Frank Svoboda
Co-CEO at Globe Life
So I would say, well, both of those, you know, with respect to the stress testing, no real material change to, you know, our thoughts around that. We've, you know, we have updated that. We always do kind of a bottom-up approach with respect to what we think potential downgrades would be. You know, overall, we feel really good about where the portfolio is. We've had seven straight quarters of net upgrades, in the portfolio, and we've positioned it pretty well, you know, to where, of course, we have, you know, potentials for downgrades and, and would expect if in fact, there's some, you know, economic downturns, you know, some downgrades and, at least the potential for some defaults. But right now, in our base case for 2024, we don't anticipate any defaults, with respect to that.