Puma Biotechnology Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Strong Q2 performance with $49.2 million in NERLYNX net product revenue (up from $43.1 million) and GAAP net income of $5.9 million ($0.12/share), while full-year revenue guidance was raised to $192 million–$198 million.
  • Negative Sentiment: New patient enrollments declined ~9% quarter-over-quarter and new prescriptions fell ~3%, signaling challenges in sustaining patient starts.
  • Positive Sentiment: Phase II trials of alisertib in HER2-negative breast and small cell lung cancer are enrolling ahead of expectations, with interim data anticipated later in 2025.
  • Negative Sentiment: Gross-to-net adjustments are projected to increase to ~21.5–22%, and 2025 royalties are guided lower at $20 million–$24 million due to regulatory transitions affecting China shipments.
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Earnings Conference Call
Puma Biotechnology Q2 2025
00:00 / 00:00

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Latanya, and I will be your conference call operator today. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host today, Mary Anne Ohanaisen, Senior Director of IR for Puma Biotechnology. You may begin your conference.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Latanya. Good afternoon and welcome to Puma's conference call to discuss our earnings results for the 2025. Joining me on the call today are Ellen Auerbach, Chief Executive Officer, President and Chairman of the Board of Puma Biotechnology Maximo Noguez, Chief Financial Officer Heather Blaber, Senior Vice President of Marketing and Roger Storms, Senior Vice President of Sales. After the close today, Puma issued a news release detailing earnings results for second quarter twenty twenty five. That news release, the slides that Roger will refer to and a webcast of this call are accessible via the homepage and Investors sections of our website at pumabiotechnology.com.

Speaker 1

The webcast and presentation slides will be archived on our website and available for replay for the next ninety days. Today's conference call will include statements about Puma's future expectations, plans and prospects that constitute forward looking statements for purposes of federal securities laws. Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and actual events and results may differ from those expressed in these forward looking statements. For a full discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please review our periodic and current reports filed with the SEC from time to time, including our annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended 12/31/2024. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, which speak only as of the date of this live conference call, 08/07/2025.

Speaker 1

Puma undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this conference call, except as required by law. During today's call, we may refer to certain non GAAP financial measures that involve adjustments to our GAAP figures. We believe these non GAAP metrics may be useful to investors as a supplement to, but not a substitute for, our GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our second quarter twenty twenty five earnings release for a reconciliation of our GAAP to non GAAP results. I will now turn the call over to Alan.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Mary Anne, and thank you all for joining our call today. Today Puma reported total revenue for the 2025 of $52,300,000 Total revenue includes product revenue net, which consists entirely of NERLYNX sales as well as royalties from our sub licensees. Product revenue net was $49,200,000 in the 2025, an increase from $43,100,000 reported in Q1 twenty twenty five and an increase from $44,400,000 reported in Q2 twenty twenty four. Product revenue for the 2025 was impacted by approximately $1,300,000 of inventory decrease at our specialty pharmacies and specialty distributors. Royalty revenue was $3,200,000 in the 2025 compared to $2,900,000 in Q1 twenty twenty five and $2,700,000 in Q2 twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2

We reported 2,608 bottles of NERLYNX sold in the 2025, an increase of two seventy from the 2,338 bottles sold in Q1 twenty twenty five. In Q2 twenty twenty five, we estimate that inventory decreased by 72 bottles. In Q2 twenty twenty five new prescriptions were down approximately 3% compared to Q1 twenty twenty five and total prescriptions were up approximately 3% compared to Q1 twenty twenty five. Roger will provide further details in his comments and slides. I will now provide a clinical review of the quarter, then Heather Blaber and Roger Storms will add additional color on NERLYNX commercial activities.

