Entergy Q3 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Entergy announced a full leadership succession with Drew Marsh as CEO, Kimberly Fontan as CFO, and a reconfigured senior operations team to continue executing its strategic path.
  • The company reported adjusted EPS of $2.84 in Q3, raised the bottom of its 2022 guidance by $0.10 per share, affirmed its 6%–8% annual growth outlook through 2025, and increased its dividend by 6% to an annualized $4.28 per share.
  • Entergy’s renewables pipeline now includes eight active RFPs totaling 7 GW, a fully reserved 365 MW Go Green Tariff, and a 250 MW solar acquisition in Arkansas, alongside plans for Day 1 hydrogen capability at its Orange County plant.
  • The company strengthened its regulatory and infrastructure framework with formula rate plan approvals in four jurisdictions, an on-schedule Texas base rate case, securitization of Hurricane Ida costs, and a proposed $15 billion accelerated resilience plan.
  • Management highlighted robust industrial growth in the Gulf Coast, driven by MoUs on green hydrogen, a $2 billion carbon-capture ammonia complex, and continued LNG and petrochemical expansions supported by onshoring trends.
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Earnings Conference Call
Entergy Q3 2022
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There are 12 speakers on the call.

Operator

You for standing by, and welcome to the Third Quarter 2022 Entergy Corporation Earnings Release. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. And now I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Mr.

Operator

Bill Agler, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Good morning and thank you for joining us. We will begin today with comments from Entergy's CEO, Drew Marsh and then Kimberly Fontaine, our CFO, will review results. In an effort to accommodate everyone who has questions, we request that each person has no more than 2 questions. In today's call, management will make certain forward looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from these forward looking statements due to a number of factors, which are set forth in our earnings release, our slide presentation and our SEC filings.

Speaker 1

Entergy does not assume any obligation to update these forward looking statements. Management will also discuss non GAAP financial information. Reconciliations to the applicable GAAP measures are included in today's press release and slide presentation, both of which can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website. And now, I will turn the call over to Drew.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Bill, and good morning, everyone. Yesterday, the planned leadership succession that we announced in August took effect. While I'm honored to have the opportunity to lead this great company, I'm not alone. Leo remains as the Executive Chair for the next few months and we will continue to execute at a high level on our strategic path. Leo built a strong bench of talented leaders.

Speaker 2

Kimberly Fontan takes over as Chief Financial Officer and Kimberly Cook Nelson assumes the role of Chief Nuclear Officer. Meanwhile, Chris Bakken will serve as the Executive Vice President of Energy Infrastructure to provide leadership and mentorship To both Pete Norgio, who was recently promoted to Chief Operating Officer and Kimberly Cook Nelson as they settle into our top operational roles. While the new senior leadership with the new senior leadership team in place, Entergy has a bright future and we expect to deliver on the commitments that we've made to our key stakeholders. Today, we are reporting Strong quarterly adjusted earnings of $2.84 per share. This is another solid quarter that keeps us on track for the year.

Speaker 2

In fact, with our biggest quarter behind us, we are narrowing our 2022 guidance by raising the bottom of the range by $0.10 per share. And we are affirming our longer term outlooks for 6% to 8% annual growth through 2025. Last week, our Board of Directors raised our quarterly dividend by 6%. The annualized amount is now $4.28 per share, consistent with our target payout ratio of 60% to 65%. During the quarter, We continue to execute on many important fronts.

Speaker 2

Steady predictable growth depends on steady predictable regulatory mechanisms. 4 of our operating companies have annual formula rate plans to provide timely recovery of our investments to benefit customers. Mississippi's FRP filing was approved in July. Intergy New Orleans and Intergy Louisiana's FRP rate changes We're effective on September 1, and we expect Entergy Arkansas's annual review to wrap up in December. Entergy Texas filed a base rate case this year and it is proceeding on schedule with hearings planned in December.

Speaker 2

Absent the settlement, we expect a decision in the Q2 of next year. The New Orleans City Council approved a $206,000,000 While the prudent review of Ida costs is ongoing, moving forward with the financing will benefit customers by reducing interest rate risk. Louisiana's review of Ida costs is also ongoing. Staff recently filed supportive testimony and recommended full cost recovery. Hearings are scheduled for December and we expect to receive securitization funds early next year.

Speaker 2

These developments are an important step And moving our credit metrics back to targeted levels. In September, we received an ALJ recommendation on our Post Orange County Advanced Power Station or OCAPS. It was very encouraging that the presiding judges recommended approval of the project and they recognize the significant economic and reliability benefits that this facility would bring to our customer in Texas. The ALJ did not support the hydrogen capability for the plant, but we continue to believe that day 1 hydrogen co firing capability for OCAS It's in the best interest of our customers. I'll note that the Governor of Texas has indicated his support for the plant, including It's hydrogen capability.

