Public Service Enterprise Group Q4 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

Quartr
Provided by Quartr
February 24, 2022

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Julia, and I will be your event operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to today's conference, Public Service Enterprise Group 4th Quarter and Full Year 2021 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session for members of the financial community.

Operator

As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today, February 24, 2022, and will be available as An audio webcast on PSEG's Investor Relations website at https I would now like to turn the conference over to Carlotta Chan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Julia. Good morning, and thank you for participating in our earnings PSEG's 4th quarter and full year 2021 earnings release, attachments and slides detailing operating results by company Are posted on our IR website located at investor. Pseg.com and our 10 ks will be filed shortly. The earnings release and other matters discussed during today's call contain forward looking statements and estimates that are subject to various risks and uncertainties. We will also discuss non GAAP operating earnings and non GAAP adjusted EBITDA, which differ from net income as reported in accordance With generally accepted accounting principles in the United States.

Speaker 1

We include reconciliations of our non GAAP financial measures And a disclaimer regarding forward looking statements on our IR website and in today's earnings materials. I will now turn the call over to Ralph Izzo, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer of PSEG. Joining Ralph on today's call is Dan Craig, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. At the conclusion of their remarks, there will be time for your questions. Ralph?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Carlotta. Good morning, everyone. Sadly, the events of today do warrant a slight deviation from our normal beginning remarks. And Let me just offer our thoughts and prayers from everyone at PSEG to those of you who are more deeply and personally affected by the Events in Eastern Europe and of course we pray for a rapid diplomatic resolution of matters. Let me proceed however with a review of our 2021 performance and our outlook for 2022 and beyond, we are in fact pleased to report strong operating and financial results for 2021, Which marked the 17th year in a row that PSEG has delivered results within management's original or in some cases our raised Non GAAP operating earnings guidance.

Speaker 2

So PSEG's GAAP results were $0.88 per share for the Q4 of 2021 Compared to $0.85 per share in the Q4 of 2020. For the full year, PSEG reported a 2021 net loss Of $1.29 per share driven by charges related to the sale of PSEG Fossil. This compares to net income of $3.76 per share in 2020. PSEG reported non GAAP operating earnings for the 4th quarter Our $0.69 per share compared to $0.65 per share in the Q4 of the prior year. Non GAAP results for the full year 2021 rose to $3.65 per share Compared to $3.43 per share in 2020.

Speaker 2

For 2021, PSE and G net income Increased by 9% above 2020 results and contributed approximately 80% of PSEG's Consolidated non GAAP operating earnings. Slides 15 and 17 detail these results for the quarter and the full year. So we're pleased to report that PSEG has completed the sale of the fossil portfolio. We closed on the PJM assets on February 18, And the New York and New England assets closed yesterday, having received all required regulatory approvals from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and regulators in Connecticut and New York. I extend my heartfelt thanks To the PSEG Fossil employees for their professionalism throughout the sale process, which resulted in an impressive 2021 operating statistics That actually were among the best in our history.

Speaker 2

PSEG Fossil's commitment to operational excellence and continuous improvement We'll continue to inspire all of us at PSEG going forward. The closing of both fossil sales along with other key priorities achieved during 2021 We'll support our pursuit of a robust set of regulated and contracted opportunities. PSEG is focused on clean energy Structure Investments to drive regulated utility growth with a vision toward powering a future where people use less energy And it's cleaner, safer and delivered more reliably than ever. PSEG's improved business mix further enhances An already compelling environmental, social and governance profile and will help us achieve that Powering Progress vision. Let me take a minute to recap a few significant accomplishments from last year.

Speaker 2

PSE and G initiated investments And its $2,000,000,000 Clean Energy Future Program that has expanded the traditional definition of rate base while helping New Jersey to achieve its And importantly, we'll provide customers with options to lower their bills. PSE and G Also settled a potential challenge to the return on equity in its FERC transmission formula rate last July, resulting in reduced rates for customers and eliminating a regulatory overhang. In addition, our energy strong investments proved their value in the aftermath of a devastating tropical storm Ida last August. Despite floodwaters approaching 5 feet in height in parts of New Jersey, All of the Energy Strong hardened substations remained operational and helped to minimize customer outages across our system. PSEG Power secured a second 3 year term of 0 emission certificates, which will carry us through May of 2025 and help to preserve the state's carbon free nuclear generating resource.

Speaker 2

We detailed these and other accomplishments at last September's Investor Day, Which highlighted a company built around a 2022 business mix that is projected to be 90% regulated. This more predictable and visible earnings platform has enabled PSEG to provide a multi year earnings growth rate of 5% to 7% From the 2022 guidance midpoint to 2025. PSEG also announced at last year's Investor Day We would pursue a $500,000,000 share repurchase program and raise the 2022 annual dividend by nearly 6% To do $2.16 per share. We have completed half of that repurchase program and we'll be executing the remaining $250,000,000 in the near In addition, our Board of Directors recently declared a $0.54 per share Q1 2022 dividend At the indicative $2.16 per share annual rate. Supporting our strong financial capabilities is our commitment To operational excellence and continuous improvement, I'm proud to report that for 2021, PSE and G achieved better than top decile rankings And OSHA scores for safety and SADI scores, which is an industry standard for reliability, as shown on Slide 8.

