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Earnings HistoryForecast Martin Marietta Materials EPS ResultsActual EPS$4.76Consensus EPS $5.36Beat/MissMissed by -$0.60One Year Ago EPS$5.60Martin Marietta Materials Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.76 billionExpected Revenue$1.83 billionBeat/MissMissed by -$70.69 millionYoY Revenue Growth-3.10%Martin Marietta Materials Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/8/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, August 8, 2024Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsMartin Marietta Materials' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Martin Marietta Materials Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 8, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 16 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Welcome to Martin Marietta's Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants are now in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the company's prepared remarks. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the company's website. I will now turn the call over to your host, Ms. Operator00:00:21Jacqueline Rucker, Martin Murrieta's Director of Investor Relations. Jacqueline, you may begin. Speaker 100:00:31Good morning. It's my pleasure to welcome you to Martin Marietta's Q2 2024 Earnings Call. With me today are Ward Nye, Chair and Chief Executive Officer and Jim Nickolas, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today's discussion may include forward looking statements as defined by United States securities laws in connection with future events, future operating results or financial performance. Like other businesses, Martin Marietta is subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Speaker 100:01:07We undertake no obligation, except as legally required, to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements, whether resulting from new information, future developments or otherwise. Please refer to the legal disclaimers contained in today's earnings release and other public filings, which are available both our own and the Securities Exchange Commission's websites. We have made available during this webcast and on the Investors section of our website supplemental information that summarizes our financial results and trends. As a reminder, all financial and operating results discussed today are for continuing operations. In addition, non GAAP measures are defined and reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measure in the appendix to the supplemental information as well as our filings with the SEC and are also available on our website. Speaker 100:02:05Gord Nye will begin today's earnings call with a discussion of our 2nd quarter operating performance and our Bluewater Industries acquisition, as well as our outlook for the remainder of 2024 and current market trends. Jim Nickolas will then review our financial results and capital allocation. After which, Ward will provide closing comments. A question and answer session will follow. Please limit your Q and A participation to one question. Speaker 100:02:36I will now turn the call over to Ward. Speaker 200:02:39Thank you, Jacqueline, and thank you all for joining this teleconference. As indicated in today's earnings release, several dynamics impacted our Q2 financial results and particularly product shipments. The most notable driver was an historic 119% increase in precipitation in Dallas Fort Worth, our company's single largest and most profitable metropolitan marketplace as well as disproportionate rain and flooding in parts of the Midwest. Secondarily, the lag effect of restrictive monetary policy is pressuring interest rate sensitive private construction demand more than previously anticipated. And while our value over volume philosophy also contributed modestly to the shipment decline, the benefits of our commercial strategy are clearly evidenced by the Q2's strong unit profitability growth and adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. Speaker 200:03:30Moving forward, our team remains focused on what we can control and view the demand impacts from weather and high interest rates as temporary. That said, we expect slower shipment trends to persist in the year's second half. As a result, we revised our full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA guidance to $2,200,000,000 at the midpoint. Our 2nd quarter shipments were below our initial expectations, there were notable highlights worthy of mentioned as foundational for Martin Marietta's long term success. Starting first with safety. Speaker 200:04:06I'm proud to report that we concluded the first half of twenty twenty four with the best safety instant rates in our company's history inclusive of our newly acquired businesses. Operationally, we expanded our adjusted EBITDA margin and achieved record second quarter organic and total aggregates gross profit despite significant weather headwinds. Importantly, aggregates pricing fundamentals remain attractive with aggregates average selling price increasing 11.6% or 12% on an organic mix adjusted basis. We expect this commercial momentum and related margin expansion to continue following realization of our previously announced July pricing actions. These accomplishments underscore the resiliency of our aggregates led business reinforced by our team's fidelity to maintaining a safe workplace and our unrelenting commitment to both commercial and operational excellence. Speaker 200:05:05From a portfolio optimization standpoint, on April 5, we completed the acquisition of 20 aggregates operations from Bluewater Industries and in so doing, efficiently redeploy the cash proceeds from the South Texas cement and concrete divestiture. These high quality pure play aggregates operations from Bluewater strategically complement our existing footprint in the Southeastern United States and position us in attractive new markets including Tennessee and South Florida for future growth. I'm pleased to report that the integration of both the Bluewater and Albert Fry and Sons acquisitions is complete. The combined financial performance has exceeded management's initial expectations and the synergy realization will be increasingly compelling. Moving forward, the M and A pipeline remains active and largely focused on pure play aggregates businesses and attractive SOAR identified geographies. Speaker 200:06:02Shifting now to end market trends, our single most aggregates intensive end use is infrastructure, which continues to benefit from increased funding and investment levels. While highway and street spending is expected to remain well above historic levels, leading indicators are predictably starting to lap more robust comparable periods. This is evidenced in the value of state and local government highway, bridge and tunnel contract awards for the 12 month period ending June 30, 2024, which declined modestly below 2023 levels to $114,000,000,000 Funding certainty at the federal level through the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act or IIJA together with record state DOT budgets and constituent actions support a healthy pricing environment for construction materials in 2025 and beyond. With the 2024 election process well underway, it's important to note rebuilding and enhancing our nation's infrastructure and manufacturing capabilities remain bipartisan, national strategic priorities as revealed by the high passage rates on local infrastructure ballot initiatives and 3 key legislative actions, the IIJA, the Inflation Reduction Act and the CHIPS Act. Moving now to heavy non residential construction, reshoring activity for large manufacturing and energy projects continues to drive product demand. Speaker 200:07:29Aside from warehouse construction, which is contracting from its post COVID peak, starts on a square footage basis remain well above what were healthy 2019 levels. While not wholly offsetting, construction spending for domestic manufacturing continues to trend positively with the June 2024 ceasing adjusted annual rate of spending at $236,000,000,000 a 19% increase from the June 2023 value of $198,000,000,000 Importantly, the breadth of restoring projects is expanding from automotive batteries and semiconductors to pharmaceuticals. For example, Novo Nordisk is investing $4,000,000,000 to build a 1,400,000 square foot manufacturing facility near Raleigh, North Carolina, for which we're well positioned to supply from our nearby quarries. In addition, while artificial intelligence is in its early stages, Martin Marietta is geographically well positioned to capitalize on the related data center and infrastructure build out led by Big Tech, including Amazon, who's announced plans to invest more than $100,000,000,000 over the next decade on data centers alone. Relative to light non residential and residential activity, restrictive monetary policy continues to impact these interest rate sensitive end markets. Speaker 200:08:50The lock in effect of high mortgage rates and low inventory are only serving to exacerbate the well chronicled housing affordability and availability issues in many of our company's key metropolitan areas. That said, recent inflation and employment data should provide the foundation for accommodative Federal Reserve policy actions later this year and into 2025. I encourage you to read more on this as discussed in the CEO commentary and market perspective released earlier today. Beyond 2024, we expect the generational highway and streets investments as the nascent reshoring and artificial intelligence infrastructure build out are very much expected to provide an extended multiyear construction cycle in these aggregates intensive end markets. Equally, when the affordability headwinds recede, we fully expect an accelerated housing construction recovery, specifically in single family, which will be required to address the structural deficit of homes in many of Martin Marietta's key markets. Speaker 200:09:54Importantly, as history informs us, growth in single family construction bodes well for light non residential activity, which typically follows with a lag. But in this instance, a lag which we believe will be more abbreviated than previous cycles. I'll now turn the call over to Jim to discuss our Q2 financial results. Jim? Speaker 300:10:14Thank you, Ward, and good morning, everyone. As Ward mentioned and shown in today's release, we revised our full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA guidance to $2,200,000,000 at the midpoint, reflecting our first half results and revised second half shipments expectations. In the Q2, the Building Materials business generated revenues of $1,700,000,000 a decrease of 3% and gross profit of $501,000,000 a decrease of 7%. The decline in both metrics is attributable to the divestiture of our South Texas cement and related concrete businesses as well as shipment declines experienced in the quarter most notably due to wet weather partially offset by contributions of the Albert, Fry and Sons and Bluewater acquisitions. The net positive impact of acquisitions and divestitures in the Q2 was $7,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 300:11:12Our aggregates product line established 2nd quarter records for revenues and gross profit as contributions from acquired operations and strong pricing more than offset lower shipments. Aggregates gross profit per ton improved 9% to a 2nd quarter record of $7.41 That number is inclusive of the $20,000,000 or $0.37 per ton non recurring, non cash purchase accounting impact of the fair market value write up of inventory related to the Bluewater acquisition, which was fully recognized in the 2nd quarter. Excluding this purchase accounting impact gross profit per ton increased 14%. These impressive results reveal and affirm how our disciplined commercial strategy and flexible cost structure yields higher profits despite lower volumes. Cement and Concrete revenues decreased 37 percent to $261,000,000 and gross profit decreased 44% to $72,000,000 again driven primarily by the divestiture of our South Texas cement plant and its related concrete operations. Speaker 300:12:19And secondarily, by significant wet April, May and early June weather in Dallas Fort Worth. Notably, our strategic Midlothian cement plants daily shipping rates returned to near sold out levels exiting the quarter. Remember too, we expect our new finished mill to be operational in the 3rd quarter, which has the capacity to add approximately 450,000 tons of incremental high margin annual production capacity in the attractive North Texas market. Our asphalt and paving revenues and gross profit increased modestly to $245,000,000 $37,000,000 respectively, both 2nd quarter records, in large measure due to pricing improvements and energy cost tailwinds. Magnesia Specialties revenues of $81,000,000 were in line with the prior year quarter, while gross profit decreased 2% to $27,000,000 Strong pricing, improved maintenance cost management and energy cost tailwinds helped counterbalance lower chemical and lime shipments. Speaker 300:13:24SOAR has long provided the framework we use to grow our business and deploy capital for long term success. During the first half of this year, we deployed over $2,500,000,000 on pure play aggregates acquisitions, invested $339,000,000 of capital into our business and returned $542,000,000 to shareholders through dividend payments and share repurchases. In the 2nd quarter alone, we repurchased 530,000 shares at an average price of $5.66 per share. Since our repurchase authorization announced in February 2015, we have returned a total of $3,200,000,000 to shareholders through both dividends and share repurchases. Our net debt to EBITDA ratio was 2 times as of June 30, at the low end of our targeted range of 2 to 2.5 times, providing balance sheet strength and ample flexibility to actively pursue our M and A pipeline, reinvest in our business and extend our long track record of returning capital to Martinrea to shareholders, all while preserving financial flexibility and our investment grade credit rating profile. Speaker 300:14:34With that, I will turn the call back over to Ward. Speaker 200:14:36Thanks, Jim. In 2024, Martin Marietta is proudly celebrating our 30th year as a publicly traded company. Our 3 decades of success has been the result of an unwavering commitment to safety and the disciplined execution of our proven strategy. As we plan for the next 30 years, we're confident Martin Marietta is well positioned to continue leading our industry's evolution, while at the same time navigating through inevitable macroeconomic cycles and driving sustainable attractive growth. We remain committed to building and maintaining the safest, best performing and most durable aggregates led business and look forward to delivering superior shareholder value for our stakeholders for years decades to come. Speaker 200:15:19If the operator will now provide the required instructions, we'll turn our attention to addressing your questions. Operator00:15:30Thank Your first question comes from the line of Kathryn Thompson from Thompson Research Group. