Expedia Group Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Q2 results exceeded expectations with 5% gross bookings growth, 6% revenue growth and nearly two points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion, leading Expedia to raise full-year guidance.
  • Positive Sentiment: B2B bookings grew 17%—marking a sixteenth consecutive quarter of double-digit growth—and advertising revenue jumped 19% with a record number of active partners.
  • Neutral Sentiment: In the consumer segment, Brand Expedia led with its highest multi-item attach rates since the pandemic, Hotels.com saw sequential acceleration after its April relaunch, and Vrbo faced headwinds from lower daily rates, shorter stays and higher cancellations.
  • Positive Sentiment: Expedia advanced its strategic priorities by leveraging AI across products and customer service, forming key supply partnerships (Southwest, Ryanair, Premier Inn) and growing loyalty members in high single digits.
  • Positive Sentiment: Disciplined cost management and AI-driven efficiencies—such as 20% faster engineering cycle times and reduced support costs—underpinned continued margin expansion.
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Earnings Conference Call
Expedia Group Q2 2025
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There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Expedia Group Q2 twenty twenty five Financial Results Teleconference. My name is Alex. I'll be the operator of today's call. For opening remarks, I'll now turn the call over to SVP, Corporate Finance, Dan Simo. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, and welcome to Expedia Group's second quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. I'm pleased to be joined on today's call by our CEO, Ariane Goran and our CFO, Scott Schenkel. As a reminder, our commentary today will include references to certain non GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these non GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release. Unless otherwise stated, all growth rates are on a year over year basis and any reference to expenses excludes stock based compensation.

Speaker 1

We will also be making forward looking statements during the call, which are predictions, projections or other statements about future events. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions, which are subject to risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. Actual results could materially differ due to factors discussed during this call and in our most recent Forms 10 Q, 10 ks and other filings with the SEC. Except as required by law, we do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward looking statements. We are also webcasting an earnings deck while going through prepared remarks.

Speaker 1

A copy of this deck will be posted to our website after the call. Our earnings release, earnings deck, SEC filings and a replay of today's call can be found on our Investor Relations website at ir.expediagroup.com. For today's call, Ariane will begin with a review of our second quarter results and update on our progress against our strategic priorities. Then Scott will provide additional details on our second quarter financial performance and guidance. After our prepared remarks, we will turn the call over to the operator to begin the Q and A portion of the call.

Speaker 1

And with that, let me turn the call over to Ariane.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Dan, and thank you all for joining us today. Our second quarter results exceeded both our top and bottom line expectations. We grew gross bookings by 5%, grew revenue by 6% and expanded adjusted EBITDA margins by nearly two points. We delivered these results in the context of a soft U. S.

Speaker 2

Travel market, reflecting our focused execution and continued progress on our strategic priorities. The U. S. Travel market was muted in the second quarter. Consumers at the higher end of the market remained resilient, with those at the lower end taking a more cautious approach to discretionary spending.

Speaker 2

That said, since the July, we've seen an uptick in overall travel demand, particularly in The U. S. Based on our solid first half performance and these current trends, we're raising our annual guidance, and Scott will cover this in a moment. In the second quarter, our booked room nights grew 7% overall, and we maintained our leadership in The U. S.

Speaker 2

With low single digits growth. We grew room nights mid single digits in EMEA and mid teens in the rest of the world, including nearly 20% in Asia. B2B and advertising continued their strong performance. B2B bookings grew 17, outpacing the market and delivering our sixteenth consecutive quarter of double digit growth. Advertising revenue grew 19% with a record number of active partners and momentum across both sponsored listings and display ads.

Speaker 2

Brand Expedia was once again our largest and fastest growing consumer brand with multi item attach rates at their highest level since the pandemic. Hotels.com bookings declined slightly, but room nights accelerated from the first quarter, helped by our brand relaunch in April. Vrbo grew room nights roughly in line with the market in The U. S, though bookings declined in a softer environment with lower daily rates, shorter length of stay and higher cancellations. Our second quarter performance was underpinned by progress on our three strategic priorities: one, deliver more value for travelers two, invest where we see the greatest opportunity for growth and three, drive operating efficiencies and expand margins.

Speaker 2

AI accelerates all of these priorities, and I'll share how we're leveraging it in each. Let me start with delivering more value to travelers through our supply, loyalty program and products. On supply, our recent partnership with Southwest Airlines has delivered fantastic results, bringing new customers to both Expedia and to Southwest and delivering approximately 5% of Southwest total passenger volume in the second quarter. This contributed to us outpacing total U. S.