Speaker 2

Maximo Nougues will follow with highlights of the key components of our financial statements for the 2025. As investors are aware, Puma currently has two ongoing Phase two trials of our investigational drug, alasertib. One is the ELYSCA breast trial, which is a Phase two trial of alasertib in combination with endocrine treatment in patients with HER2 negative hormone receptor positive metastatic breast cancer. And the second is the ELISCA LUNG-one trial, which is a Phase II study looking at the efficacy of alicertib monotherapy in patients with small cell lung cancer. As a reminder, the ELYSCA Breast one investigates Alicertib in combination with endocrine treatment, which consists of either anastrozole, exemestane, letrozole, fulvestrant or tamoxifen in patients with HER2 negative hormone receptor positive metastatic breast cancer.

Speaker 2

Patients must be chemotherapy naive, must have previously received treatment with a CDK4six inhibitor and received at least two prior lines of endocrine therapy in the recurrent or metastatic setting to be eligible for the trial. Patients are being dosed with elacertib either at thirty milligrams, forty milligrams or fifty milligrams twice daily BID on days one to three, eight to ten and fifteen to 17 on a twenty eight day cycle in combination with endocrine therapy of the investigator's choice. Patients must have not been previously treated with the endocrine therapy in the metastatic setting that is being given in combination with alasertib in the trial. Primary efficacy endpoints include objective response rate, duration of response, disease control rate and progressions free survival. As a secondary objective, the company will be evaluating each of these efficacy biomarkers within biomarker subgroups in order to determine whether any biomarker subgroup correlates with better efficacy as has been seen in preclinical and clinical studies in other cancers, including breast and small cell lung cancer.

Speaker 2

The company will then look to focus the future clinical development of alasertib in combination with endocrine therapy for patients with HER2 negative hormone receptor positive breast cancer within these biomarkers. The trial was initiated in late November twenty twenty four. There are currently 33 sites in The U. S. And 18 sites in Europe that have been activated for the trial and the trial is enrolling ahead of expectations.

Speaker 2

There are currently sixty two patients enrolled in the trial and 10 additional patients in screening. We are looking to have interim data from this trial later in 2025. With respect to the ELYSCA LUNG-one study, as investors are aware Puma has an ongoing Phase two trial of our investigational drug allosertib to investigate the efficacy of allosertib monotherapy in patients with small cell lung cancer and specifically look at the efficacy of the drug in patients with biomarkers where the aurora kinase pathway plays a role. The goal is to correlate the efficacy in these biomarker subgroups in the ELISCO-one study to the efficacy that was previously seen in the biomarker subgroups from the randomized trial of paclitaxel plus alacertib versus paclitaxel plus placebo that was published in the Journal of Thoracic Oncology in 2020. In that randomized trial, a progression free survival and overall survival benefit were seen in patients with biomarkers that correlate with the aurora kinase pathway.

Speaker 2

If the efficacy and biomarker data are comparable from the two studies, the company would look to engage with the FDA to discuss the regulatory path further. As discussed on the recent earnings call, the company believes that the data obtained to date from the ELYSCA-one 101 study is providing a preliminary indication of potentially better activity in patients with biomarkers where the aurora kinase pathway plays a role. The most recent analysis of the pharmacokinetic data from ELISCA-one study suggests that we are seeing a lower PK of alisertib in the ELISCA-one trial compared with the previous Phase two study of alisertib monotherapy in small cell lung cancer patients that was published in Lancet Oncology. The company has amended the protocol for the trial to increase the dose of alacertib from fifty milligram BID to sixty milligram BID, which the company believes will increase the PK of the drug to levels closer to that what we seen in the prior Phase two trial. The company is currently enrolling patients at the sixty milligram BID dose.

Speaker 2

There are currently 52 patients enrolled in the trial with additional three patients in screening. The company looks to have additional interim data from the trial later in 2025. As mentioned on prior earnings calls and in response to investor questions, Puma continues to evaluate several drugs to potentially in license or acquire that allow the company to diversify itself and leverage Puma's existing R and D, regulatory and commercial infrastructure. The company will keep investors updated on this as it progresses. I will now turn the call over to Heather Blaber for an update on our marketing initiatives and Roger Storms will follow with a review of our commercial performance during the quarter.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Alan. I appreciate the opportunity to share some additional insights into our marketing strategy. The marketing team is focused on creating awareness of both clinical messaging for NERLYNX as well as recently published data that demonstrate the continued need to reduce the risk of recurrence in HER2 positive early breast cancer after completion of adjuvant therapy. We continue to invest in market research to help us better understand risk factors that put a patient at high risk of recurrence in HER2 positive early stage breast cancer, as well as garner insights on the clinical data in this patient population. Together with our marketing initiatives, our strategy is focused on increasing awareness of our broad indication of patients that are appropriate for treatment with Neuralinks.