Speaker 2

Utilities J. D. Power customer satisfaction scores improved in both its electric and gas areas And in each of the residential and business customer segments, these results were our highest cumulative scores to date, Achieving a top quartile ranking in the Eastern group in 3 of the 4 studies. In addition, for the 20th year in a row, PA Consulting recognized PSE and G with its Reliability 1 award as the most reliable electric utility in the mid Atlantic region. After a sustained period of low natural gas prices, New Jersey and the rest of the country is experiencing increases in energy prices.

Speaker 2

This has resulted in PSE and G implementing 2 5% gas rate increases for this winter's heating season. Yet following these adjustments, our typical gas residential customer bills are still the lowest among our regional peers. On the electric side, monthly residential bills remain below our peer group average and default supply rates will actually decline this coming June Based on the results of New Jersey's basic generation service auction earlier this month, this will result in a Decrease in the average PSE and geologic bill of about 2.8%. Including the BGS rate reduction in June and other requested changes, The combined bill of a typical residential customer will be at least 20% lower compared to more than a decade ago and 35% to 40% lower when you take into account inflation. Next month, in March, the statewide moratorium on shutoffs for residential electric and gas service, Which began in March of 2020 is set to be lifted and PSE and G in partnership with the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities And several community groups is helping customers enroll in several payment assistance programs.

Speaker 2

Now turning to our 2022 earnings guidance on Slide 9. We have narrowed the range of full year guidance for non GAAP operating earnings To $3.35 to $3.55 per share, from the $3.30 $3.60 per share initiated last September. The subsidiary guidance ranges for 2022 are narrower also With a slightly higher midpoint at PSE and G, that is 6% above 2021 results and reflects a more predictable earnings profile And improved business mix overall. The narrowed range reflects the benefit of a full year impact of the conservation incentive program And finalizing 2022 pension drivers updated for our December 31 performance measurement date. Last September, we introduced PSEG's 5 year 2021 through 2025 Capital Investment Program A $15,000,000,000 to $17,000,000,000 was approximately 90% or $14,000,000,000 to $16,000,000,000 allocated to the utility.

Speaker 2

This plan is expected to produce 6.5% to 8% compound annual growth in rate base over that same 5 year period. Recall that we added the Infrastructure Advancement Program, I'll refer to that as IAP, to our 2021 to 2025 capital plan With an investment to be made over 4 years to improve the reliability of the last mile or the lower voltage of our electric distribution system. This will also address aging substations and gas metering and regulating stations and allow us to invest in electric vehicle charging infrastructure at our facilities to support the electrification Of the utilities vehicle fleet. We remain in discussions with the BPU with regard to our IAP proposal. And based on current status of the proceeding, we anticipate BPU action in the autumn of this year.

Speaker 2

With respect to financing our capital spending program, I will reiterate that we expect our strong cash flow, enhanced financial flexibility And solid investment grade ratings to enable funding this $15,000,000,000 to $17,000,000,000 program As well as our planned investment in Ocean Wind 1 without the need to issue new equity. Now before moving to Dan's financial review, I would like to touch upon some of the exciting new initiatives for future growth. These range from the new clean energy future investments, Which enable opportunities for rate base growth behind the meter to supporting electrification of transportation and a growing mix Renewables into the distribution system to expanding the aging infrastructure replacement programs that have been the hallmark of our growth this past decade. During 2021, we advanced our regional offshore wind efforts by acquiring a 25% equity Tristan Ocean Wind 1 and submitting several onshore and offshore solutions into the New Jersey PJM competitive transmission solicitation With our regional offshore wind partner, as well as through standalone PSE and G bids For onshore upgrades, we submitted 9 solutions into the state agreement approach proposal window being pursued by the BPU with technical assistance 7 of those proposals were jointly made with Under our partnership, which we've named Coastal Wind Link.

Speaker 2

These solutions are designed to deliver thousands of megawatts of offshore wind energy into New Jersey, drawing from PSEG's extensive transmission experience and expertise in offshore wind energy. These projects range from single collectors at various landing points To a linked transmission network out in the ocean, with total project costs ranging from $2,000,000,000 to $7,000,000,000 We continue to expect the 3rd or 4th quarter 2022 decision from the BPU on this matter. We're also in discussions with Orsted regarding near term opportunities and options to expand our offshore wind investments In the Mid Atlantic via by way of our joint ownership of the Garden State Offshore Energy Site And recent award of the Skipjack II project. Turning to our climate advocacy efforts, we are continuing our active dialogue with federal State regulators, PJM and other stakeholders to develop regulatory and market mechanisms that appropriately recognize the value of carbon As a top 10 producer of carbon free energy in the United States with a coal free fuel mix, We're especially supportive of the nuclear production tax credit and clean energy incentives proposed in previous legislative efforts and are hopeful that the broad support for the clean energy measures will result in new legislative proposals in coming months.

Speaker 2

As well as an equally impressive list of recognition. In 2021, we not only accelerated and And we expanded PSEG's climate vision by 20 years to net 0 2,030 covering scopes 12 for our entire operations. We also made a significant commitment by signing on to the United Nations backed Race TO 0 campaign That will validate science based targets for all three scopes of our mission reduction goals. We're fully engaged in meeting this commitment and look forward to updating you on our progress. PSEG was recently named to Just Capital's 2022 Just 1 hundred ranking of America's Most Just Companies.