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 400:16:09Hi. Thank you for taking my questions today. The first is focused on Q2 and just better understanding the impact of how much of it was market, maybe more color on the volume impacting the quarter? And then part and parcel with that, how should we think about the balance of Q3 and Q4 in terms of how profitability should flow through given some of the obvious weather comps that you and your peers have been facing? Thank you. Speaker 200:16:44Good morning, Catherine. Thank you for the question. So look, weather was a big deal in Q2. There's no doubt about it. So I said in the prepared remarks that it was 119% wetter in DFW this year than it was last year. Speaker 200:16:58And the fact is if you look at what happened in North Texas all by itself, but then you couple that with what happened in the Central Division. And what I'll suppose is most people don't think about the Central Division as being impactful to us as it is. Really, if we're looking at Dallas itself and the Central Division together, those two areas of business typically represent nearly 40% of our Q2 shipments. So if we're looking at significant rain in Dallas and significant rain in flooding in the Midwest, that was really a serious body blow to the business. And what I liked about that is it took that blow and came in with record aggregates profitability, record unit profitability and did all of that taking on the $20,000,000 of inventory fair markup that we've totally absorbed in Q2. Speaker 200:17:52So seeing what happened in Dallas was important, understanding what happened in the Midwest was important. But I was also taken with the resiliency of our cement business in North Texas. Again, we've long defined what equals strategic cement for us. And clearly, what we have in that market is just that. I mean, we saw organic shipment volumes down about 18% and again that was all driven by Reign, but pricing up nearly 10% and with very, very good performance. Speaker 200:18:23And as Jim indicated in his comments, we were seeing that marketplace turn to near sold out levels as soon as the rain abated. So those were issues. I think 50% at least of what we saw in the quarter was attributable to rain. Do I think a portion of it was attributable to the economy? Yes, probably 25% of it. Speaker 200:18:46So what am I seeing there? It's really what we indicated. Private construction, because of what's happening with interest rates, are seeing degrees of modest pullback. But the important thing to remember there, Catherine, is we don't see markets that are overbuilt today in Martin Marietta marketplaces. So we feel like that's going to be fleeting. Speaker 200:19:07But equally, value over volume cost us some tonnage during the quarter. But the fact is, we're perfectly okay with that. Again, we monitor that. We're going to be thoughtful around it. But again, we're seeing continued expanded adjusted EBITDA margins in what we're doing. Speaker 200:19:25We feel like the breakdown we've had between weather at 50%, market at 25% and value over volume at about 25% makes sense. But the other part of your question went to the cadence of how we think about the quarters. Let me turn that over to Jim to talk you through that a bit because that is going to change modestly. Speaker 300:19:43Yes. Last year, Catherine, second half of the year, about 60% of consolidated EBITDA came through in Q3 and 40% came through in Q4. Because of what we're seeing this year with weather, etcetera, in July and even August, the split is probably closer to 55% Q3, 45% in Q4. So a little bit more Q4 weighted this year than normal. Speaker 400:20:12Okay, perfect. And just one follow-up, if I may, just on the outlook, when you look at backlogs or jobs in the Q. What are you seeing in terms of project types? And how are how is pricing on these type of projects, which obviously play into margins? Thanks very much. Speaker 200:20:38Sure. Thank you, Catherine. We'll look if we're looking at customer backlogs, they're up sequentially, so they continue to build. Number 1, I think that's important. Number 2, if we're looking at the nature of the projects, look, infrastructure is going to be a good end use for several years and we see that continuing. Speaker 200:20:55If we're looking at non res, we're seeing degrees of shifts there and by the way, that's not a surprise to us. So are we seeing more factories? The answer is yes. Are we seeing good pricing that goes with that? The answer is yes. Speaker 200:21:07Are we seeing good steady work and growing work, frankly, relative to energy? The answer is yes. Are we seeing growing work relative to data centers? For all the reasons that I indicated in the prepared remarks and in the commentary that we published today, that continues to grow. Obviously, warehousing is not, that's not a surprise to anyone. Speaker 200:21:28And what we're seeing is you almost have 2 lanes of travel. You have data centers in one lane and they're going in a positive direction and warehousing is going in the other and you're seeing those percentages almost pass each other on a precise precision or percentage basis today. So that's the type of work that we're seeing. The other thing that we're beginning to see and this is more in Georgia, it's in North Carolina, it's in South Carolina. We're seeing green shoots and degrees of single family housing right now. Speaker 200:22:01And again, that's not a big surprise simply because of the population dynamics. And again, relative to housing, we're such a small portion of the overall housing that traditionally in single family housing, back to the essence of your question that tends to be very attractive priced materials, Catherine. So I hope that's helpful. Operator00:22:21Yes. Thanks so Speaker 400:22:22much and best of luck. Speaker 200:22:24Thank you. Operator00:22:31Your next question comes from the line of Stanley Elliott of Stifel. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 500:22:38Hey, good morning, everyone. Nice work despite this difficult environment. Ward, could you maybe walk us through kind of the revised guide, some of the puts and takes and see maybe what will get us to the high end versus the low end, just as we're sitting here today kind of halfway through the Speaker 200:22:58year? You bet. Happy to. And Stanley, thank you for your comments. We appreciate it. Speaker 200:23:02I'm with you. I think that was actually very good performance given what our team managed through. So several things. Look, let's start with pricing. So as you've seen, we've reaffirmed our pricing guide of 11% to 13% up and that includes the previously announced mid years for California for the fry business for Bluewater locations as well as a targeted product and market specific mid years in other geographies. Speaker 200:23:25And by the way, that's pretty typical for us. The one thing that I think is going to be important this year relative to the mid years, so much volume that had already been bid at the January 1 pricing is still yet to go because of the deferral that we've seen. So typically in a year, I've always told you historically, look, you could probably see about a quarter of the mid years really show up in any given year in which they're put in. I think the mid years are going to be notably more impactful in 'twenty five. In other words, when we come back to you in January and talk about our guide for next year, I think you're going to see more mid years affecting that this year than not. Speaker 200:24:07So that's how we're thinking about the ASP in the guide. Relative to volumes, clearly that reflects an impacted first half result and early weather here in the second half of the year. Look, July was wet and we're sitting here today as tropical storm Debbie is going through the Carolinas. So we're living that. And so we're trying to take our experience with those events and really build that into the volume guide for the second half of the year. Speaker 200:24:35So we feel confident that we've hit that with as much clarity as we can given these circumstances. Look, relative to what will be expected as lower shipment levels, our teams are going to be focused as you would imagine us to very much on cost control and making sure we're flexing our costs with demand. So we're very focused on that. The other thing that I think you'll see is given the inventory builds that we had with wet weather where we're producing but not selling, there's going to be a little bit of inventory drawdown and that's going to impact us a bit in half 2 and it can provide a modest headwind to EBITDA. But again, we've taken that into account in what we put out there for you. Speaker 200:25:21One thing to keep in mind too is we're looking at the EBITDA guide, and I think this is something that's easy to forget. We grew EBITDA in 2023 by 33%. I mean that's a really big number and it gives you a difficult year compare, but at the same time we're seeing EBITDA margin grow. And even at the guide, we're looking at a 2 year CAGR of high teens, I mean, getting close 17%, getting close to 20%. So again, numbers that we're very proud of, numbers that we feel good about as we're going into the second half of the year. Speaker 200:25:55And again, a foundation, particularly relative to pricing that we think puts us in a very attractive place as we start increasingly thinking about 2025, Stanley. Speaker 500:26:06Perfect, Ward. Thanks so much for the color and best of luck in the back half of the year. Speaker 200:26:09Thanks, Stanley. Operator00:26:14Your next question comes from the line of Trey Greer of Stephens. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 600:26:22Hey, good morning, everyone. And I'll echo Stanley's comment about the good work in a tough environment. Speaker 200:26:31Thank you, Trey, very much. Speaker 600:26:34So I guess I've got really the main one I wanted to talk about was kind of you've seen some slowing or maybe a little bit of deceleration you mentioned on the kind of on the activity front in addition to weather, there was some of that. And you've broken out in the past, I think as recently as the last call, infrastructure and kind of your expectation for the year, I think what's kind of mid to high single improvement. Res was, I think, down low singles and non res low singles to mid single down. If we kind of look at your new view of the world and in light of kind of what we've seen with some of the activity out there, is there any way you can kind of help us kind of bridge back these kind of expectations for these end markets relative to kind of what you were looking for? Speaker 200:27:28Sure. Happy to, Trey. And that's a great question. So if we think through it, I'll actually work from the bottom up. So we were previously in res. Speaker 200:27:37We were saying, look, res was going to be down low single digits to mid single digits. So now as we see it, look, we think it's going to be at mid. So we've gone to the lower end of the original guide, if you see what I mean relative to res. If we're looking at non res, we had previously said, look, that's going to be down mid single digits to high. So we've really taken the same view on that that we have relative to res. Speaker 200:28:00We said that's going to be down high single digits, not because we think heavy is not going to be good. I think heavy is going to be increasingly good. These are going to be big jobs. It's going to take a little bit of time. But really what we've done, we've looked at the public side of it. Speaker 200:28:16We've said we thought public would be up mid single digits to high single digits. We actually think that's now going to be modestly down and it's more of a timing issue than anything else, because part of what we're assuming is, let's assume we're going to have a relatively normal weather calendar year this year. And if we go to businesses like the Central Division, once we get toward late October, frankly, you're rolling the dice a little bit on whether you're going to have good business, there won't be frozen weather impacted in November December. So now we pulled back a bit on infrastructure. And again, that's not work, Trey, as you know that's going to go away. Speaker 200:28:57It's going to be work that's going to be pushed into 2025. And for a lot of reasons, we're perfectly okay with that. But relative to the guide and relative to the end uses, I hope that puts the specificity around it that will be helpful to you. Speaker 600:29:11Yes, absolutely. That was perfectly helpful. Just one last one, if I could sneak one in. I think you mentioned that the integration of Bluewater and Albert Fry and Sons are complete. And it sounds like they're performing at least as good as your expectations, if not better. Speaker 600:29:29If you can maybe go a little bit more, comments about kind of where you're seeing the outsized benefits or where they're exceeding expectations? And also just on the pipeline, I mean, you just completed 2 deals this year, one pretty big one. Do you think we should what's the pipeline look like? And do you think we should be looking for more kind of tuck in deals given that recent M and A activity you've been doing? Or could there still be the potential for some chunky deals out there for you guys? Speaker 200:29:58Great questions, Tricia. Thank you for all of that. So we'll start with both Bluewater and Alfre relative to integration. So you're right. I mean from our perspective, those integrations are done. Speaker 200:30:08They have been tucked in. They're pure bolt ons. Our integration process is extraordinarily efficient, and we've discussed that before. We typically integrate the back office systems and processes and onboard people literally over the course of a weekend. So our intention is typically to close on a Friday and do a lot of training over the course of the weekend, open Monday and have people going over our scales, getting Martin Marietta tickets and having them in our systems. Speaker 200:30:36And that's exactly what happened. So as we think about what's happening with those businesses now, operationally, they're performing really very well, number 1. Number 2, these are folks who know that they've got a forever home right now. I mean, we're an aggregates led business. They're delighted to be a part of Martin Marietta. Speaker 200:30:56Number 3, their safety numbers have been extraordinary. I mentioned in my opening commentary that from an incident rate perspective, this was the safest quarter that Martin Marietta has ever had. And to be able to say that after we've done the degree of acquisitions that we've done, in my view, is pretty extraordinary. Now if we think about what continued synergy realization is going to look like, several things. Number 1, we will continue to invest responsibly in these businesses in fixed plant, rolling stock, etcetera. Speaker 200:31:27And we think that will continue to make the businesses more efficient. But equally important, the pricing at those locations is actually notably below a Martin Marietta corporate average. By that, I mean, let's call it $4 plus a ton. So if I go back to the commentary that we had on targeted mid years and the fact that they're coming through the way that we would have expected on the acquisitions, That's going to give us continued near term upside on those businesses. We think that's likely to persist for a number of years. Speaker 200:31:59Operationally, they will continue to get better for a while. So we think there's going to be goodness that's going to be coming to us from Bluewater, from the Albert Fry and Sons and by the way from the continued acquisitions in California and Arizona for a while yet. Now that leads into the second part of your question that is what does the pipeline look like? And the pipeline continues to look attractive. The pipeline continues to be almost entirely pure aggregates businesses. Speaker 200:32:28And they tend to be a bit of a blend of what you said. Some of them have a little bit of chunkiness to them. A lot of them are nice tuck away transactions. We hope we'll have more for you on some of that as the year goes on. As you know, between what's gone in and what's gone out this year, we've done well over $4,000,000,000 worth of transactions. Speaker 200:32:47But if we're sitting at a net leverage of 2 times as of June 30, as you know, that gives us ample dry powder to continue doing what I think is really a core competency for Martin Marietta and that is doing M and A and doing it well. M and A is something that's in our DNA and we're very proud of that. So Trey, thank you for that second question. I hope that cleared some of those items up too. Speaker 600:33:11Yes, great color. Thanks Ward. Best of luck. Speaker 200:33:14Take care. Operator00:33:19Your next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 700:33:28Yes. Hi, good morning, everyone. Speaker 200:33:30Good morning, Jerry. Speaker 700:33:32What I wonder if I can just ask you conceptually right this year, you folks had excellent pricing based on the volumes that we're seeing from everyone across the board. You haven't had to seed market share. To get this level of pricing, we're seeing stubborn inflation across repair and maintenance and elsewhere. How does that impact how you're thinking about 'twenty five? Obviously, we can't count on a volume ramp back up. Speaker 700:33:59So I'm wondering based on what you're seeing and the receptivity of price increases and inflation, I guess, what are the prospects for potential double digit pricing year again in 2025 based on everything you've seen year to date? Speaker 200:34:16Obviously, we'll give you more of a definitive guide on that as we go into next year. But Jerry, as I think about the building blocks for what we have, I think infrastructure is going to stay very attractive. I think housing in our markets has more than found bottom. I think that's going to get attractive. I think heavy non res is and is going to stay attractive. Speaker 200:34:36As I indicated in the commentary, I think the lag we've typically seen between non res on the light side and res is going to be abbreviated. I think that sets us up for a really