Speaker 3

Based on our insights, we have adjusted our strategy on key learnings and revised both personal and non personal messaging with the goal of engaging physicians on a broader set of patients where the risk of recurrence remains high and where we believe NERLYNX can play an important role in helping to reduce the risk of recurrence in patients with early stage HER2 positive breast cancer. In addition to revising our messaging, we recently rolled out a new resource to support patients throughout their recommended course of NERLYNX therapy. This educational resource will be provided to patients on a monthly basis as they receive their refills. Lastly, year to date, we have reached ninety nine point seven percent of oncologists through non personal promotion and continue to expand our share of voice working closely with the sales team to increase engagement with healthcare providers. In summary, we are excited about our new marketing strategy and messaging, which we believe will continue to help educate and engage oncologists on the unmet need for those diagnosed with HER2 positive early stage breast cancer.

Speaker 3

I will now turn the call over to Roger Storms to provide an overview on the commercial performance for the second quarter.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Heather, and thanks to everyone for joining our second quarter earnings call. But before I move into the commercial review, just a reminder that I'll be making forward looking statements. The sales team continues to work hard on expanding overall HCP reach and frequency with an emphasis on increasing engagement when treatment decisions are being made. Q2 twenty twenty five call activity was up 16% year over year and up 24% quarter over quarter. This is a direct result of being able to fill key vacancies that existed in Q1 as well as continued emphasis put on executional excellence and increased accountability in Q2 with the existing sales team.

Speaker 4

The commercial team remains focused on expanding the utilization of NERLYNX with the primary emphasis on patients who are at increased risk of recurrence. The team has continued their emphasis on improving clinical education and engagement through non personal promotion as well as using the patient resource brochure designed to improve persistence and compliance throughout their NERLYNX therapy. Let me now transition to some of the commercial slides where I'll provide some additional specifics around performance. Slide three is an illustration of our distribution model, which is broken out into the specialty pharmacy channel and the specialty distributor or in office dispensing channel. In regards to the overall distribution of our business, in Q2 twenty twenty five, about 63% of our business was purchased through the SP channel and the remaining 37% was purchased through the SD channel.

Speaker 4

We are seeing some stronger growth in the SD channel driven by two main factors: one, increased 340B purchasing and two, increased sales in the Group Purchasing Organization or GPO segment. Turning to Slide four. NERLYNX net product revenue in Q2 twenty twenty five was $49,200,000 which represents an increase of $6,100,000 from the $43,100,000 we reported in 2025 and an increase of $4,800,000 from the $44,400,000 we reported in 2024. I will provide some more details around inventory changes and Maximo will provide some additional specifics around gross to net expenses during his update. In Q2 twenty twenty five, we estimate that inventory decreased by about $1,300,000 As a comparator, we estimate that inventory increased by about $4,700,000 in 2025 and decreased by about $2,300,000 in 2024.

Speaker 4

Slide five shows Q2 twenty twenty five ex factory bottle sales and also provides both a year over year and a quarter over quarter comparison. In Q2 twenty twenty five, NERLYNX ex factory bottle sales were 2,608, which represents an approximate 12% increase quarter over quarter and a 4% increase year over year. Similar to the prior slide, let me specifically call out the inventory changes from a bottle perspective. In Q2 twenty twenty five, we estimate that inventory decreased by 72 bottles. As a comparator, we estimate that inventory decreased by two fifty bottles in 2025 and decreased by 132 bottles in 2024.