Speaker 2

Air ticket sales in the quarter. In EMEA, we've added Premier Inn, a leading European hotel chain, and combined with adding Ryanair earlier this year, strengthened our value proposition to travelers in Europe. In May, we launched new vacation rental promotions capabilities. And in just a few months, nearly 10% of Vrbo bookings are on our new promotional rates. When we bring on more relevant supply, we drive more value for travelers and in turn more growth for our supply partners.

Speaker 2

Our loyalty program showed continued momentum even as we calibrate the program. Active loyalty members grew high single digits with the fastest growth from our Silver members and above. As a reminder, higher tier members received better member rates from our supply partners and earned accelerated rewards, which together create another powerful flywheel for retention and repeat. Turning to our products. We're continually improving the foundations of our user experience, like performance, scalability and configurability, basics that we know drive conversion and repeat.

Speaker 2

At the same time, we're using AI everywhere, leveraging our vast first party data to create better, more personalized experiences. Our AI filters help travelers find what they're looking for faster, resulting in higher conversion rates. And our insurance products now personalize coverage, resulting in our highest insurance attach rates ever. In customer service, AI is contributing to record high Net Promoter Scores while helping us reduce costs. This leads me to our second priority, investing where we see the greatest opportunities for growth.

Speaker 2

B2B is growing fast. We're excited about it, and we're investing behind it. We're onboarding new B2B supply and making it easier for partners to identify and surface the right deals for their travelers. We're also expanding our product portfolio. Last quarter, we launched our first partner on our car API, and later this year, we'll roll out additional lines of business.

Speaker 2

B2B is large outside The U. S, and as we grow, it creates another powerful flywheel for our supply partners as well as benefiting our consumer business. On advertising, we're making it simple and cost effective for advertisers to reach their goals. Our new ad formats like video are driving higher engagement and conversion rates. We're rolling out more automation and about half of our partners now use our automated campaign optimization tools.

Speaker 2

We're a high return channel for our advertisers. And while the space is getting more crowded, by continuing to innovate both on the ads themselves as well as advertiser tools, we believe there's a lot of growth potential ahead. In our Consumer business, we're making progress growing outside The U. S. And capitalizing on new traveler behaviors.

Speaker 2

We grew bookings outside The U. S. By high single digits with brand Expedia growing 13%. The U. K.

Speaker 2

And Northern Europe grew particularly well, in part fueled by the new supply I mentioned earlier. We continue to see opportunity to grow as we bring together marketing, product, supply and servicing in a way that's relevant to travelers in each of our focus markets. We're also capitalizing on new traveler search behaviors, in particular with social, Gen AI searches and AgenTik AI. Traffic from Gen AI searches is small but growing fast, and it's converting into bookings at higher rates than other traffic. We're working with all the large tech players, Google, OpenAI, Meta and Microsoft, to name a few, to make sure that our brands appear prominently and their value propositions are clear.

Speaker 2

It's a fast changing space, and having the right integrations and partnerships enables us to stay ahead, all the while optimizing our own sites, apps, tech and marketing for the future. Moving to the third pillar of our strategy, operating efficiencies and margin expansion. For the past three quarters, we've been flat or leveraged against direct marketing spend in our consumer business. There's still work to do in this area and we're taking a rigorous approach, refining our measurement and leaning in where we see the greatest returns. As our product gets better, as we drive more direct and better retention, we will see improved marketing leverage.

Speaker 2

AI is a key enabler of productivity and effectiveness. It touches every function across our company, and all our employees have AI goals. Our engineering teams, for example, have broadly adopted AI powered developer assistance, and we're seeing reduced cycle times by more than 20% in some teams and faster feature delivery. We expect the impact to compound as we integrate AI deeper into our workflows and that this work alongside our cost discipline will underpin our continued margin expansion. To conclude, even as The U.

Speaker 2

S. Travel market was tough in the first half of the year, we made tangible progress on our strategic priorities. We have much work and opportunity ahead as we continue to execute on our strategy and deliver value for all of our stakeholders. With that, over to you, Scott.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Ariana, good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to share our second quarter performance, which beat the high end of our bookings and revenue guidance by a point and our adjusted EBITDA margin expansion guidance by a point. In summary, for Q2, our booked room nights were up 7%, gross bookings were up 5% and revenue was up 6%. Our B2B and advertising businesses delivered strong double digit growth, up 1719% respectively. On the bottom line, we delivered EBITDA margin expansion of approximately two points.