Speaker 2

That's a lot of just in there. And we were headed to the 2022 Bloomberg Gender Equality Index as well. Among the many ESG accomplishments and recognition we attained in 2021, I'm gratified that our corporate strategy grounded in sustainability It's one that is appealing to ESG investors more and more. Finally, I thank the 13,000 strong PSEG workforce Contributing to our solid operating and financial results in 2021. The Board of Directors' recent dividend declaration It's the 18th annual increase in the last 19 years.

Speaker 2

Our 2022 dividend marks 115 consecutive years That PSEG has paid a common dividend to shareholders, one of only a very few companies that can make such a claim. This year's $0.12 per share increase reflects our confidence in the durability of our growth strategy as well as an ongoing commitment to returning capital to our shareholders. In summary, with the Fossil sale now behind us, We look forward to executing on our robust set of opportunities to grow both the regulated and contracted areas of our business. Solid alignment with the state of New Jersey's energy policy goals and our cost conscious focus on the customer bill Continue to underpin our approach to regulated growth investments that power progress in New Jersey, which has been our core mission for the last 419 years and counting. I'll now turn the call over to Dan for more details on our operating results And we'll be available for your questions after his remarks.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Ralph. Good morning, everybody. As Ralph mentioned, the full year and 4th quarter 2021 PSEG reported a net loss of $1.29 per share related to the fossil sale charges and mark to market impacts And net income of $0.88 per share, respectively. PSEG also reported full year and Q4 2021 non GAAP operating earnings $3.65 per share and $0.69 per share, respectively. We've provided you with information on Slides 15 and 17 regarding to non GAAP operating earnings by business for the Q4 and for the full year of 2021.

Speaker 3

And Slide 1618 contain waterfall charts I'll take you through the net changes quarter over quarter and year over year in non GAAP operating earnings by major business. And I'll now review each company in more detail. For the full year, PSE and G net income increased by $119,000,000 or approximately 9% This improvement reflects a 10% increase in rate base to $24,500,000,000 at year end 2021, Driven by our investment programs focused on infrastructure replacement, resiliency and beginning our clean energy future investments. We also note on Slide 32 approximately $1,200,000,000 of construction work in progress or CWIP, mostly transmission, not included in that year end 2021 rate base number. For the Q4 of 2021, PSE and G's net income was $0.53 per share compared to net income of $0.58 per share for the Q4 of 20 As shown on Slide 20, transmission margin was a $0.01 per share lower compared to the year earlier quarter, reflecting the formula rate settlement Implemented earlier in 2021, partly offset by growth in rate base and a benefit from O and M timing.

Speaker 3

Gas margin was $0.03 per share favorable, reflecting GSMP roll ins and the implementation of the Conservation Incentive Program or SIP Compared to last year's Q4, and electric margin was $0.01 per share higher compared to the Q4 of 2020, also reflecting ongoing investments and the adoption O and M expense was $0.01 unfavorable versus the year earlier quarter. Higher distribution depreciation expense reduced Results by a penny per share, reflecting higher plant and service. Lower pension expense added $0.02 per share versus the year ago quarter. And as we signaled last quarter, flow through taxes and other were $0.08 per share unfavorable, reflecting the expected reversal Similar positive impacts in taxes in the second and third quarter 2021 net income. The New Jersey economy continued to recover COVID related restrictions throughout 2021 as more people return to work outside the home and commercial activity stabilized.

Speaker 3

For the full year, weather normalized electric sales were flat versus 2020 and weather normalized gas sales were slightly higher, Up 0.3 percent over 2020. I should note with the SIP now in effect for electric and gas, growth in the number of customers, not sales, We'll drive net income for the utility. The number of electric and gas customer rose by approximately 1% each in 2021. PSE and G invested over $770,000,000 during the Q4 of 2021 and fully executed on Planned full year $2,700,000,000 electric and gas infrastructure capital spending program in 2021 to upgrade transmission and distribution facilities, Enhance reliability and increase resiliency and launch its clean energy future programs. We're on track Our higher $2,900,000,000 capital plan for 2022.

Speaker 3

And while we're seeing pockets of delays affecting certain equipment procurement, We are managing our work accordingly and do not expect that conditions will affect the overall capital plan. As detailed on Slide 31, approximately $865,000,000 of our 2022 capital plan is allocated to transmission, $840,000,000 to electric distribution, which includes over $200,000,000 in Energy Strong 2 $940,000,000 to gas distribution, which includes over $400,000,000 for GSMP2 and $275,000,000 For award winning energy efficiency programs. Of these amounts, the vast majority, about 90%, receives contemporaneous or near contemporaneous regulatory treatment Either through the FERC formula rate, clause recovery mechanisms or recovered in base rates as replacement spend or new business. As a reminder, the conservation incentive program is now in effect for both electric and gas sales with the implementation for the electric side of the business last June And for gas last October. This mechanism removes the variations of weather, economic activity, efficiency and customer usage from our financial results, Resetting margins to a baseline level per customer.

