MGM Resorts International Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 8, 2023
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Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the MGM Resorts International Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Joining the call from the company today are Bill Hornbuckle, Chief Executive Officer and President; Corey Sanders, Chief Operating Officer; Jonathan Halkyard, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer; Hubert Wang, President and Chief Operating Officer of MGM China; and Andrew Chapman, Director of Investor Relations. [Operator Instructions]

Now I would like to turn the call over to Andrew Chapman. Please go ahead.

Andrew Chapman
Director of Investor Relations at MGM Resorts International

Good afternoon, and welcome to the MGM Resorts International Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. This call is being broadcast live on the internet at investors.mgmresorts.com, we've also furnished our press release on Form 8-K to the SEC. On this call, we will make forward-looking statements under the safe harbor provisions of the federal securities laws. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated in these statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from these forward-looking statements is contained in today's press release and in our periodic filings with the SEC.

Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or otherwise. During the call, we will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures when talking about our performance. You can find the reconciliation of GAAP financial measures in our press release and investor presentation, which are available on our website. [Operator Instructions]

I will now turn it over to Bill Hornbuckle.

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Thanks, Andrew, and thank you all for joining us today. In the third quarter, we had a fantastic results as evidenced by our record consolidated net revenues. And despite the disruption across our portfolio, we achieved record same-store ADRs in Las Vegas as well as a record third quarter regional net revenues on a same-store basis. To say the least, we're off to a strong start prior to the cybersecurity issue. And to briefly summarize, on September 12, we disclosed that we identified a cybersecurity issue affecting certain of our U.S. systems. As a precautionary measure, we proactively shut down certain systems to mitigate risk to customer information, which resulted in disruption at some of our properties.

Over the following weeks, we systematically restored to enhance these systems, and we're fully operational by the end of the month of September. Following the issues, we have seen incredible resiliency in our business to start the fourth quarter. Going forward, we do not anticipate any further operational disruptions from the incent as expected that insurance will cover the losses incurred. We expect to receive insurance reimbursements in the upcoming quarters and Jonathan will provide more detailed information on the quarterly financial impacts in his remarks. I want to express my deep appreciation once again to our employees for the response during a challenging few weeks.

They showed resilience and professionalism, but more importantly, a commitment to our culture of taking care of our guests and each other. We've been humbled by the feedback from many of our guests who took the time to call out the exceptional service they received. We're coming out of this stronger as a team and as a culture with a focus on the culture of yes from both our guests and employees. One last thing on the employees. We continue to negotiate in good faith with the unions in both Las Vegas and Detroit with the goal of reaching agreement on new record contracts that work for everyone. In Las Vegas, as you know, Caesars Entertainment came to a new tenant of collective bargain agreement this morning, and we are literally in session as we speak, and I believe we will come to a deal today.

We know from listening to our employees that they are looking for a pay increase, to combat inflation, as well as reduced workloads among other concerns. This deal when announced, we'll do just that and will result in the largest pay increase in the history of our negotiations with the culinary union. As we shift our remarks to the fourth quarter, we anticipate the rival Las Vegas inaugural Formula one race next week. We are well prepared to welcome our guests for that what promises to be an exciting and enduring tentpole event. We sold out our Bellagio Fountain Club and grandstand seats. Cash roommates are several multiples have had of the same week in prior years, and the casino front money deposits indicate Formula One will be an all-time record casino event.

As we look into 2024, we see strength in future bookings rate and group pace into the first half of the year, and we're encouraged by a number of tailwinds, including the launch of Marriott's direct bookings in the first quarter, a fully renovated Mandalay Bay Convention Center, which will return 100,000 primary midweek room nights lost in 2023, International Baccarat play further coming back opportunities to enhance our omnichannel marketing offerings to bet MGM and MGM Rewards customers, improving cross-play between regionals and Las Vegas, exceptional high Super Bowl demand as well as a strong event calendar for the balance of the year, including the return of Formula one in the fall of '24. And plus the recent completion of the bridge connecting the Cosmopolitan City Center and Bellagio.

