trying to bend the time cost curve, Everything we did in my prior career to me achieving the commercial excellence here is about commercial excellence, financial excellence and operational excellence. That's what it will take to win the hearts and minds of our customers. But Eric, it's day three. Ask me again in Q3 and I'll have spent a lot more time with our customers by then and I'll have a deeper answer for you.

Eric Coldwell
Managing Director at Baird

Sounds good. Again, welcome to the shop. Happy to have you here.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Thanks, Eric.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Justin Bowers of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Justin Bowers
Justin Bowers
Equity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Hi, good morning, everyone, and welcome, Anshul. So also a two parter for me. Number one, can you discuss the overall demand environment in pharma and biotech and how that's evolved throughout the year? And then part two is just an update on the Phase one business that's been fairly robust for you guys. Are you still leaning on third party for capacity support?

Justin Bowers
Justin Bowers
Equity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank

And if so, when do you expect that to normalize?

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

Justin, thanks for the question. Let me take the first part about sort of our demand environment and I'll hand it over to Jill to talk about specifics in our Phase one business.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

Look, you know, I'm cautiously optimistic. We are seeing our fair share of RFPs. I agree with the broader market sentiment that's been expressed by others in the industry as well. We too are seeing our pipelines trending upwards both across biotech and large pharma. Now our lack of exposures to vaccines or government funded programs is a positive in this macro environment for us.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

In addition, as Jill has indicated and as Peter has indicated, our strong biotech pipeline is another positive for us and not being over indexed to any one customer segment is something I'm excited about here at Portraya. So with that, I'll turn it over to Jill to talk a little bit more about how our CPS business is performing.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Thanks Anshul. Justin, our clinical pharmacology business continues to be an industry leader and perform incredibly well. In fact, as we have shared previously, our biggest challenge at the moment is capacity constraints. And so that has caused us to have to shift some of that work to third parties. And we're continuing to refine scheduling to try to improve that.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

And we're hopeful in the future we'll be able to bring more of those awards in house. But continue to have great success there both operationally and scientifically and we're very excited about the continued building of that business.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Patrick Donnelly of Citi. Your line is open.

Patrick Donnelly
Patrick Donnelly
Managing Director at Citi

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking the questions. Maybe just a follow-up on the bookings environment. Can you just talk a bit about what you're seeing on the cancellation side? It sounds like, again, the visibility, you don't want to talk too much about the go forward book to bill.

Patrick Donnelly
Patrick Donnelly
Managing Director at Citi

But just trying to feel out, again, what you saw in the quarter, what the right way to just think about that cancel piece is? Just competitively, again, how you guys are doing on the win rates would be helpful just to talk through that a bit.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Sure, Patrick. I'll take that one. So in terms of cancellations, we have fortunately continued to see cancellations in line with our historic trends, which are relatively low. Our cancellations are actually even slightly lower than they were in the first quarter. So from a cancellation perspective, we've pleased to see that trend continue.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

In terms of win rates, they were relatively consistent with our existing large pharma biotech customers. But as we called out, we did see a drop in the new to Fortria biotech customers. And again, hopefully we'll see that start to turn around as we go through the second half.

Patrick Donnelly
Patrick Donnelly
Managing Director at Citi

Okay, understood. And then Joe, maybe just on the margin side, can you just talk about the moving pieces there? Obviously, that has moved around a little bit over the last few quarters. What the right way to think about just that launching point into next year is? And similarly inside that, pricing environment, it sounds like it's competitive, what that could mean on margins and maybe just a little more color on pricing. Thank you guys.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Yes, maybe I'll take pricing first. I mean, I think many folks have called out that the pricing environment is very competitive. We think that we're competing well. We continue to watch that. Our goal has never been to be the lowest price.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

We want to be priced at market. So we're monitoring those trends and adjusting as and where we need to. But I think at the moment we're handling that well. But we don't see anything incredibly aggressive. But I know it continues to be competitive as you know.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

In terms of margin, we're not at a point where we're going to talk about 2026 yet. But you will expect continuation and annualization, for example, of the initiatives that we put in place, in particular, as we've shared those SG and A ones that are more weighted towards the second half. So you'll have the benefit of those fully in 2026. And we also have talked previously about continuing to drive additional savings out of SG and A next year while we continue to try to improve gross margin. So I'm expecting to be able to share a little bit more about that in the future.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

But I think where we are today for the year, it's a little bit too early to talk about '26 margins.

Patrick Donnelly
Patrick Donnelly
Managing Director at Citi

Understood. Thank you, guys.