attractive 2025 and beyond relative to pricing. From my perspective, the pricing that you have seen in Martin Marietta for 30 years as a public company that I think you would look at and say historically has looked really good, frankly, is seeing a step change. And I think the step change is appropriate, but for a number of reasons. And among others is people now are starting to think about this business on what does replacement cost look like for these hugely valuable reserves. Speaker 200:35:13I mean if we look at the reserves we have today, 70 plus years at current extraction rates is a significant body of reserves. At the same time, I don't think that we should be punished for having the discipline and having the vision to make sure that we've got adequate reserves. So does that tell me and does that help inform you that we think pricing will continue to be at what I think will be new levels And probably in that zip code of what you're talking about, I think the answer is yes, it probably will. And again, we'll come back with more definitiveness on that in February, but I would not encourage you to think about it materially differently. Speaker 700:35:54Super. And can I ask, Jim, in terms of the midpoint of the aggregates gross profit and top line parameters, it looks like on a year over year basis, you're guiding to about 2 points of gross margin expansion back half 'twenty four versus back half 'twenty three, which is better than the first half? Is that right? And can you unpack the drivers behind that if that's the case? How much of that is the mid years in Tennessee and California etcetera that's driving the acceleration in the outlook? Speaker 300:36:27Yes. No, you're right. Those ballpark numbers are correct. The star of the show as always has been growing ASP. So that's flowing through in the second half of the year. Speaker 300:36:37That's the primary metric that's driving that improved margin, Jerry. Secondary impact is, as I mentioned in prior calls, inflation is abating, it's moderating as the year goes on. So the cost pressures are, by and large coming back down, not to where they were pre COVID, of course, but 5 to 6 percentage points on baseline cost inflation. So those two things are the main driver. Speaker 700:37:04Thank you. Speaker 200:37:06Thank you, Jerry. Operator00:37:09Your next question comes from the line of Anthony Pettinari of Citi. Please ask your question. Speaker 800:37:17Good morning. Speaker 700:37:18Hi, Anthony. Speaker 300:37:19Hey, Ward, could you talk Speaker 800:37:21a little bit more about maybe state funding environments as you think about next 12 months in fiscal 2025. I think there was some data that suggested general fund spending for the states could be down in fiscal 'twenty five after a number of years of very strong growth. Obviously, that's not one to one to DOT spending. But just wondering if you could kind of through the states and where you're maybe the most excited and seeing some growth versus which could be lighter kind of as you think about next 12 months? Speaker 200:37:52No, thank you for the question. I appreciate it very much. So let's just mark through March together. So look, we're looking at Texas DOT lettings for FY 2024 lettings forecast of 13.7%, that's up 17% from the year before. But equally, if we're looking to see where they are next year, again, they're looking to be up over that next year. Speaker 200:38:12If I'm looking at Colorado, they passed a $5,300,000,000 10 year infrastructure bill and that basically ensures consistent stream of DOT funding beginning in 2023 and that's going to go on for several years. And we expect even going into 'twenty 5 the Colorado DOT is going to have at least $3,700,000,000 available to spend and that's going to be a really attractive budget. If we're looking here in a backyard in North Carolina, we expect their budget to increase to $7,600,000,000 for FY 2025. Again, that's an increase over prior year. And part of what's notable there, keep in mind, North Carolina started looking at different ways to fund their infrastructure a few years ago and from 2025 thereafter, they're going to be using sales taxes at about 6% to fund infrastructure work here in North Carolina. Speaker 200:39:02That's going to make a nice difference. Equally, if we look at Georgia, their 25 budget of $4,200,000,000 that's a 7% increase over where it was in 2024. And this one's interesting to me, even if we look at Florida, Florida's budget, if you look at it topside looks like it's going down, but that's only because FY 2024 had about $2,100,000,000 of one time supplements that were in it. So if we're looking at a base budget in Florida of about $15,100,000,000 we're looking at what we think is a base in FY 2025 of about $15,500,000,000 The punch line is this, if we go and look at our top 10 states, Texas is up, Florida is up from a base budget perspective, North Carolina is up, Indiana is up, Georgia is up, Colorado is up, Arizona is up and Texas is up. So really there are 2 states that are down. Speaker 200:39:521 is Minnesota, it's going from 4.5 to about 4. And to put that in some context, Minnesota is going to have a DOT budget next year that's livening about where Georgia is. I don't think that's a bad place for Minnesota to be. And California is going to be modestly down. And I think that's simply in keeping with what we see more broadly in the California budgeting process. Speaker 200:40:14But again, if I look at these top 10 states, it looks awfully attractive to me. But equally, when I look at the highway contract awards over a period of time, like if we go back to, let's call it mid year 2022 on an LTM basis and look at where it is this year in June at an LTM basis, it's up 25% and that's the step change that we thought we would see on contract awards. And again, part of SOAR that Jim referenced in his comments dictated where we wanted to be and one of the places we wanted to be or places that had good long durable DOT budgets and had people moving those states so they would have the imperative to continue to invest. And as we look at how those state DOT budgets look today and how they're going to look more importantly to your question tomorrow, we have a lot of confidence about that and have a very attractive outlook as we contemplate it. So Anthony, I hope it's helpful. Speaker 800:41:15No, that's extremely helpful. I'll turn it over. Thank you. Speaker 200:41:19Thank you. Operator00:41:22Your next question comes from the line of Angel Castillo of Morgan Stanley. Please ask your question. Speaker 900:41:30Hi, good morning. Ward, thanks for taking that question. Just wanted to drill in a little bit more on the kind of 25% of the volume that decline that was maybe related to kind of price over volume strategy. Could you just talk about is there any sense for kind of what markets that may be occurring more and or some of the competitive dynamics that might be driving that versus kind of a greater or increasing kind of discipline toward price over volume? Speaker 200:41:57You know what it was interesting because I took that same deep dive that you're trying to do intellectually just to make sure that there wasn't some overriding trend or something that we needed to be concerned about or alarmed by, and it wasn't. I mean, as you recognize and we do too, markets in our world tend to be an MSA because the weight to price ratio that I spoke of in the CEO commentary, the material often doesn't travel very far. And what we see on occasion is somebody can be aggressive, somebody can be long on any given product. There can be just a whole host of things that can drive different degrees of behavior in different markets. So we're not seeing anything that's overwhelming in any one market that causes us any concern. Speaker 200:42:47Obviously, we've stated a preference for value over volume. We believe in that. We see it in the numbers. We believe that it's proving its efficacy and what we're seeing in the financial results. At the same time, we're always going to be thoughtful around are we pushing too hard on occasion and are we losing too much. Speaker 200:43:09And so it's a process we do go through. It's a dialogue that we do have here in this office. But more importantly, we have it with our division presence and VPGMs. So there's no one area that if I were you, I would look at and have any concern about. Obviously, I don't want to talk about specific markets per se. Speaker 200:43:30It was really more of a weather event than anything else, degrees of softening and then here or there on pricing. But, Andrew, that's the best way that I can guide you to think about it right now. Speaker 900:43:44That's very helpful. Thank you. And then maybe yes, of course. And maybe just a follow-up on the cement business. You talked about that returning kind of being close to full sold out in the quarter or I guess shut in the Q3. Speaker 900:43:58So just was hoping you could give us a little bit more color or remind us how we should kind of be thinking about the flow through of the expansion in terms of ramp up of volumes and how you kind of see the profitability of that business as we kind of normalize from these weather impacts? Speaker 200:44:14Sure. So I'll do a couple of things. One, I'll ask Jim to speak to the capital project that we have underway and he can give you a bit more on that and the 450,000 tons that will be added through that because we'll be thoughtful around the way that we do it. But obviously, if we're just looking at what happened relative to the weather in DFW, that was the driver, pure and simply. I mean that took organic shipments down about 18%. Speaker 200:44:37But again, pricing was up 9.5 percent. And part of what we saw in that business is we actually saw gross margins expand in that business. And that's one reason that we speak to what we've long called strategic cement. It's where we're an aggregates leader, where the market's naturally vertically integrated, where we have a downstream business and we do in Dallas that takes about 30% of what we're doing there. And its ability to be interdicted by waterborne imports is really quite minimal. Speaker 200:45:05And so if we look at what strategic cement for us is, it's Midlothian. If we look at how the pricing behaved, it behaved well. Despite the fact that organic shipments were down, we still expanded gross margins, which is why we want to invest capital in that market. And for that, let me turn to Jim and he can give you a sense of where we are in that process and how we think about volume. Speaker 300:45:29Yes. So that project, the Finish Mill 7 as we call it, will be completed this quarter. As you know, it's 450,000 tons per year annual production capacity. So give or take 110 ish 1,000 per quarter. We won't hit the market with that full speed on day 1. Speaker 300:45:49We'll be responsible about feathering in those volumes to ensure we don't disrupt the commercial strategy we've been following in that marketplace. Some more to come on when that comes out, but that will be helpful to us, a, in terms of volume, but also more importantly, operational flexibility, wait time for customers, storage facilities, our ability to react to different events is enhanced as a result of this project. So we're looking for this to improve margins going forward and of course volumes as those become available to us. Speaker 200:46:21Angel, the last part of your question was what we see happening in volumes here as quarter ended. And I think we indicated as weather got better in Dallas Fort Worth, we were back to near sold out conditions at Midlothian. So I think that puts a bow around Speaker 900:46:36it. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Operator00:46:42Your next question comes from the line of Garik Shmois of Loop Capital. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 1000:46:50Good morning. It's actually Zach Pacheco on for Gerrick this morning. Thanks for taking my question. Appreciate you guys walking through the outlook on state funding moving forward a couple of questions ago. Maybe just to dive into that real quickly. Speaker 1000:47:04We've been hearing others citing inflation kind of eating into those IIJA base dollars, therefore causing some delays. Just curious if you guys are seeing that at all or are the base dollars truly just flowing through nicely? Thanks. Speaker 200:47:19I think we'd be naive to assume that degrees of inflation haven't eaten into that. And so when we went back over time, I've said before, if whatever the volume that people thought would come out of IIJA, the year it was signed into law, have you seen some of that being eroded by inflation? Yes, I think so. But at the end of the day, very selfishly from a Martin Marietta perspective, would we trade the volume that we see for the pricing that we're seeing? The answer is yes. Speaker 200:47:51I think part of what's so important to keep in mind too is I don't think IIJA is a one hit wonder. In other words, I think we simply changed the floor in the way that the United States Congress and the government will continue to invest in infrastructure because keep in mind, we went a decade and a half with woefully underfunded infrastructure. So I think in many respects, yes, some degree of volume has been taken out simply because of inflation. At the same time, I believe when we see a reauthorization of this act, we're likely to see something at or above where this is. And again, it'll provide a nice extended period of time for the United States to invest in this much needed infrastructure. Speaker 200:48:35At the same time, it will allow us to make sure that we're getting the appropriate return for our very valuable materials that are in the ground and that we work hard to turn into a spec product. So that's the way that we think about it. There's nothing per se new in that, but I think it's important to be able to articulate that to the investing public because I think from our perspective it works. Speaker 1000:48:58No, that makes sense. Thanks. Speaker 900:49:00Thank you. Operator00:49:03Your next question comes from the line of Keith Yoo of Truist. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 200:49:11Thank you. Questions back in cement. To your point, tremendous pricing, it's the best pricing increase I've seen during this earnings season from cement. Now that Midlothian is back to sold out, is there going to be further increases this calendar year or is it something we'll have to contemplate for next year? No, look, we've certainly told the market that we are looking to have another dialogue in September. Speaker 200:49:34Obviously, it's not yet September. So we'll have to see how that goes, Keith. But again, there are a lot of different cement markets across the United States and Dallas is a really good cement market. And obviously Dallas had a strange market in Q2 simply because it was wet. But when Martin Marietta was buying TXI back in 2014 2015, I remember very clearly what I said to our Board of Directors at the time and that was I felt like Dallas Fort Worth might well be the single most attractive heavyside building materials market in the United States for the next 25 years. Speaker 200:50:12It has not disappointed. So, have we told our customers that we're going to have a dialogue in September? Yes. Am I ready to tell you what that's going to look like? The answer is no. Speaker 200:50:22But in any event, to your point, as I've watched public data come out, I concur with your conclusion, I haven't seen a market that has reacted more attractively than DFW has on pricing on a percentage basis. Speaker 1100:50:38Okay. Thank you. Speaker 200:50:40Thank you, Keith. Operator00:50:43Your next question comes from the line of Adam Thalhimer of Thompson Davis. Please ask your question. Speaker 300:50:52Good morning, guys. Hi, Adam. Share repurchases, that was a really heavy pace in the first half of the year. Curious how we should read that and what the outlook is? Yes. Speaker 300:51:02Well, simply, there's a couple of things that go into that. One is we were well below our target leverage ratio, and we had entered the year with or the quarter with over $2,000,000,000 in cash on the balance sheet. So that was part of it. But of course we thought the stock price was an attractive level as well. We thought it was undervalued. Speaker 300:51:21So that's really it's as simple as that. We're pretty opportunistic about our stock buyback, try to avoid a lazy balance sheet at the same time and those things just coalesce this quarter. Speaker 900:51:32Thanks, Tim. Speaker 200:51:33Thank you, Adam. Operator00:51:36Your next question comes from the line of Phil Ng