Gladstone Commercial Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Acquired two industrial facilities totaling 519,093 sq ft for $78.95 million in Q2, boosting industrial concentration to 67% of annualized rents.
  • Positive Sentiment: Collected 100% of cash base rents and maintained portfolio occupancy at 98.7% as of June 30, 2025.
  • Negative Sentiment: Reported Q2 FFO of $0.33 and core FFO of $0.35 per share, down from $0.36 for both metrics in Q2 2024.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Industrial market fundamentals remain balanced with net absorption of 29.6 million sq ft, vacancy at 7.1%, and new completions at five-year lows.
  • Positive Sentiment: Achieved same-store rent growth of 6.4% for the six months ended June 30, driven by higher expense recoveries and rental rate increases.
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Earnings Conference Call
Gladstone Commercial Q2 2025
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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Gladstone Commercial Corporation Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to David Gladstone, Chief Executive Officer. Thank you. You may begin.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

Well, thank you for that nice introduction. You always do such a good job when you're heading up ours. We enjoy this time that we have with all of the people on the phone and wish we had more time to talk with all of you. Now I'll hear from Catherine Gurkus. She's our Director of Investor Relations at ESG, and she will provide a brief disclosure regarding certain regulatory matters concerning this call today. Catherine, go ahead.

Catherine Gerkis
Director - IR & ESG at The Gladstone Companies

Thank you, David, and good morning. Today's call may include forward looking statements, which are based on management's estimates, assumptions and projections. There are no guarantees of future performance, and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in these statements due to various uncertainties, including the risk factors set forth in our SEC filings, which you can find on the Investors page of our website, gladstonecommercial.com. We assume no obligation to update any of these statements unless required by law. Please visit our website for a copy of our Form 10 Q and earnings press release, both issued yesterday, for more detailed information.

Catherine Gerkis
Director - IR & ESG at The Gladstone Companies

You can also sign up for our e mail notification service and find information on how to contact our Investor Relations department. We are also on xgladstonecomps as well as Facebook and LinkedIn. Keyword for both is The Gladstone Companies. Today, we'll discuss FFO, which is funds from operations, a non GAAP accounting term defined as net income, excluding the gains or losses from the sale of real estate and any impairment losses on property, plus depreciation and amortization of real estate assets. We may also discuss core FFO, which is generally FFO adjusted for certain other nonrecurring revenues and expenses.

Catherine Gerkis
Director - IR & ESG at The Gladstone Companies

We believe these metrics can be a better indication of our operating results and allow better comparability of our period over period performance. Now let's turn the presentation to Buzz Cooper, Gladstone Commercial's President.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Thank you, Katherine, and thank you all for joining today's call. We look forward to updating you on our results for the quarter ending 06/30/2025, our current portfolio and our 2025 outlook. Starting with the broader economic environment, the 2025 was shaped by continued uncertainty. While the April 2 tariff announcements created initial volatility, the focus has since shifted toward a slower pace of decision making across the market. The businesses continue to evaluate how policy changes, financing conditions and global supply chain dynamics may impact their long term plans.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Larger businesses with enough scale have turned to build to suit opportunities, reducing any tariff noise for the foreseeable future. The ten year treasury yield fell briefly below 4% following the tariff announcements, but mostly hovered in the mid-4s for the remainder of the quarter as markets adjusted to mix signals around inflation, interest rates and future policy direction. Despite a more cautious environment, industrial real estate sector, which our company is a part of, remains steady. According to Cushman Wakefield, net absorption reached 29,600,000 square feet in the 2025, reflecting moderate growth quarter over quarter. For the industry, vacancy rate rose modestly to 7.1, driven by speculative deliveries, but remains in line with historical averages.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