Speaker 2

OCAP's hydrogen capability is less than 5% of the total investment and it provides a critically important option for fuel diversity and ensures the plant's continued value and low carbon future. Also, an economically viable hydrogen economy is no longer decades away. The passage of the Inflation Reduction Act promises to improve hydrogen economics and further accelerate clean hydrogen production. As we said, Entergy's region is uniquely positioned to take advantage of this opportunity, and we expect the Gulf Coast to lead the way, The decision on Orange County ultimately lies with the Commission And it is on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting. If approved, OCAPS will be our 1st unit capable of earning up to 30% hydrogen on day 1, with plans to eventually be 100 percent hydrogen capable.

Speaker 2

The Gulf region remains a prime target For onshoring growth opportunities. As we laid out at Analyst Day, our industrial customers have many inherent advantages that make them low cost producers on the global stage. This is enhanced by recent supply chain and geopolitical conditions. Commodity spreads important to our customers Remain positive and continue to support the outlooks we laid out in Analyst Day. We continue to see announcements for new projects in our service area.

Speaker 2

For example, Entergy Texas and New Fortress Energy signed an MoU for collaboration on developing renewable energy and hydrogen infrastructure. The partnership will help accelerate the green hydrogen economy in Southeast Texas. New Fortress Energy's project will leverage industry leading technology from Plug Power for the production of more than 50 tons per day of green hydrogen. Entergy Texas will supply 120 Megawatts of green power to serve this facility, which is expected to be one of the largest of its kind in North America. In Louisiana, Olin and Plug Power announced plans coming to life in our service territory.

Speaker 2

CF Industries announced a $2,000,000,000 carbon capture ammonia complex In Ascension Parish, which will create more than 400 jobs. This is another great example of customer growth tied to de carbonization. As I said, we've seen a lot of progress in the last few months. We continue to monitor the significant pipeline of opportunities For signs of impacts from broader economic uncertainty, we have not seen a noticeable pause or pullback. As we said at Analyst Day, fundamentals of our region uniquely position the Gulf Coast for substantial growth even in a challenging economy.

Speaker 2

We also continue to make progress on expanding our renewables footprint. We received approval for the 250 Megawatt DRIVER Solar Acquisition in Arkansas. This facility is being constructed near U. S. Steel's expansion in Osceola And it is expected to be completed in 2024 and U.

Speaker 2

S. Steel will receive the facility's clean energy attributes. This illustrates how we work collaboratively with our customers and our regulators to support growth, jobs and sustainability They also approved our new Go Green Tariff, which that's GEAUX, GO, which began taking reservations from large commercial and industrial customers yesterday. Based on inquiries to date, We are expecting strong demand and it arrived. The 3 65 Megawatts allocated to the tariff were fully reserved in just a few minutes, indicating strong demand for sustainability products.

Speaker 2

We also announced plans For 2 new renewable RFPs, Entergy Texas is seeking 2,000 megawatts of clean energy And Intergy Mississippi is seeking 500 Megawatts. We now have 8 active RFPs totaling 7,000 Megawatts. We've made selections in 4 of those RFPs and are negotiating with counterparties. We'll announce specific projects once agreements are reached. In addition to clean energy, Resilience is important for our customers who depend more than ever on reliable electricity supply.

Speaker 2

Since Hurricane Ida, We've invested in new infrastructure built to higher standards that will improve the system's resilience, including more than 22,000 distribution poles, More than 2,200 transmission structures and 8 substations. Execution on our resilience investment is ongoing And our base plan includes investments that will continue to upgrade our system. At Analyst Day, we laid out our $15,000,000,000 10 year accelerated resilience plan. We expect Our proposed investments to significantly reduce physical and financial storm risk, and we are engaging with stakeholders to make our case. We made our first filing in New Orleans.

Speaker 2

We plan to file in Louisiana before year end and in Texas by mid next year. We did our homework and the Accelerated Resilience Plan is heavily informed by our neighbors in Florida. Knowing that their hardened assets performed well in Hurricane Ian along with the strong performance of our own hardened infrastructure over the past couple of years Gives us confidence that we can substantially reduce our exposure to storms and provide meaningful benefits to customers. Affordability remains a top priority and we announced several initiatives last quarter to help our customers when they saw higher bills from both warmer temperatures and higher natural gas prices. As part of our recent customer affordability initiatives, We have helped more than 35,000 customers with more than $5,000,000 in bill credits.