We've been diligently also working on deploying capital in meaningful ways of our existing resorts with numerous hotel, restaurant and entertainment refreshes. Beyond these domestic operating tailwinds we are underway in Japan, we believe we are well positioned to be awarded a commercial gaming license in New York, and BetMGM is now on a positive path and more of those in just a moment. Turning to our regional operations. Top line trends were solid. In fact, as mentioned previously, we had a record third quarter same-store regional net revenues despite the disruption. Margins were expected in the low 30s. In the Macau market, it is clearly evident that business is booming. In fact, it was a third quarter net revenue adjusted property EBITDA record and surpassed 2019 and adjusted property EBITDAR, mass GGR and visitation.

Then to kick off the fourth quarter, we had an amazing Golden Week that led to a market share for October of over 15% and an all-time record adjusted property EBITDAR for the month. Results have been outstanding because of the ingenuity and execution of the team at the MGM China. Looking forward, we are still laser-focused on three key priorities: making opportunistic changes to our casino floor and existing room products to maximize yield, taking care of our mass and premium mass customers and driving international tourism. At MGM Cotai, we will start remodeling of our platinum area for completion early next year. And at the MGM Macau, we have begun planning for a villa upgrade and the addition of six new villas.

BetMGM in the U.S. is now live in 28 markets. The team is making great progress with the integration of Angstrom in our sports products adding a merriment of betting options not offered before and single account, single wallet has launched in all the states, but Nevada. The BetMGM team will provide a comprehensive business update next month on their progress. Specific to our international digital efforts and September MGM Resorts and LeoVegas, launched a multimedia marketing supporting the BetMGM brand in the U.K. with Chris Rock leading the campaign. U.K. market is ideal for an initial launch due to its size and the brand recognition of MGM with U.K. customers. Initial KPIs are very encouraging with the first time deposits much higher than expected. We will leverage our recent acquisition of Push Gaming to bring innovative games to the U.K. and ultimately to BetMGM.

We will also look for Push to extend into further international markets through existing B2B relationships. On the development front, we signed our implementation agreement with the City of Osaka in September, and this is effectively our green light to begin the project. The total project cost of JPY1.27 trillion of which MGM's expected equity contributions of approximately JPY300 billion, which at current spot is roughly $2 billion, costs have inflated through the course of the progress -- process we have kept the budget unchanged by reducing minor scope around certain areas that will not impact the project returns and by locking in very attractive foreign exchange rates. We look forward to breaking ground Osaka for it will be Japan's first ever integrated resort.

In New York, we have submitted our second round RFA questions to the Gaming Commission and we're prepared to submit our application within 30 days of the date at which the Gaming Commission answers those questions. We believe our existing facility, brand recognition and strong ties for the anchors community, making us a great contender for one of those three available licenses. In Dubai, our partner was one is under construction on a luxury development, including 1,400 hotel rooms with the MGM Grand, Bellagio and Aria brands. We currently have a hospitality management deal requiring no capital from us. That said, we do significantly -- we do see a significant opportunity if gaming were to be legalized, first in UAE and ultimately in Dubai.

We believe they have the best gaming hospitality brands in the world with the best location in Dubai and our existing project could include a world-class gaming component, if approved. And finally, we expect the launch of our strategic relationship with Marriott to begin in early 2024 when we will begin to start taking reservations. We have launched the official landing page, and we'll soon announce the exciting loyalty benefits we plan to offer to both MGM Rewards and Marriott Bonvoy members and its 180 million members. In closing, the stability of our domestic business and the focus on margins will be supplemented by BetMGM is approaching profitability as well as by outsized earnings opportunities in Macau as the business continues to ramp further.

We also have long-term drivers with our developments in Japan and New York and our international digital strategy with LeoVegas. When you connect each of these prospects for cash flow generation together, add to it a fortress balance sheet with more cash than debt when excluding MGM China and then considering the fact that we have reduced our current share count by approximately 31% in less than three years, and our Board recently approved an additional $2 billion share buyback authorization, we are confident that the company is tremendously positioned to grow its free cash flow going forward. With that, and before I lose my voice completely,

I will turn this over to Jonathan for more details on the quarter.