This suggests the market is approaching a more balanced state. New construction completions during the quarter declined to the lowest level since the 2019, reflecting higher capital costs and a slowdown in the development pipeline. Cushman expects the construction pipeline to continue declining given market uncertainty and we expect this slowdown will place upward pressure on industrial rental rates and gradually reduce vacancies as industrial users compete for additional square footage to grow their businesses. Moving on to our company's portfolio, we remain confident headed into our next quarter beginning July 2025. During Q2 twenty twenty five, we collected 100% of cash base rents, acquired two industrial facilities encompassing 519,093 square feet for $78,950,000 increased portfolio industrial concentration as a percentage of annualized straight line rents to 67%, maintained portfolio occupancy at 98.7% as of 06/30/2025.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

We sold one office property for a gain of $377,000 and completed the sale transaction of one industrial property where we previously recognized a selling profit of $3,900,000 from a sales type lease. We increased our weighted average remaining lease term or WALT to seven point one years. This was another active quarter with $79,000,000 in capital deployed for new industrial acquisitions along with strategic and accretive capital deployment into our existing portfolio. This marks our second consecutive quarter of increased acquisition volume making the last two quarters our most active to date. We continue to be competitive in the market while maintaining a disciplined underwriting approach focused on credit quality, location and long term value.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

That discipline was on display in the acquisitions we completed this quarter and the numerous acquisitions we chose not to pursue. We evaluated hundreds of opportunities over the last year and declined many that did not meet our criteria whether due to credit concerns, overpricing or location risk. Our ability to act decisively reflects our continued focus on high quality mission critical assets aligned with our investment thesis. We are seeing long term tailwinds from reshoring and onshoring activity, and we believe these trends will continue to support demand for well located industrial space. The private placement bond issuance we completed in the 2024 help position us to execute with confidence, and we believe our disciplined approach will continue to create long term value.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Looking ahead to the third quarter, we remain focused on acquiring high quality industrial assets that are mission critical to tenants and industries and accretive to our long term strategy. At the same time, we will continue to selectively dispose of non core assets to further improve the portfolio. Our team is actively working to extend leases, capture mark to market opportunities and support tenant growth through targeted expansions, capital improvement initiatives and build to suit opportunities. We remain mindful of our overall leverage and are continuing to strengthen our balance sheet. With the ability via our line of credit, cash on hand and ability to raise equity on our ATM, we are well positioned to deploy capital into accretive industrial acquisitions.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Our portfolio continues to generate sustainable cash flow. We remain almost 99% occupied as of 06/30/2025, and we have not seen a material deterioration in tenant credit quality even in the face of higher for longer interest rates. I will now turn the call over to Gary to review our financial results for the quarter and liquidity position. Gary?

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

Thank you, Buzz, and good morning, everyone. I'll start my remarks regarding our financial results this morning by reviewing our operating results for the second quarter of twenty twenty five. All per share numbers referenced are based on fully diluted weighted average common shares. FFO and core FFO per share available to common stockholders were $0.33 and $0.35 per share respectively for the quarter. FFO and core FFO available to the common stockholders during the 2024 were both $0.36 FFO and core FFO for the six months ended 06/30/2025 were $0.67 and $0.69 per share respectively.

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

FFO and core FFO for the same period in 2024 were $0.69 and $0.70 per share respectively. Same store rents increased by 6.4% in the six months ended June 30 over the same period in 2024 due to increased property expense recovery revenue and increased rental rates from leasing activities subsequent to the 2024. Our second quarter results reflected total operating revenues of $39,500,000 with operating expenses of $25,100,000 as compared to operating revenues of $37,100,000 and operating expenses of $26,000,000 for the same period in 2024. Operating revenues were higher in 2025 due to increased recovery and higher rental rates. Expenses were lower in the 2025 versus the same period in 2024 mainly due to the crediting back of all the incentive fee in 2025 and lower depreciation and amortization expense offset by higher property operating expenses.