Speaker 2

We have held energy fairs in 48 communities We've also weatherized many low income customers' homes and installed energy efficient appliances, including new heat pumps and tankless water heaters. These efforts are only a part of what we're doing to help with affordability. Many of our past actions are mitigating the impacts of high natural gas prices for our customers today. The investments we made over the last 8 years in more efficient generation and renewable resources Based on 2022 gas prices, these modern assets are reducing fuel costs by an $400,000,000 compared to what it would have otherwise been. Our nearly decade long participation in MISO Has also produced customer savings, which totaled more than $2,000,000,000 through 2021.

Speaker 2

Support for economic Development and growth in our service areas also helps with customer affordability. Not only does this spread fixed costs over a growing customer base, And also provides economic growth and jobs that are critical for our communities. Another lever for affordability is continuous improvement, which is more important than ever. We are using CI to find efficiencies that will offset inflationary pressures and create headroom for new investments to help customers. We have a robust growth story at Entergy.

Speaker 2

We're seeing significant industrial growth as economic indicators for businesses in the Gulf South continue to be positive. Besides driving investments and growth for our owners, that industrial growth is important for our communities, especially in today's economic environment. This opportunity is unique to Entergy and it will benefit each of our key stakeholders. We see our growth continuing for years to come as our customers need to help our help to need our help to achieve their decarbonization goals. It starts with growing our clean energy capacity, which will reduce our customers' indirect emissions and continues through electrification of industrial processes to reduce their direct emissions.

Speaker 2

We're very excited about our near term and long term prospects, And we look forward to continuing this conversation with you at the EEI Financial Conference in a few weeks. Before I wrap up, I'd like to say a few words about Leo Denault, who yesterday retired from his role as our Chief Executive Officer after a long and successful career. While we won't see him day to day, the impact of his tireless dedication to our 4 key stakeholders remain. Under Leo's leadership, we simplified our business to our core utilities. We turned around our nuclear operations.

Speaker 2

We redefined our customer focus. We've progressed and broadened our ESG commitments. We raised diversity, inclusion and belonging As a strategic pillar, we emerged as a national leader in corporate citizenship. Without missing a beat, We navigated through the pandemic and storms of the last couple of years and we established a clear vision of our future opportunities. As part of his distinguished career, Leo completed 74 earnings calls over the past 19 years, and he has been a steady presence for our key stakeholders.

Speaker 2

We will work with him as Executive Chairman for the next several months as we continue to make progress on the vision and strategy that he established. As I turn the call over, a word about our New Chief Financial Officer, Kimberly Fontan. Most recently, Kimberly served as our Chief Accounting Officer And she also has senior leadership experience in operations and regulatory roles. Kimberly brings a broad experience and perspective, and she's a great addition to Entergy's senior leadership team. Now, I'll turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Kimberly Fontan.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Drew, for that introduction. I'm honored to join the leadership team, and I'm Pleased to join you all on the call today. I'm looking forward to working with all of you in the financial community. As Drew said, we've had another strong quarter with results that keep us on track to meet our financial commitments. Summarized on Slide 3, our adjusted earnings were $2.84 per share.

Speaker 3

Consistent with comments on guidance last quarter, We are narrowing our guidance range by raising the bottom end $0.10 This result is consistent with our objective of steady, Predictable earnings growth. We are also affirming our outlooks through 2025. On Slide 4, you'll see the adjusted PS drivers for the quarter. Higher retail sales was the primary driver as last year was impacted by Hurricane Ida. Weather this year was also warmer than normal.

Speaker 3

Excluding weather, sales growth in the quarter was 5.7%. Industrial sales were up 7%. We continue to see growth from new and expansion projects in line with our expectations. The primary contributors to the industrial growth were chlor alkali and transportation customers. Sales to Small industrial and cogen customers were also higher than last year.

Speaker 3

O and M increased for the quarter due to several factors. Power delivery expenses increased, including higher vegetation cost, in part driven by inflation. We also had increased costs for transmission maintenance and nuclear operations. Bad debt expense rose on the heels of higher bills this past summer. Other drivers for the quarter results include higher depreciation and interest expense from investments we continue to make to serve customers.

Speaker 3

You can see on slides 56 that the fundamentals underlying our industrial sales and growth Remain strong and we have not seen signs of a pullback. Industrial commodity spreads continue to support positive margins and robust Gulf Coast operational levels. Refining remains highly profitable with low product inventory supporting high operational rates. Record commodity spreads continue to drive Gulf LNG exports to Europe today, an expansion of this capacity in the future. The U.

Speaker 3

S. Gulf ammonia producers are running at high rates to help fill the global supply gap. Beyond supportive commodity spreads, the Gulf Coast region continues to offer industrial customers inherent labor, Infrastructure and Global Shipping Advantages. And as we discussed at Analyst Day, this next wave of our industrial growth is being accelerated due to onshoring trends. These trends are caused by broking supply chain globally, The results for EWC are summarized on Slide 7.