Jonathan Halkyard
Chief Financial Officer at MGM Resorts International

Thanks, Bill. Before I get into the financial results, I, too, would like to commend the selfless efforts of all of our employees during our recent cyber security issue. I personally witnessed so many people on our teams go above and beyond to support their colleagues and take care of our customers. As you likely saw in the 8-K, we highlighted an estimated adjusted property EBITDAR impact from the cybersecurity event of approximately $100 million in September. Most of this impact was from a loss in revenue from room cancellations in Las Vegas and our service recovery efforts. We expect the Q4 impact to be limited. With some hotel bookings lost in the first part of October and a brief disruption to the direct mail cadence in our calendar, which affects the regionals more meaningfully than Las Vegas.

We remain confident that the losses will be covered by our cyber insurance. Now turning to the results for the quarter. Our consolidated businesses generated net revenues of $4 billion, up 16% from last year. Net income of $161 million and adjusted EBITDAR of $1.1 billion with significant contribution from MGM China. During the quarter, net cash from operating activities was $694 million and free cash flow was $484 million, it's important to note that $197 million in cash flow from operating activities and $8 million in capital expenditures related to MGM China and were included in the quarter. In Las Vegas, net revenues of $2.1 billion were down $195 million or 8% compared to the prior year. Adjusted property EBITDAR was down 16% to $714 million.

Same-store net revenues, which excludes Mirage from last year were down 2% and same-store adjusted property EBITDAR was down 11%. Las Vegas adjusted property EBITDAR margins were 34%, and we estimate about 200 basis points of margin impact in Las Vegas was related to the cybersecurity issue. At the start of the third quarter, trends were solid in Las Vegas. July and August combined net revenues on a same-store basis were essentially flat versus 2022. Occupancy for the first two months was up 100 basis points year-over-year and then fell to 88% in September, down six percentage points year-over-year. That being said, we drove a sharp recovery in October with occupancy back up to 95% in Las Vegas.

Importantly, while we're still working to negotiate a new collective bargaining agreement with the Culinary Union, we have been accruing for an increase since June 1. We will not provide the full details of that accrual at this time given that we're still in active negotiations, and we'll look to technology and process improvements to help offset the incremental labor costs we expect. Turning to the regions. In September, the cybersecurity event also affected the regional properties. Prior to this incident, July and August had a strong start to the third quarter with a 2% increase in same-store net revenues versus last year. Full third quarter revenues of $925 million though were down 5% compared to the prior year, and adjusted property EBITDAR was down 9% to $293 million.

Same-store revenues, which exclude Gold Strike were up 1% and same-store adjusted property EBITDAR was down just 2% or $6 million even with the impact of the cyber incident. In Macau, our adjusted property EBITDAR of $226 million was a 23% increase compared to the third quarter of 2019. We achieved 28% margins helps them what, by a benefit of $18 million from hold in the quarter. Casino revenues exceeded third quarter 2019 levels, primarily driven by our main floor win. And discounts and incentives as a percentage of gross win were 600 basis points lower compared to 2019, mainly due to the shift from VIP to mass. BetMGM is well on pace to achieve its forecast of $1.8 billion to $2.0 billion in net revenues from operations for the year.

Our 50% share of BetMGM's operating income in the third quarter was $13 million, marking our first quarter of profitability at BetMGM. We now anticipate fourth quarter corporate expense to be roughly $115 million bringing full year corporate expense less share-based compensation to approximately $450 million. This upward adjustment relates to incentive fees in Japan related to the signing of the implementation agreement IT and cybersecurity issue related expenses as well as costs related to the integration of the Cosmopolitan. On the development front, in Japan, we expect to commit approximately $2 billion over the next five years.

Our New York expansion, if approved, will be an all-in project estimated also at $2 billion, of which $1.5 billion will be invested on improvements and $500 million expected for the license fee. We plan to fully fund these projects through free cash flow generated by our operations. I'll conclude with an overview of our free cash flow per share growth algorithm and it's pretty straightforward. First, we're committed to growing EBITDAR by improving our core operational performance, deploying growth capital and high-return projects and by focusing on margins. We create operating leverage by growing our EBITDAR more than our fixed 2% rent escalators.

Second, we'll continue to buy back our shares as evidenced by the new $2 billion share repurchase program authorized by our Board. In addition to returning share -- or cash to our shareholders, these repurchases turbocharge our free cash flow per share growth. And there is more free cash flow growth on the horizon as we're making significant progress with BetMGM, and we have those two exciting growth projects in the pipeline.

With that, Bill, back to you.