Hima Inguva
Hima Inguva
Head - IR, Corporate Development & Competitive Intelligence at Fortrea Holdings

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question comes from Elizabeth Anderson of Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

Elizabeth Anderson
Senior MD at Evercore

Hi, guys. Thanks for the question, and welcome, Angela. It's nice to catch up with you. I had a question just in terms of the outlook for the back half of the year. I think you called out that the guidance raised in terms of revenue was largely driven by FX.

Elizabeth Anderson
Senior MD at Evercore

And I just wanted to make sure I understood all the moving pieces on the EBITDA line. Could you just talk about sort of your FX exposure on sort of like a revenue versus EBITDA basis? And I know, obviously, you have the cost cutting benefits, but some planned investments. Could you just walk us through that to make sure we have all of our ducks in a row on that point?

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Sure, Elizabeth. I'm happy to. No, the raise is not related to FX. When we talked about it having a very minor impact, I think it was 60 basis points in this quarter. We're expecting it to be fairly similar as we go forward.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

I mean, obviously no one can predict where rates will go, but that is not the driver of the guidance range on the revenue side. So I think it's moving our projects more into intensive phases, especially some of the newer awards that we've won. And there is also some impact of pass throughs in there as well.

Elizabeth Anderson
Senior MD at Evercore

Got it. And so just in terms of how that flows down to EBITDA, if that's the case, is that sort of a reflection of some incremental investments or just some conservatism around the call? Just I guess with the revenue increase being more operationally driven, I'd just surprise not to see a little bit more flow through into EBITDA. So I just wanted to make sure I have that organized in my head.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Yes, sure. Elizabeth, a very fair question. But I think at this point, it's most prudent for us to maintain our guidance and we'll see how the year plays out. We're pleased with our progress against the margin expansion initiatives, but felt like it was appropriate to maintain our adjusted EBITDA guidance at this point.

Elizabeth Anderson
Senior MD at Evercore

Yes, that makes sense. Thank you very much for this

Operator

next question comes from Tucker Remmers of Jefferies. Your line is open.

Tucker Remmers
Tucker Remmers
Senior Associate at Jefferies

Hello, thanks for the question. Just kind of drilling into the second half guidance here. So it sounds like you guys expect a step down in revenue from the second quarter, but maybe more in line with first quarter. So I guess I'm just trying to put the pieces together of, you know, why is kind of burn rate maybe dropping back down in second half? And how do pass throughs play a role into that? Thank you.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Sure, Tucker. So I think we are expecting a little bit, especially towards the end of the year in moderation in pass throughs. They're still going to be elevated in the second half. But we actually have a very large, very heavy pass through driven study that was successfully ended early. And so one of the things that's been driving some of that higher one as that winds down will impact revenues in the back end of the year.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

I think what you'll see is revenues more in line with the first quarter, but with better margins on them. And as you can see relative to the maintaining of the adjusted EBITDA guidance as the cost savings initiatives continue to deliver.

Tucker Remmers
Tucker Remmers
Senior Associate at Jefferies

Got it. And then one more if I could. Just on like a large pharma environment, sort of it seemed like that that environment's been getting a little bit better, but maybe more stuck in the butt in second quarter versus earlier in the year. So I guess, can you explain like what large pharma customers are telling you and kind of where your win rate has been with those larger customers, not the biotech that sort of, they went somewhere else because of the CEO transition? And that's all for me. Thanks.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Sure, Tucker. With our existing large pharma customers, the relationships are strong. The win rates are consistent. We're continuing to get win new work from them and we're pleased with that. I think in terms of the conversations, everyone is dealing with the uncertainty and not knowing exactly where the environment is going to land.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

I think there was talk on the news on the way in this morning that we're going to hear some more news in the next couple of weeks. So we'll all wait and see what that looks like. But I think at this point, people are moving forward with making decisions and we've been pleased to see them continuing toward us new business. Thank you.

Operator

And our next question comes from Luke Surgatt of Barclays. Your line is open.

Jacob Putman
Jacob Putman
VP, Life Science Tools & Diagnostics at Barclays

Hey, this is Jake on for Luke. Thanks for the question. So you've given an initial 2026 framework around pre and post spend backlog and sales mix. But given the bookings this quarter, does the framework still stand? And also, what are you doing to increase confidence in those Narrative Fortraner customers? Thanks.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

So I think in terms of the pre and post spin, we did see continued improvement in post spin awards, adding to revenue this quarter. You saw that a little bit in the uptick in the revenues here in the quarter. I think we're continuing to monitor that situation closely and they're progressing in the same direction that we expected. They were of our full service clinical development revenue. They're about 30% of that portion of the revenue in the quarter.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

So a little bit higher than they were in the first quarter. So the guidance we had talked about previously about that reaching more than 50% of that subset of revenue in the back half of next year holds. I think, and sorry, this was the second. It was the, yeah, you want to take that on?