Speaker 4

Let me take a moment to provide some additional metrics regarding our second quarter performance. In Q2, we saw enrollments decrease about 9% quarter over quarter and decline about 11% year over year. New patient starts or NRx followed a similar pattern, declining approximately 3% quarter over quarter and also declining 1% year over year. Turning to total prescriptions or TRx, we saw TRx increase 3% quarter over quarter and decline about 2% year over year. Finally, let me share some specifics around demand.

Speaker 4

In Q2, we saw demand increase about 4% quarter over quarter and increase about 2% year over year. As mentioned earlier, we've seen a stronger demand growth in the SD channel where we saw demand grow about 8% quarter over quarter and about 17% year over year. Slide six highlights the quarterly adoption of dose escalation since NERLYNX launch. In Q2, approximately seventy one percent of patients started NERLYNX at a reduced dose. This is similar to the seventy two percent we reported in 2025.

Speaker 4

Continued messaging and adoption of dose escalation remains an important commercial priority. Patients who are started on NERLYNX utilizing dose escalation have better persistence and compliance. We believe dose escalation coupled with the new patient education resources will give patients better support throughout their NERLYNX therapy and ultimately help them reduce the risk of recurrence. Slide seven highlights the strategic collaborations we have formed across the globe. We really appreciate the excellent work being done by our partners around the globe and look forward to supporting their continued success moving forward.

Speaker 4

Let me wrap up by thanking the entire Puma team for their continued passion and commitment for helping patients and their families battling breast cancer. This disease can have devastating effects and we know more can be done and more needs to be done. I will now turn the call over to Maximo for a review of our financial results.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Roger. I will begin with a brief summary of our financial results for the 2025. Please note that I will make comparisons to Q1 twenty twenty five, which we believe is a better indication of our progress as a commercial company and year over year comparisons. For more information, I recommend that you refer to our second quarter twenty twenty five ten Q, which will be filed today and includes our consolidated financial statements. For the 2025, we reported net income based on GAAP of 5,900,000 or $0.12 per share.

Speaker 5

This compares to net income in Q1 twenty twenty five of $3,000,000 or $06 per share. On a non GAAP basis, which is adjusted to remove the impact of stock based compensation expense, we reported net income of $7,500,000 or $0.15 per basic and diluted share for the 2025. Gross revenue from NetLink sales was $62,100,000 in Q2 twenty twenty five and $54,400,000 in Q1 twenty twenty five. As Alan mentioned it, net product revenue from NERLYNX sales was $49,200,000 an increase from the $43,100,000 reported in Q1 twenty twenty five. The increase in net revenue was driven primarily by an increase in NERLYNX bottles sold in The U.

Speaker 5

S. And an increase in net selling price. Inventory drawdown by our distributors was approximately $1,300,000 in Q2 versus drawdown of approximately $4,700,000 in Q1 twenty twenty five. Royalty revenue totaled $3,200,000 in the 2025 compared to $2,900,000 in Q1 twenty twenty five. Our gross to net adjustment in Q2 twenty twenty five was 20.8%, unchanged from Q1 twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5

Cost of sales for Q2 twenty twenty five increased to $12,300,000 and includes $2,400,000 for the amortization of intangible assets related to our neratinib license. Cost of sales for Q1 twenty twenty five was $10,600,000 Going forward, we will continue to recognize amortization of the milestone to the licensor about $2,400,000 per quarter as cost of sales. Fiscal year twenty twenty five Puma anticipates that net NERLYNX product revenue will be in the range of $192,000,000 to $198,000,000 We also anticipate that our gross to net adjustment for the full year 2025 will be between 21.522%, higher than prior guidance due to an increase in government chargeback expenses. In addition, for fiscal 2025, we anticipate receiving royalties from our partners around the world in the range of 20,000,000 to $24,000,000 lower than 2024 due to fewer shipments expected to China as our partner works through regulatory transitions during the 2025. We don't expect license revenue in 2025.