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Thanks, Jonathan. And just some open comments before we talk questions. I'm reminded about the resiliency of this market in our company and our employees. Candidly, this quarter, we went to hell in back with what we all went through with cyber attack. And I'm proud of what we've accomplished, put ourselves back on track. But more importantly, I think as an indicator of this market, fundamentals have changed. We've gone from a month ago in distress to getting ready for the biggest event on one of the second worst weekends as.

This app city has ever seen in its ongoing history of occupancy to the biggest event we've ever seen with Formula 1. And so fundamentally, this marketplace has changed. Macau continues to do exceptionally well. Very proud of that team. You've seen the market share that it has gained and it will keep. And given that we ultimately have about 3% of the suite product I think we're kicking on all cylinders there and doing the right things, and we're going to look to correct that.

If I think about the future, I think about development in Japan in the long haul, hopefully, New York in the midterm, and next year, I think about the ability to unleash 180 million Bonvoy members and Marriott, I get very excited. And then ultimately, the balance sheet. I think we've been very good fiduciaries. I think the company, Jonathan of note, has done a great job managing it. And we find ourselves in a great position to think about the future and things to do and invest in.

And with that, operator, I will open this up for questions. So thank you.

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Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question is from Joe Greff with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Joe Greff
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Good afternoon, everybody. Congratulations on the results. Maybe this is a question for Corey, but for anybody who wants to take it. I kind of think the Mandalay Bay Convention Center coming back is underappreciated as a driver for growth for next year. Can you talk about the group mix for next year? And where you think you'll end up for the group mix for this year in Las Vegas?

Corey Sanders
Chief Operating Officer at MGM Resorts International

Yes, Joe, this is Corey. We also think it is a big deal. The convention space will be fully renovated by the second quarter of next year. We expect to pick up about 100,000 extra rooms there next year with still opportunities to increase it. And the beauty of that is that's at a high single-digit ADR increase compared to where we are today. So I think all in all, strategically, as that building goes, it fills the South Strip which fills Excalibur, Luxor, which is to the benefit of us as a company.

Joe Greff
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Great. And then I think I might know how you're going to answer this one, Bill. Regarding F1. Last night, the Red Rock guys thought that certain casino operator internal expectations for F1 had come down more recently. Can you talk about what you're expecting for F1, if any internal expectations at least directionally have been ratcheted down and I know Caesars in the past that said they thought in isolation, F1 would be an incremental 5% of quarterly EBITDAR. If you kind of want to take a stab, maybe where you think the contribution could end up being for F1 for you guys in Las Vegas? And that's all for me.

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Thanks, Joe. I appreciate the question because if someone wasn't going to ask it, I was going to answer it anyways. We sold over 10,000 tickets to F1. We've sold out a really cool experience with the Bellagio Fountain Club. I think something extremely unique anywhere in the whole sport, but particularly given its location. Our average rate is over $900 for the company. We're going to do over $60 million in incremental hotel revenue for the weekend. And it is 50% above, 50% above any other event we've had in terms of theoretical win. Now we all know what could happen to theoretical, knock on wood. But there's been nothing quite like it and to have it placed in the weekend that it is, we think, going to be an incredible opportunity for the company and ultimately for the city long term. It has not been without its challenges.

Believe me, I'm a local, I get the traffic. I understand it. I understand what our employees are going through. But I think long term, it's going to be a big winner. We will figure it all out. There's been a great deal of money invested not only by the properties but ultimately by Liberty and F1. And I think it's going to be an exciting week. It will look back on and say, Yes, we're going to learn some things. But ultimately, something to be cherished for a long time here.

Corey Sanders
Chief Operating Officer at MGM Resorts International

So, what I would add is this is truly a luxury event, and our properties are completely geared up for that. The location, we have the right database to make this a premium event for our company.

Joe Greff
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Thank you, guys.

Operator

The next question is from Carlo Santarelli with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Carlo Santarelli
Analyst at Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft

Hey, guys. I appreciate you taking my question. Bill, you talked a lot about kind of the outlook for next year and obviously, a lot of favorable drivers. As you look at the business today and kind of looking at the nonevent times, how do those -- and I get it in the quarter, obviously, a lot of disruption from the cyber stuff and whatnot. But how do those periods look relative to, say, last year?