Speaker 3

The mechanism supports PSE and G's ability to promote maximum customer Participation in energy efficiency programs without the loss of margin from lower sales and retains earnings impacts based on the number of customers. And as a reminder, PSE and G suspended its gas weather normalization charge in October 2021 when the gas SIP began. We continue to expect the remaining balance of PSE and G's Clean Energy Future Filings, which includes energy storage and the remaining EV programs, We'll be addressed in future stakeholder proceedings. Moving on to Power for the full year 2021, PSEG Power reported a net loss of $4.09 per share and non GAAP operating earnings of $0.86 per share respectively. For the Q4 of 2021, PCG Power had net income of $0.40 per share and an increase of $0.10 per share compared to the Q4 of 2020.

Speaker 3

Power also reported 4th quarter non GAAP operating earnings of $0.21 per share, an increase of $0.11 per share over the year earlier quarter. In both instances, the quarterly improvement mainly reflected the cessation of depreciation expense related to the fossil sale And lower interest expense following the redemption of PSEG Power's remaining long term debt in October of 2021. Non GAAP adjusted EBITDA totaled $179,000,000 for the quarter $896,000,000 for the full year 2021. This compares to non GAAP adjusted EBITDA of $182,000,000 $990,000,000 for the Q4 and full year 2020, respectively. Non GAAP adjusted EBITDA excludes the same items as our non GAAP operating earnings measure as well as income tax, interest expense, The earnings release and Slide 25 provide you with a detailed analysis of the items having an impact on PSEG Power's non GAAP Operating earnings relative to net income, quarter over quarter from changes in revenue and costs.

Speaker 3

And we've also provided you with added Detail on generation for the Q4 and the full year on Slide 26. Gross margin for both the Q4 and full year 2021 was $30 per megawatt hour, A decline of $2 per megawatt hour over the Q4 and full year of 2020, mainly reflecting prior recontracting at lower prices. As we turn to Power's operations, total generation output for the Q4 of 13.3 terawatt hours was 9% higher than the Q4 of 2020. The nuclear fleet operated at an average capacity of 88.5% during the quarter producing 7.6 terawatt hours, which represented 57% of total generation. The combined cycle fleet produced 5.7 terawatt hours of output and operated at a 49.4% capacity factor.

Speaker 3

For the full year, 2021 generation totaled 54 terawatt hours, up 2% over 2020. And the nuclear fleet operated at an average capacity factor of 91.9 percent for the full year and produced over 31 terawatt hours of carbon free baseload power, Representing 58% of total generation. PCG is forecasting total baseload nuclear generation of 31 terawatt hours for the full year 2022, Hedge 95 percent to 100 percent at an average price of $29 per megawatt hour, representing an approximate $3 per megawatt hour decline from 2021. For 2023, nuclear generation is forecasted to be 31 terawatt hours and is 85% to 90% hedged at an average price of $28 per megawatt hour. And for 2024, total nuclear generation is forecasted to be 30 terawatt hours and is hedged 45% to 50% At an average price of $31 per megawatt hour.

Speaker 3

For 2022, PGM capacity prices determined in previous auctions Are expected to provide approximately $150,000,000 of revenue for our nuclear units. This is based on EMAC pricing of $66 per megawatt day for the 1st 5 months, followed by a scheduled decline to $98 per megawatt day for the last 7 months of 2022. The next PGM capacity auction for the 2023 to 2024 delivery year is expected to be held in June of 2022. Now let me briefly address results of Enterprise and Other, where we reported a net loss that increased by $0.02 per share compared to the Q4 of 2020 As a result of higher contributions to the PSEG Foundation and interest expense, partly offset by lower taxes. PCG ended 2021 with approximately $2,900,000,000 of available liquidity, including cash on hand of $818,000,000 And debt representing 57 percent of our consolidated capital.

Speaker 3

During 2021, PSEG issued 750,000,000 of senior notes at 84 basis points due November 2023 $750,000,000 of 2.45 percent senior notes due 2,031. And we also retired $300,000,000 of senior notes at maturity. As Ralph mentioned earlier, PSEG redeemed all remaining outstanding senior notes of PSEG Power in connection with the sale of Power's fossil generating units. The receipt of the fossil sale proceeds supports the share repurchase program and provides cash to help repay funds borrowed from the parent for the power debt We're providing 2022 non GAAP operating earnings guidance for PSE and G with an updated description for the remaining businesses for nuclear, offshore wind, Gas Operations Long Island and other investments as well as power financing costs to be described as carbon free infrastructure and other. For the full year of 2022, PSE and G's net income is forecasted at $1,510,000,000 to 1,560,000,000 And reflects the benefit of contemporaneously recovered investments and the full year benefit of the SIP.

Speaker 3

Non GAAP operating earnings for Carbon Free Structure and other is forecasted at $170,000,000 to $220,000,000 PSEG's 2022 operating earnings We'll exclude results from the fossil assets and the free cash flow previously generated from the fossil units translates into an adjustment in the purchase price. PCG also raised its common dividend by $0.12 per share to the indicative annual level of $2.16 a 5.9% increase Over 2021, the 2022 indicative rate represents a 63% payout ratio of consolidated earnings at the midpoint Our 2022 guidance and utility earnings alone are expected to cover 140% of the dividend at the midpoint of 2022 guidance. That concludes our formal remarks. To summarize, the non GAAP results for the quarter were $0.69 per share. For the full year, we're $3.65 per share.