Speaker 5

We also expect that net income for the full year will be in the range of $23,000,000 We are not forecasting any potential release of any additional tax asset valuation allowance in our net income estimate at this time. However, this will be evaluated on an ongoing basis. We will continue to keep investors updated on this as it progresses. At this time, we do not believe that the tariffs imposed or proposed to be imposed by The United States, particularly with other countries will have a material impact on our product cost or results of operations. However, shifting trade policies in The United States and other countries have been rapidly evolving and are difficult to predict.

Speaker 5

As a point of reference, our manufacturing product cost accounts for a mid to high single digit percentage of our total cost of goods sold. We anticipate that for Q3 twenty twenty five, Nalix product revenue net will be in the range of 46,000,000 to $48,000,000 Also, we expect Q3 royalty revenues will be in the range of $2,000,000 to 3,000,000 and no license revenue. We further estimate that the gross to net adjustment in Q3 twenty twenty five will be approximately 22.5% to 23.5%. Puma anticipates Q3 net income between $2,000,000 and $4,000,000 SG and A expenses were $18,000,000 in the 2025 compared to $17,600,000 in the first quarter. SG and A expenses included non cash charges for stock based compensation of $1,000,000 for Q2 and $1,200,000 for Q1 twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5

Research and development expenses were 15,500,000 in the 2025, an increase from the $13,800,000 in the first quarter. R and D expenses included non cash charges for stock based compensation of $600,000 in the 2025 compared to $800,000 in the first quarter. On the expense side, Puma anticipates flat to slightly higher total operating expenses in 2025 compared to 2024. More specifically, we anticipate SG and A expenses to decrease by 5% to 10% and R and D expenses to increase by 20% to 25% year over year. The higher increase in R and D is driven by faster enrollments in our clinical trials than previously expected.

Speaker 5

In the 2025, Puma reported cash burn of about 2,900,000 This compares to cash burn of approximately $7,800,000 in Q1. Please note that during Q2, we made our fifth principal payment loan payment of 11,100,000.0 related to our obligation with Ethereum. As a result of this, our total outstanding principal debt balance decreased to approximately 45,000,000 06/30/2025, we had approximately $96,000,000 in cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities versus about $101,000,000 at year end 2024. Our accounts receivables balance was $25,900,000 Our accounts receivable terms range between ten and sixty eight days, while our day sales outstandings are about fifty days. We estimate that as of 06/30/2025, our distribution network maintained approximately three weeks of inventory.

Speaker 5

Overall, we continue to deploy our financial resources to focus on the commercialization of NERLYNX, the development of alisertib and controlling our expenses.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Maximo. Puma senior management in cooperation with Board of Directors continues to remain focused on NERLYNX sales trends in 2025 and beyond and recognizes its fiscal responsibility to the shareholders to continue to maintain positive net income. We are pleased to report demand driven growth in NERLYNX sales in the 2025 and we believe that the positive net income achieved in Q2 twenty twenty five and the company is guiding to for the full year 2025 resulted from the financial discipline across the company over the last three years. The company remains committed to continuing to achieve this positive net income and will continue to reduce expenses if needed to achieve this. We look forward to updating investors on this in the future.

Speaker 2

There continues to be remain a significant unmet medical need for patients battling breast cancer, lung cancer and other solid tumors. At Puma are committed and passionate about finding more effective ways at helping these patients during their journey and we will continue to strive to achieve that goal. This concludes today's presentation. We will now turn the floor back to the operator for Q and A. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from Mark Forham with TD Cowen. Please proceed.

Speaker 6

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. Maybe on the R and D side, you mentioned kind of two data disclosures coming up later this year. One, just the venue for that, do you expect those to be at medical meetings or are those more likely to be corporate updates? And then maybe more importantly is, how do you view the bar there for what justifies further advancement on either side? How does meeting or unfortunately kind of falling short of those bars kind of impact the strategic views when you talk about continuing to look at in licensing additional products?

Speaker 2

Yes, Mark. Thanks for the question. Okay. So in terms of the venue, I think we'd probably do it as a corporate update. Not sure if we do it on an earnings call or something more formal like just a separate presentation to discuss it.