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Look, and you know how this works, Carlo, better than most. We have a short window in terms of FIT, but we do know events. And so when I think about the Super Bowl, I think about Formula one coming back, I think about the fact that we have an NFL team in town that's going to guarantee us at least eight games, etc. It is fundamentally a foundation for business going forward that we haven't had. And back to, Carlo, further -- or prior question, around convention, it continues to grow. We continue to get back to the market mix that we're about 18%, 19% of our base in convention which is obviously the premium rate. And so we're excited by all of that.

We, through COVID learned a lot. I think you know this, but generally, our casino market share is up, our market mix about 10%. And so we can lean into that, we continue to lean into that heavily. And I do believe Marriott at scale will make a difference. And so while early to tell the pressures that are on us, whether they be wage or for insurance or other premiums are real, but I feel every bit of confidence that we can overcome that, particularly here in Las Vegas and push forward with the kind of results I hope you all expect.

Carlo Santarelli
Analyst at Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft

That's super helpful. And then just if I could follow up. Obviously, Las Vegas table hold, which we saw in the Nevada filings throughout the quarter was very high for the industry on the baccarat side. You guys held well -- so kind of a two-part question. Any help quantifying the EBITDA impact in the period from the higher hold? And the second part is, is there something that's changed outside of game math, which was a long time ago, that's kind of driving what seems to be consistently higher holds for you guys going forward? And is there any thought in kind of reevaluating where those theoretical numbers should be?

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Well, I'll take the second one first and turn it over to Jonathan or Corey on the broader one, although I don't want to give because we want it because we lost. But having said that, look, we have more domestic baccarat business than we've ever had. There are three now bets, basically in every baccarat game that people are taking advantage of because they're fun and exciting. But no surprise out there. There's the house advantage couple of the bets are 10% bets on behalf of the house.

And so a little shift in play, definite shift in market in terms of international versus domestic. I think some of that bounces itself out. And the other thing we've seen is there's a quantum of very, very high-end customers who really swing this number more than I've seen historically versus a balance of customers all the way through mid-tier and all the way up to the very high end. And so I think you're seeing some of that volatility as well, obviously, this quarter in our favor.

Jonathan Halkyard
Chief Financial Officer at MGM Resorts International

And as it relates, Carlo to the financial impact of these swings, we've at least domestically tried to get out of the business of giving the puts and takes related to hold. We did, as you noted in my prepared remarks around Macau. But in the domestic business, we're not going to get into that detail.

Carlo Santarelli
Analyst at Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft

Understood. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Next question is from Shaun Kelley with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Shaun Kelley
Analyst at Bank of America

All right. Hi, good afternoon everybody. Thank you for taking my questions. I just want to dig into the sort of the domestic margins a little bit more if it was possible. Obviously, a lot going on between hold, which we just talked about, the impact on cyber and everything else. But I think if we try and adjust for some of these, including the union approval, it looks to us like the margin performance was very good, if we kind of stripped this out, both in regional and in Vegas. When we just look at it versus what happened last quarter.

And I was kind of wondering, does that directionally fit with what you're seeing? And were there any either operating expense improvements or things you were able to kind of do or isolate that helped offset some of the just broad inflationary pressure that we hear about out there across the business?

Jonathan Halkyard
Chief Financial Officer at MGM Resorts International

Shaun, it's Jonathan. We agree. We think both in the Las Vegas market and in the regional markets when adjusting for the impact of the cyber incident whether you look at it year-over-year or sequentially from the second quarter to the third quarter that our margins were flat to up in those comparisons. The impact in Las Vegas on margins was about 200 basis points. There was some impact from the accrual in the third quarter that I mentioned related to anticipated increases in labor costs. So when correcting for those, the margin.

I thought the margin performance year-over-year and sequentially was pretty good. The regions, the margin impact from the cybersecurity incident was less severe, it's less than 100 basis points. For a number of reasons. But even with that modest adjustment, you can see that our margins in the low 30s compared pretty well, both sequentially and year-over-year despite some continued labor cost increases in the regions and actually some more labor content in that business.