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

Yeah, sure. Jake, the second question was about how we think about the new to Fortrano customers. I think that this is where getting to the other side of the CEO transition is extremely important for us as a company. And this is where I see having the greatest impact here in the coming months. My role, as I said earlier, in the next few months is going to be to really engage our customers both perspective as well as current and our colleagues around the world. And that's how we plan to address it.

Jacob Putman
Jacob Putman
VP, Life Science Tools & Diagnostics at Barclays

Great. Thanks for that.

Operator

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question comes from Max Schmuck of William Blair. Your line is open.

Max Smock
Research Analyst - Healthcare at William Blair

Hey, good morning and thanks for taking our questions. Anshul, I know you've only been in the seat a couple of days here, but just thinking through or maybe a strategic one from our end, talked about leaning into FSP, making yourself more competitive in large pharma, but at the same time your win rates and down in small biotech. How do you think about prioritizing these opportunities moving forward? And where do you really want to lean in or see the most opportunity for share gains in the near future? Thank you.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

Max, happy to take that question. Look, I think with the uncertainty in the market we did see a dip in the win rates, but as Jill has said that's been with new to portray biotech customers. Our win rates have been fairly consistent with our existing customers in both customer segments. And so where I see opportunity is what I talked about earlier is continue to sharpen our commercial discipline, financial discipline and our operational discipline. But give me the ninety days to get out there and talk to our customers and colleagues and come back to you and ask me that same question again in ninety days max.

Max Smock
Research Analyst - Healthcare at William Blair

Fair enough. I'll hold you to that. Maybe just a quick one for me and apologies if you covered this. I know we've talked about burn rate a little bit already, but can you just walk through what exactly drove that big step up here in the quarter? And what's really changed as we head into the back half of the year?

Max Smock
Research Analyst - Healthcare at William Blair

I think even with your guide anticipating revenue comes down a little bit, still elevated burn in the back half. And before, I think we had talked pretty consistently about burn rate continuing to be under pressure. So can you just walk us through again the drivers in terms of what's really changed and what's driving that increase in burn rate here for the remainder of the year?

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Sure, Max. I think in the quarter we really benefited from the clinical pharmacology reporting unit as that continues to grow. We'll still see some benefit from that. As you know, it's faster burning and we're continuing to try to find ways to leverage the capacity we have. And again, pleased with how that business is performing.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

With the parts of the clinical development business, it's really as we're moving some of the newer awards into more intensive phases of their life cycle and some of the operational excellence that we've been able to drive. You heard Peter talk about some of those metrics in his remarks. I think it's allowing us to see a path to a slightly improved burn rate in the back half compared to what we originally thought, probably in the 8.5% to 9% range. So relatively consistent with first half trends.

Max Smock
Research Analyst - Healthcare at William Blair

Thanks again for taking our questions.

Operator

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question comes from Michael Ryskin of Bank of America. Your line is open.

Michael Ryskin
Michael Ryskin
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Great. Thanks for taking the question. First, I want to ask on cancellations a little bit more. Really encouraging commentary given what we've seen from others, especially the fact that you actually have cancellations approved from 1Q to 2Q. Just wondering why you think you're seeing better trends that we've seen elsewhere.

Michael Ryskin
Michael Ryskin
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Is this just a function of exposure and cancellations being a little bit more concentrated with certain specific large pharma sponsors where you may not have might not be as large part of the mix or just anything you're executing differently types of programs you're going to just any additional color on why you've been more resilient there and why you think that might continue?

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

I'll take that. I think in terms of cancellations, you're right. It is about who you're exposed to. We don't do government work generally. We don't have really a book of business in the government related or government funded work.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

And we have very limited exposure on the vaccine side, which I think is some of the issue that our peers have faced. We also have a relatively conservative bookings policy. So I think that also has helped us to keep our cancellation rates in check. But we monitor it constantly and we've been pleased to see that it's really remained in line.

Michael Ryskin
Michael Ryskin
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay, thanks. Jill, just piggybacking on, I think it was Elizabeth's question earlier on the EBITDA outlook for the second half. Just digging through the what you've seen in the first half so far and then just the rest of the cost savings program, if that gets you another, I think, 60,000,000, 70,000,000 net in the second half, that alone should get you more or less to your EBITDA target for the year. So is this just like you said, it's just a little bit of conservatism? Are those savings on the SG and A front coming later in the year so you won't see the full benefit in the second half?