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

In Q2, we increased net assets from $1,160,000,000 to $1,200,000,000 which was mainly a result of the two acquisitions this quarter. Looking at our debt profile, 42% is fixed rate, 39% is hedge floating rate and 19% is floating rate, which is the amount drawn on our revolving credit facility and the Term Loan B and Term Loan D, which was the new term loan which we closed with KeyBanc this last quarter $20,000,000 with a term of two years. As of June 30, our effective average SOFR was 4.45%. Two of our outstanding bank term loans were hedged with $310,000,000 of interest rate swaps and we continue to monitor interest rates closely and update our hedging strategy as needed. As of today, our remaining twenty twenty five loan maturities are manageable at $3,100,000 As of the end of the quarter, we had $94,400,000 of revolver borrowings outstanding.

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

During the six months ended 2025, we sold 2,500,000.0 shares of common stock under our ATM program, net proceeds of $38,100,000 We also received net proceeds of $357,000 from sales of our Series F preferred stock through May 31. As of 05/31/2025, our Series F preferred offering matured and we will no longer be selling this issue. We continue to manage our equity activity to ensure that we have sufficient liquidity for all upcoming capital requirements and new acquisitions. As of today, have approximately $6,000,000 in cash and $25,000,000 of availability under our line of credit. We encourage you to review our quarterly financial supplement posted on our website, which provides more detailed financial and portfolio information for the quarter.

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

Common stock dividend is $0.30 per share per quarter or $1.2 per year. And now, I'll turn the program back to David.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

Well, thank you, Gary. That was a good report. And that was a good one from Buzz and Catherine too. The team has performed very well overall, just a very nice quarter. As you heard today in summary, during the second quarter, we acquired two industrial facilities for a total of just under $79,000,000 We sold one of our office properties, One more is gone, so that's good.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

And so we had a gain of about $377,000 on that one. We previously had recognized selling profit of about $3,900,000 from a sales type leases, and that's gone as well. I think your commercial team is really good at real estate. We own a good pace. We're going at a good pace, and the team is doing a great job managing the properties we own.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

Own a lot of properties, so we're going have a lot of people going out and making sure they're getting paid. Our team is a strong group of professionals that continue to pursue potential quality properties on the got a good list of acquisitions that they're reviewing now. Our acquisition team is seeking strong credit tenants. That's the first thing we look for. So why don't I stop here and we'll have the operator come back on and tell people how they can call in.

Operator

Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. Session. Our first question comes from the line of Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Gaurav Mehta
MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Real Estate and Financials at Alliance Global Partners

Thank you. Good morning.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Good morning.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

Good morning.

Gaurav Mehta
MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Real Estate and Financials at Alliance Global Partners

Can you guys talk about the acquisition pipeline? What are guys seeing in the market? And how's the volume?

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Thanks, Gaurav. We currently have six LOIs out. We are active in the market looking at, at this point in time, some 20 transactions. Of the six LOIs that are out hoping to hear on awarding of said transactions next week or the week thereafter. As you know, we've hit the summer period so it does slow down a bit.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

But we are hopeful of one of those transactions in the neighborhood of approximately $50,000,000 will come our way next week. And then behind that, we've got some twenty eighteen, 19 initial in initial review and we will work those diligently and as mentioned previously subject to our credit requirements as well as returns and hopefully land a few of those as well. But we anticipate also seeing an uptick as is generally the case coming out of the summer period heading back into school, if you will, with people back in the office.

Gaurav Mehta
MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Real Estate and Financials at Alliance Global Partners

Okay. Second question, can you remind us the background of the sales transaction of the industrial property that you guys sold?

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

If I understood your question, information on the industrial property we did sell?

Gaurav Mehta
MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Real Estate and Financials at Alliance Global Partners

Yes.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Yes. So that was a property down in Georgia, and they had a purchase option within the lease. So we obviously, they exercised that and purchased.

Gaurav Mehta
MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Real Estate and Financials at Alliance Global Partners

Okay. Understood. Then lastly on incentive fee waiver, looks like incentive fee was waived this quarter. Can you maybe talk about how you guys decide how much incentive fee is going to get waived? And how should we think about the waiver going forward?