Shaun Kelley
Analyst at Bank of America

Great. As my follow-up, just quickly, if I could. We've heard more and more about just promotional levels picking up a bit in Macau. And I was wondering if yourselves are, I don't know if Hubert's on the line or somebody could comment a little bit more on just what you're seeing over there? It seems like based on the share number you disclosed for October and what you talked about, Bill, in the prepared remarks, you guys are doing really well there. But just you talk about that competitive climate a little bit and maybe the margin structure around the really highest end part of premium mass, that would be helpful?

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Hubert, since we have you up, why don't we kick it to you.

Hubert Wang
Senior Vice President of Finance and Chief Financial Officer of MGM China at MGM Resorts International

Sure. Thank you, Bill. Yes. Shaun, I think for the most part, the marketing programs, promotion programs in the market remain pretty rational. We haven't seen irrational behavior among all the operators. And in terms of our own reinvestment, it stays pretty stable quarter after quarter even at the premium mass level. So that's what I see in general. There are a lot of concerts and events that draw a lot of people into the town. And I think that from that perspective, it's incremental to the GGR not only to the market but also to us as well. So I leave it at that.

Shaun Kelley
Analyst at Bank of America

Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question is from David Katz with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

David Katz
Analyst at Jefferies Financial Group

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to just talk about updated thoughts on leverage on a lease adjusted basis and how you think about that in the context of returning capital. We just have many discussions with management teams about where they'd like to be, whether it's three to four, four plus in most cases, lower -- some cases, lower than that. And I would just love your perspective?

Jonathan Halkyard
Chief Financial Officer at MGM Resorts International

Sure. It's Jonathan. And I appreciate the question. It's something we think about a great deal right now on a lease-adjusted basis, suggesting the lease payments by a multiple of eight times. Our leverage is about 3.5 times. It's a full turn below what we've talked about as our leverage cap. So a full turn on EBITDAR for us is over $4 billion. We have zero net debt right now. We've been aggressive repurchases of shares. I will say that at these levels of trading in our shares and the value that we think is in there. We would certainly consider taking on some additional financial leverage in order to enable further share repurchases.

Now we have to be mindful, of course, of some of the investments that we have coming up in '24, including in Japan, potentially in New York, depending upon timing. But we feel very comfortable with the leverage levels that we are at and going to that higher level. And one more reason is just because of, we think, the increased diversification of our cash flows and the resiliency of the revenues that we've seen here.

David Katz
Analyst at Jefferies Financial Group

Understood. And if I can, just as my follow-up, we also have a number of discussions with management teams around how they're thinking about dividends among your peers, and how they should be sized and their importance and relevance. And I'd love your thoughts there, too.

Jonathan Halkyard
Chief Financial Officer at MGM Resorts International

Yes. We've made -- and our Board has made the determination that at least for the time being, and I think probably into 2024 that returning cash to our shareholders through share repurchases is going to be the predominant method of doing that. And that's the best way for us to do it right now as opposed to the dividends. So I don't expect to see our dividend policy changing in the next -- certainly in the next 12 months. But the Board will ultimately.

David Katz
Analyst at Jefferies Financial Group

Yeah. Sure. Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question is from Dan Politzer with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Dan Politzer
Analyst at Wells Fargo & Company

Hey, good afternoon, everyone and thanks for taking my questions. First, just following the cybersecurity incident in the quarter, any updated way to think about investments in your IT infrastructure or opex related to this as we think about next year? And then just as a follow-up along with that cost structure. I mean, other than the labor uptick, are there any other costs that we should be thinking about that you guys plan to offset for next year, whether it's property insurance or anything else that we should be aware of?

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Dan, let me kick it off. As it relates to the -- obviously, we've done a whole lot to lock down systems now. But we're going to look at architecture and how we're designed and how we go forward. And so we're probably looking at sometime into next year a $30 million or $40 million capitalization. In terms of IT hardware and Cap that goes into it. In terms of opex, while there are things to do, I don't know that they're overly meaningful. A lot of that will get captured by capex, but is that 20? 10 to 20 range in terms of operating. The capital we'll find in the general fund, we generally go around $800 million a year to keep this place fresh, and we've got a couple of big remodels next year.

So that's not expected to change that greatly. Obviously, the wage increase that is being talked about now with the culinary, Ultimately, I think you all know we're in strike in Detroit, which is a similar program and similar request I might add. In terms of the percentage, we'll be in play insurance will be in play. Those are probably the two biggest things in terms of a percentage. But even the insurance, cyber and otherwise, well, it has continued to go up and is a staggering thing for you to understand since '19 -- Las Vegas insurance has gone up twofold.