Speaker 3

For 2022, we've narrowed our guidance to $3.35 to $3.55 per share With regulated operations contributing about 90%. The narrowing of our guidance reflects the setting of our 2022 pension expense, Which incorporates strong investment returns through year end 2021, offset by a more conservative portfolio composition given a strong year end funded status. As Ralph mentioned, our strong cash flow, improved financial flexibility and solid investment grade profile will enable us to fund PSEG's 5 year $15,000,000,000 to $17,000,000,000 capital program as well as our planned Ocean Wind I investment without the need to issue new equity. And with that, Ralph and I are ready to take your questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, We will now begin the question and answer session for members of the financial community. If your question has already been answered or you wish to withdraw your question from the polling request, you may do so by pressing the pound key. Your first question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet from JPMorgan.

Speaker 4

Just wanted to start with, given the significant attention on offshore projects Cost increases here. Just wanted to get your latest thoughts on this part of the business and if there's any color you could provide on kind of return expectation.

Speaker 2

Hi, Jeremy. Yes, I think our message has been pretty consistent on this that we look at the returns that Could come from these projects and insist upon them being above our regulated opportunities. The nature of the relationship with the state is that the commercial risk is minimized by virtue of the fixed price with escalators. But there's clearly operational construction risk that would exceed what we're normally accustomed to in utilities. So we look at the earnings accretion potential in those returns and We haven't given a specific number except to say that they have to be higher than the utility.

Speaker 2

And we're pleased. We think it's a regional The state is committed to going forward. I will say there's been a lot of discussion around this topic of late. And it just feels like some of the enthusiasm and exuberance for this that we questioned early on Has been tempted down a bit, but over that period of time, we've learned a lot more about the capabilities and skills Of our partner and we've learned a lot more about the commitment of other states and the development of the supply chain, some of the regulatory hurdles that have been eased by virtue Some state actions and some federal actions. So our initial early caution has actually been diminished and It feels like the lines are converging in terms of what the return expectations are from these projects.

Speaker 2

But suffice to say that We do have an internal set target and we'll be disciplined about making sure that we exceed that.

Speaker 4

Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you for that. And then just wondering, as you look into DC, if there's any thoughts you could share with regards to Not maybe Build Back Better itself, but the energy policy elements there. And if you see hope for that moving forward in some fashion?

Speaker 2

I do. I mean, I think we're all right now in a little bit of a holding pattern. Clearly, there are current events that are superseding Build Back Better and issues around Energy policy, I do think, however, the current events are going to motivate additional conversations around energy policy and How comfortable are we as a nation with sort of the increased globalization of gas prices, right? I mean, Gas markets used to be very, very regional, very tightly priced and clearly some of the dependency that Our allies in Europe have on Russian gas is going to be a factor in LNG exports, which is going to be a factor And prices here in the U. S.

Speaker 2

So I think we have a new dynamic that over the long term has a positive read through To our nuclear fleet and to renewable energy, the near term is going to be a little bit tougher to predict. But I think in general, I'm optimistic that the provisions that were first motivated by climate change And now I think can also be motivated by energy security are both positive forces for us. Great. Thank you for that.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Shar Parisi from Guggenheim Partners.

Speaker 5

Ralph, I just wanted to Get your

Speaker 6

perspective on the value of nuclear to sort of PSEG and more broadly kind of in the market. I mean, obviously, You envision some sort of a policy change at the federal level. And then as a follow-up, just given the recent public mark for the asset, How do these sort of factors play into the value proposition for long term ownership of the nuclear assets? I guess, Sum it all up, do you see value to transitioning to a pure distribution business, single state pure distribution business?

Speaker 2

So hi, Shar, it's good to hear from you. I'm going to ask you to have a little bit of patience with us as we focus on that question. And the reality is we're going to let our investors determine who the logical owner of nuclear is in the future. Our priority is right now the Continued outstanding operations that we've realized, Dan talked about a 92% capacity factor, I guess it was 91.9. Why can't we round those numbers up?

Speaker 2

And we just talked to Jeremy about the importance of nuclear from a climate change and Energy security point of view, I think I'm confident we can resolve those issues, if not at the federal level, certainly at the New Jersey state level, Within the calendar year. And once that's done, if PSE and G doesn't get the kind of recognition that it deserves That I believe it deserves in the market co located with nuclear, then I think the market will really be signaling us And maybe we're not the natural owners of it, but there's a couple of things that I want to get done before we jump to any conclusions because it is A well run operation that contributes to earnings and is a fairly steady earnings producer. I mean, it's not we're not hedging the spark spread here. We're not following full requirements on load contracts. We're a base load generator that can be hedged pretty comfortably over a 3 year period And be part of a fairly stable earnings stream.

Speaker 2

But as is often the case with us, we pay very careful attention to what the market and our investors are telling us. And I will give you a more definitive answer to that in the not too distant future. But right now, we've got just a couple of tasks ahead of us that I want to resolve.

Speaker 6

That's helpful and that's pretty consistent to what you've been saying. So thank you for that. And then just maybe just a CapEx Question here, the current plan remains at around $17,000,000,000 top end. What level of Spending, if any, just remind us, is embedded for offshore wind, the transmission proposals and any supporting infrastructure. And do you have an update around Ocean Wind too?