of Jefferies. Please ask your question. Speaker 1200:51:44Hey, good morning. This is actually Colin on for Phil. Thank you for taking the I just wanted to ask about the aggregates volume guide. What is baked into the aggregates 1% to 4% decline from an organic perspective? And how are you thinking about those organic trends in the back half of the year here just given the wet start to the Q3 and maybe some of the softer trends that you're seeing in the warehouse, office and resi markets that you called out? Speaker 200:52:09Yes. Thanks, Collin. Thanks for the question. We try at this point now that those operations are really fully integrated. I wanted to break some out for the quarter because we were going through the integration process. Speaker 200:52:18But now that they're fully integrated, we just think about it candidly at this point as all organic going forward. I mean, clearly, I gave some, I thought, helpful color relative to end uses and what we thought the shifts are going to be relative to up, down, sideways, etcetera. But again, if we're looking second half of the year on infrastructure, we think it's going to be a busy second half of the year. At the second half of the year on infrastructure, we think it's going to be a busy second half of the year. At the same time, the biggest things that we're trying to get our heads around is what we're navigating right now And what will be the fallout from, as I said, wet July and what has so far been a wet August with a hurricane making its way literally from somewhere between Myrtle Beach and Charleston right now eventually up through the Greensboro High Point area. Speaker 200:53:08So those are more of the swing factors in the near term. And in the longer term this year, to the extent there can be longer term this year, it's really going to be more driven by when winter sets in and what the effects of that may be in certain markets. Look, I can remember years that we were doing asphalt and paving in Colorado in December. That doesn't happen very often, but it does happen. And those will be your swing factors really as we think about volumes, but more granularly as we think about infrastructure. Speaker 1200:53:42Great. That's helpful. And just one follow-up question. I guess, if we see some more accommodating monetary policy here in the back later this year, how quickly do you think that starts to show up in your shipments? Speaker 200:53:53I think it starts to show up reasonably early in 2025 because I do think in portions of private, particularly in homebuilding, etcetera, you've got to pent up demand. And it's interesting as we have people looking to move to Raleigh, one of the issues that they chronically run into and by the way, I'm using Raleigh as an example, but we could go across our footprint and say the same thing. The inventory is just really very low. And frankly, from our perspective, that's a pretty high class problem, Collin. Is it tougher people moving to the area because they can't find the home that they want? Speaker 200:54:28Yes. Does it mean, however, that once you have that more accommodating policy that you're going to see homebuilders moving, we think, with alacrity to fill what's a needed hole right now. We think that's the case. And that tends to be particularly if they've made the investment in land, which in many instances they have, that they can move relatively quickly. And keep in mind, a portion of what we're going to caption as residential will be those streets, it will be that curb and gutter, it will be the sidewalks, it will be the utilities until those subdivisions are turned over to the local municipality for maintenance. Speaker 200:55:05So will we see it on the resi side? I think so. Does that mean that you're going to see light non res come behind it in that more abbreviated period? I think so. And all that underlies what we think will be a continuing attractive infrastructure setting. Speaker 200:55:19So again, I hope that's helpful. Speaker 1200:55:22It is. Thank you for the color. Speaker 200:55:24You bet, Collyn. Operator00:55:27Your next question comes from the line of David Makarigore of Longbow Research. Please ask your question. Speaker 1300:55:35Hey, good morning. This is Joe Nolan on for David. You touched on cost briefly, but I was just hoping you could provide an updated cost outlook for the year and discuss some of the moving parts within that. And you also mentioned you're focused on controlling costs. I guess I was just wondering what are some of the areas that you can focus on with cost cutting measures in a softer market? Speaker 200:55:58So happy to. Jim, you want to go ahead and take the first and I'll come back on where we'll focus. Speaker 300:56:01Yes. So the full year guide on COGS per ton, it's well, second half rather, to be more precise, is up 7% second half of this year versus second half last year. It's reflective of, again, general inflation slowly coming down. There's a little bit of under absorption in that as well as the volumes come down versus our old view. And Speaker 1300:56:29the repairs Speaker 300:56:30and maintenance costs have remained elevated. We've seen some improvement as volumes come down on contract services, the outsourced services have been reduced lower over time. And of course, we do have a bit of diesel tailwind built in. Speaker 200:56:45So that's helpful too. I think Jim really hit very, very nicely, A, what the percentages look like B, what the emphasis is going to be. Obviously, we're going to be focused on maintenance and repairs because we've seen those up disproportionately, but we're also seeing general inflation come down. We are seeing some nice tailwinds coming from portions of energy. It's been a bit of a bifurcated situation though because we've seen diesel clearly better. Speaker 200:57:11We've seen electric modestly up. But again, managing our hours, managing our overtime, keeping our people safe will be areas that we will have a unique focus as we always do in the second half of the year. But I think you will see a better trend on repairs in particular. Speaker 1300:57:31Great. Thanks for taking my question. Speaker 200:57:33You bet. Good to talk to you, Jeff. Operator00:57:38Your next question comes from the line of Tyler Brown of Raymond James. Please ask your question. Speaker 1100:57:45Hey, good morning. Hey, Tyler. Hey, you talked a little bit about this earlier. But if I'm not mistaken, in conjunction with Bluewater, there was a notice of a July 15 mid year. I believe you had already communicated mid years out west early in the year. Speaker 1100:58:01So I'm just curious when you look at the portfolio, just how close are prices out west in those recently acquired operations to being harmonized to your heritage markets because I assume your heritage markets are also price increasing. So do you feel like there's still some catch up work there? And why wouldn't this be a sizable tailwind to pricing over the next few years just as you harmonize that whole portfolio? Speaker 200:58:26So Tyler, thank you for the question. So I would say 2 things. 1, we are getting closer. We are getting ever closer to Harmony in the Western U. S. Speaker 200:58:34So pretty soon you can start humming that music. I think that's going to be there. But here's the other thought that I would have for you. I'm not sure we're looking for harmony in the West. I think the West ought to be a price leader, because as we look at the cost of doing business in California, as we look at barriers to entry in California, just a host of things. Speaker 200:58:55The West Coast businesses should never, in my view, have been businesses priced below a Martin Marietta heritage number. And I think there should be a premium associated with businesses in that geography because you've got at times some premium costs associated with that geography. Now to the rest of your question, should there be recovery in places like Tennessee and elsewhere as we continue to go through the synergy realization process of the Blue Water operations? The answer is yes, there should be. And as I indicated, I think in some of my earlier commentary, is over $4 a ton delta right now between the average in those locations and Heritage Mart Marietta. Speaker 200:59:38So to your point, should there be an extended period of goodness in that? The answer is yes, because obviously the Heritage footprint or price profile will continue to go up as we continue to move up at the Bluewater operations as well and get those closer to that Harmony point that we spoke of before. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me as I look at our portfolio that North Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee would or should look materially different. And that's where we're endeavoring to take the business. Speaker 1101:00:12Yes. Excellent. Okay. Thank you. Speaker 201:00:14Thank you, Tyler. Operator01:00:17Your next question comes from the line of Michael Dudas of Vertical Research. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 1401:00:26Good morning, gentlemen and Jacqueline. Speaker 201:00:29Good morning. Speaker 1401:00:34Did notice in the presentation that Magnesia outlook is up for 2024 relative to the expectations. So maybe spend a little bit on a minute on that business and is there any reads or indications on general economic or this activity that can be helpful to thinking about how that business flows over the next several quarters? Speaker 201:00:56No, happy to. And it's really a tale of 2 different businesses there. So if we're looking just at revenues, as Jim said in his comments, they were relatively flat. Now as we look at that, chemicals up around 7%, lime though up 24%. And what we're seeing is pricing gains are more than offsetting lower chemical shipments. Speaker 201:01:17So chemical markets around the world and keep in mind, this is not just a regional business. This is a business that we cover the U. S. And we have double digit international business there as well. So we obviously saw volumes down, We saw pricing up. Speaker 201:01:32So you're seeing a lot of the same dynamics in the Magnesia Specialties business that we're seeing overall in the aggregates business as well. Part of what I'm pleased with is steel utilization levels are remaining just above the 70% historical average. That's not a terribly high number. And what our team has been able to do there is several fold. 1, control costs really well. Speaker 201:01:58Number 2, they're going about their commercial strategy in a fundamentally different way. That's been a business that historically has had longer term contracts and they've been in a position to revisit those contracts, reset them and make sure that again same circumstances aggregates. We've got long lived reserves at our facility in Woodville, Ohio. We have long lived brine reserves in Manistee, Michigan. At the same time, we need to be getting good value for those. Speaker 201:02:29And Chris Zamborski and his team have managed both sides of that business, controlling cost well and controlling pricing really well. And the EBITDA numbers that we're seeing in that business based on the volume in that business, frankly, it looks fundamentally different today than it would have 2 or 3 years ago under the same economic circumstances. So I'm very pleased with that business. The other thing that I'll say too, it wasn't part of your question, but I think it underscores the efficiency of the business. Their safety numbers have also gotten notably better you just see that business going in a direction that we're very pleased with in what's probably one of the tougher economies that any sector of our business is dealing with and they're likely to come in with a record EBITDA year this year. Speaker 201:03:20And that's the type of performance in this setting that makes us really excited about what Martin Marietta is going to look like in 2025, 2026, 2027, etcetera. Speaker 1401:03:30Excellent. Appreciate that, Ward. Thank Speaker 201:03:32you. You bet. Operator01:03:37Your next question comes from the line of Timna Tanners of Wolfe Research. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 1501:03:46Hey, good morning. One remaining one from us, if I could. Speaker 201:03:49Good morning, Summer. Speaker 1501:03:50Good morning. So I wanted to touch on the comments you had earlier about interest rates and I want to ask something similar but about the election because we are hearing that there's some pause and activity around the election and so curious about that, but also if you could dive into maybe any risk to some of the IRA related projects, especially as they relate to EV demand and given the potential outcome of the election? Thanks. Speaker 201:04:13So, Timna, thank you so much. What we're not seeing I don't think we're seeing real slowdown on public relative to the election. So I think that just chugs along. I think that can have an effect on private and I think that's probably some of what we've seen in the first half of this year. So I think that's probably just more of same. Speaker 201:04:32Relative to public and what that could look like on IIJA reauthorization or the Inflation Reduction Act or otherwise, I would say several things. 1, I think we're relatively agnostic. And here's why, Timna. Look, I think if you have a Democratic administration that's in power this next time, my guess is IIJA looks pretty similar on a reauthorization basis and then you continue to see things like the Inflation Reduction Act. I think if you have a Republican administration, honestly, you probably have a more amped up infrastructure law and probably less IRA. Speaker 201:05:15And again, from our perspective, they're probably almost awash. And again, if we're looking at where the big investments are going to be made in highways, bridges, roads and streets, it's going to follow where people are. It's going to be driven by what's happening with DOT budgets and it's going to be happening driven by what happens at the ballot box where most of these places that are seeing big population trends continue to pass initiatives at well over 80% rates of passage and we think that's going to endure. Frankly, if we've looked at the last several elections and you look at what's passed, almost half of it tends to be in Texas. And again, it goes back to building that marketplace that we have in Dallas Fort Worth and San Antonio and in Houston. Speaker 201:06:01And again, relative to what we see going on in energy and otherwise, I think that can move around a little bit depending on whether we have regime change. But if you build your businesses the way that we have on major commerce corridors, that's where the activity is going to be, whether it's factories, whether it's industrial, whether it's energy or otherwise. And that's why the positions we have along the I-eighty five corridor, the I-ninety five corridor, the I-twenty five corridor, the I-thirty five corridor and the I-five corridor are so important to us. And keep in mind, Timna, we're the largest shipper of crushed stone on the railroads for a reason. We're the largest shipper of stone on BN UP, number 1 on CSX, number 2 on Norfolk Southern and now number 1 on the Canadians after they bought the Kansas City Southern. Speaker 201:06:52And to the extent that this industrial build out continues on either commerce by truck or commerce by rail, we're going to be well suited by that. And I think that's why from an election perspective, we're relatively agnostic and think we're going to be good either way and we love that durability. Speaker 1501:07:12Okay. Appreciate the thoughts. Thank you. Speaker 201:07:14Thank you, Timna. Operator01:07:19We do not have any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Ward Nye. Speaker 201:07:26Thank you all for joining today's earnings conference call. Martin Marietta has built a durable and resilient business poised to continue outperforming through dynamic macroeconomic cycles. Our compelling underlying fundamentals, dedicated teams, well defined strategic plan, carefully curated coast to coast footprint in the country's fastest growing markets and unparalleled attractive growth opportunities reinforce our confidence in Martin Marietta's ability to continue delivering sustainable growth and superior shareholder value now and into the future. We look forward to sharing our Q3 2024 results with you in the fall. As always, we're available for any follow-up questions. Speaker 201:08:05Thank you for your time and continued support of Martin Marietta. 