And since '19, it's gone up fourfold since in our regional casinos. So it's something we watch closely. But the overall number and the scale of what we're talking about is still pretty de minimis, and we think we can overcome it, particularly here in Las Vegas.

Dan Politzer
Analyst at Wells Fargo & Company

Got it. That's helpful. And then -- just turning bigger picture and longer term, I guess, as you think about Dubai, I mean, do you see a realistic path to getting game legalized there? And then along with that, if there's any way to obviously have the rendering in the back of the deck, but any way to think about timing, capex, ownership structure or path to full ownership, just high level would be helpful?

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Yes. I mean, look, we think so. Obviously, we've got boots on the ground. I think you all understand our former CEO is now Chair of the Gaming Commission there, which is very real. And so they've taken a swag at it. You all know what Wynn is doing. We like Dubai for all the obvious reasons. There's 20-odd million visitors, they've got 140,000 hotel rooms. That sounds familiar. The current structure we have is hospitality management only. To the extent we actually get into casino, it's obviously we're not a management company for a casino.

We will look to invest equity. Or we will lease the casino. We just don't know. It depends on what a partner and potentially our existing partner wants to do, but know that we literally have somebody on the ground today in discussion. And so it's very front and center with us. It's something we'd like to participate in. We think it could be very meaningful for the company and frankly, the industry, and so we're there at scale.

Dan Politzer
Analyst at Wells Fargo & Company

Understood. I appreciate all the commentary. Thanks.

Operator

The next question is from Robin Farley with UBS. Please go ahead.

Robin Farley
Analyst at UBS Group

Great, thank you. I had a question about, if I'm understanding the slides correctly. You talked about the decline in Vegas, and you said $80 million was due to the cyber issue. And I guess total EBITDA was down $91 million and maybe would have been more without some hold. I know it's -- you won't quantify, but if we -- so if we're thinking about that other $10 million, is that -- is there anything else you would call out because it looks like, I guess, same-store EBITDA would have been down a little bit even without the cyber issue. So just anything else you'd call out there?

Jonathan Halkyard
Chief Financial Officer at MGM Resorts International

Not in particular, only just differences year-over-year that occur. Sometimes it's in gaming results. Sometimes it's in other cost elements, but other than the things that we called out, nothing in particular that we would...

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

And I think obviously, 2022, particularly third quarter was an all-time quarter. And so just as an equal comparative, you've got to keep that in perspective.

Robin Farley
Analyst at UBS Group

Okay. Great. Helpful. And then just as a follow-up, looking at the level of repurchase. I know I think at times during the third quarter, you talked about sort of potentially looking at different international iGaming opportunities. And should we conclude given the amount of repurchase, if you continue with this rate, you will have kind of used up maybe, I think you can call it excess liquidity or something in your slides that, that will be down to just a couple of hundred million by the end of the year if you kind of maintain the same rate of repurchase that we saw here. Should we think about that as a sign that you're less interested in making an acquisition in iGaming internationally?

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Well, look, if you're referencing Entain, which I think you are, our position has not changed. If we think about iGaming and the platform, obviously, we've gotten aggressive in U.K. and we're excited by what that opportunity brings. Obviously, it's a highly developed market, but we've taken some share. We've got a meaningful brand, and it's good to see our LeoVegas team go up against, I think, some of the best and say all they can do. We look to take that to other places. We're looking at Brazil closely. We're looking at other European countries closely. We -- obviously, with the advent or the purchase of Push Gaming, we're in the content business now, both for ourselves, hopefully for BetMGM and for other customers that they had when we acquired them. And so we'll continue to look to expand internationally. Gary Fritz is leading that effort mostly through our LeoVegas enterprise, and we'll see where it all goes.

Robin Farley
Analyst at UBS Group

And I thought that you might -- last week and he said something about how they expect to invest more in the joint venture next year even though you guys have talked about being EBITDA positive. And you didn't necessarily call that out, but would we assume that you would invest equally. In other words, that you would maintain that 50%, if they're talking about investing more, you're thinking about doing the same thing for BetMGM. And then that's it?