Speaker 6

Sorry if you highlighted that, but I had to jump on late.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. And maybe we're following accounting a little bit, but if you think about what's in that $15,000,000,000 to $17,000,000,000 you Do not have the Ocean Wind 1 investment in there. That's going to be accounted for as an equity interest in a joint venture. So it is Separate and apart from that $15,000,000 to $17,000,000 char. And I would say the same with the Ocean Wind link there.

Speaker 3

There's some modest dollars you could think about from the standpoint of the onshore infrastructure That would be necessary that that is going to support offshore wind more generally. But the Ocean Wind Link Spending think about offshore wind as being outside of that 15% to 17%.

Speaker 5

Got it. Got it.

Speaker 6

And any just Ocean Wind 2? Is there any sort of updates there at all or?

Speaker 2

Yes. Nothing brand new there, Shahriar. I think It's safe to say though that we have a series of conversations underway that are related to Ocean Wind 2, Skipjack, Potential further upside in Ocean Wind 1 and they all fall into this notion of what are the return expectations That can be derived from each of those. Terrific. Thank you guys so much.

Speaker 2

Appreciate it. Thank you. Sure.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Paul Peterson from Glenrock Associates.

Speaker 7

Good morning.

Speaker 8

How are you doing?

Speaker 2

Good, Paul. How are you?

Speaker 8

All right. So just to sort of follow-up on offshore wind and you guys with a history of being conservative And looking at risk adjusted rate of returns and mentioning that there is quite a bit of excitement out there among Parties looking to get into the business. Is there any potential of obviously, it depends on What you see out there, but I'm wondering if you've been approached or is there any potential for potentially monetizing it if in fact You guys see more opportunity. The risk adjusted rate of return compared to other things and what people are offering, It looks like you can maybe monetize it.

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, there's always that opportunity, right? Paul, you never say never. I just said never. But yes, I mean, we monetize the social the solar assets that we had, 400 plus megawatts.

Speaker 2

So that could be something. I think it's premature to monetize something that still has a Pretty robust growth trajectory and is right in our regional wheelhouse and has some enormous potential from a transmission point of view. So but yes, I mean we would always be open to that. I mean our core business is the regulated utility. It's beyond core.

Speaker 2

It's the dominant part of our business, 90%. But folks always know we're open to inquiries that can enhance shareholder value.

Speaker 8

Okay. And then with respect to the you mentioned that the PJM and BPU selection for transmission Associated with offshore wind in the Q3 and Q4. I'm just curious, is that just going to be an announcement? Do you think there'd be any shortlist that will be provided So in the interim or do you think it's just going to be a sort of a selection of the winners, so to speak, or the winners When it's finalized?

Speaker 2

Yes. So the short answer to that is I don't know. I mean the BPU has always prided itself On transparency and visibility and public outreach, so that would lead me to say, yes, But I think so little will be known just coming out of PJM in terms of the other criteria that the BPU may want to apply That would lead me to say no, that it would be too premature. So the most accurate answer is we just don't know. We have Some vague dates that have been given to us.

Speaker 2

We do know that the BPU wants to get this done before the next solicitation, Which goes out I think in the Q3. And so if you want people to bid an offshore wind farm based upon Knowledge of what they might have by way of transmission assets, then that would argue for Q3 results from the BPU. But There's a lot of flexibility built into the SAA approach that allows the BPU to take advantage of the transmission proposals or not depending upon What the ultimate wind farm winner is that gets proposed.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. And then just finally on electric efficiency And that you guys are big on making a big effort in that. I'm just sort of and I realize the way the investment works and what have you. But I'm just sort of wondering What given COVID and everything, it looks like essentially growth was sort of flat this year. Over the next several years or next 3 to 4 years, What do you expect sales growth to sort of be in your region given COVID and of course The energy efficiency efforts that you guys are making a big effort on.

Speaker 2

Yes. So I mean, I think we have a less than 1% projected growth rate for electric sales. We're going to do our best to turn that into a negative number because again our business is not predicated on Electric sales is predicated on electric value and with an aging infrastructure that cannot meet the challenges of today's Weather patterns are today's customer expectations. We have a huge task ahead of us of replacing that aging infrastructure. And the customer side of the meter is a huge opportunity set for us from the point of view of Our customer bills and climate change impact.

Speaker 2

And again, this isn't fufu dust. I mean, The way in which we continue to make money off these infrastructure investments is by basically sharing the fuel cost savings with our customers. But we're not in the fuel business. So that's a real win win for us and our customers.

Speaker 3

Yes. Paul, just to what Ralph is referencing is as we went in To this upsize of the energy efficiency program in conjunction with the state, I mean, it's about a tenfold increase in our investment amount. And So it was increasingly important at that point to ensure that lost revenues from those sales Did not create a disincentive with respect to the program. So that's when this conservation center program went in place that essentially separated The sales volumes and the revenue that we see from the volume of the product that we sell. And so that all made sense to get all of the incentives aligned, But it also dampened the implications to us from the standpoint of what sales are.

Speaker 3

It's more about numbers of customers than it is about actual sales volumes.

Speaker 8

Absolutely. It helps our customers too. So thanks so much. Appreciate it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Arnold from Vertical Research.

Speaker 7

Hello.

Speaker 2

Hi, Jonathan.