Speaker 3

The shutdown and sale of our merchant Nuclear plants continue to be the main drivers for that business. Operating cash flow is shown on Slide 8. The quarter's result is $993,000,000 a decline compared to last year. Key variances, including the timing of fuel and purchase Power payments, the wind down of EWC and increased O and M, offset partially by higher utility customer receipts. Turning to credit and liquidity on Slide 9, we continue to work towards achieving in range or better Credit metrics by the end of 2023.

Speaker 3

We continue to monitor our deferred fuel position and in the Q3, our balance increased We continue to work with our retail regulators to manage the impact of high fuel costs on customer bills. The forward curve for natural gas continues to decline, which helps with customer bills as well. As deferred fuel balances are recovered, our credit metrics should improve. We continue to make progress on the securitization front. A credit positive development in the quarter was the City Council's approval for Entergy New Orleans to issue securitization bonds to establish a new storm reserve And recover Ida's storm cost.

Speaker 3

This of course is subject to the City Council's prudence review. Last quarter, we gave our early take on the impact of the inflation reduction act for our customers and for Entergy's cash and credit position. After additional analysis, we continue to be optimistic about the benefits from this legislation. Slide 10 provides highlights on the cash and credit impacts of the IRA. One important note is that we do not expect The chart illustrates the relationship between gas and power prices And the resulting nuclear production tax credits at various commodity prices.

Speaker 3

We expect to see meaningful value for our customers. Though as you can see, the value is dependent on volatile commodity prices. We will work with our retail regulators to flow the value of the production tax credits to Customers in a manner that mitigates volatility on their bills. We see meaningful value from the solar PTCs as well. The PTC's increased competitiveness of utility owned solar.

Speaker 3

The value for customers will increase over time as we grow our renewables portfolio. We remain encouraged about the prospects for the IRA to create value for our key stakeholders. Slide 11 summarizes the progress against our equity plan. To date, of the $1,200,000,000 expected need through 2024, we have issued nearly $1,100,000,000 most of which are equity forwards. We plan to exercise the equity forward and receive the cash proceeds by the end of the year.

Speaker 3

Moving to Slide 12. Given the added clarity from 3 quarters of actuals, we are narrowing our adjusted EPS guidance range and affirming our long term 6% to 8% growth outlook through 2025. For the full year, we once again raised our expectation on sales growth. This is largely due to higher than planned sales to cogeneration customers. While a positive for 2022, Going forward, we will continue to plan conservatively for this customer group as electric demand from these customers varies.

Speaker 3

Commercial sales also have been higher than we expected, a positive sign for economic health. The higher than planned revenue from weather Sales gives us the ability to spend in areas that benefit our customers and derisk future periods. Our O and M estimate for the year reflects flex spending, including initiatives to improve customer call response times and the enhanced customer assistance programs that we have discussed. We are also able to absorb some higher than expected expenses like vegetation management and ammonia used to reduce NOx emissions at our power generation plants without having to reduce other costs. Actions like these help us ensure that we deliver steady, Predictable adjusted EPS growth year in and year out.

Speaker 3

The Entergy management team will be in Florida in less than 2 weeks and we will provide our preliminary 3 year capital plan and high level drivers for 2023's earnings expectations. Additionally, we will discuss Entergy's long term growth story, including our unique industrial growth opportunity, our accelerated resilience program, Renewables expansion, IRA opportunities and our role in the hydrogen economy. Entergy has great opportunities ahead for our key stakeholders. We have a strong base plan to meet our strategic objectives and we look forward to talking to you about our plans at EEI. And now, the Entergy team is available to answer questions.

Operator

And our first question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet from JPMorgan. Your question please.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Jeremy.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Just want to start off with the 2,500 Megawatts added in RFPs. Just What is your expectation for utility owned opportunities there versus PPAs?

Speaker 3

Hey, thanks for the question, Jeremy. Good question. Our current expectation is at least 50% or better from an owned perspective, And that's what's assumed in our outlook.

Speaker 4

And does Tyra get into that?

Speaker 2

It's consistent with where we were Sorry, Jeremy, this is Drew. It's consistent with where we were at Analyst

Speaker 4

Day. Got it. Does Ira present the opportunity that this could be a bit higher?

Speaker 3

Sure. That's certainly something that we're looking at. Recall that a lot of our investments on renewables are in the back half of the decade. So we certainly expect See benefits from IRA in that period. And we'll talk more about that at Analyst Day.

Speaker 3

But we do think that the IRA provides upside as well as Reducing the need for tax equity partnerships on that front.