Speaker 2

But something in a venue, would gauge November timeframe for that. To kind of further go into a little more detail on that, on the small cell lung study, I would guess we would probably have somewhere in the neighborhood of forty ish patients treated at fifty milligrams that can talk about the safety, the efficacy and the biomarkers on. We're just now enrolling at sixty milligrams, so not sure if we'd have enough data on that yet. On the breast, we would probably by year end timeframe have say forty to forty five patients across the three arms, so like fourteen to fifteen in each, and be able to discuss the safety, efficacy and biomarkers on those. With the breast, because it's enrolling a lot faster than we expected, I think it might be a little bit of a challenge to get all the data in by year end, so that might get pushed to '26.

Speaker 2

But we'll do our best to try to deliver that. To answer your question in terms of development, so in terms of the path in small cell lung cancer, there was a previous study done, which was the general thoracic oncology study, which was the randomized study of paclitaxel plus alisertib against paclitaxel plus placebo. In groups that had biomarkers that were known to have a role in aurora kinase looked at retrospectively, and that included C MYC, RB1, etcetera, you did see via retrospective analysis a PFS benefit and OS benefit. So our assumption always was when we bought the drug, we were only looking at it in the tumors where the roaner kinase pathway played a role. The question we had was, you know, were we seeing this benefit in that randomized study because alacertib had selective activity or that for some reason there was preclinical data that alacertib could increase the PK of paclitaxel and increase the sensitivity?

Speaker 2

Was that just what we were seeing? So as you said, the monotherapy study, we are indeed seeing a benefit of alosertib in the patients with the biomarker selected for those selected for the ROR kinase pathway. To answer your question on the bar, look, you have a trial which is paclitaxel plus alasertib against paclitaxel placebo. Whatever that magnitude of benefit is, we would hope with the monotherapy to see a similar benefit in PFS, right? If you're not seeing a PFS benefit, it would be difficult to get an OS benefit, so you got to get both.

Speaker 2

And I think from an approval standpoint, that's it's clear in small cell lung cancer you're going need a PFS benefit and most likely an OS. So that to answer your question, that would be the threshold to take forward. On the breast side, there's not a pathway in ER positive breast to get approval based on response rate. It's got to be PFS and OS. So I think again we would need to see a PFS in that third line setting.

Speaker 2

That would be something we would want to invest in and take forward. That would clearly need to be something better than what is being seen with the endocrine alone. And again, I think we would again look to most likely try to develop that in biomarker subgroups where the aurora kinase pathway plays a role. And the last part of your question, should any of those fall short, would we immediately go run out and try to bring something else in? No, we probably want to be selective.

Speaker 2

Look, being a profitable company, we 100% recognize our fiscal responsibility to the shareholders. Spending money on projects that aren't going to result in benefits patients and hence it benefits shareholders, not something we're looking to do.

Speaker 6

Okay. That's helpful. I mean, I was also asking the other direction also as well. Like if they if you do kind of meet those bars, next steps in one or two tumor types, is that enough that you maybe wouldn't be very interested in bringing in additional products as well?

Speaker 2

To be honest with you Mark, look, there's a lot of things out there we could bring in. And to be honest, that's both on the commercial side and in the development side. It's having been a profitable company now for what have you got, three, four years, it allows you to be in control of your own destiny. And I think that's something that we like and we like having the ability to tell shareholders that we don't need any additional capital and we have enough to get this in our models, we have enough to get alacertib to the market just through our own commercial efforts and investing the profits from NERLYNX in alosertib. I really wouldn't want to do anything as we've said in the speech many times that makes this company unprofitable, just not something we would want to do.

Speaker 2

So and that's true both in terms of bringing in additional commercial assets and bringing in and or bringing in a development stage one.

Speaker 6

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back to Mary Anne for closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you all for joining us today. As a reminder, this webcast may be accessed via replay at pumabiotechnology.com beginning later today. Have a good evening.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference call. This concludes our program. Everyone have a great day. You may now disconnect.

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