Speaker 3

Our booked room nights were $105,000,000 up 7%. As Ariane mentioned, the growth was primarily driven by B2B with strong international performance. We saw notable strength in Asia, which grew almost 30% with particular strength in our Rapid API product. As a reminder, Rapid Connects Expedia Group's powerful lodging supply with our travel partners. In B2C, brand Expedia grew booked room nights 5%, also benefiting from the international growth, partially offset by a softer U.

Speaker 3

S. Consumer spending and travel environment. ADRs of $2.00 $9 were essentially flat with prior year. The U. S.

Speaker 3

Travel market experienced continued pressure on inbound travel with shorter booking windows and higher cancellations. Even with that backdrop, we believe our company grew faster than market in both air and hotel lines of business, while vacation rental room nights grew roughly in line with the market. Gross bookings were $30,400,000,000 up 5%, which includes a one point benefit from foreign exchange. Revenue of $3,800,000,000 grew 6%, which was 8% on an FX neutral basis. International revenue growth was up 13%.

Speaker 3

We outperformed our bookings and revenue guidance due to the strength outside The U. S, in particular in B2B. Our international bookings growth also benefited from foreign exchange, while Brand Expedia also saw strength led by growth in air, advertising and attach. Lodging bookings and lodging revenue both grew 6%. Turning to page 10 and our segments performance starting with B2C.

Speaker 3

B2C gross bookings of 21,600,000,000 increased 1% year over year. We delivered high single digit growth outside The U. S, partially offset by softness in The U. S. Market.

Speaker 3

B2C revenue of $2,500,000,000 grew 2%, driven by an increase in hotel demand, particularly from brand Expedia, reflecting growth in advertising and additional stays from past period bookings. B2C EBITDA margins were 29.4%, up nearly three points from last year, driven by volume growth, most notably in our higher margin products like advertising and through disciplined cost management, more specifically in our direct sales and marketing. Moving to B2B. We are excited about the momentum in the business and continued growth prospects as we unlock even more of our supply and launch new APIs for our partners. This business builds upon the same supply and technology for our B2C business, allowing us to expand our reach and power more global travel.

Speaker 3

B2B gross bookings were $8,800,000,000 up 17%. Our B2B segment continues to benefit from increased volume due to solid execution and a higher mix of business outside of The U. S. B2B revenue grew 15% driven by strong growth in Asia and Europe as well as a shift in the timing from Easter. B2B EBITDA margins were 27.3%, up more than two points year over year driven by volume leveraging on the cost of sales and overhead.

Speaker 3

We delivered second quarter adjusted EBITDA of $9.00 $8,000,000 a margin of 24%. The two points of adjusted margin EBITDA margin expansion was driven by revenue growth in both segments, particularly driven by our advertising business and about a quarter point of benefit from a foreign exchange. Adjusted EBITDA adjusted EPS of $4.24 grew grew 21% versus prior year, driven by higher revenues and leverage of costs along with the share repurchase activity. Moving to Page 13. Cost of revenue of $373,000,000 was 9.8% of revenue, representing a zero two five point improvement from the prior year.

Speaker 3

This reflected ongoing efficiencies, particularly in customer service. Direct sales and marketing expenses were $1,900,000,000 up 7% and essentially flat as a percentage of gross bookings. We did see leverage in our B2C business, which was offset by B2B. As a reminder, commissions paid to our partners are included in the direct sales and marketing expenses for B2B. Overhead expenses were $637,000,000 or 16.8% of revenue, a nearly quarter point improvement.

Speaker 3

Keep in mind, the actions we took to reduce our cost structure did not fully impact Q2 and are expected to reduce and are expected to further benefit our expense base in the second half of the year. The strength in our balance sheet continued with $9,200,000,000 in total liquidity at quarter end. This includes $6,700,000,000 of unrestricted cash and short term investments and $2,500,000,000 from our undrawn revolving credit facility. Our leverage ratio of two times is in line with our target and we remain committed to maintaining debt levels consistent with our investment grade rating. Free cash flow on a trailing twelve month basis was $2,000,000,000 and reflects the strength of our asset light and operating model and disciplined execution of our strategic priorities.

Speaker 3

At quarter end, had $2,300,000,000 remaining in our share repurchase program after utilizing $627,000,000 in the quarter to repurchase 3,800,000.0 shares of our common stock. This brings our total shares repurchased in the last three years to $42,000,000 and reduces our share count by 21%. Turning to the outlook for the third quarter. We expect gross bookings growth of 5% to 7% and revenue growth of 4% to 6%. This includes an estimated one point benefit from foreign exchange to bookings and revenue growth at current exchange rates.