Speaker 7

Yes, just checking if you can hear me. So One quick question. You gave a stat on the bill impact from BGS. I think it was I think I heard 2.8%, something like that. Was that the supply rate or is that the average bill?

Speaker 7

And just maybe a quick headline on what How that sort of work

Speaker 2

that way? That's the bill impact, Jonathan, the whole bill, not just the supply department.

Speaker 7

Okay. And that's based on the auction that just happened effectively.

Speaker 2

Yes. Yes. That was driven by, you may recall, because of the delays in PGIM capacity auctions, there was a assumed capacity price that was in prior BGS auctions that It ended up being much higher than what the actual capacity price turned out.

Speaker 7

Great. Okay. That's great. Thank you. And then I did can you may I'm sorry if I missed this, but could you maybe just talk Ralph about where you are on Your efforts with the state to term out your nuclear.

Speaker 2

Yes, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So and by the way, that 2.8% no impact was just by way of our mind that that's a residential number. It obviously varies by rate class. I think we've now had 3 spirited conversations about the importance of nuclear in New Jersey in the last about 40 years. We had the creation of the legislation for the ZECs and we had 2 rounds of ZECs.

Speaker 2

And my sense from policy leaders, Both elected officials, regulators, key staff members is we need these plants to run At least until 2,050, which is actually beyond my current license. And asking ourselves that question every 3 years It's tantamount to it. It's just sort of being masochist and nobody really has that in them. So there is very much a strong desire to expand the duration of the support. There's an equally strong desire to see What happens at the federal level, however, before one acts on that?

Speaker 2

Yes, just a simple thing to think about, Jonathan, I won't take long Right now, the New Jersey legislation says if it's federal money for the carbon attributes of nuclear, then the State ZEC support goes down. Well, if you were to take the proposed production tax credit as it was originally envisioned And Build Back Better, what that would mean is that as power prices went up, The state ZEC dollars would go down would go up, I'm sorry, because the federal money goes down as power prices go up. So power prices rise, state increases its debt contribution. Power prices go down, state decreases its debt contribution. That's exactly the opposite of good public policy, right?

Speaker 2

So hopefully, I didn't confuse you with that, but I'm sure that We can clarify that further if need be. The point is that the state policy should be working in partnership with whatever the federal policy is and that's not been established as yet.

Speaker 7

So just in terms of how because if it takes us a while now, if Federal issues that are pushed off to the right. Like is there some chance we could have action in the state this year or just any thoughts about timing?

Speaker 2

Yes. No, I just we've already started those conversations and we would of course, we would follow the lead of our Legislators and our Governor, but we would encourage action sometime this year to certainly begin in anticipation of what A federal outcome might look like, but hopefully we would be able to initiate that action based upon federal resolution. It's just tough to estimate what a federal calendar might look like in light of the very complex set of issues Facing us in Washington right now.

Speaker 7

And just to tie things together, if I hear you right, you're not inclined to sort of make a strategic decision about nuclear until These things have sort of had time to work out, but you did say you would be planning to give us an update relatively soon. So just trying to square those Two statements.

Speaker 2

That's exactly right. Look, the reality is people have already expressed an interest in our nuclear plants and they're outstanding assets. The issue is how do you firm up the longer term economic treatment Beyond the 3 year timeframe. And I think we're the ones who are best positioned to do that, whether we're the natural owner or somebody else's. And that's what we're hard at work to

Speaker 3

Yes. And Josh, another thing maybe to think a little bit about is that there's been Number 1, I think that the support for nuclear as we've gone through these various stages that Ralph talked about, has grown over time and What support was there is cemented and I think others have come on to be more supportive. And it sounded its way through the ZEC laws, ZEC 1, ZEC 2. Well, The ZEC3 process that I think is a little bit torturous to work our way through and everybody involved As commented on that, frankly starts fairly early on within 2023. And so I think that Not wanting to go through another one of those shorter term determinations and trying to go to a longer term solution Could inspire some action before that starts and that starts into the end of the Q1 of 2023 if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3

So There isn't an outside data out there with respect to trying to get something done before to avoid the next cycle of the 3 years ex and moving on to a longer term solution.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you. Maybe just one housekeeping item. You said you've done half of the $500,000,000 How much of that was done So before year end and then I guess we'll get this in the K, but any chance of a year end share count just to help us with modeling?

Speaker 3

Not having that precise number in front of you, I'll make you wait for that, but you can think of it more as being a 'twenty two than a 'twenty one event.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2

You got it, Jack.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Paul Zimbardo from Bank of America.

Speaker 5

Actually, Julian on for Paul. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for the time. Just wanted to come back to the nuclear good morning. Just quickly wanted to come back to the nuclear conversation and apologies to do it.

Speaker 5

With respect to credit metrics, obviously, would you anticipate your credit metrics to be further relaxed to the extent to which you were to divest? I just want to understand Some of the incremental latitude since which you see that. And then separately, how do you think about like a litmus test on earnings accretion or Given the view of things that would be involved, could it be value accretive to divest without earnings? I'm just sort of thinking conceptually without asking that timeline.

Speaker 3

Yes. Julien, I think on the we haven't given a precise number with respect to where things would go. I think If you think about where the credit metrics moved from the standpoint of with and without fossil, I think that there's probably Increment in that same direction with respect to nuclear. And so I think, there has not been a firm number that we put out, but I think you would Even more regulated and that would be positive from a credit perspective. And I don't think there There's an accretion dilution answer to give you necessarily.