Michael Ryskin
Michael Ryskin
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

You'll get the more in 2026. You could talk about the timing of those coming through. That'd be helpful.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Yeah, sure. I think you're right in that they're continuing to ramp particularly in the SG and A functions. As you remember, we had to fully exit the TSA and get up and running in the new ERP system, for example, which takes a couple of quarters before you can start to make broader changes. So some of it is the timing and some of it's also a function of how the service fee revenue will play out in the back half of the year with revenue numbers being slightly lower than they were in this quarter. There's a little bit of that impact as well. Those are the major drivers.

Michael Ryskin
Michael Ryskin
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

All right. Thank you.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question comes from Jalan Drisseng of Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Jailendra Singh
Jailendra Singh
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Thank you and thanks for taking my questions and congrats and best wishes Anshul and Tracy. Looking forward to working with you both. And Hema, best wishes to you as well and thanks for all the help in recent years. I want to follow-up on the win rate comments in biotech. It seems you were describing win rates outside of the impact, the CEO transition pretty stable.

Jailendra Singh
Jailendra Singh
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Just trying to better understand the market environment there. Are you seeing increased competition in the space with some of your peers calling out, making a push in that pocket more aggressively? Have there been any shifts in the average RFP time from issuance to award? Just give us a little bit more flavor about the market environment you're seeing outside of the CO transition impact.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

Yeah, I'm happy to take that question. I think in terms of win rates, I mentioned in my remarks, we're seeing still a little bit of the delays in the booking, although they seem to be kind of leveling off. So that's positive in terms of the time you see them until the time people are making decisions. Good science is still getting funded. We did have the impact of the transition in the quarter, which creates a perception of uncertainty.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

And that again, we were really pleased that that transition period was very short and we expect that to dissipate very quickly as we go through and have the competition. Yes, I think the market environment is competitive. All of our peers have talked about that. But again, with existing biotech customers we're still winning consistently. So we think it's just a function of now that we can take some of that leadership transition off the table.

Jill McConnell
Jill McConnell
CFO at Fortrea Holdings

We will be able to, we'll be fine there in terms of the new to Fortria customers. And with existing pharma, we're pleased to continue seeing good awards coming through and continuing to win and consistent rates in existing pharma.

Jailendra Singh
Jailendra Singh
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Okay. And Anshul, one for you. Not asking anything specific to Fortria, but given your strong background in the industry, I would love to get your thoughts on various conditions, headwinds, tailwinds the industry is going through or has gone through recently. You're clearly positive on the CRO industry in longer term, but would you be willing to share some thoughts on the trying to put the current environment in some perspective, like what it takes the industry to navigate through these challenges? What focus of technology, focus of transition, focus of clients?

Jailendra Singh
Jailendra Singh
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Just give us a little bit more flavor of putting the current environment in perspective given your experience.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

Sure, I'm happy to do that. I went through this decision making process as I thought about this industry and its fundamentals before joining the team at Fortraya. And I'm extremely excited with the choice I made to join this team. I will tell you, yes, you see some headwinds. You see some headwinds due to many of the macro level environment.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

We've talked about that. All of our competitors have talked about that, but I remain steadfast in the market fundamentals. What Jill just said a couple seconds ago, good science continues to get funded. And that's a statement that applies both at the pharmaceutical, large pharma companies and it applies at the biotech companies. Good science, good drugs continue to get developed.

Anshul Thakral
Anshul Thakral
CEO & Director at Fortrea Holdings

In the CRO industry is a fundamental tool by which these drugs continue to get developed. So, I stay steadfast in the long term fundamentals of the industry. And listen, that's really why I'm here and that's why I'm excited to be here. And as I've said a couple of times, over the next few months, I'm going to be traveling, meeting with our colleagues and our customers and really getting a feel for how we're going to leverage Fortress to ranks with that market backdrop that I just described.

Jailendra Singh
Jailendra Singh
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Okay. Thanks guys.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Peter Newberg for closing remarks.

Peter Neupert
Peter Neupert
Chairman at Fortrea Holdings

Thank you everybody for listening. It's exciting time in the industry. As Anshul just said, we're excited to have him on board and we look forward to sustaining our relationship with you.

Operator

Concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.

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    • Hima Inguva
      Hima Inguva
      Head - IR, Corporate Development & Competitive Intelligence
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      Anshul Thakral
      CEO & Director
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