Speaker 3

Adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to expand by 50 to 100 basis points with no material impact from currency at current exchange rates. For the full year, we expect gross bookings and revenue growth of 3% to 5%, which represents a one point increase versus our previous guidance. For bookings, this includes roughly zero five point of benefit from foreign exchange and for revenue, it includes approximately a one point headwind at current rates. For the year, we expect adjusted EBITDA margin expansion of a full point. This is at the high end of our previous guidance of 75 to 100 basis points provided in May.

Speaker 3

We are off to a good start in the first half of the year with adjusted EBITDA margin up over 1.5 points. In the second half, we will benefit from the cost actions we announced with our first quarter results. In addition, we expect to deliver additional EBITDA margin expansion from our B2C marketing leverage. We are focused on optimizing our current spend across the enterprise while continuing to invest in our growth drivers. Regarding capital allocation for the balance of 2025, we expect to continue repurchasing shares roughly in line with levels over the last couple of years.

Speaker 3

Finally, our '25 guidance implies a moderation in Q4 growth as compared to Q3, which is driven by two factors. First, we're lapping last year's significant strength where bookings and revenue growth were up 1310% respectively. Secondly, the continuing uncertainty around The U. S. Consumer and travel into The U.

Speaker 3

S. I'm encouraged by the momentum we're seeing across our strategic priorities and I want to echo Ariane's enthusiasm around the progress we've made year to date, especially during a challenging U. S. Consumer spending environment. Now let me open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Our first question for today comes from Eric Sheridan of Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thanks so much for taking the question and thanks for all the detail in the prepared remarks. I think honing in on some of the bigger themes in what you said, would you guys think broadly in where this company is going over the next couple of years? How do you think about aligning some of your key strategic priorities and growth investments against traffic dynamics, conversion and thinking about scaling various forms of inventory and go to market strategy over the medium to long term? Thanks so much.

Speaker 2

First, I would start by saying we're happy with the portfolio mix we have between our consumer brands, our B2B brands. And we think that while of course our consumer business is quite, I would say, concentrated in The US, if you look at the company as a whole, we're we're quite diversified when you look at the b two b business. You as you say, we'll see how AI evolves. But, again, I think we're well positioned in our consumer business to integrate AI into our products, into our apps. As traffic shifts, as consumer behavior shifts, you know, we are working with all of the different partners who have, for example, AI traffic, whether it's OpenAI, Microsoft, and the like.

Speaker 2

And so I think we're well positioned to make sure we're capturing that traffic. Of course, with our work on supply, with our work on our product, with our work on our loyalty program, you know, our goal would be to have as much direct traffic as possible into our brands. But, again, we're working with all of these partners to get traffic from outside as well. And then b to b is a highly diversified business, not only geographically, but also in terms of the type of partners we work with. We know that it's a big travel industry.

Speaker 2

Some people buy traffic sorry, buy buy travel through their corporate programs, some from offline retails, some from their loyalty programs, and we're really there to power it all. So if I just step back and think about our three big strategic priorities, which are deliver more value for travelers and partners through our product supply and loyalty program, And that's where we see growth, which is in B2B and advertising and then in consumer, there's a big opportunity still internationally and with these new traffic trends and then expand margins. I think we feel good about where we are.

Speaker 3

Yeah. I'd add to that, Eric, a couple of things. First off, maybe to double click on the direct traffic point that Ariane brought up. We continue to see strength in the traffic we get from direct, and we are very closely working with AI providers as well as monitoring our own traffic and conversion to make sure that we are seeing the uplift we think we should and holding our strength in direct which we feel good about. The second is for app traffic.

Speaker 3

Our app traffic continues to grow and conversion continues to get better. So as we think about the mix of where our traffic is coming from, we feel very strongly about those two. The other traffic channels broadly speaking, we're seeing more strength in social, which we feel good about and continue to invest behind. And as we make trade offs between the other channels to balance our returns and our growth that's where I think you'll see particularly out of B and B some productivity going forward.

Operator

Our next question comes from Anthony Post of Bank of America.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you. I think I'll ask you again about hotels.com. You've mentioned some improvement. Maybe give us some things that are working there and how your outlook is for that brand for the next twelve months.

Speaker 4

And then Scott, maybe you could talk about how you thought about Q4 comps in your full year guidance? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. I'll take the hotels.com question. And I'd start by saying, look, I talked about it a year ago, hotels.com was our most disrupted of all of our brands from the platform migrations and the change in the loyalty program and the fact that we pulled back on international for a period of time while we were going through big replatforming. And as I said, I feel good about where we are right now. I'll start with the brand relaunch in April.