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Well, we certainly have discussions with our management. As you know, the company is very aligned with the stockholder. So as a result of that, we take that into consideration on a quarterly basis and discuss with management. We obviously want to reward our employee base and retain them. And so we look at that again on a quarterly basis to do what's right for all parties concerned.

Gaurav Mehta
MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Real Estate and Financials at Alliance Global Partners

Thank you. That's all I had.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Thank you.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

Okay. Next question.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Craig Kucera with Lucid Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Craig Kucera
MD - Equity Research at Lucid Capital Markets

Yes. Hi, good morning guys. You had a pretty healthy increase in your G and A. I'm guessing that's related to a few core FFO adjustments such as prepaid offering cost write offs and the closing costs on sales. That the correct way to read through on that?

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

Yes, that's correct. Also in the second quarter, we have some additional expenses due to our annual meetings.

Craig Kucera
MD - Equity Research at Lucid Capital Markets

Got it. Okay. So you've been very aggressive here in the first half of the year as far as the acquisition market. Your leverage has ticked up, but it's still flat year over year. Are you looking to maybe press leverage a little further in the back half of the year to close a $50,000,000 transaction or in excess of that?

Craig Kucera
MD - Equity Research at Lucid Capital Markets

Or how are you thinking about funding growth going forward?

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

Rather not press leverage. I mean, we had to a little bit, we would. But I think we're trying to our goal here is to try to get that leverage down again. I mean, did again as you said go up a little bit, but that was to digest all of those acquisitions.

Craig Kucera
MD - Equity Research at Lucid Capital Markets

Got it. And changing gears, can you give some lease some color on the lease renewal you completed this quarter? Maybe the spread relative to the prior rents and what the term is on this the lease that you did get done this quarter?

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Sure.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Uptick The on it was I believe it's 2.5% and extended term. And as it relates to our renewals that are coming up, we have one left here in 2025 that actually we are working on a lease of a ten plus year lease on it at an uptick within that of approximately 2% I believe it is. And that will take the building out for another ten plus years. And then looking at '26, we have some 10 expirations. And as David referenced, our portfolio management team is actively in front of these expirations, both '26 and '27.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

In '26 of the 10, they've all been contacted. We're confident that at a minimum six out of the 10 are going to renew as they have renewal options. And of the other four, one is going to be signed up. We feel very confident on a lease to buy. We have had tours specific at our GM building down in Austin looking for a 45,000 plus or minus square foot occupant there.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

And looking at 27, we've got 13 of which they've all been contacted and confident honestly that 12 of those are going to renew and they have renewal options. But we are in discussion getting ahead of that curve if you will with all of them.

Craig Kucera
MD - Equity Research at Lucid Capital Markets

Great. I appreciate the color. That's it for me. Thank you.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

Thank you. We've got a third question.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate. Please proceed with your question.

Dave Storms
Director - Equity Research at Stonegate Capital Partners

Good morning and thank you for taking my questions. I just want to start, it looks like cap rates are starting to maybe climb up into the high 8s. Just curious if you could us a sense of what you're seeing in the market, if they could get into the 9s this year, anything like that?

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

I don't see them getting into the 9s. Obviously, the average cap rate basis too many. There is a lot of competition out there David, as I'm sure you're aware. And so as we look at it, we are not purchasing in what I will call in the downtownvery hot industrial pockets of the West Coast and some others. We look to be in the path of growth.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

And so our cap rates, I think, will be 8.5 plus on an average basis.

Dave Storms
Director - Equity Research at Stonegate Capital Partners

That's very helpful. Thank you. And then just given some of the macro uncertainties, are you having to make any changes to your underwriting process to make sure you're still getting the tenant quality that you need? Are you seeing any meaningful impacts from the macro environment on your tenants anything like that?