Speaker 4

Got it. That's helpful. And just if I could ask about U. S. Gulf Coast Industrial Activity Expansion.

Speaker 4

Wondering, what cadence do you see for that growth as far as LNG export capacity and other factors? What timeframe do you see that Ramping up and how do you think about the secondary impact where you're bringing kind of more and better jobs into the area and what that does for your residential

Speaker 2

Yes, that's a great question, Jeremy. It's Drew. I'll start off and then Kimberly or Rod can add To that, but it's what we laid out on the Analyst Day was 6% compound annual growth through the 5 year period. There's a big chunk of that that's coming in around 24, and that's I think that's probably The biggest step up in our forecast, but it's still consistent with what we laid out at that point and we see it continue to be robust. In terms of jobs, It certainly will be helpful for jobs in our area and continue to allow our customer our residential and commercial customer bases to grow.

Speaker 2

It's not as big as it was 30 years ago, honestly, because of the amount of automation and other things that are inherent in modern industrial facilities. But that also gives us the opportunity to be much more competitive on the global stage. So I think those there are trade offs in those pieces, but that's one of the things that makes Our region, very attractive. I don't know, Rod, if you have anything to add to that.

Speaker 5

No, I think that makes the point. The message we sent at Analyst Day around the back half Of the decade representing the lion's share of the growth and even in Analyst Day, we showed what sectors We thought would populate that growth as well, tying in our industrial expansion with the electrification and ESG concerns of our customers, so we ought to leave it at that.

Speaker 4

Got it. That's helpful. I'll leave it there. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jeremy.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Shahriar Pourreza From Guggenheim, your question please.

Speaker 6

Hey guys, good morning.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Shar.

Speaker 7

Josh, maybe just starting off

Speaker 6

Around your earnings guidance, just I guess looking at your O and M run rate increase And interest rate headwinds for 2023, how are you sort of thinking about the contingency and plan levers on offsets, etcetera? I guess, How does sort of this inflationary environment kind of change your planning parameters versus the Analyst Day expectations, especially as we're looking to bridge into next year with a sort of a $0.30 band at the top and bottom end.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Sher, for that question. I'll start with your O and M question. The drivers for 2022 were really around our flex levers, which includes Both pull forwards and one time items like the enhanced customer assistance program that we talked about earlier this year, the pull forwards give us frame to pull forward things From future years and de risk future periods. The other impact from 2022 was inflation, as you noted, and we were able to cover that in 22 through the increased weather and volume that we had in the 1st 3 quarters of the year. That said, we have included Level of inflation in our forecast for 2023 and we expect to meet our outlook as said and we cover that with continuous improvement Opportunities that we've been working on.

Speaker 3

As it relates to your interest rate question, I think at Analyst Day, the outlook was about 5%, We are 5.25 percent. We have increased the interest rate expense to about a little less than 6% on the long term debt and about 5.25 percent on the shorter term debt, and that's included in our outlooks. That said, our treasury team has done a lot of work over the last few years to Help mitigate exposure to potential rising interest rates by refinancing long term debts in the periods of lower interest rates to help us offset in future

Speaker 2

To come in, Kimberly mentioned that we are intending to exercise the equity forwards, and then we have the securitizations, which we should be finishing up Over the next several months, those two things should alleviate some borrowing needs in the next Near term, I should say.

Speaker 6

Okay. Perfect. And then just, Julas, maybe just shifting to financing. I mean, obviously, your capital growth Opportunities are increasing with resiliency, hardening, green tariffs, etcetera. I guess, how are you sort of thinking about more accretive ways to finance This growth in this current really challenging capital markets environment.

Speaker 6

I mean, there's been some press sort of highlighting that you You could be looking to raise about $2,000,000,000 through a minority sale of your utilities combined into a holding company excluding Texas. I guess Any sort of general comments here? Any sense on timing? Is there a process that started? I mean, you certainly won't be the 1st utility That's looking to optimize an asset in lieu of traditional financing?

Speaker 2

Yes. So I'll hand this over to Kimberly to address it first.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks, Shar. There's no new news on this front. I know we had talked to you about the value difference between private Capital and public capital markets and to the extent that we can capitalize on that and there's a difference there, we'd be compelled to do that. But there's no new news on that front at this point.

Speaker 8

Okay. Got it. I figured this is Drew's first CEO call.

Speaker 6

I was going to Try to put them on the spot. Thanks guys.

Speaker 2

And I handed it to Kimberly very softly.

Speaker 6

Like you deflected it perfectly. Thanks guys.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And And our next question comes from the line of David O'Kara from Morgan Stanley. Your question please.