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Email Address About Martin Marietta MaterialsMartin Marietta Materials (NYSE:MLM), a natural resource-based building materials company, supplies aggregates and heavy-side building materials to the construction industry in the United States and internationally. It offers crushed stone, sand, and gravel products; ready mixed concrete and asphalt; paving products and services; and Portland and specialty cement for use in the infrastructure projects, and nonresidential and residential construction markets, as well as in the railroad, agricultural, utility, and environmental industries. The company also produces magnesia-based chemicals products; dolomitic lime primarily to customers for steel production and soil stabilization; and cement treated materials. Its chemical products are used in flame retardants, wastewater treatment, pulp and paper production, and other environmental applications. 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There are 16 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Welcome to Martin Marietta's Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants are now in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the company's prepared remarks. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the company's website. I will now turn the call over to your host, Ms. Operator00:00:21Jacqueline Rucker, Martin Murrieta's Director of Investor Relations. Jacqueline, you may begin. Speaker 100:00:31Good morning. It's my pleasure to welcome you to Martin Marietta's Q2 2024 Earnings Call. With me today are Ward Nye, Chair and Chief Executive Officer and Jim Nickolas, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today's discussion may include forward looking statements as defined by United States securities laws in connection with future events, future operating results or financial performance. Like other businesses, Martin Marietta is subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Speaker 100:01:07We undertake no obligation, except as legally required, to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements, whether resulting from new information, future developments or otherwise. Please refer to the legal disclaimers contained in today's earnings release and other public filings, which are available both our own and the Securities Exchange Commission's websites. We have made available during this webcast and on the Investors section of our website supplemental information that summarizes our financial results and trends. As a reminder, all financial and operating results discussed today are for continuing operations. In addition, non GAAP measures are defined and reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measure in the appendix to the supplemental information as well as our filings with the SEC and are also available on our website. Speaker 100:02:05Gord Nye will begin today's earnings call with a discussion of our 2nd quarter operating performance and our Bluewater Industries acquisition, as well as our outlook for the remainder of 2024 and current market trends. Jim Nickolas will then review our financial results and capital allocation. After which, Ward will provide closing comments. A question and answer session will follow. Please limit your Q and A participation to one question. Speaker 100:02:36I will now turn the call over to Ward. Speaker 200:02:39Thank you, Jacqueline, and thank you all for joining this teleconference. As indicated in today's earnings release, several dynamics impacted our Q2 financial results and particularly product shipments. The most notable driver was an historic 119% increase in precipitation in Dallas Fort Worth, our company's single largest and most profitable metropolitan marketplace as well as disproportionate rain and flooding in parts of the Midwest. Secondarily, the lag effect of restrictive monetary policy is pressuring interest rate sensitive private construction demand more than previously anticipated. And while our value over volume philosophy also contributed modestly to the shipment decline, the benefits of our commercial strategy are clearly evidenced by the Q2's strong unit profitability growth and adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. Speaker 200:03:30Moving forward, our team remains focused on what we can control and view the demand impacts from weather and high interest rates as temporary. That said, we expect slower shipment trends to persist in the year's second half. As a result, we revised our full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA guidance to $2,200,000,000 at the midpoint. Our 2nd quarter shipments were below our initial expectations, there were notable highlights worthy of mentioned as foundational for Martin Marietta's long term success. Starting first with safety. Speaker 200:04:06I'm proud to report that we concluded the first half of twenty twenty four with the best safety instant rates in our company's history inclusive of our newly acquired businesses. Operationally, we expanded our adjusted EBITDA margin and achieved record second quarter organic and total aggregates gross profit despite significant weather headwinds. Importantly, aggregates pricing fundamentals remain attractive with aggregates average selling price increasing 11.6% or 12% on an organic mix adjusted basis. We expect this commercial momentum and related margin expansion to continue following realization of our previously announced July pricing actions. These accomplishments underscore the resiliency of our aggregates led business reinforced by our team's fidelity to maintaining a safe workplace and our unrelenting commitment to both commercial and operational excellence. Speaker 200:05:05From a portfolio optimization standpoint, on April 5, we completed the acquisition of 20 aggregates operations from Bluewater Industries and in so doing, efficiently redeploy the cash proceeds from the South Texas cement and concrete divestiture. These high quality pure play aggregates operations from Bluewater strategically complement our existing footprint in the Southeastern United States and position us in attractive new markets including Tennessee and South Florida for future growth. I'm pleased to report that the integration of both the Bluewater and Albert Fry and Sons acquisitions is complete. The combined financial performance has exceeded management's initial expectations and the synergy realization will be increasingly compelling. Moving forward, the M and A pipeline remains active and largely focused on pure play aggregates businesses and attractive SOAR identified geographies. Speaker 200:06:02Shifting now to end market trends, our single most aggregates intensive end use is infrastructure, which continues to benefit from increased funding and investment levels. While highway and street spending is expected to remain well above historic levels, leading indicators are predictably starting to lap more robust comparable periods. This is evidenced in the value of state and local government highway, bridge and tunnel contract awards for the 12 month period ending June 30, 2024, which declined modestly below 2023 levels to $114,000,000,000 Funding certainty at the federal level through the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act or IIJA together with record state DOT budgets and constituent actions support a healthy pricing environment for construction materials in 2025 and beyond. With the 2024 election process well underway, it's important to note rebuilding and enhancing our nation's infrastructure and manufacturing capabilities remain bipartisan, national strategic priorities as revealed by the high passage rates on local infrastructure ballot initiatives and 3 key legislative actions, the IIJA, the Inflation Reduction Act and the CHIPS Act. Moving now to heavy non residential construction, reshoring activity for large manufacturing and energy projects continues to drive product demand. Speaker 200:07:29Aside from warehouse construction, which is contracting from its post COVID peak, starts on a square footage basis remain well above what were healthy 2019 levels. While not wholly offsetting, construction spending for domestic manufacturing continues to trend positively with the June 2024 ceasing adjusted annual rate of spending at $236,000,000,000 a 19% increase from the June 2023 value of $198,000,000,000 Importantly, the breadth of restoring projects is expanding from automotive batteries and semiconductors to pharmaceuticals. For example, Novo Nordisk is investing $4,000,000,000 to build a 1,400,000 square foot manufacturing facility near Raleigh, North Carolina, for which we're well positioned to supply from our nearby quarries. In addition, while artificial intelligence is in its early stages, Martin Marietta is geographically well positioned to capitalize on the related data center and infrastructure build out led by Big Tech, including Amazon, who's announced plans to invest more than $100,000,000,000 over the next decade on data centers alone. Relative to light non residential and residential activity, restrictive monetary policy continues to impact these interest rate sensitive end markets. Speaker 200:08:50The lock in effect of high mortgage rates and low inventory are only serving to exacerbate the well chronicled housing affordability and availability issues in many of our company's key metropolitan areas. That said, recent inflation and employment data should provide the foundation for accommodative Federal Reserve policy actions later this year and into 2025. I encourage you to read more on this as discussed in the CEO commentary and market perspective released earlier today. Beyond 2024, we expect the generational highway and streets investments as the nascent reshoring and artificial intelligence infrastructure build out are very much expected to provide an extended multiyear construction cycle in these aggregates intensive end markets. Equally, when the affordability headwinds recede, we fully expect an accelerated housing construction recovery, specifically in single family, which will be required to address the structural deficit of homes in many of Martin Marietta's key markets. Speaker 200:09:54Importantly, as history informs us, growth in single family construction bodes well for light non residential activity, which typically follows with a lag. But in this instance, a lag which we believe will be more abbreviated than previous cycles. I'll now turn the call over to Jim to discuss our Q2 financial results. Jim? Speaker 300:10:14Thank you, Ward, and good morning, everyone. As Ward mentioned and shown in today's release, we revised our full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA guidance to $2,200,000,000 at the midpoint, reflecting our first half results and revised second half shipments expectations. In the Q2, the Building Materials business generated revenues of $1,700,000,000 a decrease of 3% and gross profit of $501,000,000 a decrease of 7%. The decline in both metrics is attributable to the divestiture of our South Texas cement and related concrete businesses as well as shipment declines experienced in the quarter most notably due to wet weather partially offset by contributions of the Albert, Fry and Sons and Bluewater acquisitions. The net positive impact of acquisitions and divestitures in the Q2 was $7,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 300:11:12Our aggregates product line established 2nd quarter records for revenues and gross profit as contributions from acquired operations and strong pricing more than offset lower shipments. Aggregates gross profit per ton improved 9% to a 2nd quarter record of $7.41 That number is inclusive of the $20,000,000 or $0.37 per ton non recurring, non cash purchase accounting impact of the fair market value write up of inventory related to the Bluewater acquisition, which was fully recognized in the 2nd quarter. Excluding this purchase accounting impact gross profit per ton increased 14%. These impressive results reveal and affirm how our disciplined commercial strategy and flexible cost structure yields higher profits despite lower volumes. Cement and Concrete revenues decreased 37 percent to $261,000,000 and gross profit decreased 44% to $72,000,000 again driven primarily by the divestiture of our South Texas cement plant and its related concrete operations. Speaker 300:12:19And secondarily, by significant wet April, May and early June weather in Dallas Fort Worth. Notably, our strategic Midlothian cement plants daily shipping rates returned to near sold out levels exiting the quarter. Remember too, we expect our new finished mill to be operational in the 3rd quarter, which has the capacity to add approximately 450,000 tons of incremental high margin annual production capacity in the attractive North Texas market. Our asphalt and paving revenues and gross profit increased modestly to $245,000,000 $37,000,000 respectively, both 2nd quarter records, in large measure due to pricing improvements and energy cost tailwinds. Magnesia Specialties revenues of $81,000,000 were in line with the prior year quarter, while gross profit decreased 2% to $27,000,000 Strong pricing, improved maintenance cost management and energy cost tailwinds helped counterbalance lower chemical and lime shipments. Speaker 300:13:24SOAR has long provided the framework we use to grow our business and deploy capital for long term success. During the first half of this year, we deployed over $2,500,000,000 on pure play aggregates acquisitions, invested $339,000,000 of capital into our business and returned $542,000,000 to shareholders through dividend payments and share repurchases. In the 2nd quarter alone, we repurchased 530,000 shares at an average price of $5.66 per share. Since our repurchase authorization announced in February 2015, we have returned a total of $3,200,000,000 to shareholders through both dividends and share repurchases. Our net debt to EBITDA ratio was 2 times as of June 30, at the low end of our targeted range of 2 to 2.5 times, providing balance sheet strength and ample flexibility to actively pursue our M and A pipeline, reinvest in our business and extend our long track record of returning capital to Martinrea to shareholders, all while preserving financial flexibility and our investment grade credit rating profile. Speaker 300:14:34With that, I will turn the call back over to Ward. Speaker 200:14:36Thanks, Jim. In 2024, Martin Marietta is proudly celebrating our 30th year as a publicly traded company. Our 3 decades of success has been the result of an unwavering commitment to safety and the disciplined execution of our proven strategy. As we plan for the next 30 years, we're confident Martin Marietta is well positioned to continue leading our industry's evolution, while at the same time navigating through inevitable macroeconomic cycles and driving sustainable attractive growth. We remain committed to building and maintaining the safest, best performing and most durable aggregates led business and look forward to delivering superior shareholder value for our stakeholders for years decades to come. Speaker 200:15:19If the operator will now provide the required instructions, we'll turn our attention to addressing your questions. Operator00:15:30Thank Your first question comes from the line of Kathryn Thompson from Thompson Research Group. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 400:16:09Hi. Thank you for taking my questions today. The first is focused on Q2 and just better understanding the impact of how much of it was market, maybe more color on the volume impacting the quarter? And then part and parcel with that, how should we think about the balance of Q3 and Q4 in terms of how profitability should flow through given some of the obvious weather comps that you and your peers have been facing? Thank you. Speaker 200:16:44Good morning, Catherine. Thank you for the question. So look, weather was a big deal in Q2. There's no doubt about it. So I said in the prepared remarks that it was 119% wetter in DFW this year than it was last year. Speaker 200:16:58And the fact is if you look at what happened in North Texas all by itself, but then you couple that with what happened in the Central Division. And what I'll suppose is most people don't think about the Central Division as being impactful to us as it is. Really, if we're looking at Dallas itself and the Central Division together, those two areas of business typically represent nearly 40% of our Q2 shipments. So if we're looking at significant rain in Dallas and significant rain in flooding in the Midwest, that was really a serious body blow to the business. And what I liked about that is it took that blow and came in with record aggregates profitability, record unit profitability and did all of that taking on the $20,000,000 of inventory fair markup that we've totally absorbed in Q2. Speaker 200:17:52So seeing what happened in Dallas was important, understanding what happened in the Midwest was important. But I was also taken with the resiliency of our cement business in North Texas. Again, we've long defined what equals strategic cement for us. And clearly, what we have in that market is just that. I mean, we saw organic shipment volumes down about 18% and again that was all driven by Reign, but pricing up nearly 10% and with very, very good performance. Speaker 200:18:23And as Jim indicated in his comments, we were seeing that marketplace turn to near sold out levels as soon as the rain abated. So those were issues. I think 50% at least of what we saw in the quarter was attributable to rain. Do I think a portion of it was attributable to the economy? Yes, probably 25% of it. Speaker 200:18:46So what am I seeing there? It's really what we indicated. Private construction, because of what's happening with interest rates, are seeing degrees of modest pullback. But the important thing to remember there, Catherine, is we don't see markets that are overbuilt today in Martin Marietta marketplaces. So we feel like that's going to be fleeting. Speaker 200:19:07But equally, value over volume cost us some tonnage during the quarter. But the fact is, we're perfectly okay with that. Again, we monitor that. We're going to be thoughtful around it. But again, we're seeing continued expanded adjusted EBITDA margins in what we're doing. Speaker 200:19:25We feel like the breakdown we've had between weather at 50%, market at 25% and value over volume at about 25% makes sense. But the other part of your question went to the cadence of how we think about the quarters. Let me turn that over to Jim to talk you through that a bit because that is going to change modestly. Speaker 300:19:43Yes. Last year, Catherine, second half of the year, about 60% of consolidated EBITDA came through in Q3 and 40% came through in Q4. Because of what we're seeing this year with weather, etcetera, in July and even August, the split is probably closer to 55% Q3, 45% in Q4. So a little bit more Q4 weighted this year than normal. Speaker 400:20:12Okay, perfect. And just one follow-up, if I may, just on the outlook, when you look at backlogs or jobs in the Q. What are you seeing in terms of project types? And how are how is pricing on these type of projects, which obviously play into margins? Thanks very much. Speaker 200:20:38Sure. Thank you, Catherine. We'll look if we're looking at customer backlogs, they're up sequentially, so they continue to build. Number 1, I think that's important. Number 2, if we're looking at the nature of the projects, look, infrastructure is going to be a good end use for several years and we see that continuing. Speaker 200:20:55If we're looking at non res, we're seeing degrees of shifts there and by the way, that's not a surprise to us. So are we seeing more factories? The answer is yes. Are we seeing good pricing that goes with that? The answer is yes. Speaker 200:21:07Are we seeing good steady work and growing work, frankly, relative to energy? The answer is yes. Are we seeing growing work relative to data centers? For all the reasons that I indicated in the prepared remarks and in the commentary that we published today, that continues to grow. Obviously, warehousing is not, that's not a surprise to anyone. Speaker 200:21:28And what we're seeing is you almost have 2 lanes of travel. You have data centers in one lane and they're going in a positive direction and warehousing is going in the other and you're seeing those percentages almost pass each other on a precise precision or percentage basis today. So that's the type of work that we're seeing. The other thing that we're beginning to see and this is more in Georgia, it's in North Carolina, it's in South Carolina. We're seeing green shoots and degrees of single family housing right now. Speaker 200:22:01And again, that's not a big surprise simply because of the population dynamics. And again, relative to housing, we're such a small portion of the overall housing that traditionally in single family housing, back to the essence of your question that tends to be very attractive priced materials, Catherine. So I hope that's helpful. Operator00:22:21Yes. Thanks so Speaker 400:22:22much and best of luck. Speaker 200:22:24Thank you. Operator00:22:31Your next question comes from the line of Stanley Elliott of Stifel. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 500:22:38Hey, good morning, everyone. Nice work despite this difficult environment. Ward, could you maybe walk us through kind of the revised guide, some of the puts and takes and see maybe what will get us to the high end versus the low end, just as we're sitting here today kind of halfway through the Speaker 200:22:58year? You bet. Happy to. And Stanley, thank you for your comments. We appreciate it. Speaker 200:23:02I'm with you. I think that was actually very good performance given what our team managed through. So several things. Look, let's start with pricing. So as you've seen, we've reaffirmed our pricing guide of 11% to 13% up and that includes the previously announced mid years for California for the fry business for Bluewater locations as well as a targeted product and market specific mid years in other geographies. Speaker 200:23:25And by the way, that's pretty typical for us. The one thing that I think is going to be important this year relative to the mid years, so much volume that had already been bid at the January 1 pricing is still yet to go because of the deferral that we've seen. So typically in a year, I've always told you historically, look, you could probably see about a quarter of the mid years really show up in any given year in which they're put in. I think the mid years are going to be notably more impactful in 'twenty five. In other words, when we come back to you in January and talk about our guide for next year, I think you're going to see more mid years affecting that this year than not. Speaker 200:24:07So that's how we're thinking about the ASP in the guide. Relative to volumes, clearly that reflects an impacted first half result and early weather here in the second half of the year. Look, July was wet and we're sitting here today as tropical storm Debbie is going through the Carolinas. So we're living that. And so we're trying to take our experience with those events and really build that into the volume guide for the second half of the year. Speaker 200:24:35So we feel confident that we've hit that with as much clarity as we can given these circumstances. Look, relative to what will be expected as lower shipment levels, our teams are going to be focused as you would imagine us to very much on cost control and making sure we're flexing our costs with demand. So we're very focused on that. The other thing that I think you'll see is given the inventory builds that we had with wet weather where we're producing but not selling, there's going to be a little bit of inventory drawdown and that's going to impact us a bit in half 2 and it can provide a modest headwind to EBITDA. But again, we've taken that into account in what we put out there for you. Speaker 200:25:21One thing to keep in mind too is we're looking at the EBITDA guide, and I think this is something that's easy to forget. We grew EBITDA in 2023 by 33%. I mean that's a really big number and it gives you a difficult year compare, but at the same time we're seeing EBITDA margin grow. And even at the guide, we're looking at a 2 year CAGR of high teens, I mean, getting close 17%, getting close to 20%. So again, numbers that we're very proud of, numbers that we feel good about as we're going into the second half of the year. Speaker 200:25:55And again, a foundation, particularly relative to pricing that we think puts us in a very attractive place as we start increasingly thinking about 2025, Stanley. Speaker 500:26:06Perfect, Ward. Thanks so much for the color and best of luck in the back half of the year. Speaker 200:26:09Thanks, Stanley. Operator00:26:14Your next question comes from the line of Trey Greer of Stephens. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 600:26:22Hey, good morning, everyone. And I'll echo Stanley's comment about the good work in a tough environment. Speaker 200:26:31Thank you, Trey, very much. Speaker 600:26:34So I guess I've got really the main one I wanted to talk about was kind of you've seen some slowing or maybe a little bit of deceleration you mentioned on the kind of on the activity front in addition to weather, there was some of that. And you've broken out in the past, I think as recently as the last call, infrastructure and kind of your expectation for the year, I think what's kind of mid to high single improvement. Res was, I think, down low singles and non res low singles to mid single down. If we kind of look at your new view of the world and in light of kind of what we've seen with some of the activity out there, is there any way you can kind of help us kind of bridge back these kind of expectations for these end markets relative to kind of what you were looking for? Speaker 200:27:28Sure. Happy to, Trey. And that's a great question. So if we think through it, I'll actually work from the bottom up. So we were previously in res. Speaker 200:27:37We were saying, look, res was going to be down low single digits to mid single digits. So now as we see it, look, we think it's going to be at mid. So we've gone to the lower end of the original guide, if you see what I mean relative to res. If we're looking at non res, we had previously said, look, that's going to be down mid single digits to high. So we've really taken the same view on that that we have relative to res. Speaker 200:28:00We said that's going to be down high single digits, not because we think heavy is not going to be good. I think heavy is going to be increasingly good. These are going to be big jobs. It's going to take a little bit of time. But really what we've done, we've looked at the public side of it. Speaker 200:28:16We've said we thought public would be up mid single digits to high single digits. We actually think that's now going to be modestly down and it's more of a timing issue than anything else, because part of what we're assuming is, let's assume we're going to have a relatively normal weather calendar year this year. And if we go to businesses like the Central Division, once we get toward late October, frankly, you're rolling the dice a little bit on whether you're going to have good business, there won't be frozen weather impacted in November December. So now we pulled back a bit on infrastructure. And again, that's not work, Trey, as you know that's going to go away. Speaker 200:28:57It's going to be work that's going to be pushed into 2025. And for a lot of reasons, we're perfectly okay with that. But relative to the guide and relative to the end uses, I hope that puts the specificity around it that will be helpful to you. Speaker 600:29:11Yes, absolutely. That was perfectly helpful. Just one last one, if I could sneak one in. I think you mentioned that the integration of Bluewater and Albert Fry and Sons are complete. And it sounds like they're performing at least as good as your expectations, if not better. Speaker 600:29:29If you can maybe go a little bit more, comments about kind of where you're seeing the outsized benefits or where they're exceeding expectations? And also just on the pipeline, I mean, you just completed 2 deals this year, one pretty big one. Do you think we should what's the pipeline look like? And do you think we should be looking for more kind of tuck in deals given that recent M and A activity you've been doing? Or could there still be the potential for some chunky deals out there for you guys? Speaker 200:29:58Great questions, Tricia. Thank you for all of that. So we'll start with both Bluewater and Alfre relative to integration. So you're right. I mean from our perspective, those integrations are done. Speaker 200:30:08They have been tucked in. They're pure bolt ons. Our integration process is extraordinarily efficient, and we've discussed that before. We typically integrate the back office systems and processes and onboard people literally over the course of a weekend. So our intention is typically to close on a Friday and do a lot of training over the course of the weekend, open Monday and have people going over our scales, getting Martin Marietta tickets and having them in our systems. Speaker 200:30:36And that's exactly what happened. So as we think about what's happening with those businesses now, operationally, they're performing really very well, number 1. Number 2, these are folks who know that they've got a forever home right now. I mean, we're an aggregates led business. They're delighted to be a part of Martin Marietta. Speaker 200:30:56Number 3, their safety numbers have been extraordinary. I mentioned in my opening commentary that from an incident rate perspective, this was the safest quarter that Martin Marietta has ever had. And to be able to say that after we've done the degree of acquisitions that we've done, in my view, is pretty extraordinary. Now if we think about what continued synergy realization is going to look like, several things. Number 1, we will continue to invest responsibly in these businesses in fixed plant, rolling stock, etcetera. Speaker 200:31:27And we think that will continue to make the businesses more efficient. But equally important, the pricing at those locations is actually notably below a Martin Marietta corporate average. By that, I mean, let's call it $4 plus a ton. So if I go back to the commentary that we had on targeted mid years and the fact that they're coming through the way that we would have expected on the acquisitions, That's going to give us continued near term upside on those businesses. We think that's likely to persist for a number of years. Speaker 200:31:59Operationally, they will continue to get better for a while. So we think there's going to be goodness that's going to be coming to us from Bluewater, from the Albert Fry and Sons and by the way from the continued acquisitions in California and Arizona for a while yet. Now that leads into the second part of your question that is what does the pipeline look like? And the pipeline continues to look attractive. The pipeline continues to be almost entirely pure aggregates businesses. Speaker 200:32:28And they tend to be a bit of a blend of what you said. Some of them have a little bit of chunkiness to them. A lot of them are nice tuck away transactions. We hope we'll have more for you on some of that as the year goes on. As you know, between what's gone in and what's gone out this year, we've done well over $4,000,000,000 worth of transactions. Speaker 200:32:47But if we're sitting at a net leverage of 2 times as of June 30, as you know, that gives us ample dry powder to continue doing what I think is really a core competency for Martin Marietta and that is doing M and A and doing it well. M and A is something that's in our DNA and we're very proud of that. So Trey, thank you for that second question. I hope that cleared some of those items up too. Speaker 600:33:11Yes, great color. Thanks Ward. Best of luck. Speaker 200:33:14Take care. Operator00:33:19Your next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 700:33:28Yes. Hi, good morning, everyone. Speaker 200:33:30Good morning, Jerry. Speaker 700:33:32What I wonder if I can just ask you conceptually right this year, you folks had excellent pricing based on the volumes that we're seeing from everyone across the board. You haven't had to seed market share. To get this level of pricing, we're seeing stubborn inflation across repair and maintenance and elsewhere. How does that impact how you're thinking about 'twenty five? Obviously, we can't count on a volume ramp back up. Speaker 700:33:59So I'm wondering based on what you're seeing and the receptivity of price increases and inflation, I guess, what are the prospects for potential double digit pricing year again in 2025 based on everything you've seen year to date? Speaker 200:34:16Obviously, we'll give you more of a definitive guide on that as we go into next year. But Jerry, as I think about the building blocks for what we have, I think infrastructure is going to stay very attractive. I think housing in our markets has more than found bottom. I think that's going to get attractive. I think heavy non res is and is going to stay attractive. Speaker 200:34:36As I indicated in the commentary, I think the lag we've typically seen between non res on the