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

We are not seeing any meaningful impact at this point. Again 100% collections of our rent. We will not change our underwriting criteria and qualifications if you will relevant to the tenancy. We certainly are focused on what impact again the macro may have obviously tariffs and otherwise, but we are not going to change our underwriting criteria.

Dave Storms
Director - Equity Research at Stonegate Capital Partners

That's very helpful. Thank you for taking my questions.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

You bet, David.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

Thank you. We have a fourth question.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Massocca with B. Riley. Please proceed with your question.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

Good morning, everyone.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Good morning.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

Good morning.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

So maybe as we think about the amount outstanding on the revolver, what's kind of potential plans there to either term that out or kind of repay it with some other form of debt or other capital?

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

Well, we have a number of options and one of them in the most immediate will probably be sales on the ATM, paying it down with equity. We are in talks with our lender group to refinance our credit facility. So there's a potential of transferring some of that to a term loan as well. And then obviously, we've done one private placement and if rates cooperate, we could potentially do another.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

Okay.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

Then in terms of you talked a little bit about office on the leasing front, but maybe in terms of the capital recycling front, are you seeing any change in kind of cap rates there just given some of the macro narratives, maybe a little more interest rate uncertainty, return to office, etcetera?

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Relative to cap rates, again, as mentioned previously, our average cap, I think, is moving up a bit. We certainly are not looking to buy any office, I don't think you're implying that. But we have recycled capital out of and then into industrial and we'll continue to deploy capital into the properties we do own provided that that capital is going to be accretive to our shareholders to the company.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

Guess the question is, are you seeing them tighten or maybe even widen as you look to potentially sell office assets to kind of redeploy into industrial?

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Our recent sales show, I wouldn't say tightening, but cap rates that work for us as it relates to the exit of those to be able to recycle into industrial.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

Okay. And then it was kind of the same case in 1Q, but a little bit more elevated kind of variable rental revenue offsetting kind of elevated expenses. Is there something specific kind of driving that?

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

Not really. I mean, it's seasonal. There's nothing

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

Is there anything kind of be one time in that wouldn't flow through to 3Q in either a reimbursement perspective or maybe even a top line rental revenue perspective?

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

I mean the variable rents if you look at they do vary, it's variable. And again a lot of it is due to the expenses that were there So I wouldn't say that you can kind of track those on an apples to apples basis on a going forward basis. And kind of got a little

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

long And kind had a one time in rental revenue, either lease termination fees or

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

That's also that's not going to go into the variable rents now. That's not a recovery.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

No, no, understand. Just in general in the rental revenue in 2Q.

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

Say that again.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

Anything in total rental revenue in 2Q twenty twenty five that was one time.

Gary Gerson
Gary Gerson
CFO & Assistant Treasurer at Gladstone Commercial

There's nothing in there that was elevated or one time, no.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial

Okay. I appreciate that. And that's it for me. Thank you very much.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

Thank you. Operator, do we have a fifth question?

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for closing comments.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

Okay. Thank you very much. Nice list of questions. We hope next quarter we'll get twice that many. This is very good when you guys start following us and asking questions.

David Gladstone
David Gladstone
Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital

That's the end of this. We had a good quarter and we're looking forward to the rest of the year being good. That's the end of this conversation.

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day.

Buzz Cooper
Buzz Cooper
President at Gladstone Commercial

Thank you.

Executives
    • Buzz Cooper
      Buzz Cooper
      President
    • Gary Gerson
      Gary Gerson
      CFO & Assistant Treasurer
Analysts
    • David Gladstone
      Founder, Chairman & CEO at Gladstone Capital
    • Catherine Gerkis
      Director - IR & ESG at The Gladstone Companies
    • Gaurav Mehta
      MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Real Estate and Financials at Alliance Global Partners
    • Craig Kucera
      MD - Equity Research at Lucid Capital Markets
    • Dave Storms
      Director - Equity Research at Stonegate Capital Partners
    • John Massocca
      Senior Research Analyst at B Riley Financial
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