Speaker 9

Hey, good morning. Thanks so much for taking my question.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 9

On the AMT, I just wanted to check how much of an impact are you expecting once we reach 2026? I think you had in one of the slides in terms of when the corporate AMT would start impacting the business. And I was wondering in the interim over the next couple of years, Just given that same slide, Slide 10, we're currently seeing Henry Hub forward prices kind of in the 4.50 Range or above over the next few years, is there an AMT impact at all In like 2024, 2025, that's offset by the nuclear PTC level. Wondering if you could just Compare those two impacts. Thanks.

Speaker 3

Sure. Good question. As the slide indicates, we don't expect a corporate minimum tax Until 2026, that's not being offset in 2024, 2025. If you think about how that's being calculated, it's a 3 year historical average. And then we can replace book depreciation with tax depreciation.

Speaker 3

So that enables us to not expect to have that minimum tax until 2026. That said, to your point on the graph on the right, we do think that we have significant opportunity on the nuclear PTCs, but it is dependent on the gas and the power prices, and where those are at the time. But those do start coming in, in 2023 and 2024 and so we'd Expect those to come in earlier than that corporate minimum tax and we'll work with our regulators to provide benefits to our customers, but also offset the effects Of that corporate minimum tax, when we do have exposure to that.

Speaker 9

Okay, great. Thanks. That's helpful. And then on the upcoming Louisiana resilience filing, I was just wondering if there's Any feedback or initial conversations from relevant stakeholders in the state around the importance, the priority of kicking off this work and what the appetite might be.

Speaker 5

Hi, it's Rod. The short answer is The stakeholders in the state of Louisiana all have expressed an interest in resiliency. They certainly understand the nuance after several stakeholder engagements between reliability and resiliency. The commission In and of itself, obviously, it's always going to be interested in how we pace it. And certainly, given the sensitivities around the current economic environment, How does this ultimately impact customer bills?

Speaker 5

But I think the as was stated in Drew's Opening comments, it's very clear that the lessons that we learned from NextEra I was also highlighting the work that we've been doing to get alignment around the need for accelerated Resiliency spending. Obviously, the decision is going to ultimately play out through the after the resiliency filing when the LPSC sets a procedural schedule, but the homework that we have done to date, all the way up to and including the most recent lessons learned from Our friends in Florida are all informing our bullish point of view around the need to do this. We're not in a position to tell you In advance, we're to get ahead of our regulators, but we do believe we're making good progress on getting alignment amongst our stakeholder group.

Speaker 9

Okay, great. Thanks so much.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Ted.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Durgesh Chopra from Evercore ISI. Your question please.

Speaker 8

Hey team, Good morning and congrats Drew your first call and Kimberly to you as well. Thank you. Yes, of course. All my other questions have been answered. I was just wondering if you could update if there's an update to share on the Seri settlement.

Speaker 8

I know you had this settlement with Mississippi, but anything there that we should focus on as we get into the year end or next step there?

Speaker 5

It's Rod again. No new news that I can communicate publicly. I can share affirmatively that we are actively engaged with relevant stakeholders in trying to confect A settlement in fine common ground, and I can only report that, that work is ongoing with nothing public.

Speaker 8

Okay. That's helpful, guys. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Paul Zimbardo from Bank of America. Your question please.

Speaker 10

Hi, good morning. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Paul.

Speaker 10

If I could just follow-up on Char's question a little bit and Thanks for the details on the O and M. If you could just break down that, I believe it's $0.60 higher than the original guidance. Specifically, how much is that acceleration versus more the inflation and the organic pieces of that?

Speaker 3

Yes, good question. There's a number of both pull forwards as well as Inflationary items, it's hard to get to the specific number, but from an inflation perspective, we're seeing that more in you see it Fuel, you see it in chemical type costs and then we see it on the capital side and less so in the labor market side. But we have included an ongoing level of inflation. And then if you think about the flex side, we have long talked about flexing up When there are opportunities from weather and volume or other things that happen in the business and that's really what you're seeing on the other side, opportunities to Spend where we can support our customers and our stakeholders.

Speaker 2

Yes. And Paul, it's Drew. I'll add that The inflation effects, they are touching us. We're not immune to that like the rest of the industry. The places where we're seeing it Start to creep in on the labor side or well, Kimberly mentioned the commodity type effects.

Speaker 2

And so we are also seeing it, I would say, in commodity services areas. So vegetation is a big area where we have seen inflation. And so we have been ramping up, as you mentioned, our continuous improvement efforts to offset that because the inflation piece doesn't go away easily. And so there are continuous improvement efforts are ramping up to offset that over the next However long we need it. And we're finding actually good success in the offset.

Speaker 2

So we're very comfortable that we're going to be able To manage through the inflation effects that we've seen so far.