Speaker 2

We're seeing brand awareness and direct traffic move in the right direction from that, and so that gives us a lot of confidence. Next, in the product, you know, we introduced new capabilities like price alerts and insights that really reinforce the value proposition of this brand as a hotel specialist. So there are things that are specific to hotels.com, and it also benefits from some of our underlying platform improvements, for example, like our checkout path. And finally, as we've been leaning back into international markets with the hotels.com loyalty program of 10 for one, we're seeing some really nice results. And hotels.com is actually a brand that's quite exposed to international markets.

Speaker 2

So I'd just say, look, it's been a road to get here, and we have a full roadmap of for the second half and we feel good about the progress that we've made.

Speaker 3

Yes. Specific to your second question, as I said in my prepared remarks, there's a fair amount of market uncertainty combined with tougher lapping. We're up six to seven points in Q3 to Q4 of last year and that dynamic is going to make we think the comps a little tougher in Q4. But effectively we're not updating Q4. So when you guys do the force out for Q4 it's going to show roughly flat for GMV and revenue.

Speaker 3

And I think we feel strongly that we'll be on the upside of the higher end of that range and that we'll get to Q4 when we get to it.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you. Thank

Operator

you. Our next question comes from Lee Horowitz of Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thanks so much. I think I heard you talk to marketing leverage in your B2C business in the second half of the year. I guess what has evolved in your business over the last year or so to sort of reach that elusive goal? It's been something we've been talking about for a while. Just curious what you're seeing to have confidence in that outlook and how you think about that perhaps going forward into 2026.

Speaker 2

So I'll start and then Scott if you'd like to add. First of all, marketing leverage comes from obviously, the product itself getting better. So are we able to as we bring traffic in, one, is it coming more direct? Two, when we bring it in, is the paid traffic, are we getting it in an efficient level? And then are we converting that traffic that comes in into bookings and then people repeating and coming back direct?

Speaker 2

All of the work that we are doing around traveler value, when I talk about the work in the product, the work in the supply, and the loyalty program is, you know, with the goal of getting more repeat, more direct, and more loyalty, which automatically will improve our marketing leverage. In addition, I've talked about the work we're doing in sharpening the value proposition for each of the brands. Because the sharper it is, the more people understand that Expedia is a one stop shop where they can come in and drink great package deals and bundle and save, the more effective our marketing will be. And then, of course, it's just the simple work in marketing of making sure that, we have the right integrations with the right partners, that we've got the right measurement. And I feel great about the progress that our team is making around that.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Naved Khan of B. Riley Securities. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi. Thank you very much. Maybe just question on the promotional environment given the sort of sluggish U. S. Are you kind of leaning more on promotions to drive bookings and conversions versus prior periods?

Speaker 7

Just any thoughts on that and how does

Speaker 6

that affect maybe less marketing, maybe more promotions? That's one. And the second question I have is just on the all in pricing that you are doing now on the across your platform. What kind of impact are you seeing from that on conversion rates? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Okay. On the promotions, sort of split the answer in two. The first part is supplier driven promotions. And in the second quarter, we saw more of our bookings come on promotional rates that were provided by supply partners. And I think that's both a reflection of supply partners participating more in the promotions and The U.

Speaker 2

S. Consumer being more price sensitive. And we partner with our supply partners to help them get more reach. So that's what we're seeing on promotions. And then regarding our own promotional activity, whether it's around packaging and the like, you know, we look at it in a very, I would say, methodical way, both marketing, loyalty, and promotions and pricing together.

Speaker 2

And wherever we see the best returns, we'll sort of optimize around that. So that's the answer on the promotions question. In terms of all in pricing, you know, anytime you change the the UX of of an e commerce app or site, there's obviously some adjustments. But, you know, there's there there was not any more impact than what we had expected, and, you know, we think it's it's a good thing for the traveler.

Speaker 3

And then I'd also call out that I think we talked about this before, but just for clarity. The loyalty and pricing goes into contract, but it doesn't show up in marketing, just so we're clear on that.

Speaker 6

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jed Kelly of Oppenheimer. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hey, great. Thanks for taking my question. Just in AI and how it benefits B2B and how you're using your agent, is that something you can use with your agent to generate new business by potentially letting them use AI agents to get more inventory? And then just on Vrbo, I see that bookings were down year over year. You called out slower ADRs.