Speaker 3

I mean, we would take a look at the overall value, the accretion dilution on the ground, but also So the valuation of the company that Ralph was talking about before. So we look at both of those aspects with respect to what we would do in that situation.

Speaker 5

Right. But the point is, it doesn't necessarily need to be earnings accretive in order to move forward given, as you

Speaker 2

all think about the risk weight

Speaker 8

or whatever.

Speaker 2

Value that matters, right? Right. All of earnings, multiple expansion.

Speaker 9

Yes.

Speaker 5

Got it. Excellent. And then just a quick follow-up here

Speaker 3

on the

Speaker 5

IEP. How have conversations with stakeholders progressed on the remaining infrastructure program here? I mean, do you see the opportunity to achieve

Speaker 2

We've had a pretty good track record of resolving these issues through settlement process, and that would be my prediction here again, Julian, so but you can never guarantee that. But we're proposing to do things that are completely consistent with State Energy Master Plan, there's a huge social justice component associated with it in terms of job creation for Underemployed members of our community. So I really think it's a perfect fit for things that the state has said it wants to do. So I would be very surprised if we couldn't settle something eventually, but can't guarantee it.

Speaker 7

Got it. So look

Speaker 5

for something in the summer or something like that?

Speaker 2

I think so, early autumn.

Speaker 5

Got it. Excellent. We'll leave it there. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks. Thanks, Joey.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Arcaro from Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 10

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Let's see, it's been a thorough call, but maybe just one question I had was Thoughts on customer growth going forward after posting 1% growth in both electric and gas this past year? Wondering, if that's In the ballpark that you would expect going forward?

Speaker 3

Yes. I think that's a reasonable number to use on a go forward basis. If we look Back over time and forward, you're kind of in that ballpark. That's a reasonable assumption, Dave.

Speaker 10

Okay, great. And then maybe just any thoughts on the timing of the remaining $250,000,000 in buybacks?

Speaker 2

We haven't Put a firm

Speaker 3

day out there, but I think our language that we said was in the near future. And so I would think about it fairly near term.

Speaker 1

Julia, we'll take one more question.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sophie Karp from KeyBanc.

Speaker 9

Hi. Good morning. Thank you for squeezing me in here at the end of the call. Just One question, if I may. Could you comment on kind of like the recent spike in energy prices, what impact You've seen your customer bills and I appreciate your comments that you're not in the energy business, right, but your customers are nonetheless Presumably seeing some spikes in the overall bills and how bad is it right now?

Speaker 9

And do you expect that these increases will And how we inform as soon as future proceedings with the BTU or elsewhere?

Speaker 3

Yes. Sophie, I think that the mechanisms that New Jersey uses leaves us in pretty good stead with respect to what you're seeing here. And It works both ways. So we've seen commodity prices come down over time and the mechanisms had a slower kick in of some of those reductions, which they have seen. And when you see spikes in time, the impact similarly are going to be slower to find their way to the bill.

Speaker 3

And frankly, The duration of those spikes might be such that they don't find their way on the bill. What I mean by that one is, if you think about the BGS auction that we referenced earlier that just happened, that was A re up of onethree of the obligation to customers for 3 years with the other 2 thirds being based upon the last 2 year auctions. And so those auctions happen once a year in February starting in June. So the Depending upon what you see from a pricing impact and how long it lasts, you'll either see 1 third of the supply side move through over time and increase Or to the extent that you have shorter term perturbations that don't get bit into that February auction, you won't see it at all. So we talked about an overall reduction From the most recent auction, and again, that was driven by the update to the capacity prices going from Using a prior price to using what the actual prices actually were and that true up was a big driver in bringing that bill down.

Speaker 3

On the gas side, We can implement 5% increases to the bill and we have done that as we have stepped through time. But in In the overall scheme of things, those are limited in how they get moved through. So I think you don't see spikes on customer bills. You tend to see things It moderated by virtue of the mechanisms that have been put in place, which I think are very helpful from that perspective. And if you do see longer term

Operator

That is all the time that we have for questions. Please continue with your presentation or closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Okay. Well, thanks everyone for joining us. Hopefully, You've gotten the information you need, but I know from Carlotta and Dan that we'll be on the road at a couple of major conferences coming up In the next few days and we'd be more than happy to meet with folks and provide greater clarity. But at the end of the day, I just can't help but overemphasize, we are well on track To deliver on what we promised we would deliver last September, the dividend increase is in place, The share repurchase program is well underway. The growth rate is intact.

Speaker 2

And we are 90% regulated utility and that other 10% It's basically a contract on Long Island, strong nuclear operations and an ongoing gas supply contribution. So We're excited about the opportunities and prospects going forward in terms of the utility capital program being the underlying driver of our growth, But the additional augmented opportunities that may come from regional offshore wind all under a very, very strong balance sheet that is And of course, as far as the eye can see, not in need of additional equity. So we can provide more color when we see you in person and we look forward So that opportunity. Thank you all. Have a safe and good day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes your conference call for today.

Powered by Quartr
Earnings Conference Call
Public Service Enterprise Group Q4 2021
00:00 / 00:00