Speaker 10

Okay, great. Understand there. And And staying on the hot topic of inflation, just as you think about the next Arkansas FRP filing, do you think that this is probably another one that's going to be at the Rate change cap or do you think you can manage a little bit below that level?

Speaker 3

Yes. We have been working in the Arkansas area. The continuous improvement will help us in that space to reduce cost. We certainly look at and watch to see try to stay under those caps so that we're both Managing the affordability for customers as well as, obviously creating value for all of our stakeholders. Well, but we believe that we'll continue to work through the inflation and manage that with continuous improvement.

Speaker 3

The specific number That we would file in Arkansas next year would still is still being developed, but it will certainly take into considerations of inflation.

Speaker 2

And we're a little over the cap for what's coming for the formulaic plan this year. So we are above the cap already there.

Speaker 10

Yes, yes. Okay, understood. Thank you both and see you soon.

Speaker 2

All right. Thanks, Paul.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Michael Lapides from Goldman Sachs. Your question please.

Speaker 10

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. And again, congrats not just to Drew and Kimberly, but obviously to Leo. It's been a long time since coming over from Indiana. I have a couple of easy questions.

Speaker 10

One is your demand growth, especially on the C and I side, has And really, really healthy, not just this year, but last couple of years. And this quarter, we saw a turn in residential demand growth. You've proposed Orange County in Texas, but just curious, even though you're adding a lot of renewable in lots of the jurisdictions, What's your thoughts are around in some of the other jurisdictions, any need for any more conventional generation?

Speaker 3

Yes, that's a good question. We do plan out over a long term and we're looking for We watch the growth that's occurring. Our plans include a significant amount of renewable investments as you suggested. I think we have 14 to 17 gigawatt hours in out over the longer period in investments. We will add baseload generation Smaller units to the extent that they are needed, to support reliability and ensure that we continue to meet the needs of our customers.

Speaker 3

But near term, Orange County is the project that's on the plan.

Speaker 2

And certainly, I think Orange County is an example of how we would approach it With hydrogen capability in mind, because of the long term need to make a Potential transition or targeted transition, I should say, to clean energy where our customers are taking us. So that would be part of it. I think, Michael, In the near term, we don't have a need for incremental capacity that can offset that. But certainly, If the demand, if the energy demand accelerates, then we would certainly need to look at that. And Right now, I think we're looking at sort of the back end of this decade is where we start to see the need for additional capacity, either from storage in some form or perhaps natural gas converting to hydrogen over the long term.

Speaker 10

Got it. And then one unrelated follow-up. Can you lots of really positive things happening in Louisiana. The securitization looks like It's going pretty smoothly. Still have a last step or 2 there.

Speaker 10

It will be interesting to watch the grid resiliency docket. Just curious though, Can you remind us what your revenue request was for the formula rate plan versus what's been authorized In the formula rate plan there. And just in general, how you're thinking about getting Louisiana closer to earning authorized rates of return?

Speaker 2

Yes. So you're referring the fact that we've sort of been at the bottom of our band in the formula rate plan? Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 10

Either the bottom or in some periods not at the bottom. Depends how long you look.

Speaker 2

Right, right. Well, I think we continue to work with the retail regulators around Options to be to get more efficient recovery, particularly as we begin to ramp up things like resilience. In our resilience filing, you'll see that we have requests for more contemporaneous cost recovery. We have put in place More efficient riders for transmission and distribution investment in Louisiana, We'll need to get those extended, but those are the kinds of tools that we have been using to help manage the lag that we've seen in Louisiana in particular.

Speaker 10

So if I look at your EPS guidance over the next couple of years, Does this assume that Louisiana at some point in that timeframe and if so, kind of help our out gets closer to the midpoint of the range?

Speaker 3

Yes. So it certainly assumes I think the last year of the FRP is next year's filing. And so we'd have to go through a new Either rate case or renewable of that FRP and we'd work with the commission to get outcomes that support The needs of the business, and so that's what we would be planning for in our outlook.

Speaker 10

Meaning your outlook assumes you're not at the low end of the band, you're back towards the middle? Or does it assume What you've delivered over the last couple of years?

Speaker 3

I think I'd have to look specifically what it assumes, but it certainly assumes that we work Constructively with our regulator in order to move us further up in that band.

Speaker 2

And I don't think it's assuming any new mechanisms It suddenly pop up in the forecast. We have we are assuming that we have the existing mechanisms in place, but we will need To get better mechanisms or to hit all of the financial targets that we need to hit, particularly the credit metrics that we are targeting going forward.

Speaker 10

Understood. And thank you. Lots of things improving in Louisiana over the last 5 to 7 years in terms of regulation and look forward to seeing this on a go forward basis. Thanks, Troy.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Michael.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Ross Fowler from UBS. Your question please.