Speaker 8

Can you just talk about the mix shift? And are you still seeing the mix shift to the higher value homes? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Okay. Let me start with Vrbo and then I'll get to B2B an agent. Look, what I would say on Vrbo is we are still filling some of the foundational gaps that we had in particular around supply that during the period that we were going through those big migrations, we hadn't been able to get to. An important part of those gaps in supply came from promotions like I described.

Speaker 2

We actually just unlocked the last minute deals, which we didn't have before. And as we look to get more trip types to be able to serve more than, you know, the one once a year large vacation, we need to unlock the supply and product to do that. So last minute was a big part of that for weekend trips. You know, six months ago, I talked about the multiunit vacation inventory in urban. So we are on the path to be able to cater to more trip types, whether it's, as I said, short booking window, longer booking windows, whole homes, or apartments.

Speaker 2

I'd also just call out on Vrbo. Last quarter, we launched categorical recommendations on the app on the app home screen, which helps people more easily find their match. So there are some good things happening there in Vrbo. In terms of your b to b agent question, yeah, I would say it's early days between us and supply partners in figuring out, you know, how will agents help, whether it's onboarding inventory, whether it's helping with, you know, customer support issues. But, you know, the travel industry, despite all of the technology we have in it, there are still for servicing needs for the supply partners and a distributor like us to have to do a lot of back and forth with the customers.

Speaker 2

So I think it's exciting to see what AgenTeq will allow in that area.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Connor Cunningham of Melius Research. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Hi, everyone. Thank you. You had a pretty big acceleration in the point of sale outside The U. S. And I'm just trying to understand the opportunity set there, maybe a little bit longer term.

Speaker 3

Realize that you're going to start investing a lot more internationally. But historically, I think the split has been like 55 to 45, I realize the business has changed a lot. But is that a potential goal that we could get back to at some point? And then I could just ask another one within that, is the booking curve now starting to elongate a little bit with all the uncertainty kind of passing out in the market in general?

Speaker 2

Thank

Speaker 3

you. Yes. I'd say that the booking windows, particularly for q two, started to shorten. And then we've seen kind of a pivot a little bit as we've seen rebookings happen from the cancellations that happened in q two as we entered q three. But we're not gonna get into q three two in too much detail here today.

Speaker 3

But that's the dynamic I'd call out there. I don't know if you had anything to add on that.

Speaker 2

No. And on the international question or the growth outside of The U. S, I'm going to answer it with regard to the consumer business because the B2B business is already you know, majority outside of The US. Compared to the past, we're taking a very focused approach. So each brand has a set of focused markets where they are working to make sure that they have great brand awareness, product, marketing, supply, servicing, and the like.

Speaker 2

And rather than looking at, okay, what is do we spread ourselves then? We're really looking in a focused way, and I do believe we can drive outsized growth in those focused markets. For example, in Japan and Brazil, we were growing over 20%. In Northern Europe, we're growing in strong double digits. So it's really a focused approach, understanding what the travelers in those countries are looking for and then executing against it.

Speaker 3

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Kevin Kopelman of TD Securities. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 8

Could you touch on the key growth drivers in B2B

Speaker 4

and the latest trends you're seeing there? And also, you could help us just strip out the FX impact from Q1 to Q2. And then secondly, on B2B, could you touch on the rev share rate and trends there and what we should expect going forward? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yeah. On FX for Q2, let me just go back to our original guide was two to four on GBV. We've reported five, and FX neutral was four. So that was roughly about a point quarter to quarter. So point or two quarter to quarter, but that's that's kind of the ranges that we're talking about.

Speaker 2

And then I'll say the drivers of growth, Scott talked about the fact that in Asia, we're growing 30%. And this is a business, one, as I said, that's geographically diverse, but in particular, it's quite exposed to Asia, which is a fast growing market. Two, from a segment perspective, powers offline retailers, corporate travel, and the like. And we believe that in most of our partners, we're actually winning share with them. So their businesses are growing.

Speaker 2

And then as we create more value for them, we're able to capture more of their travel spend. And as we look forward on rev share rate, I mean, certainly, to the extent that there are more entrants in the space, that can put some pressure on revenue rate. But this is why we're constantly looking to iterate our product to bring more value and more stickiness to our partners. I talked about the work we were doing in merchandising to make it easier for our partners to understand when there are good deals and good rates. And we're constantly working with them to optimize the tech integrations that we have with them so that all of the conversations are not just about what's the revenue share.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Doug Anmuth of JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, this is Tayo on for Doug. Thanks for taking the questions. I have two. First one, on Brand Expedia, could you just unpack that a little bit more and talk about how that's performing within the broader, B2C segment? And, it's growing faster than the overall.