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Okay. Thanks, Robin. And look, I'd love them to invest more than us, but that's not the way it's going to work. So yes, we'll invest on purpose side by side. We believe in that business, we recognize, particularly as it relates to sports that our product over the last 18 months wasn't where it needed to be. And you've seen us do a great deal of work around single account, single wallet and Entain bought Angstrom, which we think will be a very -- not will be is, and becoming a very good push for us with Parley product for odds, the quantum of odds that we set, the amount that we can put out there. And so we're excited by that acquisition and what that's brought to the business.

Ultimately, we will get attained in Nevada, we believe, in the first quarter. which will then make single wallet available and therefore, omnichannel throughout our network, principally here with our decisive advantage of Las Vegas as a single wallet account. We think that will be meaningful. And we will then see once product is understood, more clearly how much to invest. But when you talk about a quantum of dollars and you think about the overall scheme of what's been accomplished, it won't be large. It's not like where we've been. But if somebody said you need to invest another $50 million to make sure your long-term value is there. I'm shooting for end of '25 as a goal.

Where are we going to be? Has this thing really begun to do the kinds of things, I think we all think and expect and hoping to do. And so we'll continue to invest accordingly and appropriately and purposefully with these guys because we believe -- look, we're still number three. We're still number one, although I noted DraftKings this month. But year in and year out, we've been number one in iGaming. And so we've got a very big position we want to protect and we'll continue to do so.

Robin Farley
Analyst at UBS Group

Thank you very much.

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Thanks.

Operator

The next question is from Barry Jonas with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Mr. Jonas, perhaps your phone is on mute.

Barry Jonas
Analyst at Truist Securities

Hey, thanks. I appreciate the commentary on F1, but curious if you can provide any additional color or metrics on how Super Bowl is shaping up?

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Yes, I'll kick it off, with Corey. It's interesting, where we've seen a great deal of international single visitation on F1, Super Bowl, maybe not to your surprise is about Corporate America. And so it is showing up in multiples in terms of multiple groups taking -- Corey, if you take just a great deal of inventory.

Corey Sanders
Chief Operating Officer at MGM Resorts International

Yes. If you look at the large -- the groups that have booked for programs for F1, we're actually about double in Super Bowl. So we're seeing some really strong demand there. It's driving ADR. We're pretty optimistic about what Super Bowl will bring for us from a casino and leisure side.

Barry Jonas
Analyst at Truist Securities

Great. Great. And then just as a follow-up. As you look across your markets or other parts, maybe parts of the database, are you seeing any noticeable impact from the macro environment we're in?

Corey Sanders
Chief Operating Officer at MGM Resorts International

No, we're not really seeing any -- we continue to book at the elevated ADRs, the regional trips and rated days customer values seem to be where they've been in the past. Barry, I think the discussion will ultimately come down to the regionals, not necessarily top line but bottom line in margin. And just keeping those things going strong. obviously, we'll wait and see what happens in Detroit here, but we'll come out of that like we always do. And then it will be about regional margins, I think, in bottom line more than top line, at least as anything we can see to suggest that.

Barry Jonas
Analyst at Truist Securities

Great, all right. I appreciate it.

Corey Sanders
Chief Operating Officer at MGM Resorts International

Thanks.

Operator

The next question is from John DeCree with CBRE. Please go ahead.

John DeCree
Analyst at CBRE

Hi everyone, thank you for taking my questions. Maybe one more to shift back to Macau. If you were still with us. The trends in recovery in Macau are still tracking along nicely for the market as a whole. There's obviously a lot of discussion about macroeconomic issues in China. So there seems to be a decoupling. Curious to get your thoughts on that. And then more specifically, the next leg of the recovery as we march forward. Obviously, airlift back to Macau and Hong Kong is still a place of recovery. But curious your views on the differences in Macau and China consumer more broadly and then how you see the next leg of the recovery playing out?

William J. Hornbuckle
Chief Executive Officer and President at MGM Resorts International

Go ahead, Hubert.

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    Director of Investor Relations
  • William J. Hornbuckle
    Chief Executive Officer and President
  • Jonathan Halkyard
    Chief Financial Officer
  • Corey Sanders
    Chief Operating Officer
  • Hubert Wang
    Senior Vice President of Finance and Chief Financial Officer of MGM China
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