Speaker 7

Good morning, Drew. Good morning, Kimberly. How are you?

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 7

Congratulations on the official new rules, I guess, as of yesterday. Most of my questions have been asked, but just a couple from me. So going back to Rod's comments on the Louisiana resiliency filing And lessons learned from Hurricane Ian, I guess one of the lessons learned was the system did very well, But there were parts of it obviously that didn't perform as well and there's been some discussions I guess in Florida around undergrounding Portions of the system that are higher risk, has that entered sort of the conversation in Louisiana yet? Or can you provide some color or context around that?

Speaker 5

It's Rob. The short answer is, yes. All of the above is part of the analysis. And you wouldn't be surprised to hear us say the conversation we expect the conversation to go towards cost benefit And risk reward, as you think about the location of where the risks, say, of high winds versus High water shows up. It's different depending upon what portion of the region you're talking about.

Speaker 5

But in Louisiana, They're definitely taking into account the benefits of underground, which historically The benefit has been that the frequency of outages with underground facilities is lower. But when there is some type of disruption, the duration is longer. That is after you tend to overcome The initial upfront cost of undergrounding, which in our service territory This has historically been cost prohibitive. What's different now given some of the, I'll call it, the positive recency bias With storm experience, we're and certainly some of the cost potential cost improvements and benefits Of undergrounding, it is part of the conversation.

Speaker 7

That's fantastic. Thank you. And then maybe one just on LNG Expansion, we've seen some softening in LNG prices. I think that probably has more to do with weather in Europe than anything else. But I know it's a daze.

Speaker 7

Are you still seeing a lot of interest there? Obviously, you touched on this a little bit, but what interest specifically are you seeing around Maybe use of electric drives for future projects and putting renewable energy into those electric drives to the extent possible Just what I make profile of future projects green.

Speaker 5

Yes. It's at the core of most of the conversations we're actually having With our LNG customers, we noted the recent earnings call for Energy Transfer On the Lake Charles F and G project, where they're expanding the gamut in consideration of the electric drives gas compression as well as a carbon capture, but across the landscape, We're seeing the expected acceleration of development of the LNG projects in the service territory. And We remain bullish as are our customers notwithstanding the current economic environment. I think Drew I alluded to some of the structural benefits or advantages that those customers have and that's continuing to show up not just in the expansion, but also In the ESG components of the LNG expansion as well.

Speaker 2

And Ross, I'll just add that that theme around the LNG with electric drives and having a cleaner product is not unique to LNG. We're seeing that in other industrial processes, where folks that particularly if you're putting in They're putting in new facilities. They're trying to electrify as much as possible. Some of the existing facilities will electrify over Tom, but if anybody is putting anything new, whether it's in metals or LNG or petrochem or whatever, they are Looking to see if they can electrify those industrial processes that normally probably would have been handled through fossil fuels. So that's an ongoing theme that we're seeing across a broad spectrum of industrial processes.

Speaker 7

Got it. That's fantastic, Drew. Thank you. And we'll see you all in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2

Great. Thanks, Ross.

Speaker 10

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our final question for today comes from the line of Sophie Karp from KeyBanc. Your question please.

Speaker 11

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. So I'd like to go back to, Steri a little bit here, maybe from a different angle. It's now up to, I think, just 3 or 4 slides in your presentation. Have you guys given any thought to maybe some sort of strategic more strategic solution to this Situation around these assets rather than litigating or trying to settle these dockets 1 by 1.

Speaker 11

Maybe it's a Strategic solution or some overarching regulatory solution? Is it global settlement of all of it? Like, is there any ideas you could share that you maybe had?

Speaker 2

Sure, Sophie. This is Drew. I'll tackle that. Certainly, the settlement Rod referenced the settlement that we have in Mississippi and we're in conversations with others To see if we can find a global settlement. Prior to the work that we are doing right now up FERC and all the different proceedings that we have.

Speaker 2

We went, I don't know, a couple of decades Without significant litigation around Siri. And I would expect that once we are through this, it will kind of go back to that natural We'll have to see, but certainly a strategic alternative around with that is something that we consider, but we would not have an option around that until we get through the litigated settlement. And so if we are able to get through the litigation, then we could consider something like that. But That's if we go back to a normal run rate, I don't think that would be the best option for us. So we'll have to wait and see how this develops.

Speaker 2

But certainly, Until we get through the current conversations up at the FERC, we wouldn't be able to go forward in any way on the strategic front.

Speaker 11

All right. Thanks for this color. It's all from me.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude the question I'd like to hand the program back to Bill Abler for any further remarks.

Speaker 1

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Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for patiently in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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