Speaker 7

Like, is it fair for us to think that, right, Expedia is taking share from other players in the space? And then secondly, on the guide, I think in your full year guide, when you exclude the impact of FX, you have a bigger raise for the revenue than for gross bookings. I'm just wanting to understand some of the drivers behind that. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure. Let me start with, Brand Expedia. So, we believe Brand Expedia is taking share in a number of markets that it's in. It's got a great value proposition. As I said earlier, it's a one stop shop bundle and save.

Speaker 2

Know, to be able to do packages where you have your selection of flights with hotels and to do it dynamically is very powerful, and we believe we have the leading solution there. As a result, we have record attach rates and great growth in packages. You know, we're we're bringing on new supply. I talked about Southwest and Ryanair, but there are a lot of airlines that as we work for better connectivity with NDC with them, we're able to unlock additional rates that travelers want. So we're excited about it.

Speaker 2

It's taking share. And at the same time, there are underpenetrated opportunities with this brand. We aren't as big in vacation rentals as we would like to be. We're not as big in activities. These are areas that, you know, despite the fact that we're growing well, we see as our future growth drivers in addition to international.

Speaker 3

Yes. Specific for total year foreign exchange, there's not a material difference between the deltas on our ranges for foreign exchange and revenue versus GBV. But we can tie that out offline if you'd like.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Deepak Mathivanan of Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Ariane, on the AI assistant, you noted that the traffic is converting at a higher rate. Can you expand on what the drivers of higher conversion is? Is it because the traffic is having a higher intent than other channels?

Speaker 5

Or is it because they are going further deeper into the booking path? Any kind of hypothesis you have there would be great. And then, one for Scott. Scott, you yeah. Sorry.

Speaker 5

Go ahead.

Speaker 2

No. No. Go ahead. Sorry.

Speaker 5

No. I was just gonna ask a quick one for Scott. Scott, can you talk about the b to b business in Asia, specifically in the context of Rapid API product? How should we think about the opportunity to grow this further maybe in the next few years? What specifically is the value prop that consumers are finding with this product and where the penetration is in terms of that?

Speaker 5

Any color would be great.

Speaker 3

Thanks.

Speaker 2

So let me start with AI. As I said, the the traffic that we're getting from these Gen AI search engines is small, but it's converting well. And, it's exactly my hypothesis is exactly what you're saying, which is it's traffic that is sort of further down the discovery funnel. And so when it comes to our brands, it's more qualified. Now we're doing a lot of work with these, AI companies, whether it's OpenAI, Google, or the like.

Speaker 2

One, to make sure that, you know, when travelers are in their worlds, that our brands are showing up well. There's tech work. There's marketing work. There's integration work that that needs to happen to make that happen. Also, to make sure that then when a traveler comes to us, we're able to have the context that that traveler had so that we can give them more personalized experience when they come to us.

Speaker 2

But I would just say it is early days, whether it's the agentic search sorry. Whether it's the AI search, whether it's the a the agents themselves coming and taking actions on our sites, in our apps. We are working closely with all these partners. We're experimenting. We're testing, and it's an exciting area.

Speaker 2

I believe in all of it, what remains important is that our brands have strong supply, a great loyalty program, that we have a great simple user experience with really good servicing so that whether travelers start with us or start in these AI experiences and then come to us, that they are loyal with our brands.

Speaker 3

Great. I think that's a great summary. And I think with regard to B2B, I think the way we think about it is with a significant amount of their GBV and revenue coming from international, Asia included, obviously. We feel very good about the mix of those markets and the growth dynamics that come with them. As it relates to API, it's just a way for us to bring our total supply and our technology to customers in those regions.

Speaker 3

And so we feel very strongly. We've had great history of continuing strong double digit growth. And I think as we look forward, we expect to continue that.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Mark Mahaney of Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Okay. Actually, I'd just like to ask two really high level questions, and I'm sorry I missed some of the details from earlier in the call. So, Ariane, I would ask the question to you this way. You've been CEO now for a little I know you've been with the company for a long time, but you've been CEO for a little over twelve, fourteen, fifteen months, something like that. When you think about the sort of the areas that needed fixing, what I really want to ask you is, which areas do you think that you've been able to that have been most improved over the last year?

Speaker 9

And where do you feel like the real laggards still are that there's real places to lean into that could use the most improvement? And Scott, I know you've been there for six months, a little over that I think. And you come into this cost structure and you think about the learnings that you've had so far. Where are you in terms of thinking through strategizing through real cost opportunities to take these margins maybe materially higher to where or somewhat higher to where the the other players are in the space? Sorry for the high level questions, but I think they're kind of important.