light side and res is going to be abbreviated. I think that sets us up for a really attractive 2025 and beyond relative to pricing. From my perspective, the pricing that you have seen in Martin Marietta for 30 years as a public company that I think you would look at and say historically has looked really good, frankly, is seeing a step change. And I think the step change is appropriate, but for a number of reasons. And among others is people now are starting to think about this business on what does replacement cost look like for these hugely valuable reserves. Speaker 200:35:13I mean if we look at the reserves we have today, 70 plus years at current extraction rates is a significant body of reserves. At the same time, I don't think that we should be punished for having the discipline and having the vision to make sure that we've got adequate reserves. So does that tell me and does that help inform you that we think pricing will continue to be at what I think will be new levels And probably in that zip code of what you're talking about, I think the answer is yes, it probably will. And again, we'll come back with more definitiveness on that in February, but I would not encourage you to think about it materially differently. Speaker 700:35:54Super. And can I ask, Jim, in terms of the midpoint of the aggregates gross profit and top line parameters, it looks like on a year over year basis, you're guiding to about 2 points of gross margin expansion back half 'twenty four versus back half 'twenty three, which is better than the first half? Is that right? And can you unpack the drivers behind that if that's the case? How much of that is the mid years in Tennessee and California etcetera that's driving the acceleration in the outlook? Speaker 300:36:27Yes. No, you're right. Those ballpark numbers are correct. The star of the show as always has been growing ASP. So that's flowing through in the second half of the year. Speaker 300:36:37That's the primary metric that's driving that improved margin, Jerry. Secondary impact is, as I mentioned in prior calls, inflation is abating, it's moderating as the year goes on. So the cost pressures are, by and large coming back down, not to where they were pre COVID, of course, but 5 to 6 percentage points on baseline cost inflation. So those two things are the main driver. Speaker 700:37:04Thank you. Speaker 200:37:06Thank you, Jerry. Operator00:37:09Your next question comes from the line of Anthony Pettinari of Citi. Please ask your question. Speaker 800:37:17Good morning. Speaker 700:37:18Hi, Anthony. Speaker 300:37:19Hey, Ward, could you talk Speaker 800:37:21a little bit more about maybe state funding environments as you think about next 12 months in fiscal 2025. I think there was some data that suggested general fund spending for the states could be down in fiscal 'twenty five after a number of years of very strong growth. Obviously, that's not one to one to DOT spending. But just wondering if you could kind of through the states and where you're maybe the most excited and seeing some growth versus which could be lighter kind of as you think about next 12 months? Speaker 200:37:52No, thank you for the question. I appreciate it very much. So let's just mark through March together. So look, we're looking at Texas DOT lettings for FY 2024 lettings forecast of 13.7%, that's up 17% from the year before. But equally, if we're looking to see where they are next year, again, they're looking to be up over that next year. Speaker 200:38:12If I'm looking at Colorado, they passed a $5,300,000,000 10 year infrastructure bill and that basically ensures consistent stream of DOT funding beginning in 2023 and that's going to go on for several years. And we expect even going into 'twenty 5 the Colorado DOT is going to have at least $3,700,000,000 available to spend and that's going to be a really attractive budget. If we're looking here in a backyard in North Carolina, we expect their budget to increase to $7,600,000,000 for FY 2025. Again, that's an increase over prior year. And part of what's notable there, keep in mind, North Carolina started looking at different ways to fund their infrastructure a few years ago and from 2025 thereafter, they're going to be using sales taxes at about 6% to fund infrastructure work here in North Carolina. Speaker 200:39:02That's going to make a nice difference. Equally, if we look at Georgia, their 25 budget of $4,200,000,000 that's a 7% increase over where it was in 2024. And this one's interesting to me, even if we look at Florida, Florida's budget, if you look at it topside looks like it's going down, but that's only because FY 2024 had about $2,100,000,000 of one time supplements that were in it. So if we're looking at a base budget in Florida of about $15,100,000,000 we're looking at what we think is a base in FY 2025 of about $15,500,000,000 The punch line is this, if we go and look at our top 10 states, Texas is up, Florida is up from a base budget perspective, North Carolina is up, Indiana is up, Georgia is up, Colorado is up, Arizona is up and Texas is up. So really there are 2 states that are down. Speaker 200:39:521 is Minnesota, it's going from 4.5 to about 4. And to put that in some context, Minnesota is going to have a DOT budget next year that's livening about where Georgia is. I don't think that's a bad place for Minnesota to be. And California is going to be modestly down. And I think that's simply in keeping with what we see more broadly in the California budgeting process. Speaker 200:40:14But again, if I look at these top 10 states, it looks awfully attractive to me. But equally, when I look at the highway contract awards over a period of time, like if we go back to, let's call it mid year 2022 on an LTM basis and look at where it is this year in June at an LTM basis, it's up 25% and that's the step change that we thought we would see on contract awards. And again, part of SOAR that Jim referenced in his comments dictated where we wanted to be and one of the places we wanted to be or places that had good long durable DOT budgets and had people moving those states so they would have the imperative to continue to invest. And as we look at how those state DOT budgets look today and how they're going to look more importantly to your question tomorrow, we have a lot of confidence about that and have a very attractive outlook as we contemplate it. So Anthony, I hope it's helpful. Speaker 800:41:15No, that's extremely helpful. I'll turn it over. Thank you. Speaker 200:41:19Thank you. Operator00:41:22Your next question comes from the line of Angel Castillo of Morgan Stanley. Please ask your question. Speaker 900:41:30Hi, good morning. Ward, thanks for taking that question. Just wanted to drill in a little bit more on the kind of 25% of the volume that decline that was maybe related to kind of price over volume strategy. Could you just talk about is there any sense for kind of what markets that may be occurring more and or some of the competitive dynamics that might be driving that versus kind of a greater or increasing kind of discipline toward price over volume? Speaker 200:41:57You know what it was interesting because I took that same deep dive that you're trying to do intellectually just to make sure that there wasn't some overriding trend or something that we needed to be concerned about or alarmed by, and it wasn't. I mean, as you recognize and we do too, markets in our world tend to be an MSA because the weight to price ratio that I spoke of in the CEO commentary, the material often doesn't travel very far. And what we see on occasion is somebody can be aggressive, somebody can be long on any given product. There can be just a whole host of things that can drive different degrees of behavior in different markets. So we're not seeing anything that's overwhelming in any one market that causes us any concern. Speaker 200:42:47Obviously, we've stated a preference for value over volume. We believe in that. We see it in the numbers. We believe that it's proving its efficacy and what we're seeing in the financial results. At the same time, we're always going to be thoughtful around are we pushing too hard on occasion and are we losing too much. Speaker 200:43:09And so it's a process we do go through. It's a dialogue that we do have here in this office. But more importantly, we have it with our division presence and VPGMs. So there's no one area that if I were you, I would look at and have any concern about. Obviously, I don't want to talk about specific markets per se. Speaker 200:43:30It was really more of a weather event than anything else, degrees of softening and then here or there on pricing. But, Andrew, that's the best way that I can guide you to think about it right now. Speaker 900:43:44That's very helpful. Thank you. And then maybe yes, of course. And maybe just a follow-up on the cement business. You talked about that returning kind of being close to full sold out in the quarter or I guess shut in the Q3. Speaker 900:43:58So just was hoping you could give us a little bit more color or remind us how we should kind of be thinking about the flow through of the expansion in terms of ramp up of volumes and how you kind of see the profitability of that business as we kind of normalize from these weather impacts? Speaker 200:44:14Sure. So I'll do a couple of things. One, I'll ask Jim to speak to the capital project that we have underway and he can give you a bit more on that and the 450,000 tons that will be added through that because we'll be thoughtful around the way that we do it. But obviously, if we're just looking at what happened relative to the weather in DFW, that was the driver, pure and simply. I mean that took organic shipments down about 18%. Speaker 200:44:37But again, pricing was up 9.5 percent. And part of what we saw in that business is we actually saw gross margins expand in that business. And that's one reason that we speak to what we've long called strategic cement. It's where we're an aggregates leader, where the market's naturally vertically integrated, where we have a downstream business and we do in Dallas that takes about 30% of what we're doing there. And its ability to be interdicted by waterborne imports is really quite minimal. Speaker 200:45:05And so if we look at what strategic cement for us is, it's Midlothian. If we look at how the pricing behaved, it behaved well. Despite the fact that organic shipments were down, we still expanded gross margins, which is why we want to invest capital in that market. And for that, let me turn to Jim and he can give you a sense of where we are in that process and how we think about volume. Speaker 300:45:29Yes. So that project, the Finish Mill 7 as we call it, will be completed this quarter. As you know, it's 450,000 tons per year annual production capacity. So give or take 110 ish 1,000 per quarter. We won't hit the market with that full speed on day 1. Speaker 300:45:49We'll be responsible about feathering in those volumes to ensure we don't disrupt the commercial strategy we've been following in that marketplace. Some more to come on when that comes out, but that will be helpful to us, a, in terms of volume, but also more importantly, operational flexibility, wait time for customers, storage facilities, our ability to react to different events is enhanced as a result of this project. So we're looking for this to improve margins going forward and of course volumes as those become available to us. Speaker 200:46:21Angel, the last part of your question was what we see happening in volumes here as quarter ended. And I think we indicated as weather got better in Dallas Fort Worth, we were back to near sold out conditions at Midlothian. So I think that puts a bow around Speaker 900:46:36it. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Operator00:46:42Your next question comes from the line of Garik Shmois of Loop Capital. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 1000:46:50Good morning. It's actually Zach Pacheco on for Gerrick this morning. Thanks for taking my question. Appreciate you guys walking through the outlook on state funding moving forward a couple of questions ago. Maybe just to dive into that real quickly. Speaker 1000:47:04We've been hearing others citing inflation kind of eating into those IIJA base dollars, therefore causing some delays. Just curious if you guys are seeing that at all or are the base dollars truly just flowing through nicely? Thanks. Speaker 200:47:19I think we'd be naive to assume that degrees of inflation haven't eaten into that. And so when we went back over time, I've said before, if whatever the volume that people thought would come out of IIJA, the year it was signed into law, have you seen some of that being eroded by inflation? Yes, I think so. But at the end of the day, very selfishly from a Martin Marietta perspective, would we trade the volume that we see for the pricing that we're seeing? The answer is yes. Speaker 200:47:51I think part of what's so important to keep in mind too is I don't think IIJA is a one hit wonder. In other words, I think we simply changed the floor in the way that the United States Congress and the government will continue to invest in infrastructure because keep in mind, we went a decade and a half with woefully underfunded infrastructure. So I think in many respects, yes, some degree of volume has been taken out simply because of inflation. At the same time, I believe when we see a reauthorization of this act, we're likely to see something at or above where this is. And again, it'll provide a nice extended period of time for the United States to invest in this much needed infrastructure. Speaker 200:48:35At the same time, it will allow us to make sure that we're getting the appropriate return for our very valuable materials that are in the ground and that we work hard to turn into a spec product. So that's the way that we think about it. There's nothing per se new in that, but I think it's important to be able to articulate that to the investing public because I think from our perspective it works. Speaker 1000:48:58No, that makes sense. Thanks. Speaker 900:49:00Thank you. Operator00:49:03Your next question comes from the line of Keith Yoo of Truist. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 200:49:11Thank you. Questions back in cement. To your point, tremendous pricing, it's the best pricing increase I've seen during this earnings season from cement. Now that Midlothian is back to sold out, is there going to be further increases this calendar year or is it something we'll have to contemplate for next year? No, look, we've certainly told the market that we are looking to have another dialogue in September. Speaker 200:49:34Obviously, it's not yet September. So we'll have to see how that goes, Keith. But again, there are a lot of different cement markets across the United States and Dallas is a really good cement market. And obviously Dallas had a strange market in Q2 simply because it was wet. But when Martin Marietta was buying TXI back in 2014 2015, I remember very clearly what I said to our Board of Directors at the time and that was I felt like Dallas Fort Worth might well be the single most attractive heavyside building materials market in the United States for the next 25 years. Speaker 200:50:12It has not disappointed. So, have we told our customers that we're going to have a dialogue in September? Yes. Am I ready to tell you what that's going to look like? The answer is no. Speaker 200:50:22But in any event, to your point, as I've watched public data come out, I concur with your conclusion, I haven't seen a market that has reacted more attractively than DFW has on pricing on a percentage basis. Speaker 1100:50:38Okay. Thank you. Speaker 200:50:40Thank you, Keith. Operator00:50:43Your next question comes from the line of Adam Thalhimer of Thompson Davis. Please ask your question. Speaker 300:50:52Good morning, guys. Hi, Adam. Share repurchases, that was a really heavy pace in the first half of the year. Curious how we should read that and what the outlook is? Yes. Speaker 300:51:02Well, simply, there's a couple of things that go into that. One is we were well below our target leverage ratio, and we had entered the year with or the quarter with over $2,000,000,000 in cash on the balance sheet. So that was part of it. But of course we thought the stock price was an attractive level as well. We thought it was undervalued. Speaker 300:51:21So that's really it's as simple as that. We're pretty opportunistic about our stock buyback, try to avoid a lazy balance sheet at the same time and those things just coalesce this quarter. Speaker 900:51:32Thanks, Tim. Speaker 200:51:33Thank you, Adam. Operator00:51:36Your next question comes from the line of Phil Ng of Jefferies. Please ask your question. Speaker 1200:51:44Hey, good morning. This is actually Colin on for Phil. Thank you for taking the I just wanted to ask about the aggregates volume guide. What is baked into the aggregates 1% to 4% decline from an organic perspective? And how are you thinking about those organic trends in the back half of the year here just given the wet start to the Q3 and maybe some of the softer trends that you're seeing in the warehouse, office and resi markets that you called out? Speaker 200:52:09Yes. Thanks, Collin. Thanks for the question. We try at this point now that those operations are really fully integrated. I wanted to break some out for the quarter because we were going through the integration process. Speaker 200:52:18But now that they're fully integrated, we just think about it candidly at this point as all organic going forward. I mean, clearly, I gave some, I thought, helpful color relative to end uses and what we thought the shifts are going to be relative to up, down, sideways, etcetera. But again, if we're looking second half of the year on infrastructure, we think it's going to be a busy second half of the year. At the second half of the year on infrastructure, we think it's going to be a busy second half of the year. At the same time, the biggest things that we're trying to get our heads around is what we're navigating right now And what will be the fallout from, as I said, wet July and what has so far been a wet August with a hurricane making its way literally from somewhere between Myrtle Beach and Charleston right now eventually up through the Greensboro High Point area. Speaker 200:53:08So those are more of the swing factors in the near term. And in the longer term this year, to the extent there can be longer term this year, it's really going to be more driven by when winter sets in and what the effects of that may be in certain markets. Look, I can remember years that we were doing asphalt and paving in Colorado in December. That doesn't happen very often, but it does happen. And those will be your swing factors really as we think about volumes, but more granularly as we think about infrastructure. Speaker 1200:53:42Great. That's helpful. And just one follow-up question. I guess, if we see some more accommodating monetary policy here in the back later this year, how quickly do you think that starts to show up in your shipments? Speaker 200:53:53I think it starts to show up reasonably early in 2025 because I do think in portions of private, particularly in homebuilding, etcetera, you've got to pent up demand. And it's interesting as we have people looking to move to Raleigh, one of the issues that they chronically run into and by the way, I'm using Raleigh as an example, but we could go across our footprint and say the same thing. The inventory is just really very low. And frankly, from our perspective, that's a pretty high class problem, Collin. Is it tougher people moving to the area because they can't find the home that they want? Speaker 200:54:28Yes. Does it mean, however, that once you have that more accommodating policy that you're going to see homebuilders moving, we think, with alacrity to fill what's a needed hole right now. We think that's the case. And that tends to be particularly if they've made the investment in land, which in many instances they have, that they can move relatively quickly. And keep in mind, a portion of what we're going to caption as residential will be those streets, it will be that curb and gutter, it will be the sidewalks, it will be the utilities until those subdivisions are turned over to the local municipality for maintenance. Speaker 200:55:05So will we see it on the resi side? I think so. Does that mean that you're going to see light non res come behind it in that more abbreviated period? I think so. And all that underlies what we think will be a continuing attractive infrastructure setting. Speaker 200:55:19So again, I hope that's helpful. Speaker 1200:55:22It is. Thank you for the color. Speaker 200:55:24You bet, Collyn. Operator00:55:27Your next question comes from the line of David Makarigore of Longbow Research. Please ask your question. Speaker 1300:55:35Hey, good morning. This is Joe Nolan on for David. You touched on cost briefly, but I was just hoping you could provide an updated cost outlook for the year and discuss some of the moving parts within that. And you also mentioned you're focused on controlling costs. I guess I was just wondering what are some of the areas that you can focus on with cost cutting measures in a softer market? Speaker 200:55:58So happy to. Jim, you want to go ahead and take the first and I'll come back on where we'll focus. Speaker 300:56:01Yes. So the full year guide on COGS per ton, it's well, second half rather, to be more precise, is up 7% second half of this year versus second half last year. It's reflective of, again, general inflation slowly coming down. There's a little bit of under absorption in that as well as the volumes come down versus our old view. And Speaker 1300:56:29the repairs Speaker 300:56:30and maintenance costs have remained elevated. We've seen some improvement as volumes come down on contract services, the outsourced services have been reduced lower over time. And of course, we do have a bit of diesel tailwind built in. Speaker 200:56:45So that's helpful too. I think Jim really hit very, very nicely, A, what the percentages look like B, what the emphasis is going to be. Obviously, we're going to be focused on maintenance and repairs because we've seen those up disproportionately, but we're also seeing general inflation come down. We are seeing some nice tailwinds coming from portions of energy. It's been a bit of a bifurcated situation though because we've seen diesel clearly better. Speaker 200:57:11We've seen electric modestly up. But again, managing our hours, managing our overtime, keeping our people safe will be areas that we will have a unique focus as we always do in the second half of the year. But I think you will see a better trend on repairs in particular. Speaker 1300:57:31Great. Thanks for taking my question. Speaker 200:57:33You bet. Good to talk to you, Jeff. Operator00:57:38Your next question comes from the line of Tyler Brown of Raymond James. Please ask your question. Speaker 1100:57:45Hey, good morning. Hey, Tyler. Hey, you talked a little bit about this earlier. But if I'm not mistaken, in conjunction with Bluewater, there was a notice of a July 15 mid year. I believe you had already communicated mid years out west early in the year. Speaker 1100:58:01So I'm just curious when you look at the portfolio, just how close are prices out west in those recently acquired operations to being harmonized to your heritage markets because I assume your heritage markets are also price increasing. So do you feel like there's still some catch up work there? And why wouldn't this be a sizable tailwind to pricing over the next few years just as you harmonize that whole portfolio? Speaker 200:58:26So Tyler, thank you for the question. So I would say 2 things. 1, we are getting closer. We are getting ever closer to Harmony in the Western U. S. Speaker 200:58:34So pretty soon you can start humming that music. I think that's going to be there. But here's the other thought that I would have for you. I'm not sure we're looking for harmony in the West. I think the West ought to be a price leader, because as we look at the cost of doing business in California, as we look at barriers to entry in California, just a host of things. Speaker 200:58:55The West Coast businesses should never, in my view, have been businesses priced below a Martin Marietta heritage number. And I think there should be a premium associated with businesses in that geography because you've got at times some premium costs associated with that geography. Now to the rest of your question, should there be recovery in places like Tennessee and elsewhere as we continue to go through the synergy realization process of the Blue Water operations? The answer is yes, there should be. And as I indicated, I think in some of my earlier commentary, is over $4 a ton delta right now between the average in those locations and Heritage Mart Marietta. Speaker 200:59:38So to your point, should there be an extended period of goodness in that? The answer is yes, because obviously the Heritage footprint or price profile will continue to go up as we continue to move up at the Bluewater operations as well and get those closer to that Harmony point that we spoke of before. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me as I look at our portfolio that North Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee would or should look materially different. And that's where we're endeavoring to take the business. Speaker 1101:00:12Yes. Excellent. Okay. Thank you. Speaker 201:00:14Thank you, Tyler. Operator01:00:17Your next question comes from the line of Michael Dudas of Vertical Research. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 1401:00:26Good morning, gentlemen and Jacqueline. Speaker 201:00:29Good morning. Speaker 1401:00:34Did notice in the presentation that Magnesia outlook is up for 2024 relative to the expectations. So maybe spend a little bit on a minute on that business and is there any reads or indications on general economic or this activity that can be helpful to thinking about how that business flows over the next several quarters? Speaker 201:00:56No, happy to. And it's really a tale of 2 different businesses there. So if we're looking just at revenues, as Jim said in his comments, they were relatively flat. Now as we look at that, chemicals up around 7%, lime though up 24%. And what we're seeing is pricing gains are more than offsetting lower chemical shipments. Speaker 201:01:17So chemical markets around the world and keep in mind, this is not just a regional business. This is a business that we cover the U. S. And we have double digit international business there as well. So we obviously saw volumes down, We saw pricing up. Speaker 201:01:32So you're seeing a lot of the same dynamics in the Magnesia Specialties business that we're seeing overall in the aggregates business as well. Part of what I'm pleased with is steel utilization levels are remaining just above the 70% historical average. That's not a terribly high number. And what our team has been able to do there is several fold. 1, control costs really well. Speaker 201:01:58Number 2, they're going about their commercial strategy in a fundamentally different way. That's been a business that historically has had longer term contracts and they've been in a position to revisit those contracts, reset them and make sure that again same circumstances aggregates. We've got long lived reserves at our facility in Woodville, Ohio. We have long lived brine reserves in Manistee, Michigan. At the same time, we need to be getting good value for those. Speaker 201:02:29And Chris Zamborski and his team have managed both sides of that business, controlling cost well and controlling pricing really well. And the EBITDA numbers that we're seeing in that business based on the volume in that business, frankly, it looks fundamentally different today than it would have 2 or 3 years ago under the same economic circumstances. So I'm very pleased with that business. The other thing that I'll say too, it wasn't part of your question, but I think it underscores the efficiency of the business. Their safety numbers have also gotten notably better you just see that business going in a direction that we're very pleased with in what's probably one of the tougher economies that any sector of our business is dealing with and they're likely to come in with a record EBITDA year this year. Speaker 201:03:20And that's the type of performance in this setting that makes us really excited about what Martin Marietta is going to look like in 2025, 2026, 2027, etcetera. Speaker 1401:03:30Excellent. Appreciate that, Ward. Thank Speaker 201:03:32you. You bet. Operator01:03:37Your next question comes from the line of Timna Tanners of Wolfe Research. Your line is now open. Please ask your question. Speaker 1501:03:46Hey, good morning. One remaining one from us, if I could. Speaker 201:03:49Good morning, Summer. Speaker 1501:03:50Good morning. So I wanted to touch on the comments you had earlier about interest rates and I want to ask something similar but about the election because we are hearing that there's some pause and activity around the election and so curious about that, but also if you could dive into maybe any risk to some of the IRA related projects, especially as they relate to EV demand and given the potential outcome of the election? Thanks. Speaker 201:04:13So, Timna, thank you so much. What we're not seeing I don't think we're seeing real slowdown on public relative to the election. So I think that just chugs along. I think that can have an effect on private and I think that's probably some of what we've seen in the first half of this year. So I think that's probably just more of same. Speaker 201:04:32Relative to public and what that could look like on IIJA reauthorization or the Inflation Reduction Act or otherwise, I would say several things. 1, I think we're relatively agnostic. And here's why, Timna. Look, I think if you have a Democratic administration that's in power this next time, my guess is IIJA looks pretty similar on a reauthorization basis and then you continue to see things like the Inflation Reduction Act. I think if you have a Republican administration, honestly, you probably have a more amped up infrastructure law and probably less IRA. Speaker 201:05:15And again, from our perspective, they're probably almost awash. And again, if we're looking at where the big investments are going to be made in highways, bridges, roads and streets, it's going to follow where people are. It's going to be driven by what's happening with DOT budgets and it's going to be happening driven by what happens at the ballot box where most of these places that are seeing big population trends continue to pass initiatives at well over 80% rates of passage and we think that's going to endure. Frankly, if we've looked at the last several elections and you look at what's passed, almost half of it tends to be in Texas. And again, it goes back to building that marketplace that we have in Dallas Fort Worth and San Antonio and in Houston. Speaker 201:06:01And again, relative to what we see going on in energy and otherwise, I think that can move around a little bit depending on whether we have regime change. But if you build your businesses the way that we have on major commerce corridors, that's where the activity is going to be, whether it's factories, whether it's industrial, whether it's energy or otherwise. And that's why the positions we have along the I-eighty five corridor, the I-ninety five corridor, the I-twenty five corridor, the I-thirty five corridor and the I-five corridor are so important to us. And keep in mind, Timna, we're the largest shipper of crushed stone on the railroads for a reason. We're the largest shipper of stone on BN UP, number 1 on CSX, number 2 on Norfolk Southern and now number 1 on the Canadians after they bought the Kansas City Southern. Speaker 201:06:52And to the extent that this industrial build out continues on either commerce by truck or commerce by rail, we're going to be well suited by that. And I think that's why from an election perspective, we're relatively agnostic and think we're going to be good either way and we love that durability. Speaker 1501:07:12Okay. Appreciate the thoughts. Thank you. Speaker 201:07:14Thank you, Timna. Operator01:07:19We do not have any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Ward Nye. Speaker 201:07:26Thank you all for joining today's earnings conference call. Martin Marietta has built a durable and resilient business poised to continue outperforming through dynamic macroeconomic cycles. Our compelling underlying fundamentals, dedicated teams, well defined strategic plan, carefully curated coast to coast footprint in the country's fastest growing markets and unparalleled attractive growth opportunities reinforce our confidence in Martin Marietta's ability to continue delivering sustainable growth and superior shareholder value now and into the future. We look forward to sharing our Q3 2024 results with you in the fall. As always, we're available for any follow-up questions. Speaker 201:08:05Thank you for your time and continued support of Martin Marietta. 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