Speaker 9

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, Mark. So so I would say, I it was important to maintain and, in fact, accelerate the momentum where we were doing well in b to b and in advertising and also in Brand Expedia. So, you know, a year ago when I took this role, you know, I was really clear that we've done a bunch of platform work, but it wasn't necessarily translating into growth in our consumer business and integrate traveler experiences the way we wanted it. So I you know, we're on the journey.

Speaker 2

We're on the path, especially with Vrbo and hotels.com of being really clear on what are their value propositions, how are they positioned in market, how are we filling any key gaps that they have, and then executing against those. Yep. And some of it is taking the platform capabilities we built and finishing some of them off. And I talked to the team a lot about being brilliant at the basics. You know, I say, look.

Speaker 2

Our business is about how are we getting traffic in, converting it, getting it to repeat, you know, how are we driving retention. It's it's it's not always the sexy stuff, but making sure that our sites are fast, that, you know, we have great configurable technology. So I I would say we've made a lot of progress on that. It's not yet showing as much as I would like it to in the numbers in consumer, but, you know, we're sort of where we'd like on the journey. In terms of sort of I think you said where are the areas we'd lean into.

Speaker 2

Again, I'm waiting to see the results come through in the consumer business. And then there's something about in our culture being fast, moving faster. And, again, when you go through big migrations and platform migrations, I think sometimes that can slow us down. And what's the probably the most exciting thing to me right now is how we're using AI internally in order to get more effective and to move faster. So that's sort of probably the area I would say lean into and opportunity.

Speaker 3

Yeah. Mark, I would, specific to the question around cost and possibly then margins. When we look at the margins and I start with and maybe you missed it earlier, but the dynamics around the first half, I think are indicative as we talk about first half, second half. The team took I think quick action in early Q2 around restructuring some of our cost base. And I think between that and we look and some of the work that we're doing on marketing without really having a full half year or even quarter of cost restructuring benefit and without making that many changes to marketing which we're planning, our margin rate is up 150 basis points over the course of Q2 and for the first half.

Speaker 3

So as we look at the first half, good strength with opportunities to continue to take cost out and rebalance our cost portfolio, while thinking about how we invest for growth longer term. So as we look at the second half and I kind of talked a little bit about this earlier, but how do we think about balancing the marketing investments, redeploying between channels, between brands and different spend types to maximize growth as well as take costs out of the business responsibly while investing back into the business and delivering good solid margin expansion for this company. That's how I kind of put it in context as we look forward.

Speaker 9

Okay. Thanks, Scott. Thanks, Ariane.

Speaker 2

Thank

Operator

you. Our final question for today comes from Tom Champion of Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hi, good afternoon. Erinn, it sounded like your comments around the loyalty program were positive and maybe there was an inflection there. Just curious if you could elaborate on that and discuss what underpins that. And then Scott for you, just as you think about sales and marketing discipline in the second half, what does that entail? I'm just curious if you can elaborate on that and what do you do more of and what less of?

Speaker 10

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure. So on One Key, as I said in my prepared remarks, we grew our members high single digits. The silver members and above are growing faster than base and nonmembers. And importantly, we haven't seen any negative impact as we pulled back the Vrbo earn for Blue members. So, you know, look, it's working.

Speaker 2

It's you know, we're growing nicely. We have more growth in the the the top members. That being said, you know, about a year ago, we stopped the rollout of One Key beyond The US and The UK because it had had such an impact on hotels.com. And while it was driving some cross sell across the brands, know, one of the things I did when I came in is I wanted to make sure that it was also a program that was working for each of the brands individually. So how do we take the tech platform and the common currency that worked across the board, but then tailor them to each of the brands.

Speaker 2

Then that's what you will see us do in the quarters to come.

Speaker 3

Yeah. Specific to to marketing cost, Tom, I would call out, first off, just in the end it's going to be how do we get productivity out of the sales the direct sales and marketing line in B2C. As we look at country deployment of cost, brand deployment of cost, channel deployment of cost. I think you can expect us to see you can expect to see some changes to each of those and redeployments to drive to balance growth and drive productivity.

Speaker 10

Thank you both.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. I'll now turn the call over to CEO, Arianne Gorin for any further remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you all for joining the call today and thank you for your questions. We delivered solid results ahead of our guidance. Despite softer travel demand in The U. S, the recent trends we're seeing reinforce our fundamental conviction that people want to travel and will continue to prioritize it. I want to thank our team for their work on behalf of our travelers and our partners.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. That concludes today's call. You may now disconnect your lines.

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